I just saw DK Metcalf in a Nestle Quik commercial....

[bahamasbills]

5 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

So, really, why care if a multimillionaire doesn’t get even more money? Josh has enough money right now to never need a job for the rest of his life.., I just don’t get this one percent worship thing…, Josh as the team QB on the team I follow is fine, but he is a multimillionaire and he is about to get even more money he doesn’t actually need, so why the concern for his fame and financial well-being?  I just can’t wrap my mind around ball washing one percenters…

 

Go Bills!!!

Its not about him making money.  I think this is one of the problems our franchise still faces.  Players and agents take these things into consideration when looking for a free agent destination.  If our biggest star cant get endorsements its not a good look on the franchise as a whole.

[Mickey]

Nestle's Quik? Puhleez, I was always a PDQ man myself. Pity they stopped making it. Don't even get me started on Bosco.

 

 

 

[John from Riverside]

The fact that Josh Allen is not on a Jake from State Farm commercial at this point is blasphemy

[Bangarang]

2 hours ago, bahamasbills said:

Its not about him making money.  I think this is one of the problems our franchise still faces.  Players and agents take these things into consideration when looking for a free agent destination.  If our biggest star cant get endorsements its not a good look on the franchise as a whole.

This is so dramatic. 

[RiotAct]

13 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

The fact that Josh Allen is not on a Jake from State Farm commercial at this point is blasphemy

you mean the fact that Jake Fromm isn’t?

[bahamasbills]

1 hour ago, Bangarang said:

This is so dramatic. 

Which part was dramatic?  

 

I never said we were doomed, just pointing out that players do take this into consideration.  

[The Wiz]

Was it chocolate or strawberry?

 

Strawberry is where the money is at. 

[Bangarang]

15 minutes ago, bahamasbills said:

Which part was dramatic?  

 

I never said we were doomed, just pointing out that players do take this into consideration.  

The part about how it’s not a good look for the franchise. 

[bahamasbills]

5 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

The part about how it’s not a good look for the franchise. 

Do you think players and agents take that kind of stuff into consideration? 

 

Now winning cures everything, but as of right now we are one of the least marketable franchises.  I collect cards, and although Josh Allen cards are going for a pretty penny, I cant help but believe that they would be even higher if he played for another franchise.  A lot of times on facebook when collectors are calling out the top qbs they are looking to buy, Allen is left out and lesser players are listed.  

 

 

[Punching Bag]

1 hour ago, RiotAct said:

you mean the fact that Jake Fromm isn’t?

 

Jake Fromm is PERFECT for insurance is suppose to be for when something goes wrong and that was exactly what his role.

 

Maybe his agent should market him for new Maytag washing machine repairman commercial.

[Bangarang]

53 minutes ago, bahamasbills said:

Do you think players and agents take that kind of stuff into consideration? 

 

Now winning cures everything, but as of right now we are one of the least marketable franchises.  I collect cards, and although Josh Allen cards are going for a pretty penny, I cant help but believe that they would be even higher if he played for another franchise.  A lot of times on facebook when collectors are calling out the top qbs they are looking to buy, Allen is left out and lesser players are listed.  

 

 

I think it depends entirely on the player. I’m sure it’s possible that some of the more elite free agents have taken it into consideration at some point. 
 

Consider how many elite players there are in the league without big time endorsements. Do their franchises look bad because of it? These guys are also in big market cities as well. Players want to win and get paid. I think you’re overstating this endorsement stuff. 

[bahamasbills]

44 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

I think it depends entirely on the player. I’m sure it’s possible that some of the more elite free agents have taken it into consideration at some point. 
 

Consider how many elite players there are in the league without big time endorsements. Do their franchises look bad because of it? These guys are also in big market cities as well. Players want to win and get paid. I think you’re overstating this endorsement stuff. 

Thing is it goes a lot deeper than just endorsements.  It also bleeds into all star voting, all pro voting, hall of fame, etc.  Players love to be recognized.  Out of all the Qb's that are considered top 5 Josh probably is the only one without any major deals.  We are just lucky Josh isn't an egomaniac because the wrong qb would be counting his days to get to a more marketable team.  Players want to win and get paid, but most also love to be seen.

[Bangarang]

37 minutes ago, bahamasbills said:

Thing is it goes a lot deeper than just endorsements.  It also bleeds into all star voting, all pro voting, hall of fame, etc.  Players love to be recognized.  Out of all the Qb's that are considered top 5 Josh probably is the only one without any major deals.  We are just lucky Josh isn't an egomaniac because the wrong qb would be counting his days to get to a more marketable team.  Players want to win and get paid, but most also love to be seen.

