DeSantis For President in 2024?

[Roundybout]

1 minute ago, Commsvet11 said:

I think it’s a good idea, it’s a check system where subject matter can be reviewed and if needed added to or discarded. Again the example of common core comes to mind 

Then do it at the school board meeting. Why should it be pulled after ONE parent comment?

[Tommy Callahan]

44 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Would you trust your barber to repair the timing belt on your car?

you get a second opinion if your primary is wrong? diagnosis?

 

 

Its gotta be interesting to be just smart enough to blindly trust anyone by degree.

 

What a world view.   SMH

 

 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 minute ago, Chris farley said:

you get a second opinion if your primary is wrong? diagnosis?

 

 

Its gotta be interesting to be just smart enough to blindly trust anyone by degree.

 

What a world view.   SMH

 

 

 

 

who is blindly trusting anyone with a degree?  trump has a couple and I don't trust him as far as I can throw him...

[Commsvet11]

5 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Then do it at the school board meeting. Why should it be pulled after ONE parent comment?

 
Was the parents comment correct? It could be a bug in the system that will get sorted out 

[Tommy Callahan]

4 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

“Insane agenda” is when you teach that Jackie Robinson experienced racism, amirite?

So if your talking CRT.  if the topic was say Rosa Parks. the lesson plan would be around Claudette Colvin and why everyone remembers Rosa, but not Claudette.

 

If it was Jacki Robenson, it might be Moses Fleetwood Walker and why that was not the same as Jacki in a different time period.

 

But just imagine they are not teaching about Rosa or Jacki.

 

 

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

8 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

So should people without kids be free from paying school taxes?

In my opinion yes , but that’s a different issue altogether. Change the school funding formula for sure. There are many ideas out there, but one thing is certain. Libs believe THEY know better than the parents and have an agenda they want carried out no matter what. 

[Tommy Callahan]

19 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

they have every right to send their kids to private schools if they disagree with what is being taught by mainstream educators.  I hear there's even a private school run by avowed nazis.  or they can homeschool.

So you support vouchers. now?  

 

And would add that most that can, send their kids to private.  in the big picture, our public schools been failing kids for decades.  

 

 

 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

Just now, Boatdrinks said:

In my opinion yes , but that’s a different issue altogether. Change the school funding formula for sure. There are many ideas out there, but one thing is certain. Libs believe THEY know better than the parents and have an agenda they want carried out no matter what. 

So when you go to a restaurant and the cashier can't make change or speak an understandable sentence, who is most to blame?  People would need to be crazy to go into teaching in this toxic environment.

[Roundybout]

9 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

you get a second opinion if your primary is wrong? diagnosis?

 

 

Its gotta be interesting to be just smart enough to blindly trust anyone by degree.

 

What a world view.   SMH

 

 

 

 

All our institutions are built on the reliance of people with specialized roles to fill those roles. I don’t want morons with room temperature IQ making decisions on the education of my child. 

8 minutes ago, Commsvet11 said:

 
Was the parents comment correct? It could be a bug in the system that will get sorted out 

The parent is a special snowflake whose feelings are hurt because her kid has to learn that racism exists. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 minute ago, Chris farley said:

So you support vouchers. now?  

 

And would add that most that can, send their kids to private.  in the big picture, our public schools been failing kids for decades.  

 

 

 

 

 

No.  I believe we all benefit from having an educated population and should therefore share the cost of public education.  I do realize that generally education is a higher priority for liberals than conservatives, however.

[Commsvet11]

1 minute ago, Roundybout said:

All our institutions are built on the reliance of people with specialized roles to fill those roles. I don’t want morons with room temperature IQ making decisions on the education of my child. 

Oh the irony 

[Boatdrinks]

4 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

So when you go to a restaurant and the cashier can't make change or speak an understandable sentence, who is most to blame?  People would need to be crazy to go into teaching in this toxic environment.

