Name a Right Wing Position

[Orlando Tim]

5 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

These republicans boycotting Budweiser is such a losing position. I’m pretty sure Budweiser has done their market research to know the demographics of Gen Z that they want to appeal to. The boycott will please 30% of America but won’t grow your following. And there are fewer of those 30% every year.

you really believe that Gen Z liberals are the ones to resurrect Bud Light? This might be an act of desperation in that they have seen the Bud Light share drop so much that they will try about anything but I think this is a long term loser 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

8 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

you really believe that Gen Z liberals are the ones to resurrect Bud Light? This might be an act of desperation in that they have seen the Bud Light share drop so much that they will try about anything but I think this is a long term loser 

beer is often a bandwagon thing.  Why do you think there are so many dollars spent on advertising.  the best stuff isn't on TV generally.  Doesn't mean it doesn't sell.  Cant believe no one noticed that the article I linked showed that AB actually divested from TLRY and that kids actually prefer gummies as edibles to drinks.  Must have been R's doing their market research.

Edited April 8, 2023 by redtail hawk

[SCBills]

36 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

These republicans boycotting Budweiser is such a losing position. I’m pretty sure Budweiser has done their market research to know the demographics of Gen Z that they want to appeal to. The boycott will please 30% of America but won’t grow your following. And there are fewer of those 30% every year.

1) They don’t care if they lose business, this was done for their ESG score.  Same reason all corporations bow down before this altar. 
 

2) They know this will pass as nobody in this country has any semblance of an attention span. 
 

3) They know most people are stupid.  Rabble rabble boycott Bud Light!! …says the man who buys a case of Anheuser Busch owned Michelob Ultra instead.  
 

(fwiw, they are losing business.  I know a rep who said it’s been a bloodbath this week .. but they likely knew this would happen and baked it in to their plans)

 

Edited April 8, 2023 by SCBills

[Joe Ferguson forever]

12 minutes ago, SCBills said:

1) They don’t care if they lose business, this was done for their ESG score.  Same reason all corporations bow down before this altar. 
 

2) They know this will pass as nobody in this country has any semblance of an attention span. 
 

3) They know most people are stupid.  Rabble rabble boycott Bud Light!! …says the man who buys a case of Anheuser Busch owned Michelob Ultra instead.  

Yup.  It's easy to grift off the stupid. @Irv@Big Blitz are and @BillsFanNC are

perfect marks.  Some of us resist.

Edited April 8, 2023 by redtail hawk

[BillStime]

17 hours ago, SCBills said:

Democrats are mobilizing Gen Z far better than any young Generation we’ve seen.  Typically they’re loud but don’t vote - not so anymore.  Much of that due to the advancement of tech, and the ability of D’s to understand that and pair it with culture.   

 

Wrong.

 

Democrats don't have to spend a dime recruiting GenZ.

 

The GQP is doing all the work for us.

 

You and your "party" couldn't be more detached from reality and the will of the people.

 

Your party has committed suicide.

 

 

 

 

Edited April 8, 2023 by BillStime

[gobills404]

On 4/6/2023 at 7:30 PM, Roundybout said:

Right on cue with the anti-democratic filth. 
 

Protesting is not a crime, and kicking out your political rivals is authoritarian stuff. Not surprising from a state like Tennessee. 

Lmaoooo your party is literally trying to throw it’s political opposition in jail for something that allegedly happened decades ago. Hop off your high horse and sit this one out, squirt.

[ChiGoose]

7 hours ago, Chris farley said:

Um. Chicago and Illinois are moth dealing with a multi year mass exodus of tax payers.  But winning. Amirite 

 

And yet, they still won’t vote Republican because the solutions offered by the GOP are worse. 
 

The Democratic Party is the second worst political institution in this country, but it’s going to benefit greatly from the GOP’s insistence on committing suicide. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

5 hours ago, gobills404 said:

Lmaoooo your party is literally trying to throw it’s political opposition in jail for something that allegedly happened decades ago. Hop off your high horse and sit this one out, squirt.

ahhh, attempted intimidation and implied threats.  right out of the trump handbook.  It's not working anymore dumbass

[Joe Ferguson forever]

8 hours ago, BillStime said:

Democrats don't have to spend a dime on recruiting GenZ

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/fck-you-fascists-protestors-erupt-in-tennessee-statehouse-after-gop-controlled-house-expels-democratic-lawmaker/

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, Chris farley said:

Dems are moving so hard

Um - examples?