I think you’re really reaching with this. We’ve had players make the Pro Bowl in years we were bad. We’ve had players make All Pro teams recently. Good players get recognized, albeit it’s harder when you play for a bad team but that’s the case pretty much everywhere. Josh is widely considered one of the best QBs in the league and is about to be paid like one. Not sure I get what your beef is.

[bahamasbills]

28 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

I think you’re really reaching with this. We’ve had players make the Pro Bowl in years we were bad. We’ve had players make All Pro teams recently. Good players get recognized, albeit it’s harder when you play for a bad team but that’s the case pretty much everywhere. Josh is widely considered one of the best QBs in the league and is about to be paid like one. Not sure I get what your beef is.

The OP made mention about Josh not having and major endorsements.  I pointed out that thats one of the weak points of being on our franchise.  I dont see whats so hard to get.  

 

Yes we have had players make the pro bowl after the first and second string declined.  Yes we have had all pro players who probably should have been all pro from the year before.  

 

Of course we are going to pay Josh, I don't see what that has to do with the topic.  And yes he is widely considered one of the best players, but yet he isn't getting the endorsements he probably should.  

[Don Otreply]

7 hours ago, bahamasbills said:

Its not about him making money.  I think this is one of the problems our franchise still faces.  Players and agents take these things into consideration when looking for a free agent destination.  If our biggest star cant get endorsements its not a good look on the franchise as a whole.

A reasonable hypothesis on your part, I hope Josh makes as much as he can, I’m just not interested in that aspect of football, it seems like misplaced idolization to me. 

[Don Otreply]

12 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Yikes! It’s interesting that you immediately go to the money side of things. If you ever get any you’re going to figure out that you do very little of what you do for the money. Your focus will be on the challenge of achieving something you didn’t think you could. 

I only referred to a pay check, as a football player I truly hope he becomes the best, I’m just not interested in a current multimillionaire making making more money, I don’t begrudge him in the slightest, it’s just not what interests me about Bills football. 

12 hours ago, Tortured Soul said:

 

The more he gets from endorsements, the more he's willing to forego from the Bills?

Unlikely, two different business transaction going on there, that and the Bills can not currently offer Josh more fame or endorsements from outside entities. 

[Bangarang]

27 minutes ago, bahamasbills said:

The OP made mention about Josh not having and major endorsements.  I pointed out that thats one of the weak points of being on our franchise.  I dont see whats so hard to get.  

 

Yes we have had players make the pro bowl after the first and second string declined.  Yes we have had all pro players who probably should have been all pro from the year before.  

 

Of course we are going to pay Josh, I don't see what that has to do with the topic.  And yes he is widely considered one of the best players, but yet he isn't getting the endorsements he probably should.  

It’s not hard to get. There’s just nothing supporting your speculation other than that’s what you believe. 
 

Which endorsements should he be getting?
 

Bills fans are so insecure. Everything is taken as disrespect for some strange reason. 

[Mr. WEO]

8 hours ago, bahamasbills said:

Its not about him making money.  I think this is one of the problems our franchise still faces.  Players and agents take these things into consideration when looking for a free agent destination.  If our biggest star cant get endorsements its not a good look on the franchise as a whole.

 

Huh?  What's this got to do with the Bills?

 

 

[bahamasbills]

32 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

It’s not hard to get. There’s just nothing supporting your speculation other than that’s what you believe. 
 

Which endorsements should he be getting?
 

Bills fans are so insecure. Everything is taken as disrespect for some strange reason. 

Not really taking it as disrespect.  I think when we win the super bowl this year we will get the recognition.  Was simply pointing out in my opinion, based on what I have seen over the years Bills players do often get overlooked because we didn't win any of those super bowls and have been losing since.  

 

I also think the Pegulas are doing a much better job marketing the team and putting the franchise in a better light than Wilson did in his last years.  I think there are a lot of politics behind the scenes and having owners who actively market, promote the team, and make the media welcomed plays a big part in this.

[bahamasbills]

19 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

Huh?  What's this got to do with the Bills?

 

 

Most outsiders do not respect the franchise (because we lost all the super bowls, and have been losing for a long while).  I think Josh not having any big endorsements are because of the team he plays on.  We will have to win the big one before all that comes (and I think its coming soon), but the reality is our players have to stand out a lot more than some other players to get some recognition nationally.

[Mr. WEO]

29 minutes ago, bahamasbills said:

Most outsiders do not respect the franchise (because we lost all the super bowls, and have been losing for a long while).  I think Josh not having any big endorsements are because of the team he plays on.  We will have to win the big one before all that comes (and I think its coming soon), but the reality is our players have to stand out a lot more than some other players to get some recognition nationally.

 

The Browns had been the laughing stock of league for a generation, but Mayfield got national endorsements pretty quick--because of his notoriety in college.  

