Tiberius Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share Posted June 23, 2021 9 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Critical Class Theory. American democracy? So, we still have democracy then? The election of Biden was fair, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 9 hours ago, Big Blitz said: LOL - clowns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Critical Race Theory is NOT about teaching history. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 According to the establishment media, critical race theory, or CRT, is a distraction. It is a right-wing smear. It is a conservative attempt to quash the dark side of American history. Most of all, according to the establishment media, you must never -- ever -- pay attention to the infusion of CRT into the nation's institutions of power. According to MSNBC's Chuck Todd, controversy over CRT is a "creation ... It keeps people watching or it keeps people clicking." According to CNN's Bakari Sellers, CRT is just "America's history." According to The Washington Post's Jonathan Capehart, those who criticize CRT are merely attempting to prevent "us from learning our history." Critical race theory, of course, is not America's actual history. It is a perverse worldview, unsupportable by the evidence, in which all of America's key institutions are inextricably rooted in white supremacy; it is an activist campaign demanding the destruction of those institutions. The founders of CRT have written as much. According to CRT founders Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic, CRT is founded on two key premises: that "racism is ordinary, not aberrational -- 'normal science,' the usual way society does business, the common, everyday experience of most people of color in this country"; second, that "our system of white-over-color ascendancy serves important purposes, both psychic and material." This means, according to Delgado and Stefancic, that "racism is difficult to cure or address" and that a formal commitment to legal equality on the basis of color-blindness is merely a guise for further discrimination. Furthermore, CRT founders say that whites are unable to understand racism, and that "minority status ... brings with it a presumed competence to speak about race and racism." CRT therefore holds that racism is embedded deeply in American life, unconsciously into white American psyches, and that it is impossible for white Americans to understand their own racism or that of the system, let alone to remove it. The only solution: tearing away the only systems that have ever provided widespread liberty and prosperity. As fellow CRT founder Derrick Bell wrote, "The whole liberal worldview of private rights and public sovereignty mediated by the rule of law needed to be exploded." CRT isn't merely a tool of legal analysis, either, as many of its dishonest defenders claim. Delgado and Stefancic are clear: "Although CRT began as a movement in the law, it has rapidly spread beyond that discipline. Today, many in the field of education consider themselves critical race theorists ... Political scientists ponder voting strategies coined by critical race theorists ... Unlike some academic disciplines, critical race theory contains an activist dimension." https://townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/2021/06/23/the-movement-against-critical-race-theory-is-deeply-necessary-n2591397 Critical Race Theory proponents want you to think that the only way this history gets taught in schools is through the adoption of their worldview, but indoctrinating with any particular worldview runs counter to how education should operate. The point of education is to teach a student to think, not tell them how to think. And it damn sure isn’t about teaching kids how to think of themselves and others solely through the lens of racial identity. This is not teaching about critical race theory; it is teaching in critical race theory. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share Posted June 23, 2021 DeSantis banned CRT in Florida schools According to the Miami Herald, “The theory is not taught in any Florida school districts, state officials acknowledge.” The theory is not taught in any Florida school districts, state officials acknowledge. Still, DeSantis is repeatedly injecting it into discussions about how teachers should deliver lessons on civics and history to more than 2 million public school students in Florida. Appearing on Fox News Saturday night, DeSantis said he would start getting involved in school board races to attack candidates who support the education approach. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article251909718.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) WELL, IT DOES CONSIST OF OPEN RACE DISCRIMINATION: Critical Race Theory May Violate Civil Rights Act, the Constitution: Dr. Carol Swain. And its adoption by a school or employer certainly creates a hostile environment based on race. https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/critical-race-theory-may-violate-civil-rights-act-the-constitution-dr-carol-swain_3868093.