ChiGoose Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Orlando Tim said: Who has been arrested for any book so far? You set a standard that does not exist and then feign outrage. In fact you seem to agree with the actual roll out of the law, just now with the media coverage The law allows for a felony charge. You’re fine with that solely because nobody has been charged yet? When did conservatives suddenly turn into boot lickers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: The law allows for a felony charge. You’re fine with that solely because nobody has been charged yet? When did conservatives suddenly turn into boot lickers? Boot lickers can exist on either side when the government is doing things they agree with…👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 46 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: The law allows for a felony charge. You’re fine with that solely because nobody has been charged yet? When did conservatives suddenly turn into boot lickers? LOL! So the law hasn't caught anyone yet, you're just whining about it potentially doing it sometime in the future. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 2 hours ago, ChiGoose said: The law allows for a felony charge. You’re fine with that solely because nobody has been charged yet? When did conservatives suddenly turn into boot lickers? So your argument is that I should be allowed to give a child in my class straight porn and the worst is I get fired? I should be allowed to show a 3rd grader how to perform oral sex and jail is not appropriate? Clearly you and I disagree on this, which is fine, but your dishonesty about what would be required in order to be arrested and charge is pathetic. BTW why do you support jail for someone who simply gives a 20 year old a beer in your state? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: This was the final straw in a string of problems for this school. It has seen terrible performance academically lately and they wanted her gone and found an excuse. If this was truly the only reason I would agree it is ridiculous but the school is performing poorly and she gave them an excuse. I will also point out this is a charter school so the rules are different. https://www.schooldigger.com/go/FL/schools/0111008746/school.aspx Well you can bet kids at that school aren't going to be seeing Michelagelo's David there ever again. You think that's a good thing? 3 anally retentive, prude parents decide for the whole (publicly financed) school? What if these idiots decide girls should keep their heads and faces covered so as not to entice boys? And you all complain about vax mandates robbing you of your freedom... some freedoms are less important than others I suppose... Edited March 26, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Well you can bet kids at that school aren't going to be seeing Michelagelo's David there ever again. You think that's a good thing? 3 anally retentive, prude parents decide for the whole (publicly financed) school? What if these idiots decide girls should keep their heads and faces covered so as not to entice boys? And you all complain about vax mandates robbing you of your freedom... some freedoms are less important than others I suppose... The parents were Muslim? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 44 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: So your argument is that I should be allowed to give a child in my class straight porn and the worst is I get fired? I should be allowed to show a 3rd grader how to perform oral sex and jail is not appropriate? Clearly you and I disagree on this, which is fine, but your dishonesty about what would be required in order to be arrested and charge is pathetic. BTW why do you support jail for someone who simply gives a 20 year old a beer in your state? Could you *for once* not make up ***** about what I do and do not believe? You do not know me and instead of responding to my arguments, you’re just making up lies. You’re inability to answer simple questions and constant deflection and lying is ridiculous and childish. My argument has always been very simple: the state government should not make it a crime to stock books that do not fit an ideological narrative. As you pointed out, existing delinquency and child endangerment laws already cover the scenario you seem obsessed with. Which would seem to make the Florida law redundant or moot if that was its actual purpose. Would you support a law making it a crime to stock books in a school library that do not fit the most socialist lefty pinko commie narrative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 31 minutes ago, Doc said: The parents were Muslim? https://www.insider.com/handmaids-tale-based-on-real-world-origins-history-events-2019-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Wait...that's not what I meant. 🤣 “*****, onanism, bestiality, prostitution, genital mutilation, *****, dildos, rape, and even infanticide,” the parent, who noted that they have actually read the Bible, wrote. “You’ll no doubt find that the Bible, under Utah Code Ann. § 76-10-1227, has ‘no serious values for minors’ because it’s pornographic by our new definition.” “Get this PORN out of our schools,” they continued. “If the books that have been banned so far are any indication for way lesser offenses, this should be a slam dunk.” 