 

In the greater NFL realm, few people had heard of Josh Allen before he was drafted....because he came from a school in the middle of nowhere.  Since then, he has had one above average season.  If the Bills win the SB, or at least go to it, maybe he'll get some endorsements.   Like Mahomes.

 

 

[Solomon Grundy]

15 hours ago, cage said:

Given that, how on earth does Allen not have a major brand advertising agreement yet??

 

https://www.ispot.tv/topic/athlete/Z7Q/josh-allen

But I thought DK was a cheese lover??

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, bahamasbills said:

Not really taking it as disrespect.  I think when we win the super bowl this year we will get the recognition.  Was simply pointing out in my opinion, based on what I have seen over the years Bills players do often get overlooked because we didn't win any of those super bowls and have been losing since.  

 

I also think the Pegulas are doing a much better job marketing the team and putting the franchise in a better light than Wilson did in his last years.  I think there are a lot of politics behind the scenes and having owners who actively market, promote the team, and make the media welcomed plays a big part in this.

 

This is an ownership the suspended its own Minister of Propaganda for (briefly) acting (sort of) as a member of the press by describing on the team's radio show where a few players were lining up in training camp....

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

I think its because Buffalo is a small market team

[TroutDog]

Josh should be in every advert made for EVERY product henceforth.
 

There, the silly arguments can stop! 😃 

[machine gun kelly]

18 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

The fact that Josh Allen is not on a Jake from State Farm commercial at this point is blasphemy

You mean Josh From State Farm. 🤪😇

 

you’re the man, man.

 

As far as a small market thing, it won’t matter if he lights it up again.  Rodgers has done more than enough commercials in probably the smallest market team in America.  Indy’s not big either and we’ll Peyton M.  Once the media pundits fawn all over him as he repeats this year, we’ll see him more than enough.

[bahamasbills]

20 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

The Browns had been the laughing stock of league for a generation, but Mayfield got national endorsements pretty quick--because of his notoriety in college.  

 

In the greater NFL realm, few people had heard of Josh Allen before he was drafted....because he came from a school in the middle of nowhere.  Since then, he has had one above average season.  If the Bills win the SB, or at least go to it, maybe he'll get some endorsements.   Like Mahomes.

 

 

Allen had an above average season?!  Are you really gonna just downplay a great season to try and prove a point?

 

I already said if we win the SB the endorsements will come in, but Mahomes was getting the endorsements before they won the super bowl.  He wasnt a big college star.  Point is buffalo players always have to do a little extra for that recognition.

20 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

This is an ownership the suspended its own Minister of Propaganda for (briefly) acting (sort of) as a member of the press by describing on the team's radio show where a few players were lining up in training camp....

Main point I was making is the current owners seem to market the team and players a little better.  Suspending Chris Brown was probably just a little warning shot to others, but it doesnt mean they arent welcoming to the media. 

 

Either way main thing I was trying to say was the owners look to be trying to make our team more likeable to the media in general.  To me it seems they also saw how the national media, fans, and players from other teams viewed the franchise and set out to fix it.  Its why they went over the top on the training facility.  Its like hey look over here this is the new Buffalo Bills, we arent scared to spend money, we want the league to notice us finally. 

[Mr. WEO]

7 minutes ago, bahamasbills said:

Allen had an above average season?!  Are you really gonna just downplay a great season to try and prove a point?

 

I already said if we win the SB the endorsements will come in, but Mahomes was getting the endorsements before they won the super bowl.  He wasnt a big college star.  Point is buffalo players always have to do a little extra for that recognition.

Main point I was making is the current owners seem to market the team and players a little better.  Suspending Chris Brown was probably just a little warning shot to others, but it doesnt mean they arent welcoming to the media. 

 

Either way main thing I was trying to say was the owners look to be trying to make our team more likeable to the media in general.  To me it seems they also saw how the national media, fans, and players from other teams viewed the franchise and set out to fix it.  Its why they went over the top on the training facility.  Its like hey look over here this is the new Buffalo Bills, we arent scared to spend money, we want the league to notice us finally. 

 

Read it again....I said "one above average" season.  It was a great one.  I don't see anything Pegula is doing in particular to market this team.   Winning is doing that.

 

No, he wasn't a "big" college star.....Mahomes was a massive college star:

 

As a Freshman, he had 4 starts, including against Baylor, where he threw for 600 yards and 6 TDs.

As a Sophomore, he had 4600 yards and 36 TDS

As a Junior, he lead the country in YPG, total yards passing, total yards offense, total points scored, and TD passes (53!)

He currently holds the NCAA records for passing yards in a game (734!) and total yards in a game (819).

 

In his first season as Chiefs starter, he was:

 

Pro Bowler

1st team All Pro

NFL Offensive Player of the year

NFL MVP

Lead the Chiefs to AFCC.... at home

 

....and all of this was "before they won the Super Bowl".

