Virgil Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) Please help us select who the Bills will take at #30 overall for our TSW Mock Draft. Trades were not an option in this draft. If you have any players you see missing from the poll that scream either BPA or position of need, please reply Edited March 29, 2021 by Virgil 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Did you intentionally leave JOK off? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) Haha you omitted JOK Edited March 28, 2021 by No_Matter_What 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) 1. Basham 2. Owusu-Koramoah 3. Najee Harris Edited March 28, 2021 by Victory Formation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I'm writing in Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah. I think McDermott would love a chess piece like him and he would give us a legit option to cover TEs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Its great to see no QBs on that list! I went with Oweh from PSU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Leaving JOK off was a good move imo. Can’t see any way that he will be available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I'm writing in Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah. I think McDermott would love a chess piece like him and he would give us a legit option to cover TEs. I second this motion. JOK is my pick. If I must choose from the list above, I'll say Jaelan Phillips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I'm also writing in JOK. If it is not JOK I'd vote Tyson Campbell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 It’s Phillips and it’s not close. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Did you intentionally leave JOK off? Not intentionally, but my brain probably subconsciously didn't see him as I typically don't like NFL prospects from the fraud program that is Notre Dame. He's been added 1 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Oweh is a physical freak, which McBeane seems to like...but drafting a pass rush specialist who had zero sacks this year scares me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, NewEra said: Leaving JOK off was a good move imo. Can’t see any way that he will be available Yeah most mocks I see him going well before we pick. The furthest I could see him dropping is to the Browns at #26. The one possibility I could see is if teams don't want to bet a 1st round pick on a positionless player. Not every defense uses a big nickel. That could cause him to drop to us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 No garbage from Penn State please. I picked Etienne just to piss Badol off. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, glazeduck said: It’s Phillips and it’s not close. I think Phillips won't even be on our board. He already retired from football once and has an extensive injury history. That's not a McDermott player. He could fall to our pick in the 2nd and we'd still pass on him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 Just now, HappyDays said: Yeah most mocks I see him going well before we pick. The furthest I could see him dropping is to the Browns at #26. The one possibility I could see is if teams don't want to bet a 1st round pick on a positionless player. Not every defense uses a big nickel. That could cause him to drop to us. I honestly think many teams are nervous about players from there. I say it jokingly, but that program masks their talent each year with their NCAA scheduling skirting. When it comes to the big games, they get destroyed. They are fools gold. Some players end up doing okay, but who was the last solid big name talent that really translated. (I know I'm going to regret saying this as I went off pure memory and didn't do any research) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Yeah most mocks I see him going well before we pick. The furthest I could see him dropping is to the Browns at #26. The one possibility I could see is if teams don't want to bet a 1st round pick on a positionless player. Not every defense uses a big nickel. That could cause him to drop to us. That was the Isaiah Simmons argument last year. JOK isn't quite Simmons but I think the NFL is getting much better at saying "this guy is just a great football player, we'll figure the rest out later." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) If we take JOK, it’ll be like taking Tyler Shelvin in the 6th rd in a mock sim. Sure, he’s there in the sim, but in reality, it’s not a sim and should be fixed. I really don’t think there’s any chance of JOK being there when we pick irl. Chazz Surratt was taken ahead of him for crying out loud. Possible? 🤣 I suppose, but not really. If he’s there IRL, then he should be the pick.....but he won’t be Edited March 28, 2021 by NewEra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, fergie's ire said: Oweh is a physical freak, which McBeane seems to like...but drafting a pass rush specialist who had zero sacks this year scares me. Maybin 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Just now, Virgil said: Some players end up doing okay, but who was the last solid big name talent that really translated. (I know I'm going to regret saying this as I went off pure memory and didn't do any research) The best young LT in the NFL and the best Guard in the NFL, period. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I went with Phillips. I want someone who can disrupt games by getting to the QB. Addison and Hughes are getting long in the tooth and aren't the pass rushers they used to be. They both could hit the wall any day and inserting Phillips to go with Epenesa could be the way to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: The best young LT in the NFL and the best Guard in the NFL, period. Offensive lineman don’t count. You might as well have included a punter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 So our first pick will be a guy that will be drafted top 20. 