Alphas Roster Stab 3.0 (after PS game 2)

[DCbillsfan]

3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

So what two players are you cutting then to make room based on the rest of the 53?  Its a lot easier to say they keep them than it is to actually go cut 2 more players to make room for them.  I dont disagree they have legit shot at roster, but I am having trouble cutting somewhere else to make the room.

IIRC, the Bills last year initially cut Andre Roberts and Dean Marlowe to get down to 53.  In about 24 hours time, they put 2 players on IR, I can't remember who, and brought back Roberts and Marlowe.  I could see the Bills trying to do similar moves this year.

 

Maybe cut Breida and a LB (Matakevich or A. Smith).  Put Sweeney and H. Phillips on IR.  Bring Breida and LB back.

Edited August 23, 2021 by DCbillsfan

[Hapless Bills Fan]

8 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

Yea I mean I don’t disagree with most of this. I could honestly see 2 TEs making it in Knox and Hollister and letting Sweeney go to keep Johnson as another DE or to keep Stevenson as a 7th WR or maybe to keep an extra DB like Lewis or Wildgoose

 

Sweeney in a walking boot and not seen at practice today.  Unclear what the issue is, but could be very disappointing for Sweeney

[GunnerBill]

11 hours ago, Victory Formation said:

Both Boogie and Rousseau can play not only DE but 3T as well, as can Obada, so we may not need as much depth at DT as we think.

 

They can play 3T on obvious passing downs. They can't line up there on an every down basis. I think Boogie potentially could be more of a genuine inside / outside piece than the other two in time but at the moment he is struggling a tad in picking up the end position it is not fair to ask him to pick up 3T as well. For a team that platoons its DL as much as the Bills I think there is almost no chance that they go with only 3 specialist defensive tackles.

 

EDIT: @Alphadawg7 I know you cover Taiwan Jones in your opening post but as a prediction now surely you think it is very likely that having been sat with the guys all but guaranteed spots in both games he makes the 53. I think it is overwhelmingly more likely than not now. The way they treated Levi is what convinces me. He was in a competition for CB2 and played the first pre-season game. He was clearly superior to Jackson in that game confirming what they had seen in camp and so week 2 he was promoted to the list of players sitting. It seems pretty clear to me that list is guys they are keeping and do not want to risk. The team for these pre-season games has been players battling for roster spots or guys who have no more than 2 years in the league and didn't have a pre-season last year (so basically their entire 2019 draft class Ed - Cody - Devin - Dawson - Jaquan - Bam and Sweeney are playing). I know putting Taiwan Jones in means cutting someone you want on the team... and it probably means that for the Bills as well, but the way they have run these two games makes me believe even more firmly than before that they want Taiwan Jones on the team whatever happens. 

 

Personally I expect them to treat the third pre-season game like teams used to treat the 4th and we will see even less of starters. I imagine Ed Oliver, Cody Ford, Devin Singletary, Dawson Knox, AJ Epenesa, Greg Rousseau, Justin Zimmer, Dane Jackson, Tyler Matakevich etc will all sit. It will be rookies (except Greg) 2nd year players, and true bottom of the roster practice squad level guys that will play. 

Edited August 23, 2021 by GunnerBill

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

10 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

Well, I don't think they keep seven WRs. I also don't think that Stevenson has solidified his position on the roster by his TD return (for reasons that I outlined on page 4 of Gunner's Good Night/Bad Night thread). But, even if he has, that might be one of the tough cuts to be made. I think it comes down to Kumerow vs. Stevenson there. I also think Doyle goes to the PS, where I think he will be perfectly safe. I know they generally roll with nine O-linesmen. But they also generally roll with six WRs. If they keep seven WRs, I don't think it will be at the expense of special teams. Breida is also not a lock, IMO. And, I say that not simply on the strength of his preseason performance, but from TC reports, as well.

 

On Defense, I have argued that they keep seven DEs, and the odd man out could be Addison. I do agree with Gunner's assessment that the players who have sat are basically locks, but I'm not sure that necessarily applies to Addison. Really, starters like Jerry, and Tre don't need to be in the preseason games because you don't want to put them at risk, but also there is nothing there to evaluate. Similarly, there is no reason to play Addison, even if he is on the bubble. They know exactly what they have in him.

