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3 hours ago, SCBills said:

I may lean right, but I’ve never been a “build the wall” type.  It’s one of those issues I’m very in the middle on.  
 

I know how lucky I am to be born here and think we need to remember that when we discuss immigration and refugee status.  
 

With all that said…. **** the Biden Administration for denying Cubans political asylum.  This administration is a joke, and this is one of the more disgusting, hypocritical decisions I’ve seen any administration make in a long time.  
 

Semi-open southern border, but Cubans and Haitians… truly those in need of political asylum, we deny.  

Harris went down to Central America and told them to stay home, too. That’s good or bad? Seems pretty consistent with telling Cubans to stay home. 

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1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

No appreciation of democracy? Seems out of favor on the right these days. 

I’m just jerkin’ your chain...lol...sometimes, with all the seriousness, I like to lighten it up a bit...and you always seem to be a good sport about it...👍

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4 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

No one is saying send in troops.

 

No one is saying send money.

 

How about an condemning of the crackdown from our 'leaders, Biden/Harris,

 

One that actually uses the words Communism or Socialism.

 

A little vocal support goes a long, long way.

 

 

I fear it is too late now though............

 

 

 

 

Better to condemn the actual villain, dictatorship. 

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19 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Harris went down to Central America and told them to stay home, too. That’s good or bad? Seems pretty consistent with telling Cubans to stay home. 


I have to imagine this is simply a post that you’re knowingly being disingenuous with. 
 

How long into that crisis did it take for her to say that?

 

How much taxpayer money have we spent on caging up children and airdropping migrants into communities?

 

Is anyone truly stopping them?

 

Meanwhile, 3 days after Cuban protests erupt, under a Communist government, where we see internet shut down, people disappearing, journalists jailed and dissenters beaten… the Biden Admin immediately states that they cannot come here, and if they do, they will be sent back.  

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CUBAN FREEDOM REBELLION SHAKES CUBAN, CHINESE AND AMERICAN SOCIALIST ELITES: 

 

A relevant quote-

 

The communist regime believes the protests and the demands are coordinated. By whom? Cuba’s foreign minister claimed — without evidence — the U.S. had financed the protests. Typical communist narrative warfare — blame the U.S. The CCP blamed the U.S. for inciting Tiananmen’s and Hong Kong’s pro-democracy protests.

 

Fidel Castro had charisma. International “progressive” leftists — sad cases like Senator Bernie Sanders, I-VT, and Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-NY — still venerate Fidel and excuse the regime’s vicious tyranny.

 

Diaz-Canel has minus personality, so 2021’s regime suffers from a severe charisma deficit it cannot blame on America. He just isn’t capable of jiving mass audiences with “hope” and utopian rhetoric. However, he is as long winded as Fidel. The BBC reported he gave a four-hour-long televised rant calling protestors “counter-revolutionaries.” He stated, “The order of combat is given, the revolutionaries take to the streets.”

 

More narrative warfare: “Revolutionaries” translated from Commie propaganda means “armed thugs the regime provides with food and toilet paper.” Diaz-Canel was ordering his security forces to attack the demonstrators. He hopes repression works.

 

Read the entire essay.

 

https://strategypage.com/on_point/2021071420125.aspx

 

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20 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Democracy now! 

 

This is is what happens to a place that gets run by a cult like idiot. No wonder the people are protesting 

 

No, it's what happens when a nation succumbs, however which way, to the wrong Economic and Political systems.  The Man or reason doesn't matter, it's the outcome of Communism/Socialism (whatever you want to call the opposite of individual economic freedom) that leads to such human misery that there would be such protests.  

 

It also happens to be the trajectory that our American Left is dragging us into, in the name of "Equality"

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Just now, OrangeBills said:

 

No, it's what happens when a nation succumbs, however which way, to the wrong Economic and Political systems.  The Man or reason doesn't matter, it's the outcome of Communism/Socialism (whatever you want to call the opposite of individual economic freedom) that leads to such human misery that there would be such protests.  