 

And do they top forcing 10 year olds to deliver babies?

 

[BillStime]

7 hours ago, gobills404 said:

trying to throw it’s political opposition in jail

BS - Trump did this to himself. 
 

Zero sympathy.
 

The party of Law and Order ran on LOCK HER UP - LOCK HIM UP - and now can’t handle the actual LAW coming down on King Trump. Too fn bad.

 

Is Trump running for office for YOU or to save his own A$$?

 

Get it right - it was NEVER about you then and 100% not about you now.
 

Meanwhile, the party of white supremacy is expelling black democrats from their state legislature over gun violence and changing the rules in another state to target ONE democrat Senator in an upcoming election.

 

Your party is dead.

 

Go take your faux tears to your safe place. 

 

 

 

 

[Roundybout]

8 hours ago, gobills404 said:

Lmaoooo your party is literally trying to throw it’s political opposition in jail for something that allegedly happened decades ago. Hop off your high horse and sit this one out, squirt.

Don’t do crimes. 
 

The GOP is actively trying to get rid of Gen Z right wing voters so it’s only a matter of time until it’s thrown in the dumpster. 

12 hours ago, Orlando Tim said:

You think that my not buying Disney is why the quality has gone down? Woke means that you choose lesser people simply so you can have "representation" of a group. Picking lesser people and choosing to create a lesser product to ensure representation is what causes you to go broke. 

“Lesser people” is an interesting way to put it

[ChiGoose]

Tennessee disenfranchising voters by ousting any elected official who protests children being killed (so long as they are black) reminded me of this from last month:
 

Florida Republican pitches bill to eliminate the Florida Democratic Party

 

In the continued path towards Hungarian style autocracy, the Florida GOP wants to outlaw the opposition. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Tennessee disenfranchising voters by ousting any elected official who protests children being killed (so long as they are black) reminded me of this from last month:
 

Florida Republican pitches bill to eliminate the Florida Democratic Party

 

In the continued path towards Hungarian style autocracy, the Florida GOP wants to outlaw the opposition. 

Just a matter of time. They’ll self destruct. Can’t happen too soon however 

[BillsFanNC]

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And a triggered commie right on cue.

 

[BillStime]

4 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

And a triggered commie right on cue.

 

But but but but but you blocked me bro…

 

Idiots 

[ChiGoose]

44 minutes ago, BillStime said:

But but but but but you blocked me bro…

 

Idiots 

He’s probably the most pathetic person on this board. 
 

Claims to block people who disagree with him because his feelings get hurt but then still quotes them, tags them, and responds to them because he needs the attention. 
 

Just a tremendous loser whose real life must be incredibly sad and pathetic to spend so much time acting like a child online. 

[Roundybout]

This is literally the height of right wing comedy. Making up an opponent and then going “ohhh you’re so owned!!!”

 

Also CatTurd talks about diarrhea quite a bit. Something weird going on there.

[Orlando Tim]

3 hours ago, Roundybout said:

 

“Lesser people” is an interesting way to put it

Do you believe all talent is spread equally through all people?

[Roundybout]

1 minute ago, Orlando Tim said:

Do you believe all talent is spread equally through all people?

Of course, I don’t believe in egalitarianism. 

[Orlando Tim]

1 minute ago, Roundybout said:

Of course, I don’t believe in egalitarianism. 

That is not what I asked- do you believe all individuals have equal talents?

[Roundybout]

56 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

That is not what I asked- do you believe all individuals have equal talents?

What do you mean? Do I think that everyone has the same talents? No. Everyone has different strengths and weaknesses. 
 

Many minorities, with similar strengths as their WASP counterparts, are not considered for the same roles because of race, gender, etc. 

[Orlando Tim]

3 hours ago, Roundybout said:

What do you mean? Do I think that everyone has the same talents? No. Everyone has different strengths and weaknesses. 
 

Many minorities, with similar strengths as their WASP counterparts, are not considered for the same roles because of race, gender, etc. 

So we agree that picking someone for a role primarily for being WASP is inappropriate, then how about picking someone simply because they are not WASP? 

[Andy1]

 

[ComradeKayAdams]

On 4/7/2023 at 6:54 PM, ChiGoose said:

Except the data shows that isn’t happening with millennials. They should already be bending towards conservatism but they aren’t.

 

I would wager that previous generations became more conservative as they accumulated wealth, but with the drastically higher costs of housing, education, and healthcare, millennials haven’t had that experience and have therefore remained liberal at ages when previous generations had become conservative. 

