Unforgiven Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 (edited) like this for instance.... https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/03/george-floyd-derek-chauvin-trial-minneapolis-shooting.html The Tension Inside George Floyd Square Is Unbearable Right Now In the days before Derek Chauvin’s trial began, I went back to the intersection where Floyd was killed. I watched another horrific scene unfold. snip When the gunshots rang out, people at the barbecue acted out of muscle memory. Violent crime has gone up since the intersection closed. In 2019, there was a total of three fatal and nonfatal shootings in the area. In 2020, there were 19. One person I spoke to told me that sometimes, people simply shoot guns in the air, not at anything in particular. snip A Man Was Killed Saturday Inside The Police No-Go Zone Known As George Floyd Square https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2021/03/09/man-killed-saturday-inside-police-no-go-zone-known-george-floyd-square/ But yeah, damned white supremacists and they guns. More truth to be ignored by leftists. Edited March 9, 2021 by Unforgiven 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Yes! Like on January 6, where Trump’s supporters tried to overturn our election. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 17 hours ago, Unforgiven said: But yeah, damned white supremacists and they guns. Here we have an OP removing the white hood for all to see - Nothing like a sarcastic post to defend white supremacy. Gross 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 The biggest thing everyone should be worried about is that scumbag cops lawyer using the toxicology report findings and the fact the training manual allows the kneel hold to get him off. Nothing that happened justified kneeling on an unconscious unarmed mans neck. nothing. And that dirty cop was repeatedly cited for police brutality. But if the lethal quantity of PCP, the meth, covid positive and underlying heart disease portion of the report or the fact asphyxiation wasn’t official cod, but cardiac arrest sows a shred of doubt into the jury, and they don’t convict, Minneapolis is going to burn to the ground, and probably 10 or 15 other cities. I almost think for the good of humanity DP should be on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 There is no more violent urban crime in the U.S.A. It ceased to exist 1/20/21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 20 hours ago, Unforgiven said: like this for instance.... https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/03/george-floyd-derek-chauvin-trial-minneapolis-shooting.html The Tension Inside George Floyd Square Is Unbearable Right Now In the days before Derek Chauvin’s trial began, I went back to the intersection where Floyd was killed. I watched another horrific scene unfold. Can you blame them after watching the Left, attack others and burn buildings all summer long, with no real response 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Can you blame them after watching the Left, attack others and burn buildings all summer long, with no real response Or the alt-right. This is a no win situation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 17 hours ago, B-Man said: Can you blame them after watching the Left, attack others and burn buildings all summer long, with no real response Jury tampering is a serious offense so anyone reckless enough to attempt to coerce and intimidate jurors to render a verdict not established from the evidence presented and their assessment of that evidence is eligible to do some hard time if changed and convicted. Given the high profile of this case i expect the legal system will have no patience with anything that could throw off due process. The other concern is these idiots could give defense counsel a justification to express the position that a "fair" trial in Minneapolis is impossible and push for a change of venue. Its doubtful a judge would rule in favor but wait for that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) On 3/10/2021 at 10:42 AM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: The biggest thing everyone should be worried about is that scumbag cops lawyer using the toxicology report findings and the fact the training manual allows the kneel hold to get him off. Nothing that happened justified kneeling on an unconscious unarmed mans neck. nothing. And that dirty cop was repeatedly cited for police brutality. But if the lethal quantity of PCP, the meth, covid positive and underlying heart disease portion of the report or the fact asphyxiation wasn’t official cod, but cardiac arrest sows a shred of doubt into the jury, and they don’t convict, Minneapolis is going to burn to the ground, and probably 10 or 15 other cities. I almost think for the good of humanity DP should be on the table. The lawyer is just doing his job. But there's still a good chance he'll be charged with murder. Chauvin didn't get off his neck even after Floyd was found to be pulseless. There is no excuse/defense for that. Edited March 11, 2021 by Doc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I totally agree that the cop should be held accountable for his actions and his history should be used to establish the type of cop/person he was while determining his fate in this case . That being said that doesn't make all cops bad cops yes they should be held to a higher standard than the people they serve which as people them selves can be hard i would imagine given the pressures of life in general today . But with all that in mind i can't imagine that every time they are called they don't know what could happen and their life is potentially on the line every time they are called to any situation. I was recently pulled over for a head light I kept my hands on the wheel at all times & I went to reach into my pocket for my license & told the cop before what i was doing because i didn't want or need any reactions to my actions . The pictures surrounding the Floyd case that has been painted in most all media that i have seen is that Floyd was a innocent victim of police brutality and there is a lot more facts to the story which is all on video if I remember correctly which i have not seen ! This is a tragedy first and fore most in that a persons life has been lost & those that love him are left to suffer this loss for not only the cops actions but Floyds actions too. This is absolutely a no win situation for all involved !