 

It also happens to be the trajectory that our American Left is dragging us into, in the name of "Equality"

You have to remember, tibs says whatever his puppet masters tell him to say. Most of the time it’s contradictory. He doesn’t know any better. So sad 

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4 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

CUBAN FREEDOM REBELLION SHAKES CUBAN, CHINESE AND AMERICAN SOCIALIST ELITES: 

 

A relevant quote-

 

The communist regime believes the protests and the demands are coordinated. By whom? Cuba’s foreign minister claimed — without evidence — the U.S. had financed the protests. Typical communist narrative warfare — blame the U.S. The CCP blamed the U.S. for inciting Tiananmen’s and Hong Kong’s pro-democracy protests.

 

Fidel Castro had charisma. International “progressive” leftists — sad cases like Senator Bernie Sanders, I-VT, and Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-NY — still venerate Fidel and excuse the regime’s vicious tyranny.

 

Diaz-Canel has minus personality, so 2021’s regime suffers from a severe charisma deficit it cannot blame on America. He just isn’t capable of jiving mass audiences with “hope” and utopian rhetoric. However, he is as long winded as Fidel. The BBC reported he gave a four-hour-long televised rant calling protestors “counter-revolutionaries.” He stated, “The order of combat is given, the revolutionaries take to the streets.”

 

More narrative warfare: “Revolutionaries” translated from Commie propaganda means “armed thugs the regime provides with food and toilet paper.” Diaz-Canel was ordering his security forces to attack the demonstrators. He hopes repression works.

 

Read the entire essay.

 

https://strategypage.com/on_point/2021071420125.aspx

 

Bomb the Presidential Palace in Havana.  But first invite BLM leadership to attend the event.   

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3 hours ago, OrangeBills said:

 

No, it's what happens when a nation succumbs, however which way, to the wrong Economic and Political systems.  The Man or reason doesn't matter, it's the outcome of Communism/Socialism (whatever you want to call the opposite of individual economic freedom) that leads to such human misery that there would be such protests.  

 

It also happens to be the trajectory that our American Left is dragging us into, in the name of "Equality"

Nope, if the people can vote the system can be changed. 

 

This is about authoritarianism. Look at us, we have a great system that Trump voters hate and want to destroy and install dictatorship.  But we are protected from that evil because of the ballot. It’s great! 

20 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Bomb the Presidential Palace in Havana.  But first invite BLM leadership to attend the event.   

BLM did not attack the national legislature attempting to take away the voice of the people in chosen their leader 

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22 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Nope, if the people can vote the system can be changed. 

 

 

Are you truly this naive?  It's not just having the ability to vote.  It's who you're voting for that actually makes the changes and if they don't make any changes you have what we have here.  Good on the Cuban people  

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On 7/13/2021 at 11:48 AM, Tiberius said:

that’s how it works, use racism to divide people. It’s worked pretty well for Conservatives for centuries 

Maybe Biden’s CIA is at work promoting democracy 

 

But you the liberal democrat would never stoop to such a form of diversity to make your point or get what you want ... 🙄

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5 hours ago, Tiberius said:

BLM did not attack the national legislature attempting to take away the voice of the people in chosen their leader 

All BLM did was loot a bunch of businesses, burned down others, extort money and tribute, and beat and terrorize a lot of people in numerous cities while "peacefully protesting".  All while disguising their Marxist objective with the race hustle.  

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1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

All BLM did was loot a bunch of businesses, burned down others, extort money and tribute, and beat and terrorize a lot of people in numerous cities while "peacefully protesting".  All while disguising their Marxist objective with the race hustle.  

“Not that there’s anything wrong with that.”

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8 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

“Not that there’s anything wrong with that.”

And I should add got away with all of it without being subjected to any adverse consequences whatsoever, no arrests, no jail time, no bad press, no nothing.  All while raking in big money donated by all kinds of fools and cowards.  And getting smothered with hugs and kisses from all the usual players while the rest of the country watched these terrorists operating with impunity.  All in all a nauseating and sicking display of terrorism.  Leaving me wondering why any of us should be held to any standard of following or obeying the law given the tolerance for these dirt bags.  Maybe all the guys arrested and held without bail for 1/6 need to do is put on a BLM tie shirt over prison garb and use that get out of jail free card?  The guards seeing this will immediately release them!    