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email2&utm_campaign=mb-2021-06-23&mktids=e83bb27a92229a47a727a02164e96fbf&est=hQ%2FYuIEGAyTi%2FaACZAjF%2FTvAy0akeuwldohRyLPV1OPtePcc%2FR81QNf5g36s2ZTkeQbb1Q%3D%3D Edited June 23, 2021 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share Posted June 23, 2021 He just doesn't want the ugly history of violent racism taught. It's a white wash Quote After state Senator Randolph Bracy (D-Orlando) got the legislature to approve $1 million in spending to develop and distribute an educational video on the 1920 Ocoee Election Day Massacre—in which a white mob killed dozens of Black Floridians on Election Day in 1920—as “an honest recognition of our past,” DeSantis vetoed the plan. The governor didn’t explain why, but Bracy told the Herald, “He has been very vocal about not really wanting for us to teach about race in our schools, so that could be his reasoning.” https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/florida-desantis-racism-schools/ 1 minute ago, B-Man said: WELL, IT DOES CONSIST OF OPEN RACE DISCRIMINATION: Critical Race Theory May Violate Civil Rights Act, the Constitution: Dr. Carol Swain. And its adoption by a school or employer certainly creates a hostile environment based on race. A theory violates the constitution??? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, Tiberius said: A theory violates the constitution??? LOL Example #35,659 of Tib's idiocy https://www.thenewneo.com/2021/06/22/five-tenets-of-crt-and-what-they-mean/ Five tenets of CRT and what they mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, Tiberius said: DeSantis banned CRT in Florida schools Nothing wrong with that. We've been using flat screens for the past 15 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share Posted June 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, B-Man said: Example #35,659 of Tib's idiocy https://www.thenewneo.com/2021/06/22/five-tenets-of-crt-and-what-they-mean/ Five tenets of CRT and what they mean According to some right wing wackjob site. No thanks. Did you see its not taught? Did you see DeSantis doesn't want a race riot taught about? Conservative racism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 More distractions! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 11 hours ago, unbillievable said: it would be a lot quick to just throw a grenade in the middle of the group and see who falls on it. There's your winner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, B-Man said: Critical Race Theory is NOT about teaching history. . Expecting poc to teach white people is white supremacy? Colorblindness ? and my favorite- paternalism? So a teacher who is using their classroom or school board authority to push onto children they are secretly oppressive if they do any of these things… isn’t that Paternalism? What a bunch of gobbledygook. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Blitz Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: DeSantis banned CRT in Florida schools According to the Miami Herald, “The theory is not taught in any Florida school districts, state officials acknowledge.” The theory is not taught in any Florida school districts, state officials acknowledge. Still, DeSantis is repeatedly injecting it into discussions about how teachers should deliver lessons on civics and history to more than 2 million public school students in Florida. Appearing on Fox News Saturday night, DeSantis said he would start getting involved in school board races to attack candidates who support the education approach. https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article251909718.html So it is actually a thing Thank you for clarifying this Miami Herald. No one fall for this "it's not real" crap. Look at all your kids lessons and activities in all grades K-12 and you'll see elements of it everywhere. Look at the "training" they are asking employees to do from public schools to most likely a job near you. And then see who is sponsoring it. Go to https://www.learningforjustice.org/ This is just one of many far left outlets providing lesson plans not just for History classes....but English class as well. All grades K-12. Districts are mandating that teachers use these as resources. To teach subjects not only complex or controversial - but are often over the teachers Pay grade and proper educational background. Edited June 23, 2021 by Big Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: So it is actually a thing Thank you for clarifying this Miami Herald. No one fall for this "it's not real" crap. Look at all your kids lessons and activities in all grades K-12 and you'll see elements of it everywhere. Look at the "training" they are asking employees to do from public schools to most likely a job near you. And then see who is sponsoring it. Go to www.learningforjustice.org This is just one of many far left outlets providing lesson plans not just for History classes....but English class as well. All grades K-12. Districts are mandating that teachers use these as resources. To teach subjects not only complex or controversial - but are often over the teachers Pay grade and proper educational background. Where will this end? Concentration camps for Trump voters? You