 

Also on defense, if they plan to continue to play a nickel defense (and I haven't seen, or heard anything to suggest otherwise) I'm not sure they need to carry six LBs. Matekevich is very likely to make the roster for the same reason Johnson is-- he's a core ST standout, and also decent depth at his position. (I wish the same could be said for Jones...)

 

One last thought: This season the Bills have moved on from Andre Roberts. PFR had him ranked as the #1 return specialist in 2020. We benefitted greatly, not just from the good field position that afforded us, but also from high-level ST play in general. With the loss of Roberts, and a worrisome competition between Lil Dirty, and Stevenson to replace him, how much more should McD, and Beane be willing to dismantle what was a top-shelf unit last season?

 

One thing to keep in mind per the rules,is they have to keep 8 active on the game day roster or dress one less player so if only 8 on the 53 that means all must dress even if someone is a little nicked up.   Could then require more roster moves then to bring someone up and expose someone else.  Having that 9th lineman on the 53 gives them some flexibility there.  The only saving grace is Bates can play just about anywhere on the line if needed.

 

Think that rule change a couple years back makes most teams carry nine to be safe.

Edited August 23, 2021 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

I think Stevenson gets cut and makes our PS. I don't think he's got enough tape out there for a team to sign him to their 53 today, so I think he safely makes it to our PS.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

16 hours ago, BTB said:

I’d be shocked if they rolled with two rookie middle round draft picks as backup OT’s on a team that has championship aspirations.  I know you can’t have great depth at every position, but I think they would be playing with fire with Doyle and Brown being one injury away from going in. 

 

It is an initial group - lots of cuts to be made still.  Bates has some tackle experience, as does Ford.  So while Brown is probably primary swing tackle - if Williams went down in game you might see boettger in at G and ford moved to Tackle.  Lots of flexibility among the group.

[Pete]

good job with your projections!  I think you are almost spot on.  IMO Bills keep 3 QBs(Davis Webb?), trade Trubinski in offseason, and have 3rd QB become backup in 2022

If we keep 3 QBs, that next cut is super tough!

Isiah Hodgins will fight hard for a spot too

[GunnerBill]

34 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said:

I think Stevenson gets cut and makes our PS. I don't think he's got enough tape out there for a team to sign him to their 53 today, so I think he safely makes it to our PS.

 

My only response to this is in pretty much every pre-season I can remember these sorts of guys get picked up off waivers. The last one was Diontae Spencer a pure speed guy who in the 2019 pre-season showed something on a couple of nice returns for the Steelers. They waived him expecting him to make it through to the practice squad and the Broncos claimed him off waivers. And he had played in Canada for a few years first he wasn't even a young guy. Indeed the reason the Bills claimed McKenzie off waivers from the Broncos the year before was similar. Return specialists with speed tend to get claimed on waivers. Not saying they all do, maybe Stevenson sneaks through... but it happens plenty and I bet Brandon Beane and company have done all the numbers and will fully evaluate that risk. 

[Alphadawg7]

9 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

They can play 3T on obvious passing downs. They can't line up there on an every down basis. I think Boogie potentially could be more of a genuine inside / outside piece than the other two in time but at the moment he is struggling a tad in picking up the end position it is not fair to ask him to pick up 3T as well. For a team that platoons its DL as much as the Bills I think there is almost no chance that they go with only 3 specialist defensive tackles.

 

EDIT: @Alphadawg7 I know you cover Taiwan Jones in your opening post but as a prediction now surely you think it is very likely that having been sat with the guys all but guaranteed spots in both games he makes the 53. I think it is overwhelmingly more likely than not now. The way they treated Levi is what convinces me. He was in a competition for CB2 and played the first pre-season game. He was clearly superior to Jackson in that game confirming what they had seen in camp and so week 2 he was promoted to the list of players sitting. It seems pretty clear to me that list is guys they are keeping and do not want to risk. The team for these pre-season games has been players battling for roster spots or guys who have no more than 2 years in the league and didn't have a pre-season last year (so basically their entire 2019 draft class Ed - Cody - Devin - Dawson - Jaquan - Bam and Sweeney are playing). I know putting Taiwan Jones in means cutting someone you want on the team... and it probably means that for the Bills as well, but the way they have run these two games makes me believe even more firmly than before that they want Taiwan Jones on the team whatever happens. 