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ROGER SIMON: Cuba, Iran, and the Shame of the United States.

 

If I hadn’t left the Democratic Party years ago, I would leave it now.

 

Their namby-pamby, lip-service reaction to the uprising of the Cuban people against 62 years of brutal communist oppression is shameful beyond words.

Apparently, the protests are a bit inconvenient for them. AOC might be embarrassed if they said or did anything, not to mention Bernie.

 

The Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas warned Cuban refugees not to come (while the border is open to practically everybody else, from Houthis to extra-terrestrials) put the capper on it.

 

The Coast Guard has evidently already been alerted not to allow this freedom-loving riff-riff on our shores. After all, some of them might vote Republican.

Cuban-born himself, Mayorkas’ behavior is not that far from the Jewish Kapos who kept order for the Nazis inside the concentration camps. What he’s done—no doubt on orders from above—is that repellent.

 

But the Democrats clearly had and have more important fish to fry, like prolonging the fiction that another freedom-oriented demonstration (Jan. 6), clumsy as it might have been, was a veritable “insurrection.” (The poor folks just somehow forgot to bring guns.)

 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/cuba-iran-and-the-shame-of-the-united-states_3903345.html

 

 

 

 

Related: Former Florida Democrat Congresswoman Scolds AOC for Blaming Cuba Crisis on U.S.

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/former-florida-dem-congresswoman-scolds-aoc-for-blaming-cuba-crisis-on-u-s/

 

 

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Trump taking advantage of Cuba situation to raise money. 

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Trump emailed supporters an "official poll" asking about their thoughts on the US' Cuba policy.

"Do you agree that Joe Biden MUST stand up to Cuba's Communist regime?" it asked.

Both "yes" and "no" answers linked to the fundraising page to Trump's Save America PAC.

 

Any word on Trump calling democracy in Cuba? 

 

Biden has. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-official-poll-cuba-links-fundraising-page-2021-7

3 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

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You are scared Biden will win over Cuban Americans as Biden calls for democracy in Cuba. 

 

Is Trump calling for democracy there? Trump just let Hong Kong go with barely a peep. 

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54 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Trump taking advantage of Cuba situation to raise money. 

Any word on Trump calling democracy in Cuba? 

 

Biden has. 

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-official-poll-cuba-links-fundraising-page-2021-7

You are scared Biden will win over Cuban Americans as Biden calls for democracy in Cuba. 

 

Is Trump calling for democracy there? Trump just let Hong Kong go with barely a peep. 

I hope Biden does bring freedom to Cuba and that he stops communism cold.

 

He won't, but I hope he does.

 

I agree about Hong Kong, though that was the UK's treaty to enforce and they didn't, I sure wish Trump would have sanctioned the hell out of China for HK.

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4 minutes ago, Demongyz said:

I hope Biden does bring freedom to Cuba and that he stops communism cold.

 

He won't, but I hope he does.

 

I agree about Hong Kong, though that was the UK's treaty to enforce and they didn't, I sure wish Trump would have sanctioned the hell out of China for HK.

Democracy is not a priority at all for Trump. He sees it likePutin does, a threat. Hence more restrictions on voting 8n red states, attempts to sabotage the postal system. Trump is just a wannabe dictator 

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Just now, Tiberius said:

Democracy is not a priority at all for Trump. He sees it likePutin does, a threat. Hence more restrictions on voting 8n red states, attempts to sabotage the postal system. Trump is just a wannabe dictator 

They vote in Russia, I thought wherever they voted all was hunky dory...

 

You can't troll me to hard on Trump, I can't stand him, better work on that pal.

 

 

 

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Cuba protests: The economic woes driving discontent

 

Soaring global food prices and the island’s devalued currency — coupled with longtime shortages of basic goods and the decades-long United States embargo — helped spark the recent demonstrations.

 

Cuba’s coronavirus pandemic-ravaged economy shrank by 11 percent in 2020, the island’s economy minister said, the sharpest contraction since the collapse of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2021/7/16/cuba-protests-the-economic-woes-helping-drive-discontent

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BLM activists question equal exercise of Florida protest law

 

Gov. Ron DeSantis signed into Florida law a measure earlier this year that boosts penalties against demonstrators who turn violent and creates new criminal penalties for those who organize demonstrations that get out of hand. Provisions of the law also make it a felony to block some roadways and give immunity to people who drive through protesters blocking a road.