 

Yup…pretty much! The Great Recession was particularly devastating to the early career trajectories of Millennials. Along with the working class, Millennials (and now also Gen Z) have been the biggest victims of late-stage neoliberalism and its collection of supply-side policies that have decimated American socioeconomic mobility over the past four decades. You correctly cited the skyrocketing costs of housing, education, and health care as major reasons for them falling behind economically, relative to previous generations. I’d also add COVID-era inflation on basic goods and services like food, utility costs, and transportation. These obviously hit people just starting out in life (in addition to the working class) disproportionately harder than people with large nest eggs and mature investment portfolios (i.e. the professional/managerial classes plus Gen X’ers/Boomers).

 

Declining religiosity is another notable reason for Millennials bucking the trend of growing more politically conservative with age. Unsurprisingly, the GOP’s dramatic shift toward Christian nationalism is repellent to the under-40 crowd. Since Gen Z’ers are even less religious than Millennials, conservatives badly need to come up with new ways to hold power beyond campaign superspending, voter suppression, and gerrymandering. Historically speaking, religiosity tends to ebb and flow across eras in various cultures. But 21st century America lies in the ages of science and of mass communication, which bring along degrees of irreversible enlightenment.

 

So…speaking of political strategy…in my opinion, the GOP’s best bet for the future would be to cede certain culture war issues that poll below the 35% threshold (example: Roe v. Wade red state trigger laws) and focus exclusively on taxation and political corruption issues. Leaning too stridently into their anti-woke narrative is killing them with far more than the Millennial and Gen Z demographics. In the coming years, there will be a large potential outflux of center-left neoliberals abandoning the Democratic Party as the social democrats continue to rise in power among the party ranks. Republicans would be wise to learn more about this massive voting bloc and try to capture them. They have only won the popular vote in a presidential election ONCE since 1988…that would be 1 for 8…12.5%...sad. With their electoral college pathways to victory dwindling as Boomers die and Gen Z’ers rise, the GOP should be in a race to carve out a favorable political realignment before progressives achieve a mid-century critical mass in electoral popularity.

[L Ron Burgundy]

1 hour ago, ComradeKayAdams said:

 

Yup…pretty much! The Great Recession was particularly devastating to the early career trajectories of Millennials. Along with the working class, Millennials (and now also Gen Z) have been the biggest victims of late-stage neoliberalism and its collection of supply-side policies that have decimated American socioeconomic mobility over the past four decades. You correctly cited the skyrocketing costs of housing, education, and health care as major reasons for them falling behind economically, relative to previous generations. I’d also add COVID-era inflation on basic goods and services like food, utility costs, and transportation. These obviously hit people just starting out in life (in addition to the working class) disproportionately harder than people with large nest eggs and mature investment portfolios (i.e. the professional/managerial classes plus Gen X’ers/Boomers).

 

Declining religiosity is another notable reason for Millennials bucking the trend of growing more politically conservative with age. Unsurprisingly, the GOP’s dramatic shift toward Christian nationalism is repellent to the under-40 crowd. Since Gen Z’ers are even less religious than Millennials, conservatives badly need to come up with new ways to hold power beyond campaign superspending, voter suppression, and gerrymandering. Historically speaking, religiosity tends to ebb and flow across eras in various cultures. But 21st century America lies in the ages of science and of mass communication, which bring along degrees of irreversible enlightenment.

 

So…speaking of political strategy…in my opinion, the GOP’s best bet for the future would be to cede certain culture war issues that poll below the 35% threshold (example: Roe v. Wade red state trigger laws) and focus exclusively on taxation and political corruption issues. Leaning too stridently into their anti-woke narrative is killing them with far more than the Millennial and Gen Z demographics. In the coming years, there will be a large potential outflux of center-left neoliberals abandoning the Democratic Party as the social democrats continue to rise in power among the party ranks. Republicans would be wise to learn more about this massive voting bloc and try to capture them. They have only won the popular vote in a presidential election ONCE since 1988…that would be 1 for 8…12.5%...sad. With their electoral college pathways to victory dwindling as Boomers die and Gen Z’ers rise, the GOP should be in a race to carve out a favorable political realignment before progressives achieve a mid-century critical mass in electoral popularity.

Kayyy!   Please post more.  Love your input.  When the boomers die there'll only be like 6 people left here.