 

Personally I expect them to treat the third pre-season game like teams used to treat the 4th and we will see even less of starters. I imagine Ed Oliver, Cody Ford, Devin Singletary, Dawson Knox, AJ Epenesa, Greg Rousseau, Justin Zimmer, Dane Jackson, Tyler Matakevich etc will all sit. It will be rookies (except Greg) 2nd year players, and true bottom of the roster practice squad level guys that will play. 

 

Here is the thing...yes, totally get your point, and that certainly can be viewed as a strong vote of confidence in him making the roster.  But playing devils advocate for a second, is Taiwan Jones really so good he needs to be protected by sitting him?  I mean we played substantially more important players (that we did not have to play by any means who are locked into their starting jobs) both games.  Guys they treat with bubble wrap are usually the ones they can't afford an injury to.  And I am just not convinced Taiwan fits that criteria.  It could also be he is so one dimensional that they don't need to see anything from him and they are using this time to look at the guys who would have to fill his spot if they didn't keep him and see how they fare before making a decision on Taiwan.

 

I have nothing against Taiwan at all, and if he makes the team then great, means he is so good on ST that our unit is stronger.  And honestly, in most cases I would have projected him to make the team.  BUT...I am still just having a hard time finding someone to cut to make room for him.  Every time I find a way to free up a spot, its to make room for someone that seems to fill a bigger role/need.  

 

For example, in this version I dropped Hart again, but I also needed to make room for Stevenson who I think is making a late push here for a roster spot.  That pushed us up to 7 WR's (which truthfully I still think is unlikely and we keep 6, meaning its probably a battle between Kumerow and Stevenson if so).  Well if we keep 6, then I have an open spot again I can see for Taiwan, which very well might happen.   

 

That being said, there are some developments that definitely increase the odds he makes the team (assuming he wasn't already locked in, which he might be).  One that stands out for me is Sweeney in a walking boot.  If Sweeney doesn't make the 53 either due to being cut or put on IR, well there is Taiwan Jones spot right there.  If say Kumerow or Brieda doesn't make the team, there is also a spot for Taiwan.  

 

So I totally agree that Taiwan still has a good shot to make the team, and maybe it already is a foregone conclusion.  

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Here is the thing...yes, totally get your point, and that certainly can be viewed as a strong vote of confidence in him making the roster.  But playing devils advocate for a second, is Taiwan Jones really so good he needs to be protected by sitting him?  I mean we played substantially more important players (that we did not have to play by any means who are locked into their starting jobs) both games.  Guys they treat with bubble wrap are usually the ones they can't afford an injury to.  And I am just not convinced Taiwan fits that criteria.  It could also be he is so one dimensional that they don't need to see anything from him and they are using this time to look at the guys who would have to fill his spot if they didn't keep him and see how they fare before making a decision on Taiwan.

 

I have nothing against Taiwan at all, and if he makes the team then great, means he is so good on ST that our unit is stronger.  And honestly, in most cases I would have projected him to make the team.  BUT...I am still just having a hard time finding someone to cut to make room for him.  Every time I find a way to free up a spot, its to make room for someone that seems to fill a bigger role/need.  

 

For example, in this version I dropped Hart again, but I also needed to make room for Stevenson who I think is making a late push here for a roster spot.  That pushed us up to 7 WR's (which truthfully I still think is unlikely and we keep 6, meaning its probably a battle between Kumerow and Stevenson if so).  Well if we keep 6, then I have an open spot again I can see for Taiwan, which very well might happen.   

 

That being said, there are some developments that definitely increase the odds he makes the team (assuming he wasn't already locked in, which he might be).  One that stands out for me is Sweeney in a walking boot.  If Sweeney doesn't make the 53 either due to being cut or put on IR, well there is Taiwan Jones spot right there.  If say Kumerow or Brieda doesn't make the team, there is also a spot for Taiwan.  

 

So I totally agree that Taiwan still has a good shot to make the team, and maybe it already is a foregone conclusion.  

 

I think the crux of all this is that to the Bills management the answer to the bolded is yes. That is why they are doing it. The only "more important" players who are playing are guys who have less than 3 years in the league. I think it is about as close as it can be to being a lock now that they have Taiwan on the 53 opening day. He is a candidate for the old cut on cut down day and sign back 3 days later once you have shuffled some guys off onto IR trick. But I'd be extremely surprised at this point if Jones isn't a Bill this season. 