think black people are a threat, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Nice to see the level of professionalism and respect as Milley watched Matt Gaetz shake his head in disgust and didn't fire back at him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 It's not real!!!! https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/pledge-to-teach-truth Here Are The Thousands Of Teachers Who Say They’re Willing To Violate Law To Keep Pushing CRT Thousands of teachers have pledged to continue teaching based on critical race theory even if state laws ban it — contradicting the claims of those who seek to quell parents’ anger by claiming nothing like that has ever been taught in schools. The Zinn Education Project, named after the anti-American and factually challenged historian Howard Zinn, has collected signatures from more than 4,200 teachers who “Pledge to Teach the Truth: Despite New State Bills Against It.” The pledge says: A recent bill introduced in the Missouri legislature exemplifies a rash of similar bills — in Texas, Idaho, Arkansas, Iowa, Louisiana, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, West Virginia, Arizona, and North Carolina — that aim to prohibit teachers from teaching the truth about this country: It was founded on dispossession of Native Americans, slavery, structural racism and oppression; and structural racism is a defining characteristic of our society today…. We the undersigned educators will not be bullied. We will continue our commitment to develop critical thinking (hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha) that supports students to better understand problems in our society, and to develop collective solutions to those problems. We are for truth-telling and uplifting the power of organizing and solidarity that move us toward a more just society… https://www.dailywire.com/news/here-are-the-thousands-of-teachers-who-say-theyre-willing-to-violate-law-to-keep-pushing-crt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) Aaron that is correct. We don't need to teach K thru 8 graders just a list of the parade of horribles that the greatest and freest nation on earth, who did more by just writing a document about freedom, then any other country on the planet did including fighting and dying in order that all can be free. What the Democrats have done since 1832 from the Trail of Tears to slavery to secession to segregation to the KKK we already teach that. Aaron's friends wants to teach it from a context the white man is evil. And we're all racists. Suuuure. Not that big Government is the issue. And that's the problem Aaron. Edited June 24, 2021 by Big Blitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 2 hours ago, BillStime said: Nice to see the level of professionalism and respect as Milley watched Matt Gaetz shake his head in disgust and didn't fire back at him. Perfect that you link a video of a person that says "critical race theory....whatever it is....." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Big Blitz said: A recent bill introduced in the Missouri legislature exemplifies a rash of similar bills — in Texas, Idaho, Arkansas, Iowa, Louisiana, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, West Virginia, Arizona, and North Carolina — that aim to prohibit teachers from teaching the truth about this country: It was founded on dispossession of Native Americans, slavery, structural racism and oppression Those Bills do no such thing. 3 hours ago, Big Blitz said: It's not real!!!! https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/pledge-to-teach-truth Here Are The Thousands Of Teachers Who Say They’re Willing To Violate Law To Keep Pushing CRT Thousands of teachers have pledged to continue teaching based on critical race theory even if state laws ban it — contradicting the claims of those who seek to quell parents’ anger by claiming nothing like that has ever been taught in schools. The Zinn Education Project, named after the anti-American and factually challenged historian Howard Zinn, has collected signatures from more than 4,200 teachers who “Pledge to Teach the Truth: Despite New State Bills Against It.” The pledge says: A recent bill introduced in the Missouri legislature exemplifies a rash of similar bills — in Texas, Idaho, Arkansas, Iowa, Louisiana, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, West Virginia, Arizona, and North Carolina — that aim to prohibit teachers from teaching the truth about this country: It was founded on dispossession of Native Americans, slavery, structural racism and oppression; and structural racism is a defining characteristic of our society today…. We the undersigned educators will not be bullied. We will continue our commitment to develop critical thinking (hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha) that supports students to better understand problems in our society, and to develop collective solutions to those problems. We are for truth-telling and uplifting the power of organizing and solidarity that move us toward a more just society… https://www.dailywire.com/news/here-are-the-thousands-of-teachers-who-say-theyre-willing-to-violate-law-to-keep-pushing-crt Well