[Tommy Callahan]

18 hours ago, ComradeKayAdams said:

 

Yup…pretty much! The Great Recession was particularly devastating to the early career trajectories of Millennials. Along with the working class, Millennials (and now also Gen Z) have been the biggest victims of late-stage neoliberalism and its collection of supply-side policies that have decimated American socioeconomic mobility over the past four decades. You correctly cited the skyrocketing costs of housing, education, and health care as major reasons for them falling behind economically, relative to previous generations. I’d also add COVID-era inflation on basic goods and services like food, utility costs, and transportation. These obviously hit people just starting out in life (in addition to the working class) disproportionately harder than people with large nest eggs and mature investment portfolios (i.e. the professional/managerial classes plus Gen X’ers/Boomers).

 

Declining religiosity is another notable reason for Millennials bucking the trend of growing more politically conservative with age. Unsurprisingly, the GOP’s dramatic shift toward Christian nationalism is repellent to the under-40 crowd. Since Gen Z’ers are even less religious than Millennials, conservatives badly need to come up with new ways to hold power beyond campaign superspending, voter suppression, and gerrymandering. Historically speaking, religiosity tends to ebb and flow across eras in various cultures. But 21st century America lies in the ages of science and of mass communication, which bring along degrees of irreversible enlightenment.

 

So…speaking of political strategy…in my opinion, the GOP’s best bet for the future would be to cede certain culture war issues that poll below the 35% threshold (example: Roe v. Wade red state trigger laws) and focus exclusively on taxation and political corruption issues. Leaning too stridently into their anti-woke narrative is killing them with far more than the Millennial and Gen Z demographics. In the coming years, there will be a large potential outflux of center-left neoliberals abandoning the Democratic Party as the social democrats continue to rise in power among the party ranks. Republicans would be wise to learn more about this massive voting bloc and try to capture them. They have only won the popular vote in a presidential election ONCE since 1988…that would be 1 for 8…12.5%...sad. With their electoral college pathways to victory dwindling as Boomers die and Gen Z’ers rise, the GOP should be in a race to carve out a favorable political realignment before progressives achieve a mid-century critical mass in electoral popularity.

you had it at the first part. as those groups have this cancer running through them. where they see victimhood as the commodity.  And if they aint a victim, they have to get the cred by being a white night/SJW for the disenfranchised.

 

The right clinging to abortion bans is as moronic as the left moving from LGBT (has support) to LGBT and children in schools.  that also polls very low.

 

And probably why both wedge topics are dominated by Highly funded pacs that then fund and rank politicians.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ComradeKayAdams]

On 4/9/2023 at 4:23 PM, L Ron Burgundy said:

Kayyy!   Please post more.  Love your input.  When the boomers die there'll only be like 6 people left here.

 

Hi, L Ron! Yes, PPP is totally infested with male right-wing Boomers. It’s like a nursing home clique, with Fox News blaring in the background. It can feel quite lonely here if you have neither age-related cognitive decline nor an enlarged prostate with which to relate.

 

I don’t post much here anymore because the topics are too boring and many of the posters have truly despicable viewpoints. Commies and trannies, trannies and commies, commies conspiring with trannies at the behest of those (((dirty rapacious Jews)))…eeek!!! It’s all anyone at PPP discusses nowadays. Plus it’s hard having civil and productive conversations with posters whom you know are okay with states forcing rape victims to give birth to the child of their rapists….among all the other nonsensical and deeply immoral repercussions of Dobbs v. Jackson…

 

Having said all that, I’ll reconsider posting more as we move closer to the start of the Bills’ season. At the moment, I split my time between here and BillsFans.com (come join!), lurking and reading about draft prospects, following the Sabres and Bandits, celebrating every day like it’s Dyngus Day…as is the way of Commie Kay, her predilections she shall NEVER betray.

 

23 hours ago, Chris farley said:

you had it at the first part. as those groups have this cancer running through them. where they see victimhood as the commodity.  And if they aint a victim, they have to get the cred by being a white night/SJW for the disenfranchised.

 

The right clinging to abortion bans is as moronic as the left moving from LGBT (has support) to LGBT and children in schools.  that also polls very low.

 

And probably why both wedge topics are dominated by Highly funded pacs that then fund and rank politicians.

 

1. Your first paragraph: You are welcome to deny the existence of victims (working class, under-40 people) due to perpetrators (corporate oligarchs, corrupt politicians) working within broken institutions (America’s particular version of capitalism since Reagan, America’s two-party political system). However, keep in mind that in fields like macroeconomics and sociology, the presence of exceptions to rules (i.e., anecdotal stories of people pulling themselves up by their figurative bootstraps) don’t discount statistical aggregate rules.

