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2 hours ago, boco357 said:

 

Wow. I just don't see the point. Bridgewater is a below average starter and will never be anything more. Lock isn't great, but he is young and has a lot of physical tools.

 

If you don't believe in Lock you should have drafted a QB.

 

I bet Broncos fans are not happy.

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30 minutes ago, MJS said:

Wow. I just don't see the point. Bridgewater is a below average starter and will never be anything more. Lock isn't great, but he is young and has a lot of physical tools.

 

If you don't believe in Lock you should have drafted a QB.

 

I bet Broncos fans are not happy.

Yeah, it doesn't really make sense long term. They're definitely drafting someone next year. Maybe it works out, maybe it doesn't. 

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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

An actual spleen injury

 

 

 

That actually reminds me of when Keenan Allen awhile back got a season ending injury for a lacerated kidney. These weird types of injuries just happen sometimes.

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/14044550/keenan-allen-san-diego-chargers-headed-ir-lacerated-kidney

34 minutes ago, MJS said:

Wow. I just don't see the point. Bridgewater is a below average starter and will never be anything more. Lock isn't great, but he is young and has a lot of physical tools.

 

If you don't believe in Lock you should have drafted a QB.

 

I bet Broncos fans are not happy.

 

I wouldn't be happy if I were a Broncos fan. They really have been very mediocre since they won the Super Bowl in Peyton's last season. They never make a good decision on a QB. They were in position to draft Josh Allen at pick 5 when they didn't have much at QB and instead went with a defensive player. Now they are stuck in a division with Mahomes and possibly another talented QB in Herbert and they bench a young QB with some promise for a mediocre starter in Bridgewater. The Broncos aren't just bad they are directionless bad.

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8 minutes ago, Doc said:

Bridgewater starting means Lock is done as their starting QB and likely as a starting QB in theNFL.  The question now is whether Bridgewater is their QB of the future and that remains to be seen.

Lock will be our backup next year after Denver signs Trubisky. lol

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10 minutes ago, Doc said:

Bridgewater starting means Lock is done as their starting QB and likely as a starting QB in theNFL.  The question now is whether Bridgewater is their QB of the future and that remains to be seen.

 

I wouldn't write off Lock just yet as I think that within six weeks Bridgewater is likely to lose that starting job and Lock in my opinion could see 8ish starts as if the Broncos are sub .500 with Bridgewater (which is likely) they will probably throw Lock in just to see what they have with him one last time. If Lock performs well in those starts he could get another shot to compete for a job.

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1 hour ago, Logic said:


Broncos keep punting on drafting a young QB.

Just since 2018, they've passed on Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Justin Fields, and Mac Jones. Imagine pairing that Broncos defense under Vic Fangio with a guy like Lamar Jackson? They'd be perennial playoff contenders. Instead they're in quarterback purgatory with Bridgewater, who looks more like a great backup, and Lock, who looks like discount Jay Cutler.

 

1 hour ago, MJS said:

Wow. I just don't see the point. Bridgewater is a below average starter and will never be anything more. Lock isn't great, but he is young and has a lot of physical tools.

 

If you don't believe in Lock you should have drafted a QB.

 

I bet Broncos fans are not happy.


 

I think it really depends on whether or not the GM actually thought he had a shot at Aaron Rodgers for this year or next year. 
 

You might take a chance and skip a QB if you honestly believe that Rodgers is you future because then a QB drafted this year becomes a waste.

 

Now passing on Allen or even Jackson was stupid and the fans should be ticked, but my guess is they would have gone Rosen and screwed even that up.

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22 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

I wouldn't write off Lock just yet as I think that within six weeks Bridgewater is likely to lose that starting job and Lock in my opinion could see 8ish starts as if the Broncos are sub .500 with Bridgewater (which is likely) they will probably throw Lock in just to see what they have with him one last time. If Lock performs well in those starts he could get another shot to compete for a job.

 

Lock might get the job back by default, but this season will be the end of it for him.

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2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Lock might get the job back by default, but this season will be the end of it for him.


You are most likely correct that Lock will likely be a career backup, however I do think he gets some starts this year and if he does well in then he could get another starting opportunity in Denver or elsewhere.

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Interesting name on this list of cut candidates from NFL.com.. Obviously Vernon Butler is on here .. but so is Shaq Lawson. He did very well at the end of his time with buffalo, but he was already traded and now a cut candidate? I saw he is running second team on the TEXANS .. yikes. Not what you want to see out of a 3 yr - $30 million dollar man.

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/2021-nfl-roster-bubble-notable-players-who-could-be-traded-or-cut

 

If he is cut .. I seriously doubt there will be a reunion unless we have a rash of injuries as the young fellas appear to be outstanding.