Liberals, for the most part. They don’t care if the kids can read or write : if they can’t they just dumb it down and pass them. Standards be damned. Eliminate honors courses. Just be sure they know pronouns and celebrate LBGTQwhatever. Be certain they believe Trump and the USA are bad, and that pursuit of excellence is racist. Great job Libs ! 

Your belief is wrong , though. Libs don’t care about education and that’s obvious. Their answer to failure in education is always to remove or lower standards. They care about indoctrination. Sharing the cost of education is one thing , but the current method is a failure. Vouchers are probably a good idea. 

Edited March 27, 2023 by Boatdrinks

[Tommy Callahan]

4 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Liberals, for the most part. They don’t care if the kids can read or write : if they can’t they just dumb it down and pass them. Standards be damned. Eliminate honors courses. Just be sure they know pronouns and celebrate LBGTQwhatever. Be certain they believe Trump and the USA are bad, and that pursuit of excellence is racist. Great job Libs ! 

Your belief is wrong , though. Libs don’t care about education and that’s obvious. Their answer to failure in education is always to remove or lower standards. They care about indoctrination. Sharing the cost of education is one thing , but the current method is a failure. Vouchers are probably a good idea. 

Across the board our graduates are falling behind the rest of the world. and we keep lowering standards and push social wedge topics.

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

42 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Parents can have a say at school board meetings. 
 

They should not be able to delete parts of the curriculum just because it hurts their feelings, like this law allows.

But Libs are all about feelings ! You know if you’re a man but feel like being a girl that means you’re a girl by golly! 

[Roundybout]

Just now, Boatdrinks said:

But Libs are all about feelings ! You know if you’re a man but feel like being a girl that means you’re a girl by golly! 

Meanwhile republicans can’t handle seeing a naked man and decide to ban it the statue of David

[Boatdrinks]

11 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

All our institutions are built on the reliance of people with specialized roles to fill those roles. I don’t want morons with room temperature IQ making decisions on the education of my child. 

The parent is a special snowflake whose feelings are hurt because her kid has to learn that racism exists. 

Are you okay with the airline Pilot on your flight getting the job because they’re a person of color rather than the most qualified ? 
 Unfortunately those with room temperature IQs are making decisions on educational curricula across the country. BLM, LGTBQ, pronouns, “ institutional racism “ etc etc. Reading, writing and Arithmetic are out the window. They may have their useless degrees, but these are some very dumb people. 

[Tommy Callahan]

2 hours ago, Roundybout said:

Meanwhile republicans can’t handle seeing a naked man and decide to ban it the statue of David

this story? 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/25/florida-principal-resigns-michelangelo-david

 

With the principal that resigned cause one Karen. ?  in the very small Christian charter school

 

Go on all day finding stories of one off morons in this huge country.

 

and we know if you find one, that means everyone shares that same negative trait.

 

SMH.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 27, 2023 by Chris farley

[Boatdrinks]

5 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Meanwhile republicans can’t handle seeing a naked man and decide to ban it the statue of David

Statue of David is fine. It’s a work of high art. I don’t agree with any Republican who has an issue with the statue of David. I mean, it’s not pornography. 

[Tommy Callahan]

3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Statue of David is fine. It’s a work of high art. I don’t agree with any Republican who has an issue with the statue of David. I mean, it’s not pornography. 

From the article. sounds like a crazy Karen did so bad the principal resigned.

 

 

[Roundybout]

9 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Are you okay with the airline Pilot on your flight getting the job because they’re a person of color rather than the most qualified ? 
 Unfortunately those with room temperature IQs are making decisions on educational curricula across the country. BLM, LGTBQ, pronouns, “ institutional racism “ etc etc. Reading, writing and Arithmetic are out the window. They may have their useless degrees, but these are some very dumb people. 

I disagree very much with the actions of school boards in California to lower standards, yes. What does this have to do with idiot Karen’s using this Florida law to ban anything they don’t like?

Edited March 27, 2023 by Roundybout

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

I disagree very much with the actions of school boards in California to lower standards, yes. What does this have to do with idiot Karen’s using this Florida law to ban anything they don’t like?