it looks like @BillStime is not alone when it comes to being critical of a Bill they probably never read. Here is part of the TN the covers CRT. Quote This amendment also prohibits any LEA or public charter school from including or promoting the following concepts as part of a course of instruction or in a curriculum or instructional program, or allowing teachers or other employees of the LEA or public charter school to use supplemental instructional materials that include or promote the following concepts: (1) One race or sex is inherently superior to another race or sex; (2) An individual, by virtue of the individual's race or sex, is inherently privileged, racist, sexist, or oppressive, whether consciously or subconsciously; (3) An individual should be discriminated against or receive adverse treatment because of the individual's race or sex; (4) An individual's moral character is determined by the individual's race or sex; (5) An individual, by virtue of the individual's race or sex, bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex; (6) An individual should feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or another form of psychological distress solely because of the individual's race or sex; (7) A meritocracy is inherently racist or sexist, or designed by a particular race or sex to oppress members of another race or sex; (8) This state or the United States is fundamentally or irredeemably racist or sexist; (9) Promoting or advocating the violent overthrow of the United States government; (10) Promoting division between, or resentment of, a race, sex, religion, creed, nonviolent political affiliation, social class, or class of people; or (11) Ascribing character traits, values, moral or ethical codes, privileges, or beliefs to a race or sex, or to an individual because of the individual's race or sex. This amendment does not prohibit an LEA or public charter school from including, as part of a course of instruction or in a curriculum or instructional program, or from allowing teachers or other employees of the LEA or public charter school to use supplemental instructional materials that include: (1) The history of an ethnic group, as described in textbooks and instructional materials adopted in accordance with present law concerning textbooks and instructional materials; (2) The impartial discussion of controversial aspects of history; (3) The impartial instruction on the historical oppression of a particular group of people based on race, ethnicity, class, nationality, religion, or geographic region; or (4) Historical documents that are permitted under present law, such as the national motto, the national anthem, the state and federal constitutions, state and federal laws, and supreme court decisions. Those of you screaming bloody murder regarding these Bills please explain what is wrong with the above quoted text from the TN bill. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Omg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 ... Oh hey look. Another 2 pages of Rah-Rah shouting (I'm too tired to go into specifics rn but I have been watching this thread). ... @Tiberius I tried to give you a quick run-down of what I objectively thought were serious flaws in the structure of Critical Race Theory (CRT) while avoiding a full-flung description of the entire thing (since idk, you seem to be on a major time crunch maybe?). Considering that we are typically on the same side of things, I figured that you would give me the benefit of the doubt when it came to the parts of CRT that I did not comment on (i.e., the parts that are worthy of merit). But that is specifically why I quoted you at the very beginning of my statement, after you said you didn't know anything about CRT. I was trying to loosely educate you (within the realm of what I myself know), while also challenging your rational thought. Like, I'm begging for someone to actually provide a rational response to my post earlier. I want to learn more. So far, the best, most well-written commentary provided after my post was provided by Ben ***** Shapiro. Do you have any idea what that makes me feel like as someone who is routinely called a communist? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, Capco said: So far, the best, most well-written commentary provided after my post was provided by Ben ***** Shapiro. Its okay to agree with Ben on some things and not others. I thought your CRT run down earlier was good. I don't really have anything to add. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Its okay to agree with Ben on some things and not others. I thought your CRT run down earlier was good. I don't really have anything to add. Ben is a smart cookie and I have agreed with him before. But overall, I think he has a gross misconception of reality. However, in this case, unless I can be provided with a rational argument otherwise, I have to agree with him (on most points with regards to CRT). But as you said, the bottom line is: When someone has something rational to say, LISTEN. That doesn't mean take it as ***** GOSPEL. Ben is smart, but he's just one commentator in a world of sound bites. And that's what I'm trying to offer here my friends. Just another bit of commentary with a rational basis. Talk to each other. LISTEN to each other. STOP the ***** Twitter posting. TRUST the acumen of your business/academic/scientific institutions! Like FFS I am trying my best guys. Please. Be civil. Be kind. Love America and every American. I'm so, so tired of this nonsense. I will keep trying... but I can only do so much. I want us all to succeed and we can make that happen as one! That is what America means, does it not? 