 

Demonstrators on Tuesday in Miami, Tampa and Orlando temporarily blocked busy roads, chanting support for the Cubans who had taken to the streets in the communist nation Sunday to air grievances about poor economic conditions and other issues.

 

“When they protest for regime change, which aligns with the governor’s political viewpoint ... you see no enforcement from law enforcement,” said Michael Sampson, who co-founded the Jacksonville Community Action Committee, one of many groups that sprung up under the banner of the Black Lives Matter movement.

 

“I think it’s just downright hypocrisy we’re seeing from the governor, and even law enforcement in how they’re applying this law. It goes to show how our fears that we had earlier … that it will be used against Black people fighting for equal rights,” he added.

 

https://apnews.com/article/florida-race-and-ethnicity-laws-4b896f297a4474e2bef171b31c30de41

 

Cubans vote republican so they can break Florida law.

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On 7/16/2021 at 11:47 AM, Tiberius said:

Democracy is not a priority at all for Trump. He sees it likePutin does, a threat. Hence more restrictions on voting 8n red states, attempts to sabotage the postal system. Trump is just a wannabe dictator 

 

Dictators (wannabe or otherwise) don't leave office upon losing an election.  :rolleyes:

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When you lead a failed insurrection and don't have the backing of the military you leave either on your own two feet or in a body bag. There was only so much time that trump could hide in his bunker beneath the White House before the military came in and put him in the bag.

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HMM: To Free Cuba, Make Guantanamo the New Ellis Island.

 

The drowning risk for incoming Cuban refugees could be entirely eliminated by inviting the Cubans seeking freedom and democracy to make their way by land to Guantanamo. At the navy base, their applications could be processed, they could be vaccinated against Covid-19, and they could eventually be transported safely to America by airplane or in seaworthy vessels.

 

The images of this exodus would help advance what Mr. Biden professes to be a core foreign policy objective. In his July 15 “Washington Declaration” with Chancellor Merkel, Mr. Biden said, “We must act now to demonstrate that democracy delivers for our people at home and that democratic leadership delivers for the world.”

 

Forget Biden’s words and watch his actions instead — and his actions show he’s no friend of liberty in Cuba or here.

 

 

https://www.nysun.com/foreign/to-free-cuba-make-guantanamo-the-new-ellis-island/91585/

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

HMM: To Free Cuba, Make Guantanamo the New Ellis Island.

 

The drowning risk for incoming Cuban refugees could be entirely eliminated by inviting the Cubans seeking freedom and democracy to make their way by land to Guantanamo. At the navy base, their applications could be processed, they could be vaccinated against Covid-19, and they could eventually be transported safely to America by airplane or in seaworthy vessels.

 

The images of this exodus would help advance what Mr. Biden professes to be a core foreign policy objective. In his July 15 “Washington Declaration” with Chancellor Merkel, Mr. Biden said, “We must act now to demonstrate that democracy delivers for our people at home and that democratic leadership delivers for the world.”

 

Forget Biden’s words and watch his actions instead — and his actions show he’s no friend of liberty in Cuba or here.

 

 

https://www.nysun.com/foreign/to-free-cuba-make-guantanamo-the-new-ellis-island/91585/

 

 

 

This is brilliant, the US needs to implement this immediately.  Let's free those who want freedom.

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Silenced!  What’s Happening Now in Cuba?

by John Stossel

 

Are they still protesting in Cuba? I don’t know. The Cuban government has shut off the Cuban people’s internet. The big demonstrations began four weeks ago, sparked, curiously, by a rap song. The key lyric is: “Freedom! No more Doctrine!” “Doctrine” refers to the “constant cycle of propaganda” from the government, explains Cuban emigre Alian Collazo in my newest video. Sadly, silly TV reporters in America claimed the protests were about “hunger, pandemic restrictions and the lack of COVID vaccinations

 

https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/08/11/silenced-whats-happening-now-in-cuba/

 

 

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