 

So...everything you said (and know) about Mahomes is clearly wrong (and so easily proven so).  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[colin]

it makes sense metcalf is in an ad for a product called quick.  if there were a product called say nabisco arm strength, allen would have that on lock.

[Victory Formation]

On 6/21/2021 at 8:11 AM, Don Otreply said:

So, really, why care if a multimillionaire doesn’t get even more money? Josh has enough money right now to never need a job for the rest of his life.., I just don’t get this one percent worship thing…, Josh as the team QB on the team I follow is fine, but he is a multimillionaire and he is about to get even more money he doesn’t actually need, so why the concern for his fame and financial well-being?  I just can’t wrap my mind around ball washing one percenters…

 

Go Bills!!!

Well, the reason I love Allen is because he was my #2 overall prospect the year we drafted him. I caught tons of flak for my opinion, so like Boogie, he is a special player to me, I’d probably have Tre right behind him because I hated that pick initially but now I love him. I’m not the type to wear jerseys or that type of thing, but I lucked out twice. The two players I pounded the table for, I got. 

[Don Otreply]

3 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

Well, the reason I love Allen is because he was my #2 overall prospect the year we drafted him. I caught tons of flak for my opinion, so like Boogie, he is a special player to me, I’d probably have Tre right behind him because I hated that pick initially but now I love him. I’m not the type to wear jerseys or that type of thing, but I lucked out twice. The two players I pounded the table for, I got. 

That’s fine, and understandable, but his financial well-being was forged for life when he was picked, so what he earns from that point forward is not ever going to be a concern, what he does on the field is the only worthwhile thing to give notice too. After all, he is a football player, and that is where to look for gains.

[Punching Bag]

On 6/21/2021 at 10:15 PM, bahamasbills said:

Most outsiders do not respect the franchise (because we lost all the super bowls, and have been losing for a long while).  I think Josh not having any big endorsements are because of the team he plays on.  We will have to win the big one before all that comes (and I think its coming soon), but the reality is our players have to stand out a lot more than some other players to get some recognition nationally.

 

That makes sense but how did Browns' QB get an endorsement?  They have shown nothing since they were recreated and have been a joke especially with owners.

[Matt_In_NH]

It’s the inferiority complex. 

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Let me see if I can help in this discussion. 

 

To get a national commercial you have to be a handsome man.

 

Baker is a handsome man with a hot wife. Baker has not accomplished anything more than Josh football wise.

 

Mahommes is a handsome man.

 

Rodgers is a handsome man.

 

Josh ? Well not so much. I'm very sorry.

 

I hope this helps.

 

It's all about marketing and getting someone good looking to sell your product.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

On 6/21/2021 at 8:26 AM, Tortured Soul said:

 

The more he gets from endorsements, the more he's willing to forego from the Bills?

Honestly, the more endorsements, the more national exposure.

 

The more national exposure, the bigger star he becomes

 

The bigger of a star he becomes, the better ratings

 

The better ratings, the more the NFL ‘protects’ him

 

The more he’s protected, the longer he plays

 

Longer he plays, the more we win 👍🏼 

[benderbender]

There’s no such thing as “enough.” The proof is John Cena. Net worth above 60 million and still sacrificed his dignity for the chance at future earnings. 

[Blank Stare]

1 hour ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Let me see if I can help in this discussion. 

 

To get a national commercial you have to be a handsome man.

 

Baker is a handsome man with a hot wife. Baker has not accomplished anything more than Josh football wise.

 

Mahommes is a handsome man.

 

Rodgers is a handsome man.

 

Josh ? Well not so much. I'm very sorry.

 

I hope this helps.

 

It's all about marketing and getting someone good looking to sell your product.

Can’t tell if you are joking. You don’t think Allen is at least as good looking as Mahomes, Baker, or Rodgers? Adonis those 3 are not.
 

Josh keeps it up, his time in the national spotlight is coming. 

[The Wiz]

On 6/25/2021 at 5:21 PM, Limeaid said:

 

That makes sense but how did Browns' QB get an endorsement?  They have shown nothing since they were recreated and have been a joke especially with owners.

1st overall pick and a good agent.

[Mr. WEO]

On 6/25/2021 at 5:21 PM, Limeaid said:

 

That makes sense but how did Browns' QB get an endorsement?  They have shown nothing since they were recreated and have been a joke especially with owners.

 

Not sure about that?

 

Mayfield was a Heisman Trophy winner, brought Oklahoma to the CFB playoffs two out of 3 years--all originally as a walk-on.

 

 In 3 years he threw 120 TDs on 21 INTs at Oklahoma. 

 

As a rookie, he passed P Manning and Russ Wilson for most TDs and was named 2018 PFWA Rookie of the Year.