 

How about changing school names?  Removing statues?  Shouting down speakers?  Do you also have a problem with those?

[Boatdrinks]

1 minute ago, Roundybout said:

I disagree very much with the actions of school boards in California to lower standards, yes. What does this have to do with idiot Karen’s using this Florida law to ban anything they don’t like?

It was just a general question. I wasn’t referring to any Florida law and I’m not familiar with it. It’s a fine line , but the statue of David belongs in a school. A book describing a gay relationship does not imo. At least not until a certain age. Definitely not elementary or even junior high school. 

[Roundybout]

8 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

How about changing school names?  Removing statues?  Shouting down speakers?  Do you also have a problem with those?

Anything Confederate should be relegated to a museum where we can point and laugh at the traitors who tried to tear the union apart. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

12 hours ago, Roundybout said:

Reminder that parents are the dumbest knuckle dragging snowflakes out there.

 

So parents didn’t want their second grade child to watch a PG rated movie (assuming you are unfamiliar with what PG abbreviates) under the stewardship of the local public school in case they needs to understand complicated themes..  and that makes them dumb knuckle dragging snowflakes?
😂

 

do the wold a favor- please don’t procreate or adopt.  Draw the line at hearty houseplant. 

 

Edited March 28, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[Orlando Tim]

I asked my media center specialist today why it was that one parent could get an historically accurate movie pulled from the whole school when 90+% approved of their children watching. (I will add here I fully support the few parents who wanted their children pulled from class that day) The big reason is that someone in the school district wants to make a big deal of it. There is no reason that the review had to be more than a quick meeting, with all people stating the movie is historically accurate and does not blame children for what their grandparents might have done.  The larger shut down of the film is someone using it for a showboating  reason.

[Tommy Callahan]

16 hours ago, Orlando Tim said:

I asked my media center specialist today why it was that one parent could get an historically accurate movie pulled from the whole school when 90+% approved of their children watching. (I will add here I fully support the few parents who wanted their children pulled from class that day) The big reason is that someone in the school district wants to make a big deal of it. There is no reason that the review had to be more than a quick meeting, with all people stating the movie is historically accurate and does not blame children for what their grandparents might have done.  The larger shut down of the film is someone using it for a showboating  reason.

Sick. They are supposed to be educators. not using kids as props for politics. 

 

 

On 3/27/2023 at 3:00 PM, Roundybout said:

I disagree very much with the actions of school boards in California to lower standards, yes. What does this have to do with idiot Karen’s using this Florida law to ban anything they don’t like?

its not just cali. 

 

Its nuts NYS doesn't even require math or science past the 10th grade for graduation.

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

On 3/27/2023 at 2:50 PM, Boatdrinks said:

Are you okay with the airline Pilot on your flight getting the job because they’re a person of color rather than the most qualified ? 
 Unfortunately those with room temperature IQs are making decisions on educational curricula across the country. BLM, LGTBQ, pronouns, “ institutional racism “ etc etc. Reading, writing and Arithmetic are out the window. They may have their useless degrees, but these are some very dumb people. 

you mean like the people who run the space program, develop medicines and new surgeries, encode the human genome, develop AI etc?  Those morons?

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, redtail hawk said:

you mean like the people who run the space program, develop medicines and new surgeries, encode the human genome, develop AI etc?  Those morons?

You think people with gender studies and DEI degrees are encoding the genome?

 

🤣😂🤣😅😂🤣😅😂🤣🤭

[Joe Ferguson forever]

6 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

You think people with gender studies and DEI degrees are encoding the genome?

 

🤣😂🤣😅😂🤣😅😂🤣🤭

I think seeking knowledge in almost any field is a worthwhile pursuit.  Some areas much more impactful than others.  The common denominator is education.  Which I support.  You?

[Tommy Callahan]

41 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

I think seeking knowledge in almost any field is a worthwhile pursuit.  Some areas much more impactful than others.  The common denominator is education.  Which I support.  You?