 

There is a notoriously strong inverse relationship between wealth disparity and socioeconomic mobility. If you want to make a correlation without causation argument here, then you are being willfully ignorant of all sorts of economic phenomena like Boomer wealth distortions to the housing market, reduced consumer spending trends based on student loan debt levels, and American medical debt/bankruptcy data in poorer red states.

 

Furthermore, American worker productivity has gone up during these past four decades while wage growth (relative to inflation) has stagnated. So can we talk about the VICTIMS of labor exploitation here?? Why is Jeff Bezos, to use an infamous example, worth more than the GDP of two-thirds of the world’s countries while many of his full-time warehouse workers still qualify for food stamps?

 

2. Your second paragraph: You provided no context for your assertion that LGBT in schools poll poorly. How were the polling questions worded? What was the nature of the scenarios presented?

 

In the absence of these details, I can personally say that I do support very basic and very brief education of LGBT in public primary schools. What I mean by that is simply the acknowledgment of their existence in this world and the fact that their minority status in no way justifies hatred and discrimination directed at them.

 

Secondary school is the more appropriate time to present the science behind sexual orientation as well as gender identity (see: oldmanfan’s excellent post in page 3 of the “Transurrection” thread; also: DrW’s excellent post in page 5 of that same thread).

 

3. Your third paragraph: You correctly labeled the major culture war topics as political wedge issues. Hopefully you also understand the motives and the masterminds behind them? Simply put, they are tools that corporate oligarchs use to distract the victims of neoliberalism. They keep the populist left and the populist right from uniting against the corporate oligarchs.

 

The Silicon Valley Bank (SVB) bailout is a good recent example of what I mean. Instead of attacking the absence of common-sense bank regulations, right-wing media immediately jumped to DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) programs and left-wing media immediately responded with accusations of bigotry…for a long enough period of time until some other topic replaced SVB in the news cycle.

 

My solution to wedge issues? Well, I certainly think campaign finance reform and ranked choice voting would help mitigate their impact.

[Tommy Callahan]

15 minutes ago, ComradeKayAdams said:

 

Hi, L Ron! Yes, PPP is totally infested with male right-wing Boomers. It’s like a nursing home clique, with Fox News blaring in the background. It can feel quite lonely here if you have neither age-related cognitive decline nor an enlarged prostate with which to relate.

 

I don’t post much here anymore because the topics are too boring and many of the posters have truly despicable viewpoints. Commies and trannies, trannies and commies, commies conspiring with trannies at the behest of those (((dirty rapacious Jews)))…eeek!!! It’s all anyone at PPP discusses nowadays. Plus it’s hard having civil and productive conversations with posters whom you know are okay with states forcing rape victims to give birth to the child of their rapists….among all the other nonsensical and deeply immoral repercussions of Dobbs v. Jackson…

 

Having said all that, I’ll reconsider posting more as we move closer to the start of the Bills’ season. At the moment, I split my time between here and BillsFans.com (come join!), lurking and reading about draft prospects, following the Sabres and Bandits, celebrating every day like it’s Dyngus Day…as is the way of Commie Kay, her predilections she shall NEVER betray.

 

 

1. Your first paragraph: You are welcome to deny the existence of victims (working class, under-40 people) due to perpetrators (corporate oligarchs, corrupt politicians) working within broken institutions (America’s particular version of capitalism since Reagan, America’s two-party political system). However, keep in mind that in fields like macroeconomics and sociology, the presence of exceptions to rules (i.e., anecdotal stories of people pulling themselves up by their figurative bootstraps) don’t discount statistical aggregate rules.

 

There is a notoriously strong inverse relationship between wealth disparity and socioeconomic mobility. If you want to make a correlation without causation argument here, then you are being willfully ignorant of all sorts of economic phenomena like Boomer wealth distortions to the housing market, reduced consumer spending trends based on student loan debt levels, and American medical debt/bankruptcy data in poorer red states.

 

Furthermore, American worker productivity has gone up during these past four decades while wage growth (relative to inflation) has stagnated. So can we talk about the VICTIMS of labor exploitation here?? Why is Jeff Bezos, to use an infamous example, worth more than the GDP of two-thirds of the world’s countries while many of his full-time warehouse workers still qualify for food stamps?

 

2. Your second paragraph: You provided no context for your assertion that LGBT in schools poll poorly. How were the polling questions worded? What was the nature of the scenarios presented?