[Fan in Chicago]

18 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Knox is the starter. I am not sure he should be but I don't even think it is a competition in their eyes. Both will get enough action but the regime is all in on Dawson. 

If thats true, I find it baffling. Drops are an absolute no-no and you can bet the opposing defenses will take their chances with their coverage on critical passing downs. 

[Alphadawg7]

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think the crux of all this is that to the Bills management the answer to the bolded is yes. That is why they are doing it. The only "more important" players who are playing are guys who have less than 3 years in the league. I think it is about as close as it can be to being a lock now that they have Taiwan on the 53 opening day. He is a candidate for the old cut on cut down day and sign back 3 days later once you have shuffled some guys off onto IR trick. But I'd be extremely surprised at this point if Jones isn't a Bill this season. 

 

100% agree that could very well be a path for him.  Its hard to predict the IR trick stuff, so until I see them do that, its hard to find another player to cut.  

 

I could see us doing that with like Sweeney, Doyle, etc...and that would open up a spot for Taiwan.  But until they do that, its hard to project.  

 

I also think Wildgoose could make this team the same way.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Thought this would be interesting to compare a 53 man roster prediction from @Matt Parrino here.

 

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2021/08/projecting-bills-53-man-roster-after-win-vs-bears-josh-allen-says-brandon-beane-faces-tough-decisions.html

 

Quarterback (2): Josh Allen, Mitch Trubisky     Cut: Jake Fromm, Davis Webb

Running back (4): Devin Singletary, Zack Moss, Matt Breida, Reggie Gilliam  Cut: Taiwan Jones, Antonio Williams, Christian Wade

   Note: Parrino thinks Jones will be cut and then brought back when someone at another position is IR'd

Wide receiver (7): Stefon Diggs, Emmanuel Sanders, Cole Beasley, Gabriel Davis, Isaiah McKenzie, Jake Kumerow, Marquez Stevenson

   Cut: Isaiah Hodgins, Lance Lenoir, Duke Williams, Tanner Gentry, Brandon Powell

Tight end (3): Dawson Knox, Jacob Hollister, Tommy Sweeney   Cut: Bug Howard, Nate Becker, Quintin Morris

   Note: Parrino thinks Sweeney may be kept on the 53, thenplaced on IR to make room for Jones.

Offensive line (9): Dion Dawkins, Jon Feliciano, Mitch Morse, Cody Ford, Daryl Williams, Spencer Brown, Ryan Bates, Ike Boettger, Tommy Doyle

   Cut: Jamil Douglas, Forrest Lamp, Jordan Devey, Bobby Hart, Tyler Gauthier, Jack Anderson

Defensive end (7): Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison, A.J. Epenesa, Greg Rousseau, Carlos Basham, Efe Obada, Darryl Johnson Jr.

    Cut: Mike Love

Defensive tackle (4): Star Lotulelei, Ed Oliver, Harrison Phillips, Vernon Butler  Cut: Justin Zimmer, Brandin Bryant, Treyvon Hester

Linebacker (5): Tremaine Edmunds, Matt Milano, A.J. Klein, Andre Smith, Tyler Matakevich  Cut: Joe Giles-Harris, Tyrell Adams, Tyrel Dodson, Marquel Lee

Cornerback (5): Tre’Davious White, Levi Wallace, Taron Johnson, Dane Jackson, Siran Neal  Cut: Cam Lewis, Rachad Wildgoose, Elijah Griffin, Nick McCloud

Safety (4): Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, Jaquan Johnson, Damar Hamlin   Cut: Josh Thomas, Tariq Thompson

Specialists (3): Tyler Bass, Matt Haack, Reid Ferguson

 

It's a reasonable stab.

Places I disagree:

OL: I think we either cut Doyle and keep Hart initially, or keep Doyle to IR him and sign a backup OT from some other teams's cut list.

DT: I don't see how McDermott can say all the stuff he's said about Zimmer, then cut the man.  I think it's possible we do a "cut-resign" with Butler (who is a 6 year vested vet and not subject to waivers) then IR Phillips if we think his knee isn't 100%.

CB: I think we need to keep 6, somehow.  Probably Cam Lewis.  If the question is "who steps up if both Wallace and White are down at the same time?" I don't think Neal is the answer.  But I don't have a great idea who else we cut to make room.