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On 8/25/2021 at 10:11 PM, mannc said:

So they’re just going to hide Fields on the bench every time the Bears go up against a good defensive player? What’s Aaron Donald going to do to him?  Kill him?  Under the new rules, AD is barely allowed to breathe on him.  Anyway, Fields was the starting QB for Ohio State, ffs.  I think he can handle it.

 

 

The long term future of that guy, which for the next four to six years will probably correspond well with the long term success of the whole franchise, is way way more important than winning (very likely losing, actually) one game in a season in which the team will not compete for a championship. 

 

Sit him, work on his mechanics and his understanding of the game, and do it for the whole year if you think that's what will work best for him long-term. Follow the Mahomes plan.

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5 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

Sit him, work on his mechanics and his understanding of the game, and do it for the whole year if you think that's what will work best for him long-term. Follow the Mahomes plan

They will sit him (according to the HC). But I'd bet he won't sit long at all. Seems like there's a lot of pressure there with pretty much everyone calling for Fields to start. I think HC gives in sooner than later and puts him on the field. Especially if Dalton struggles early and often.

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1 minute ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

They will sit him (according to the HC). But I'd bet he won't sit long at all. Seems like there's a lot of pressure there with pretty much everyone calling for Fields to start. I think HC gives in sooner than later and puts him on the field. Especially if Dalton struggles early and often.

 

 

You may well be right. History points that way.

 

I hope for his sake that he sits for most of the year, if not all of it.

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1 minute ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

You may well be right. History points that way.

 

I hope for his sake that he sits for most of the year, if not all of it.

Yeah would be the best thing for sure. Especially if that OL continues to play like they did against mostly Bills back ups.

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49 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

Just seen on NFLN that GB WR Devin Funchess was put on IR and out for the season.

I remember when Aaron was making them get Cobb.  If they didn't they would be in a bigger problem then they are now at WR.

 

If Funchess (even if he had stayed healthy) was their idea of getting Rodgers help...

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1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

The long term future of that guy, which for the next four to six years will probably correspond well with the long term success of the whole franchise, is way way more important than winning (very likely losing, actually) one game in a season in which the team will not compete for a championship. 

 

Sit him, work on his mechanics and his understanding of the game, and do it for the whole year if you think that's what will work best for him long-term. Follow the Mahomes plan.

Maybe.  But Nagy is on the hot seat and probably won't survive a 7-9 Andy Dalton season.  The only way he survives is if Fields plays and shows promise and the team wins a reasonable number of games... 

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2 minutes ago, mannc said:

Maybe.  But Nagy is on the hot seat and probably won't survive a 7-9 Andy Dalton season.  The only way he survives is if Fields plays and shows promise and the team wins a reasonable number of games... 

I don't know if he's on the "hot seat" or not, but yeah you can bet when (not if) Dalton struggles, he will for sure Call Fields in. If true about hot seat, then would also do it just to hopefully save his job.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

I don't know if he's on the "hot seat" or not, but yeah you can bet when (not if) Dalton struggles, he will for sure Call Fields in. If true about hot seat, then would also do it just to hopefully save his job.

 

 

Nagy's definitely on the hot seat; no maybe about it.  Ownership might give him a reprieve if he rolls with a rookie QB and the team struggles a bit; it's a built-in excuse for a head coach.  No such leniency if Dalton plays most of the year and they suck...  

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18 hours ago, mannc said:

Maybe.  But Nagy is on the hot seat and probably won't survive a 7-9 Andy Dalton season.  The only way he survives is if Fields plays and shows promise and the team wins a reasonable number of games... 

 

 

While that's certainly one outcome, it's far from the only one. And if they were smart, the folks above Nagy would rein him in on that logic and tell him to value the long-term over the short-term here. From how it looks, they may already have started that.

 

You're very right that there may well be pressure on Nagy. There's nearly always pressure on people to make stupid decisions based on short-term logic. Many decisions are made based on that kind of awful process. But the fact that there was a lot of pressure doesn't make the bad decisions any better.

 

20 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Yeah would be the best thing for sure. Especially if that OL continues to play like they did against mostly Bills back ups.

 

 

Yup. Good point about their OL.

 

I still think David Carr could have been a really good QB if he hadn't been systematically mishandled and forced into a case of PTSD.

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48 minutes ago, Rico said:

https://www.nfl.com/news/2021-nfl-roster-bubble-notable-players-who-could-be-traded-or-cut?campaign=Twitter_atn
 

Isabella on the bubble in Arizona.

 

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A quote from that article about possible player cuts:

 

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The former Panthers first-round pick could get squeezed out in a deep Bills defensive line. 

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