BigdaddyinOrlando Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 I agree and can see him posting upwards of 8 sacks and much more pressure up the middle which will as a result lead to better numbers from the outside! I’m excited to see him this year for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 19 minutes ago, Simon said: At the risk of insulting usually reasonable people, his detractors have no clue what the hell they're actually looking at Well I was looking at the top 25 DT list and guess who’s NOT on it , need a clue ? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 If Ed is playing his natural 3-Tech position this year, and we are getting solid 1-Tech play from Star or Harry, then I am expecting anywhere between 10-14 sacks and 10 more tfl's to go along with it. I think last year's experience will help him even more so because of the fact he faced those double teams for a majority of the season while playing out of position. If you can take on and get wins against two 300lb+ starting OL'man, then going against one is gonna be like you gave a fat kid a box of Ho Hos. Ed's gonna eat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 It better be because my pitchfork is ready to go! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Ed's horse approves of this post 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 27 minutes ago, Putin said: Well I was looking at the top 25 DT list and guess who’s NOT on it , need a clue ? Ooooh, a list 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 If he doesn't replicate Aaron Donald numbers this year, he's a bust! Or not... He's already pretty solid. Any improvement will be nice, but he's done well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Putin said: Just hypothetically if we were to trade Oliver what could we get for him ?? At this moment, in his career? 🤔 I would like to think, at least, a bottom half of the first round pick...but it’s really hard to tell because he really hasn’t done much to stand out...potential is still there, but who knows? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Poyer wasn’t even close? Ehhhhhhh. Dude 😎 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Dude 😎 Keep reading john 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: At this moment, in his career? 🤔 I would like to think, at least, a bottom half of the first round pick...but it’s really hard to tell because he really hasn’t done much to stand out...potential is still there, but who knows? You really never know what NFL GMs really think about a player until he is available. Honestly if we got a 2nd that would be a win, if we were trading him, which I do not support doing. His potential is better than his actual value right now is all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 27 minutes ago, Simon said: Ooooh, a list Yes a list that has Josh as a TOP 5 QB , 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Putin said: We have Star for that , Oliver was drafted to put pressure and get to the QB Exactly, but the fact Ed was the next best Star replacement and did a solid job is eye opening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Needs to take another big step. Edmunds too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said: I'm not an Ed Oliver fan. He just doesn't make enough plays for a 9th overall pick. If he develops this year, I'll be more than happy to be wrong. I find it very difficult to ascertain what exactly he is supposed to do on any given play. God knows it can't be trying to make the tackle. I have never seen him hold a double team either. Not saying he didn't, but I never saw it. I like to think I watch closely but I don't watch like I used to (I use to watch the game in slow-mo and really break it down. I think it may be the only way to really know.) His stats are terrible and he is often the last one to react after the snap. This is weird because he moved very fast at the snap in college. I think we play a weird defense that was never successful in Buffalo before so it is hard to judge what a player is supposed to do in this D. We're used to attacking defenses and simple ball. if Anyone recalls, Kyle never rushed the passer once McD was here either, so WTF? I have also seen Tremaine not attack the ball where he was clearly frustrated that he could not (because that is what he is coached to do, keep the ball in front of him.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, DJB said: Needs to take another big step. Edmunds too. A BIG step ?? you just crossed the line 😱 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Oliver is a much better player than Edmunds IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Oliver is all effort and athleticism. Not a lot of rush skill. Needs to develop some pass rush moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, 2020 Our Year For Sure said: Oliver is a much better player than Edmunds IMO I hope both will take a big step this year , we need our top 5 defense back to make a run at the SB !!! Edited June 21, 2021 by Putin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, H2o said: If Ed is playing his natural 3-Tech position this year, and we are getting solid 1-Tech play from Star or Harry, then I am expecting anywhere between 10-14 sacks and 10 more tfl's to go along with it. I think last year's experience will help him even more so because of the fact he faced those double teams for a majority of the season while playing out of position. If you can take on and get wins against two 300lb+ starting OL'man, then going against one is gonna be like you gave a fat kid a box of Ho Hos. Ed's gonna eat. They've been saying this about Oliver since college. At some point we just have to say he is what he is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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