 

 

70/20/10 rule no longer exist with knowledge?

 

 

 

70% is experience.

 

20% from others.

 

10% formal education

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

7 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

 

 

70/20/10 rule no longer exist with knowledge?

 

 

 

70% is experience.

 

20% from others.

 

10% formal education

 

 

hmmm, astrophysicists learn 70% from experience?  Book learning of math and physics is only 10%.  And for Chemists?  Book learning about bonds, thermodynamics, the periodic table etc = 10%.  Geneticists?  Physicians?

nope, not in my experience😂

"They asked nearly 200 executives to self-report on how they believe they learned. The results were shocking — at least at the time. 

Respondents suggested that 70% of their learning came from challenging assignments (or experience on the job). A further 20% came from developmental relationships (or through social learning). Together, these two methods are often referred to as informal learning. That’s because they don’t follow a specified pattern and occur naturally on their own. 

The last piece of the puzzle is formal learning. The model states that only 10% of our learning is down to formal training and a structured learning programme."

 

You see executives and scientists are usually two different sets of people.  Scientists would have asked a representative swath of the population how they thought they learned and then test the hypothesis with studies.

 

Edited March 29, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Tommy Callahan]

Just now, redtail hawk said:

hmmm, astrophysicists learn 70% from experience?  Book learning of math and physics is only 10%.  And for Chemists?  Book learning about bonds, thermodynamics, the periodic table etc = 10%.  Geneticists?  Physicians?

nope, not in my experience😂

Just stating a known and used formula for Knowledge vs information.  

 

https://inchainge.com/knowledge/experiential-learning/70-20-10/

 

And that's just one link to a generic site. there are entire books on this topic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

11 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

You see executives and scientists are usually two different sets of people.  Scientists would have asked a representative swath of the population how they thought they learned and then test the hypothesis with studies.

And you just explained the scientist learning through the 70% and 20 factor. 

 

the 10% would be said scientist taking a formal class on it.

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

Just now, Chris farley said:

Just stating a known and used formula for Knowledge vs information.  

 

https://inchainge.com/knowledge/experiential-learning/70-20-10/

 

And that's just one link to a generic site. there are entire books on this topic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

entire books.  wow!  based on a survey of 200 executives that no doubt advanced deep knowledge of our existence disproportionally to other professionals...

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, redtail hawk said:

I think seeking knowledge in almost any field is a worthwhile pursuit.  Some areas much more impactful than others.  The common denominator is education.  Which I support.  You?

 

Education is not the common denominator when ‘knowledge’ and ‘education’ are repurposed to propagate nonsense, politically derived narratives and pseudoscience.  
 

In some cases it runs deliberately counter to education, it actually fills a vacuum of no knowledge with bad knowledge.  
 

It’s far more important to educate with facts and hard science as well as critical thinking and logic… and let knowledge grow organically. 

[Roundybout]

6 hours ago, Chris farley said:

Sick. They are supposed to be educators. not using kids as props for politics. 

 

 

its not just cali. 

 

Its nuts NYS doesn't even require math or science past the 10th grade for graduation.

 

 

I agree. Making standards easier instead of providing more funding to schools is the easy way out in the short term, with long term negative effects. 

[Tommy Callahan]

6 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

I agree. Making standards easier instead of providing more funding to schools is the easy way out in the short term, with long term negative effects. 

The problem is we also are near the top in the nation for cost as well.  Seems we have been tossing money at it.  It's more than that.  

 

https://teaching-certification.com/teaching/education-spending-by-state/

 

Edited March 29, 2023 by Chris farley

[Doc]

You can toss all the money at it you want.  If a parent(s) don't want to stress the value of education and/or the kids don't want to put in the work, there's little you can do.

[BillStime]

[Warcodered]

On 3/29/2023 at 3:43 PM, BillStime said:

 

[BillStime]

Don’t let the cult fool you - they don’t care about our kids