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Virgil said: Offensive lineman don’t count. You might as well have included a punter Okay. Chase Claypool had a nice enough rookie year..... EDIT: And didn't Zack Martin go there too? So that is the TWO best guards in the entire league...... and Ronnie Stanley... I mean they are pretty much OLine U. Edited March 28, 2021 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Picked JOK who became one of my favorite ND players of all time. Has been a joy to watch him play every Saturday for the past couple years. He has rare ability, watching him cover/run with Amari Rogers in the slot was unreal. If he's gone (which I expect him to be), I think the value pick is likely CB, but I'd be extremely tempted by either Toney or Etienne. A huge injection of speed/youth/YAC ability for our offense with either player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Okay. Chase Claypool had a nice enough rookie year..... EDIT: And didn't Zack Martin go there too? So that is the TWO best guards in the entire league...... and Ronnie Stanley... I mean they are pretty much OLine U. I’ll give you Claypool. I completely forgot about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Virgil said: I’ll give you Claypool. I completely forgot about him. Harrison Smith was with them too, right? He has been a top 5 safety in the NFL for a decade. Who are the big Notre Dame busts in the last decade? Teo comes to mind but who else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 Just now, GunnerBill said: Harrison Smith was with them too, right? He has been a top 5 safety in the NFL for a decade. Who are the big Notre Dame busts in the last decade? Teo comes to mind but who else? I feel like that’s all I need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Harrison Smith was with them too, right? He has been a top 5 safety in the NFL for a decade. Who are the big Notre Dame busts in the last decade? Teo comes to mind but who else? Teo definitely. I'd say Michael Floyd and Jimmy Clausen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Just now, Virgil said: I feel like that’s all I need. I just thought of another - Deshone Kizer. But generally I think they have been pretty solid producers of NFL talent. Will Fuller, Tyler Eifert, Stephon Tuitt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 17 minutes ago, NewEra said: So our first pick will be a guy that will be drafted top 20. 😞 Honestly, I don’t think it’s too crazy. Someone’s going to drop, it could easily be him. Look at the Raiders the past few years, they love taking people too soon. They could also take a RB. I think people have done a decent job so far in this mock. Just now, H2o said: Teo definitely. I'd say Michael Floyd and Jimmy Clausen. I completely forgot about Clausen. That one hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Just now, H2o said: Teo definitely. I'd say Michael Floyd and Jimmy Clausen. Clausen is eons ago... Floyd, yep... although he did have a couple of nice years in Arizona early on, but agree did not meet expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailgateChef Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 JOK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Virgil said: Honestly, I don’t think it’s too crazy. Someone’s going to drop, it could easily be him. Look at the Raiders the past few years, they love taking people too soon. They could also take a RB. I think people have done a decent job so far in this mock. I completely forgot about Clausen. That one hurt Yeah I hear ya, there are curve balls every year and a player like JOK could slip I suppose. I just think it mucks up our realistic possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I think Phillips won't even be on our board. He already retired from football once and has an extensive injury history. That's not a McDermott player. He could fall to our pick in the 2nd and we'd still pass on him. I've heard that he loves his music more than football. Good player but I don't think he is the type to bond with Buffalo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Clausen is eons ago... Floyd, yep... although he did have a couple of nice years in Arizona early on, but agree did not meet expectations. Clausen was 2010, a shade over a decade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 Just now, NewEra said: Yeah I hear ya, there are curve balls every year and a player like JOK could slip I suppose. I just think it mucks up our realistic possibilities. Good thing we are doing 3 of these. I hear you though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 20 minutes ago, NewEra said: So our first pick will be a guy that will be drafted top 20. 😞 I am not arguing but you cannot be sure. Brandt has him 45th. I've seen other mocks going him 26th to Cleveland. It is not impossible. Anyway, even if this was unrealistic, this poll gives us some idea where TBD stands in terms of Phillips/Etienne/Harris/Campbell/Toney preferences... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyNoodles Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I can’t see in interest in JOK. We already have an undersized LB. I don’t see him in round one at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 Just now, JimmyNoodles said: I can’t see in interest in JOK. We already have an undersized LB. I don’t see him in round one at all. People see him as a LB/S hybrid who can cover a TE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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