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Capco said: ... Oh hey look. Another 2 pages of Rah-Rah shouting (I'm too tired to go into specifics rn but I have been watching this thread). ... @Tiberius I tried to give you a quick run-down of what I objectively thought were serious flaws in the structure of Critical Race Theory (CRT) while avoiding a full-flung description of the entire thing (since idk, you seem to be on a major time crunch maybe?). Considering that we are typically on the same side of things, I figured that you would give me the benefit of the doubt when it came to the parts of CRT that I did not comment on (i.e., the parts that are worthy of merit). But that is specifically why I quoted you at the very beginning of my statement, after you said you didn't know anything about CRT. I was trying to loosely educate you (within the realm of what I myself know), while also challenging your rational thought. Like, I'm begging for someone to actually provide a rational response to my post earlier. I want to learn more. So far, the best, most well-written commentary provided after my post was provided by Ben ***** Shapiro. Do you have any idea what that makes me feel like as someone who is routinely called a communist? A "theory" is generally some conclusion that is supported by a set of observable facts and data but falls short of being accepted as fact. And what we do is gather and analyze more information, facts, objective data and observations, and statistics in order to validate or invalidate the theory. As these facts are gathered they support the theory or suggest other causes or other more plausible theories. I just don't see how critical race theory passes any of these objectives tests. It appears to be a subjective interpretation of history created by the authors while bypassing the scientific method of validation and invalidation. For example, concluding the primary reason behind the Revolutionary War was so the colonies could maintain the system of slavery. Its possible this could have been a factor but there is no evidence to support the conclusion it was the primary factor. It is the author's subjective opinion. The evidence and documentation and data of the period suggests the primary driver was the desire for independence from the Britain and the rule of the King. None of the important documents of the time, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and others emphasize the support of slavery at the expense of other objectives and principles. The preponderance of evidence that points to other factors should invalidate the assumption that slavery was the primary cause. But the originators of this theory ignore the data and cling to their narrative. The core of the theory is that "Race" is the primary driver of all social, political, and economic relationships. Whites share a collective persona and blacks share a collective persona and nothing exists outside of these persons. All white people share an inclusive and exclusive list of traits and that all black people share an inclusive and exclusive list of traits. But we can invalidate this conclusion by looking at demographic data in different aggregations such as income or education levels. A wealthy white person has far less in common with a poor white person than they have with a wealthy black person. And a wealthy black person has far less in common with a poor black person than they have with a wealthy white person. I would argue the prevailing factor determining status and person attributes in a "Capitalist" dominant culture has nothing to do with race and everything to do with income. And I can development an alternative view of culture and classifications using income to explain all the negative consequences faced by the poor. Consequence of being poor which are shared by whites and blacks. Privileges of being wealthy shared by whites and blacks. From statistics and simple observations. Observations the authors of CRT ignore. Observations that better explain how culture works in this country. And that's the flaw in CRT. I could go over each and every one of their key conclusions and provide an alternative explanation for every one of them that is much more plausible based on the examination of facts and data available. And invalidate the entire theory. But ideologists don't want to listen to facts or statistics. They just want to believe. At best the authors of CRT suffer from confirmation bias when analyzing facts and data. At worst they are knowingly perpetrating a fraud for some purpose other than "teaching history". What they are teaching is a flawed subjective interpretation of history and culture. And frankly if the objective is to "teach history" we can view events of the past from the perspective of others without CRT. Edited June 24, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 “White rage” is very unattractive to most Americans. https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/republicans-joint-chiefs-chairman-critical-race-theory-congress/2021/06/23/84654c34-d451-11eb-9f29-e9e6c9e843c6_story.