[MasterStrategist]

6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Thought this would be interesting to compare a 53 man roster prediction from @Matt Parrino here.

 

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2021/08/projecting-bills-53-man-roster-after-win-vs-bears-josh-allen-says-brandon-beane-faces-tough-decisions.html

 

Quarterback (2): Josh Allen, Mitch Trubisky     Cut: Jake Fromm, Davis Webb

Running back (4): Devin Singletary, Zack Moss, Matt Breida, Reggie Gilliam  Cut: Taiwan Jones, Antonio Williams, Christian Wade

   Note: Parrino thinks Jones will be cut and then brought back when someone at another position is IR'd

Wide receiver (7): Stefon Diggs, Emmanuel Sanders, Cole Beasley, Gabriel Davis, Isaiah McKenzie, Jake Kumerow, Marquez Stevenson

   Cut: Isaiah Hodgins, Lance Lenoir, Duke Williams, Tanner Gentry, Brandon Powell

Tight end (3): Dawson Knox, Jacob Hollister, Tommy Sweeney   Cut: Bug Howard, Nate Becker, Quintin Morris

   Note: Parrino thinks Sweeney may be kept on the 53, thenplaced on IR to make room for Jones.

Offensive line (9): Dion Dawkins, Jon Feliciano, Mitch Morse, Cody Ford, Daryl Williams, Spencer Brown, Ryan Bates, Ike Boettger, Tommy Doyle

   Cut: Jamil Douglas, Forrest Lamp, Jordan Devey, Bobby Hart, Tyler Gauthier, Jack Anderson

Defensive end (7): Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison, A.J. Epenesa, Greg Rousseau, Carlos Basham, Efe Obada, Darryl Johnson Jr.

    Cut: Mike Love

Defensive tackle (4): Star Lotulelei, Ed Oliver, Harrison Phillips, Vernon Butler  Cut: Justin Zimmer, Brandin Bryant, Treyvon Hester

Linebacker (5): Tremaine Edmunds, Matt Milano, A.J. Klein, Andre Smith, Tyler Matakevich  Cut: Joe Giles-Harris, Tyrell Adams, Tyrel Dodson, Marquel Lee

Cornerback (5): Tre’Davious White, Levi Wallace, Taron Johnson, Dane Jackson, Siran Neal  Cut: Cam Lewis, Rachad Wildgoose, Elijah Griffin, Nick McCloud

Safety (4): Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, Jaquan Johnson, Damar Hamlin   Cut: Josh Thomas, Tariq Thompson

Specialists (3): Tyler Bass, Matt Haack, Reid Ferguson

 

It's a reasonable stab.

Places I disagree:

OL: I think we either cut Doyle and keep Hart initially, or keep Doyle to IR him and sign a backup OT from some other teams's cut list.

DT: I don't see how McDermott can say all the stuff he's said about Zimmer, then cut the man.  I think it's possible we do a "cut-resign" with Butler (who is a 6 year vested vet and not subject to waivers) then IR Phillips if we think his knee isn't 100%.

CB: I think we need to keep 6, somehow.  Probably Cam Lewis.  If the question is "who steps up if both Wallace and White are down at the same time?" I don't think Neal is the answer.  But I don't have a great idea who else we cut to make room.

Interesting take as well, thanks for posting this.

 

Compares very well to Alphas. 

 

Matt's 5-man LB projection could very well happen,  as I see it easier to slide "either" Dodson or Adams onto the PS than a Speedy or Bam.

 

Agree with Sweeney to IR, after 53 man is set.  Also think it's possible they try to keep Wildgoose or Lewis on the initial 53.

 

Zimmer is definitely getting picked up if we cut him, I don't see that happening.

 

I could see several cut/sign back options: Butler, Addison, depending on how it impacts the cap

 

 

[ColoradoBills]

28 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Quarterback (2): Josh Allen, Mitch Trubisky     Cut: Jake Fromm, Davis Webb

Running back (4): Devin Singletary, Zack Moss, Matt Breida, Reggie Gilliam  Cut: Taiwan Jones, Antonio Williams, Christian Wade

   Note: Parrino thinks Jones will be cut and then brought back when someone at another position is IR'd

Wide receiver (7): Stefon Diggs, Emmanuel Sanders, Cole Beasley, Gabriel Davis, Isaiah McKenzie, Jake Kumerow, Marquez Stevenson

   Cut: Isaiah Hodgins, Lance Lenoir, Duke Williams, Tanner Gentry, Brandon Powell

Tight end (3): Dawson Knox, Jacob Hollister, Tommy Sweeney   Cut: Bug Howard, Nate Becker, Quintin Morris

   Note: Parrino thinks Sweeney may be kept on the 53, thenplaced on IR to make room for Jones.