 

In the absence of these details, I can personally say that I do support very basic and very brief education of LGBT in public primary schools. What I mean by that is simply the acknowledgment of their existence in this world and the fact that their minority status in no way justifies hatred and discrimination directed at them.

 

Secondary school is the more appropriate time to present the science behind sexual orientation as well as gender identity (see: oldmanfan’s excellent post in page 3 of the “Transurrection” thread; also: DrW’s excellent post in page 5 of that same thread).

 

3. Your third paragraph: You correctly labeled the major culture war topics as political wedge issues. Hopefully you also understand the motives and the masterminds behind them? Simply put, they are tools that corporate oligarchs use to distract the victims of neoliberalism. They keep the populist left and the populist right from uniting against the corporate oligarchs.

 

The Silicon Valley Bank (SVB) bailout is a good recent example of what I mean. Instead of attacking the absence of common-sense bank regulations, right-wing media immediately jumped to DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) programs and left-wing media immediately responded with accusations of bigotry…for a long enough period of time until some other topic replaced SVB in the news cycle.

 

My solution to wedge issues? Well, I certainly think campaign finance reform and ranked choice voting would help mitigate their impact.

Are you the victim or the white night that identifies the victims and tries to save them?  

 

"There is a notoriously strong inverse relationship between wealth disparity and socioeconomic mobility" there is truth to that.  and people don't need bootstraps at that point, just basic work ethic and taking advantage of all the programs people in those conditions have at their fingertips.  

 

The third part has a lot of merit to it.  Crazy part is they just outright bought the last election.  and keep funding wedge topics like the one you discussed about LGBT and children.  why would the ones winning with that game, pass finance reform?  and that wouldn't do anything for these pacs that rank politicians by loyalty to the PAC.  Or the ones into ballot harvesting or funding lawyers to push controversial legislation all over the place.

I dont see how those people are going to push a law to end the system that got them power.  

 

the third part is spot on.  

 

[BillStime]

And the MAGA cult will look the other way like they always do... 

 

 

[L Ron Burgundy]

9 hours ago, ComradeKayAdams said:

 

Hi, L Ron! Yes, PPP is totally infested with male right-wing Boomers. It’s like a nursing home clique, with Fox News blaring in the background. It can feel quite lonely here if you have neither age-related cognitive decline nor an enlarged prostate with which to relate.

 

I don’t post much here anymore because the topics are too boring and many of the posters have truly despicable viewpoints. Commies and trannies, trannies and commies, commies conspiring with trannies at the behest of those (((dirty rapacious Jews)))…eeek!!! It’s all anyone at PPP discusses nowadays. Plus it’s hard having civil and productive conversations with posters whom you know are okay with states forcing rape victims to give birth to the child of their rapists….among all the other nonsensical and deeply immoral repercussions of Dobbs v. Jackson…

 

Having said all that, I’ll reconsider posting more as we move closer to the start of the Bills’ season. At the moment, I split my time between here and BillsFans.com (come join!), lurking and reading about draft prospects, following the Sabres and Bandits, celebrating every day like it’s Dyngus Day…as is the way of Commie Kay, her predilections she shall NEVER betray.

 

 

1. Your first paragraph: You are welcome to deny the existence of victims (working class, under-40 people) due to perpetrators (corporate oligarchs, corrupt politicians) working within broken institutions (America’s particular version of capitalism since Reagan, America’s two-party political system). However, keep in mind that in fields like macroeconomics and sociology, the presence of exceptions to rules (i.e., anecdotal stories of people pulling themselves up by their figurative bootstraps) don’t discount statistical aggregate rules.

 

There is a notoriously strong inverse relationship between wealth disparity and socioeconomic mobility. If you want to make a correlation without causation argument here, then you are being willfully ignorant of all sorts of economic phenomena like Boomer wealth distortions to the housing market, reduced consumer spending trends based on student loan debt levels, and American medical debt/bankruptcy data in poorer red states.

 

Furthermore, American worker productivity has gone up during these past four decades while wage growth (relative to inflation) has stagnated. So can we talk about the VICTIMS of labor exploitation here?? Why is Jeff Bezos, to use an infamous example, worth more than the GDP of two-thirds of the world’s countries while many of his full-time warehouse workers still qualify for food stamps?

 

2. Your second paragraph: You provided no context for your assertion that LGBT in schools poll poorly. How were the polling questions worded? What was the nature of the scenarios presented?