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 17 hours ago, BillStime said: Nice to see the level of professionalism and respect as Milley watched Matt Gaetz shake his head in disgust and didn't fire back at him. Thank you for sharing. That was great! He gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 57 minutes ago, Governor said: “White rage” is very unattractive to most Americans. https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/republicans-joint-chiefs-chairman-critical-race-theory-congress/2021/06/23/84654c34-d451-11eb-9f29-e9e6c9e843c6_story.html This POS: Quote After the hearing, Gaetz took a swipe at Milley on Twitter: “With Generals like this it’s no wonder we’ve fought considerably more wars than we’ve won.” Really? Racism makes people stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Governor said: “White rage” is very unattractive to most Americans. https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/republicans-joint-chiefs-chairman-critical-race-theory-congress/2021/06/23/84654c34-d451-11eb-9f29-e9e6c9e843c6_story.html Critical Race Theory isn’t the problem, it’s the people who are afraid of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 59 minutes ago, Tiberius said: This POS: Really? Racism makes people stupid How about you? Have you owned up to your racism yet? Being a white male who lived a privileged life, you need to step up and accept your guilt. You talk a good game, can you walk the walk and accept your responsibility to promoting racism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 30 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said: How about you? Have you owned up to your racism yet? Being a white male who lived a privileged life, you need to step up and accept your guilt. You talk a good game, can you walk the walk and accept your responsibility to promoting racism? No, I’m perfect, no need to own up to anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 What Is Critical Race Theory? Why Don’t We Ask The Creators? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: No, I’m perfect, no need to own up to anything Typical racist liberal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 24, 2021 Author Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Bidens_basement said: Typical racist liberal Typical ignorant pos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 KAROL MARKOWICZ: Kudos to black AND white parents mounting an uprising against race theory. Color-blindness is the traditional American approach. It’s always had the disadvantage that it doesn’t produce sufficient opportunities for graft and grift, while deliberately-fostered racism provides many. https://nypost.com/2021/06/23/kudos-to-black-and-white-parents-mounting-an-uprising-against-race-theory/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Capco said: Ben is a smart cookie and I have agreed with him before. But overall, I think he has a gross misconception of reality. However, in this case, unless I can be provided with a rational argument otherwise, I have to agree with him (on most points with regards to CRT). But as you said, the bottom line is: When someone has something rational to say, LISTEN. That doesn't mean take it as ***** GOSPEL. Ben is smart, but he's just one commentator in a world of sound bites. And that's what I'm trying to offer here my friends. Just another bit of commentary with a rational basis. Talk to each other. LISTEN to each other. STOP the ***** Twitter posting. TRUST the acumen of your business/academic/scientific institutions! Like FFS I am trying my best guys. Please. Be civil. Be kind. Love America and every American. I'm so, so tired of this nonsense. I will keep trying... but I can only do so much. I want us all to succeed and we can make that happen as one! That is what America means, does it not? You make a few nice points here. I’ve listened to Ben as he tends to be what I look for highly intelligent and attempts to build argument with facts. He’s is even more entertaining if you listen to his podcast at 1.5x speed for efficiency. while I disagree with a number of his views. I do like he isn’t R 100% party line, ie, very pro vaccination, liked Yang for NYC. Who would you recommend as a counter podcaster to him, that has opposing view points but argues the liberal perspective in the same 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Roughly 200 People March To Texas School To Protest Critical Race Theory. Judging from the photo, many of them are black. But then, Critical Race Theory is mostly championed by woke Gentry-class white people. https://dailycaller.com/2021/06/23/protesters-march-fort-worth-school-district-critical-race-theory-school-board/ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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