Offensive line (9): Dion Dawkins, Jon Feliciano, Mitch Morse, Cody Ford, Daryl Williams, Spencer Brown, Ryan Bates, Ike Boettger, Tommy Doyle

   Cut: Jamil Douglas, Forrest Lamp, Jordan Devey, Bobby Hart, Tyler Gauthier, Jack Anderson

Defensive end (7): Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison, A.J. Epenesa, Greg Rousseau, Carlos Basham, Efe Obada, Darryl Johnson Jr.

    Cut: Mike Love

Defensive tackle (4): Star Lotulelei, Ed Oliver, Harrison Phillips, Vernon Butler  Cut: Justin Zimmer, Brandin Bryant, Treyvon Hester

Linebacker (5): Tremaine Edmunds, Matt Milano, A.J. Klein, Andre Smith, Tyler Matakevich  Cut: Joe Giles-Harris, Tyrell Adams, Tyrel Dodson, Marquel Lee

Cornerback (5): Tre’Davious White, Levi Wallace, Taron Johnson, Dane Jackson, Siran Neal  Cut: Cam Lewis, Rachad Wildgoose, Elijah Griffin, Nick McCloud

Safety (4): Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, Jaquan Johnson, Damar Hamlin   Cut: Josh Thomas, Tariq Thompson

Specialists (3): Tyler Bass, Matt Haack, Reid Ferguson

 

Pretty darn close from Parrino IMO.

 

I see Sweeney and Phillips to start the season on IR.

That adds Zimmer and Wildgoose.

Hollister and Breida do the "handshake" cuts and re-sign the next day.

 

Only for the Jones being a lock group.  If that happens then Breida is cut (hopefully no one picks him up and he signs on PS)

and Jones takes the cut and re-signs the next day.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

41 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

Pretty darn close from Parrino IMO.

 

I see Sweeney and Phillips to start the season on IR.

That adds Zimmer and Wildgoose.

Hollister and Breida do the "handshake" cuts and re-sign the next day.

 

Only for the Jones being a lock group.  If that happens then Breida is cut (hopefully no one picks him up and he signs on PS)

and Jones takes the cut and re-signs the next day.

 

Oh, interesting calls on Hollister and Breida.  I thought for sure both would have to clear waivers but I looked and I think you're correct.

 

I'm thinking the Bills are more likely to ask a player who has been on the roster last season and has built more track record of trust (both ways) to do the Roberts maneuver though.

[ColoradoBills]

6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Oh, interesting calls on Hollister and Breida.  I thought for sure both would have to clear waivers but I looked and I think you're correct.

 

I'm thinking the Bills are more likely to ask a player who has been on the roster last season and has built more track record of trust (both ways) to do the Roberts maneuver though.

 

I think the Josh Hollister connection would put any trust issues aside.

If Breida didn't want to do it there will be a lot of other RBs tripping over themselves to come to Buffalo after cutdown day.

The guys doing this always get a bump in pay and some more guaranteed money.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I think the Josh Hollister connection would put any trust issues aside.

If Breida didn't want to do it there will be a lot of other RBs tripping over themselves to come to Buffalo after cutdown day.

The guys doing this always get a bump in pay and some more guaranteed money.

 

Not sure...it's not just the player, but the relationship with the agent etc.

 

Breida is not entirely interchangable with any RB because of the speed thing - Same reason we don't want to let Stevenson go even though he's a developmental guy

 

[TPS]

6 hours ago, MasterStrategist said:

Interesting take as well, thanks for posting this.

 

Compares very well to Alphas. 

 

Matt's 5-man LB projection could very well happen,  as I see it easier to slide "either" Dodson or Adams onto the PS than a Speedy or Bam.

 

Agree with Sweeney to IR, after 53 man is set.  Also think it's possible they try to keep Wildgoose or Lewis on the initial 53.