 

In the absence of these details, I can personally say that I do support very basic and very brief education of LGBT in public primary schools. What I mean by that is simply the acknowledgment of their existence in this world and the fact that their minority status in no way justifies hatred and discrimination directed at them.

 

Secondary school is the more appropriate time to present the science behind sexual orientation as well as gender identity (see: oldmanfan’s excellent post in page 3 of the “Transurrection” thread; also: DrW’s excellent post in page 5 of that same thread).

 

3. Your third paragraph: You correctly labeled the major culture war topics as political wedge issues. Hopefully you also understand the motives and the masterminds behind them? Simply put, they are tools that corporate oligarchs use to distract the victims of neoliberalism. They keep the populist left and the populist right from uniting against the corporate oligarchs.

 

The Silicon Valley Bank (SVB) bailout is a good recent example of what I mean. Instead of attacking the absence of common-sense bank regulations, right-wing media immediately jumped to DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) programs and left-wing media immediately responded with accusations of bigotry…for a long enough period of time until some other topic replaced SVB in the news cycle.

 

My solution to wedge issues? Well, I certainly think campaign finance reform and ranked choice voting would help mitigate their impact.

We could use your voice more than ever.  Maybe if a few Boomers go bye-bye (like if the staff at their nursing home banned them from the internet) this place will improve. 

 

Also, it's good to be reminded sometimes what these quacks believe.   

[reddogblitz]

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Ageism

[Joe Ferguson forever]

17 hours ago, ComradeKayAdams said:

 

Hi, L Ron! Yes, PPP is totally infested with male right-wing Boomers. It’s like a nursing home clique, with Fox News blaring in the background. It can feel quite lonely here if you have neither age-related cognitive decline nor an enlarged prostate with which to relate.

 

I don’t post much here anymore because the topics are too boring and many of the posters have truly despicable viewpoints. Commies and trannies, trannies and commies, commies conspiring with trannies at the behest of those (((dirty rapacious Jews)))…eeek!!! It’s all anyone at PPP discusses nowadays. Plus it’s hard having civil and productive conversations with posters whom you know are okay with states forcing rape victims to give birth to the child of their rapists….among all the other nonsensical and deeply immoral repercussions of Dobbs v. Jackson…

 

Having said all that, I’ll reconsider posting more as we move closer to the start of the Bills’ season. At the moment, I split my time between here and BillsFans.com (come join!), lurking and reading about draft prospects, following the Sabres and Bandits, celebrating every day like it’s Dyngus Day…as is the way of Commie Kay, her predilections she shall NEVER betray.

 

 

1. Your first paragraph: You are welcome to deny the existence of victims (working class, under-40 people) due to perpetrators (corporate oligarchs, corrupt politicians) working within broken institutions (America’s particular version of capitalism since Reagan, America’s two-party political system). However, keep in mind that in fields like macroeconomics and sociology, the presence of exceptions to rules (i.e., anecdotal stories of people pulling themselves up by their figurative bootstraps) don’t discount statistical aggregate rules.

 

There is a notoriously strong inverse relationship between wealth disparity and socioeconomic mobility. If you want to make a correlation without causation argument here, then you are being willfully ignorant of all sorts of economic phenomena like Boomer wealth distortions to the housing market, reduced consumer spending trends based on student loan debt levels, and American medical debt/bankruptcy data in poorer red states.

 

Furthermore, American worker productivity has gone up during these past four decades while wage growth (relative to inflation) has stagnated. So can we talk about the VICTIMS of labor exploitation here?? Why is Jeff Bezos, to use an infamous example, worth more than the GDP of two-thirds of the world’s countries while many of his full-time warehouse workers still qualify for food stamps?

 

2. Your second paragraph: You provided no context for your assertion that LGBT in schools poll poorly. How were the polling questions worded? What was the nature of the scenarios presented?

 

In the absence of these details, I can personally say that I do support very basic and very brief education of LGBT in public primary schools. What I mean by that is simply the acknowledgment of their existence in this world and the fact that their minority status in no way justifies hatred and discrimination directed at them.

 

Secondary school is the more appropriate time to present the science behind sexual orientation as well as gender identity (see: oldmanfan’s excellent post in page 3 of the “Transurrection” thread; also: DrW’s excellent post in page 5 of that same thread).

 

3. Your third paragraph: You correctly labeled the major culture war topics as political wedge issues. Hopefully you also understand the motives and the masterminds behind them? Simply put, they are tools that corporate oligarchs use to distract the victims of neoliberalism. They keep the populist left and the populist right from uniting against the corporate oligarchs.