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) I like beer better than wine. But I like bourbon best... https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/25/trump-desantis-gop-primary-00088730 Trump has a 17-point lead among Republicans without a college degree (up from a 10-point lead in February). And while DeSantis still leads among voters with a four-year degree, 40 percent to 28 percent, Trump has significantly cut into what was a 29-point deficit with those voters in the past month. Even were he not able to make inroads on DeSantis’ turf, Trump has an inherent advantage. A decades-long realignment has pushed college-educated voters toward Democrats — an already-existing trend that Trump accelerated — making the GOP’s “beer track” the larger cohort among Republican primary voters. Such divides defined the 2016 GOP presidential primary, propelling Trump to a once-unlikely nomination and, ultimately, the presidency. Edited March 26, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Shocker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 10 hours ago, Gene Frenkle said: Wait...that's not what I meant. 🤣 “*****, onanism, bestiality, prostitution, genital mutilation, *****, dildos, rape, and even infanticide,” the parent, who noted that they have actually read the Bible, wrote. “You’ll no doubt find that the Bible, under Utah Code Ann. § 76-10-1227, has ‘no serious values for minors’ because it’s pornographic by our new definition.” “Get this PORN out of our schools,” they continued. “If the books that have been banned so far are any indication for way lesser offenses, this should be a slam dunk.” Actually I agree that public schools should not be promoting the bible. Many kids are not ready for the stories of the bible and how brutal life used to be. Parents should be the ones guiding kids, and in high school it should be allowed to be present in school media centers, not younger. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 1 hour ago, BillStime said: Shocker It's his only play. move towards trump rhetoric. but those who buy this crap already support and will continue to support trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Reminder: Curating a school library is not like Nazis burning books But, keep on hyperventilating, it is very instructive. . 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, B-Man said: Reminder: Curating a school library is not like Nazis burning books Now where have we heard this before? Not a thought of his own lmao 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 For everyone’s information there are fewer and fewer actual books in the typical school library these days. They are very expensive to purchase, store and maintain. The key skill of a school librarian is actually in teaching students how to navigate through the limitless sources found on the internet….not how to use the Dewey Decimal System. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: For everyone’s information there are fewer and fewer actual books in the typical school library these days. They are very expensive to purchase, store and maintain. The key skill of a school librarian is actually in teaching students how to navigate through the limitless sources found on the internet….not how to use the Dewey Decimal System. Banning books isn’t mitigated by the total number available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: Banning books isn’t mitigated by the total number available Of course not. I’m just pointing out what school libraries are all about these days. I designed them for a living! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 12 hours ago, Big Blitz said: I thought the Lincoln project were republicans that were against trump. Now DeSantis as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chris farley said: I thought the Lincoln project were republicans that were against trump. Now DeSantis as well. They’re for democracy; not autocrats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chris farley said: I thought the Lincoln project were republicans that were against trump. Now DeSantis as well. No, just another bunch of pedophile Dems... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 hours ago, redtail hawk said: Banning books isn’t mitigated by the total number available 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Of course not. I’m just pointing out what school libraries are all about these days. I designed them for a living! They are not libraries, they are media centers because they handle all versions of media available, including books. And it is not a ban, since all of these books are available in the Library system, the difference is when my daughter orders a book for delivery I get to see it before it arrives. Using the word ban is either dishonest or pathetically ill informed at this point. I am also not allowed to discuss politics at school, am I banned from being political? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Doc said: No, just another bunch of pedophile Dems... People in glass houses... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Reminder that parents are the dumbest knuckle dragging snowflakes out there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/26/2023 at 2:29 AM, Gene Frenkle said: Wait...that's not what I meant. 🤣 “*****, onanism, bestiality, prostitution, genital mutilation, *****, dildos, rape, and even infanticide,” the parent, who noted that they have actually read the Bible, wrote. “You’ll no doubt find that the Bible, under Utah Code Ann. § 76-10-1227, has ‘no serious values for minors’ because it’s pornographic by our new definition.” “Get this PORN out of our schools,” they continued. “If the books that have been banned so far are any indication for way lesser offenses, this should be a slam dunk.” Great! Makes sense to me. Another book with no place in public elementary school. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 40 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Reminder that parents are the dumbest knuckle dragging snowflakes out there. No kids for you? heck yeah. the corporate funded state would be a much better parent. SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Chris farley said: No kids for you? heck yeah. the corporate funded state would be a much better parent. SMH Hmm, would I rather have education designed by people with PhDs and masters degrees in child psychology, education, arts, etc. or Would I rather have education designed by Breighlynn, the high-school dropout mom of two with mild alcoholism and a belief that 5G towers cause autism? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Hmm, would I rather have education designed by people with PhDs and masters degrees in child psychology, education, arts, etc. or Would I rather have education designed by Breighlynn, the high-school dropout mom of two with mild alcoholism and a belief that 5G towers cause autism? Most parents want to know what their kids are taught vs some elitist snob that tries to call them insults for taking care of what they brought into the world. Its all good. fits with the modern left. good comment. perfectly summarized the modern left. Edited March 27, 2023 by Chris farley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Most parents want to know what their kids are taught vs some elitist snob that tries to call them insults for taking care of what they brought into the world. Its all good. fits with the modern left. good comment. perfectly summarized the modern left. Would you trust your barber to repair the timing belt on your car? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commsvet11 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Would you trust your barber to repair the timing belt on your car? Are you stupid? 20 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Hmm, would I rather have education designed by people with PhDs and masters degrees in child psychology, education, arts, etc. or Would I rather have education designed by Breighlynn, the high-school dropout mom of two with mild alcoholism and a belief that 5G towers cause autism? Common Core. That’s all that has to be said about that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Commsvet11 said: Are you stupid? This is not a rebuttal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commsvet11 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Roundybout said: This is not a rebuttal. You tried to make a point on saying parents should have no say in their children’s education because they aren’t qualified by an institution. I am going to take a stab saying you aren’t a parent are you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Commsvet11 said: You tried to make a point on saying parents should have no say in their children’s education because they aren’t qualified by an institution. I am going to take a stab saying you aren’t a parent are you? Parents can have a say at school board meetings. They should not be able to delete parts of the curriculum just because it hurts their feelings, like this law allows. Edited March 27, 2023 by Roundybout 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 40 minutes ago, Chris farley said: Most parents want to know what their kids are taught vs some elitist snob that tries to call them insults for taking care of what they brought into the world. Its all good. fits with the modern left. good comment. perfectly summarized the modern left. they have every right to send their kids to private schools if they disagree with what is being taught by mainstream educators. I hear there's even a private school run by avowed nazis. or they can homeschool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commsvet11 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Parents can have a say at school board meetings. They should not be able to delete parts of the curriculum just because it hurts their feelings, like this law allows. I think it’s a good idea, it’s a check system where subject matter can be reviewed and if needed added to or discarded. Again the example of common core comes to mind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: they have every right to send their kids to private schools if they disagree with what is being taught by mainstream educators. I hear there's even a private school run by avowed nazis. or they can homeschool. They shouldn’t have their tax $$ confiscated by the school system and Teachers Union if they choose a private school. Therein lies the b#*+h. Dems / Libs don’t want competition to their insane agenda because it’s a loser if the public is given real choice. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: They shouldn’t have their tax $$ confiscated by the school system and Teachers Union if they choose a private school. Therein lies the b#*+h. Dems / Libs don’t want competition to their insane agenda because it’s a loser if the public is given real choice. “Insane agenda” is when you teach that Jackie Robinson experienced racism, amirite? Edited March 27, 2023 by Roundybout 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: They shouldn’t have their tax $$ confiscated by the school system and Teachers Union if they choose a private school. Therein lies the b#*+h. Dems / Libs don’t want competition to their insane agenda because it’s a loser if the public is given real choice. So should people without kids be free from paying school taxes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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