 

Zimmer is definitely getting picked up if we cut him, I don't see that happening.

 

I could see several cut/sign back options: Butler, Addison, depending on how it impacts the cap

 

 

I'd say Lewis has the edge because he can play boundary and nickel. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

Edited August 24, 2021 by YoloinOhio

[Not at the table Karlos]

On 8/22/2021 at 6:52 PM, ColoradoBills said:

Beane and McDermott got to figure a way to use the IR and PS rules again this year.  Keep the young guys on the main roster and

use call ups for depth if needed that bad because of injuries.  This way you don't expose the young guys who would get picked up.

 

It a good chance Sweeney starts on IR.  In the meantime a TE will be on the PS to call up if needed.

Hell Nate Becker had a good snag in the Bears game and has been on the roster for 2 years.  He will probably be on PS again.

 

Gilliam was taking a lot of snaps alone in the backfield.  He does make Breida expendable.  Breida probably won't get picked up so he can

go to PS too.  If he gets picked up Williams is there.

 

That gives you 7 WRs and Taiwan Jones if he is needed that badly.  If Jones is not kept then a vet OT could be signed.

 

Have to figure out some moves like this for the D too.  

 

 

 

 

 

He was getting those snaps because we didn't have anymore RBs left. Williams and wade were hurt and the rest had their time. 

[GunnerBill]

17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

 

I reckon they could do it with Isaiah. They have left him on the street for a week or so at the start of FA the last two years before coming back together. I think the Bills and his agents totally trust each other to do that. They trust him to circle back once he has tested his market and he trusts the Bills to keep their offer live while he does so. However, with where the Bills are cap wise I'm not sure throwing $700k or $1m just for the sake of playing roster hopping is really a very wise move. Not sure they will want Adams back on the 53 in any event (PS, sure) and that leaves McKenzie, Hollister and Breida. 

[ColoradoBills]

2 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

He was getting those snaps because we didn't have anymore RBs left. Williams and wade were hurt and the rest had their time. 

 

I agree.  My point was he is a worthwhile RB when he needs to be in an emergency situation.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Going to drop this here. Please refrain from any commentary and opinions about vaccinated/unvaccinated, as I appreciate this thread and all the work @Alphadawg7 and many more put in…

 

Does the knowledge that you could lose 2/4 top WRs for 5 days at any time throughout the season, impact the roster decisions. Do you keep 7 WRs now, knowing that this is a possibility? 
 

Are there are more “insured” positions where all the DL or OL are guaranteed to NOT miss 5 days due to close contact, where you skimp out on depth to provide more supporting cast in another position room to account for close contacts?

 

I think it might.

[ChattanoogaBills]

I believe Nick McCloud will make the 53 man roster.

[jkeerie]

1 hour ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Going to drop this here. Please refrain from any commentary and opinions about vaccinated/unvaccinated, as I appreciate this thread and all the work @Alphadawg7 and many more put in…

 

Does the knowledge that you could lose 2/4 top WRs for 5 days at any time throughout the season, impact the roster decisions. Do you keep 7 WRs now, knowing that this is a possibility? 
 

Are there are more “insured” positions where all the DL or OL are guaranteed to NOT miss 5 days due to close contact, where you skimp out on depth to provide more supporting cast in another position room to account for close contacts?

 

I think it might.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

[Rocky Landing]

1 hour ago, ChattanoogaBills said:

I believe Nick McCloud will make the 53 man roster.

"Believe" is a strong word there, for a bold prediction. I suspect Cam Lewis is going to make the 53, and McCloud might go to the PS.

[Alphadawg7]

2 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Going to drop this here. Please refrain from any commentary and opinions about vaccinated/unvaccinated, as I appreciate this thread and all the work @Alphadawg7 and many more put in…

 

Does the knowledge that you could lose 2/4 top WRs for 5 days at any time throughout the season, impact the roster decisions. Do you keep 7 WRs now, knowing that this is a possibility? 
 

Are there are more “insured” positions where all the DL or OL are guaranteed to NOT miss 5 days due to close contact, where you skimp out on depth to provide more supporting cast in another position room to account for close contacts?

 

I think it might.

 

Very interesting point, and yeah I think its possible it could entice them further to keep 7 at WR, especially given how pass heavy our offense is.