 

The Silicon Valley Bank (SVB) bailout is a good recent example of what I mean. Instead of attacking the absence of common-sense bank regulations, right-wing media immediately jumped to DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) programs and left-wing media immediately responded with accusations of bigotry…for a long enough period of time until some other topic replaced SVB in the news cycle.

 

My solution to wedge issues? Well, I certainly think campaign finance reform and ranked choice voting would help mitigate their impact.

Heard a social scientist say today that as of 1980, a baby being born had a 50/50 chance of attaining a better lifestyle than his/her parents.  In 1945, it was around 90%.  This was not renewable due in part to our rising standard of living.  Seems about right and who knows where it went from 1980.  Likely in the wrong direction.  He also mentioned that the biggest myth going re economic mobility is that education doesn't matter.  In fact, education remains the greatest determinant of future wealth and is becoming ever more important in this tech driven world.  Peter Thiel, F U.

 

The question is how to make things better for everyone and avoid civil war and violent conflicts.  We can start by exposing crooked, self absorbed populists.   But you can't fix stupid.  You're clearly from another generation than me.  I agree that corporate oligarchs are a major threat.  Have witnessed it in medicine.

 

My solution is sadly to play the populist game better than the fascists.  35% of the American population are/is  DUMB.  Get to them somehow.  It seems younger Americans are generally more thoughtful and analytical...agree or disagree?

Edited April 12, 2023 by redtail hawk

[ChiGoose]

39 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

The question is how to make things better for everyone and avoid civil war and violent conflicts. 

 

The first step to ever hoping to attain this goal is getting rid of First Past the Post (FPTP) voting. It always creates a two party system that devolves into "us vs. them" where anyone on the other side is your enemy. Government is supposed to be about compromise, but FPTP brings the zero-sum nature of elections into governance itself.

 

Over a decade ago, I saw this video about FPTP electoral systems and it really opened my eyes to the cause of problems that have only gotten worse since.

 

Until we have an electoral system that ensures the winner gets a majority of votes (instead of a plurality), more than two candidates can run without the spoiler effect, there is no need for strategic voting, elected officials can be held accountable by the voters, and there are incentives for cooperation, we are not going to get past our current polarization.

 

Bernie Sanders and AOC should not be in the same party as Joe Manchin and Joe Biden, just as Mitt Romney should not be in the same party as MTG. They only are because there is no other option for them thanks to how our elections work. Replacing FPTP with something better like IRV or Approval voting or something else can create incentives for cooperation while better aligning politicians to the will of the people instead of corporate or self-serving interests.

 

There is a playlist of relevant videos you can watch here.

[L Ron Burgundy]

4 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

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Ageism

Can you cry for me?

 

I both love and hate that the average age of the typical conservative poster here is so high.  While it makes almost all your takes boring and rote, it means the future has hope.  Hope to rid the country of the incessant conspiracy driven fear that owns your political views.

 

Kay's comment above about this place is spot on.  Ya'll are crying commie or tranny without end.  You all constantly defend the indefensible because they're on your side....it's sad but hey, your all old.  If the young agreed with you loonies then I might be a scared little Nancy like you guys.  

 

[ChiGoose]

Sen. Mike Moon reiterates support for 12-year-old's right to marry in Missouri

 

“A southwest Missouri Republican from Ash Grove, Moon's support of child marriage in some instances has been long documented. In 2018 Missouri passed a law raising the marriage age in the state from 15 to 16 and requiring parental permission for older teenagers to marry. Moon opposed the bill at the time — citing the same anecdote of a couple he met in college who had married one another at age 12.”

[Wacka]

22 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

We could use your voice more than ever.  Maybe if a few Boomers go bye-bye (like if the staff at their nursing home banned them from the internet) this place will improve. 

 

Also, it's good to be reminded sometimes what these quacks believe.   

Ageism and is that a threat?

[L Ron Burgundy]

2 hours ago, Wacka said:

Ageism and is that a threat?

Try reading my post again with your glasses on.

 

Besides my problem isn't with all elderly.   It's with conspiracy mongering old farts who are filled only with spite and negativity.  You should inspire not try your best rile others up with insanity.  Weren't you the one who was trying to say the war in Ukraine was fake?  I mean, if I'm recalling that right, then you are mentally ill. 

 

Maybe I am right with what ive said 100x before.  Maybe covid really broke you.  More than likely you were a grumpy old man before that.  You probably don't even realize it.  That's sad.