Irv Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) So, all you doorknobs who want socialism in the USA - how many more countries do we need to see it fail to be convinced. Yet we have idiots like Alzheimer Biden, Sanders, and the Squad crying out for it. I guess starvation appeals to these brainless dolts. What a mess. Edited July 16, 2021 by Irv 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Irv said: So, all you doorknobs who want socialism in the USA - how many more countries do we need to see it fail to be convinced. Yet we have idots like Alzheimer Biden, Sanders, and the Squad crying out for it. I guess starvation appeals to these brainless dolts. I would trade 1000 tibs for one Cuban protester. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Joe Biden finally woke up from his nap and has issued a statement on the protests that are happening in Cuba. This is about their fourth attempt at this, but his statement still has a couple of glaring issues. “We stand with the Cuban people and their clarion call for freedom and relief from the tragic grip of the pandemic and from the decades of repression and economic suffering to which they have been subjected by Cuba’s authoritarian regime,” Biden said in a statement. “The Cuban people are bravely asserting fundamental and universal rights. Those rights, including the right of peaceful protest and the right to freely determine their own future, must be respected,” Biden said. “The United States calls on the Cuban regime to hear their people and serve their needs at this vital moment rather than enriching themselves.” Now I like the term “clarion call for freedom” terminology and saying they stand with the Cuban people. But it isn’t a “clarion call for freedom from the tragic grip of the pandemic” that they’re talking about in the streets. It’s the clarion call for freedom from the Communist dictatorship. They really want to make everything about the pandemic, don’t they? The people aren’t chanting “Give us more medicine!” They’re chanting, “Libertad! (Freedom!).” They’re chanting, “Enough.” Where is Biden calling out Communism anywhere in that statement? Or is that too hard for anyone on the left to do? Where is there any admonition not to attack the people and the condemning of what the government has already done? This isn’t about the pandemic at its base. It’s about the government truly being of the people, not the Communists. https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/07/12/joe-biden-finally-weighs-in-on-protests-in-cuba-n409722 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Irv said: So, all you doorknobs who want socialism in the USA - how many more countries do we need to see it fail to be convinced. Yet we have idots like Alzheimer Biden, Sanders, and the Squad crying out for it. I guess starvation appeals to these brainless dolts. Cuba does not have democracy. Socialism imposed by dictators is different than the people elected a government and making decisions. Can you understand that? 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said: I would trade 1000 tibs for one Cuban protester. A stunning example of maturity right here. Free Cuba! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Cuba does not have democracy. Socialism imposed by dictators is different than the people elected a government and making decisions. Can you understand that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: You don't understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 The Huffington Post is blaming Trump!! "Cuba is going through its worst economic crisis in decades, along with a resurgence of coronavirus cases, as it suffers the consequences of U.S. sanctions imposed by the Trump administration." https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cuba-protest-havana_n_60eb8f0ce4b00edbf38467d7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 I don't understand they all have health care and 100% literacy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frat-Train Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 17 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Cuba does not have democracy. Socialism imposed by dictators is different than the people elected a government and making decisions. Can you understand that? Castro was a part of the Cuban revolution and was a key to the overthrow of Batista…. He then became Prime Minister and took the country to socialism (schooling and healthcare) before aligning with the Soviets under communism. Afterwards, he focused on Chile, Nicaragua and Granada where the socialist ideas were spread under his influence (save for Soviet Union). It’s literally the socialist playbook. Come to power, divide the country, increase power through division, destroy dissent and most importantly…. Do everything not to lose power, by any means. I know you think what you say is funny, but as someone who speaks with a jovial authority, you should have much more historical understanding to back up your understanding of it. What’s happening is textbook and I say this having voted for President Biden. Im at a complete loss at what I’m seeing, as are most Americans that have chosen to turn off the news and find facts beyond what Facebook tells them. 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Frat-Train said: Castro was a part of the Cuban revolution and was a key to the overthrow of Batista…. He then became Prime Minister and took the country to socialism (schooling and healthcare) before aligning with the Soviets under communism. Afterwards, he focused on Chile, Nicaragua and Granada where the socialist ideas were spread under his influence (save for Soviet Union). It’s literally the socialist playbook. Come to power, divide the country, increase power through division, destroy dissent and most importantly…. Do everything not to lose power, by any means. I know you think what you say is funny, but as someone who speaks with a jovial authority, you should have much more historical understanding to back up your understanding of it. What’s happening is textbook and I say this having voted for President Biden. Im at a complete loss at what I’m seeing, as are most Americans that have chosen to turn off the news and find facts beyond what Facebook tells them. Why does this sound familiar ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 FDR / Eisenhower style socialism, dummies. You know, what made America the strongest nation on earth in the 20th century. "Make America Great Again!" You know, like the good old days of the 1950's and early 60's, until the socialist hippy scum ruined everything! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 55 minutes ago, Irv said: Cuba I don't know - should the Federal government be getting involved with taking over a small town in Alleghany County? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: I don't know - should the Federal government be getting involved with taking over a small town in Allegany County? We are the home of "Big Cheese" ! Edited July 12, 2021 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Somebody is "Libyaing" in Cuba. This "homegrown", "organic" protest feels awfully similar to those we saw in Libya and Syria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 57 minutes ago, 716er said: A stunning example of maturity right here. Free Cuba! Free Cuba? lol, the communist wants to free Cuba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Cuba does not have democracy. Socialism imposed by dictators is different than the people elected a government and making decisions. So I guess that means that Venezuela is your model? Good Lord.. the gross, abject acknowledgement on the failure of socialist economic institutions is astounding. How many generations need to pay that price? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, dpberr said: Somebody is "Libyaing" in Cuba. This "homegrown", "organic" protest feels awfully similar to those we saw in Libya and Syria. They might as well chant "CIA" to the heavens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, LeviF said: I don't understand they all have health care and 100% literacy They also have these: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 37 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: I don't know - should the Federal government be getting involved with taking over a small town in Alleghany County? Somebody needs to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Cuba does not have democracy. Socialism imposed by dictators is different than the people elected a government and making decisions. Can you understand that? I usually just laugh at your posts but this one takes the cake. Educate me. How is socialism different when it is implemented by elected officials vs dictators? This ought to be a doosey. What a mess. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, Irv said: I usually just laugh at your posts but this one takes the cake. Educate me. How is socialism different when it is implemented by elected officials vs dictators? This ought to be a doosey. What a mess. so boring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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All_Pro_Bills Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Irv said: I usually just laugh at your posts but this one takes the cake. Educate me. How is socialism different when it is implemented by elected officials vs dictators? This ought to be a doosey. What a mess. Our friend fails to inform us that ultimately even "elected" socialist systems degenerate into the dictatorship model. The reality that the most productive members of society will choose to exit such a situation must be dealt with by forcing them to stay. And as democratic societies work they generally do not share this characteristic. So government force and coercion becomes a necessity. But the fatal flaw of socialism and communism is they ultimately descend into the equal distribution of nothing. Poverty for everyone but the political elite. If you want a firsthand assessment find somebody like my acquaintances that grew up under the Soviet system and watched it fall prior to emigrating the US. They think the lefties here are at best naive idiots and at worst a danger to freedom and democracy to desire such a system. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 CNN Reporters: “And then the Cubans starting carrying white supremacy flags and chanting anti-government slogans” 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, sherpa said: So I guess that means that Venezuela is your model? Good Lord.. the gross, abject acknowledgement on the failure of socialist economic institutions is astounding. How many generations need to pay that price? That's a dictatorship, too. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Just now, Tiberius said: That's a dictatorship, too. Lol You don’t have a clue what you want, you just want to see this great country burn. What a traitor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Seems familiar............😎 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said: You don’t have a clue what you want, you just want to see this great country burn. What a traitor! You are insane. Are you still waiting for Obamacare to kill the world like you all said it would? Morons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Just now, Tiberius said: You are insane. Are you still waiting for Obamacare to kill the world like you all said it would? Morons Unlike you, I neither need nor want obummer care, unlike basement dwellers like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: That's a dictatorship, too. Lol You can "LOL" all you want, but it is a democratically elected government. Total failure, as they always are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 @Irv Can you please add "what a mess" to the OP? This doesn't feel right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Communist tyranny Why do tons of socialists try to say they're not related? 100% socialism and communism are connected China is a socialist country ran by the communist China of party.. Cuba is a socialist country ran by the Communist party of Cuba Socialism and communism go hand in hand Ask karl marx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, sherpa said: You can "LOL" all you want, but it is a democratically elected government. Total failure, as they always are. Venezuela is a dictatorship you idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frat-Train Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 The irony of this thread (and forum) is nobody is in true disagreement of how awful socialism and communism are. There’s just 2-3 posters (and their many sub accounts) that spend day in and out pretending they welcome it, just to get a rise out of people. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Frat-Train said: The irony of this thread (and forum) is nobody is in true disagreement of how awful socialism and communism are. There’s just 2-3 posters (and their many sub accounts) that spend day in and out pretending they welcome it, just to get a rise out of people. Your imaginary enemies. Glad you're now realizing it after our talk yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Venezuela is a dictatorship you idiot Maduro was elected, was he not? That is, until he wasn't. But surely a government can't gain so much power as to make elections moot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Frat-Train said: The irony of this thread (and forum) is nobody is in true disagreement of how awful socialism and communism are. There’s just 2-3 posters (and their many sub accounts) that spend day in and out pretending they welcome it, just to get a rise out of people. Don't you know socialism is good if implemented by the duly elected and not dictators? Ask Tiberius. What a mess. Edited July 12, 2021 by Irv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Venezuela is a dictatorship you idiot I am pleased that you call me an idiot. I have spent many, many of days in Venezuela and watched what has happened first hand. I am well aware of their political system. I am well aware of Jimmy Carter going down there to judge their elections, elections that were "democratically" conducted, as he endorsed them. Otherwise, he would not have gone. Want to tell Jimmy that it is not a "democracy?" He went down there to endorse a dictatorship? I would prefer to not insult posters here, but you sir, are absolutely ignorant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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