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 hours ago, T master said: This is a tragedy first and fore most in that a persons life has been lost & those that love him are left to suffer this loss for not only the cops actions but Floyds actions too. Floyd had a lethal level of fentanyl in him before he even interacted with the cops. He was walking dead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 YES!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Wacka said: Floyd had a lethal level of fentanyl in him before he even interacted with the cops. He was walking dead. So you're saying the police should have given him narcan instead of kneeling on his neck ? "During this attempt, at 20:19, Mr Chauvin pulled Mr Floyd away from the passenger side, causing him to fall to the ground, the report said. He lay there, face down, still in handcuffs. That's when witnesses started to film Mr Floyd, who appeared to be in a distressed state." Edited March 11, 2021 by ALF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, BillStime said: YES!!! So i take it your for getting rid of our second amendment rights ?? Just asking to clarify . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, T master said: So i take it your for getting rid of our second amendment rights ?? Just asking to clarify . Just as quickly as you are taking away our voting rights. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 37 minutes ago, T master said: So i take it your for getting rid of our second amendment rights ?? Just asking to clarify . Background checks are taking away your rights? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Tiberius said: Background checks are taking away your rights? Yes. Remember asking for identification is a violation of your rights and oppression. I’ll hang up and listen. Edited March 12, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 14 hours ago, Wacka said: Floyd had a lethal level of fentanyl in him before he even interacted with the cops. He was walking dead. Then why don't you let a member here kneel on your neck for 10 minutes to prove that it's no big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 19 hours ago, Wacka said: Floyd had a lethal level of fentanyl in him before he even interacted with the cops. He was walking dead. This is an extremely disturbing post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 19 hours ago, BillStime said: YES!!! I'm sure all the street gangs and drug cartels will be lining up early to turn in all their weapons. And given how safe the streets and cities will become as a result all politicians will be obligated to eliminate their private and public security details because they will no longer be necessary. Because more gun control legislation has passed. People getting robbed or assaulted by an armed assailant can soon inform them they are breaking the new gun control law. I expect they'll apologize and move on! Truth be told here the pols and their government agents want to ban weapons held by people they expect to be hassling sometime in the future for doing or not doing something they will make "illegal". Things like thinking for yourself, and doubting all the BS they feed you. So they want to disarm them now so they don't end up getting their asses shot off later. Got nothing to do with public safety. They don't care about you or me getting killed by an armed gunman. As long as their back sides are safe. Street criminals will still be killing people in the streets. Homicide, armed robbery, and other crime stats will not be impacted. Just more BS posturing for their followers. Nothing will change and then cries for more... wait for it... gun control.. And the cycle of failure to address the core problem will continue.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 18 hours ago, BillStime said: Just as quickly as you are taking away our voting rights. I'm not trying to take away any thing i don't know WTH your talking about . I didn't say i agree'd with what she said in the thing you posted . Voting in a "American election" should be for ALL American citizens only and just like when you get pulled over you show ID or when you make a large purchase like a house you have to prove you are who you are or a car you should have some kind of proof that you are the person you say you are & that when you vote you are citizen of the country which you are voting in and that you are alive . We as American citizens can't go to Mexico, or Canada & vote just because or country boarders theirs hell from what i understand you can't even purchase property in some countries if your not a citizen . And if you decide to stay in a Foreign country as a "Foreigner" you need a visa to stay any length of time to prove who you are ! So whats so wrong with showing ID and proving your are actual citizen of the country which you are voting in ? Here's a question have you ever had your info stolen like a debit or credit card ? And if so did it piss you off ? if not then your 1 of a kind . I have twice and i was not at all happy so if someone is doing the same thing in some instances using some one else info when it comes to voting why shouldn't that be fixed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, 716er said: This is an extremely disturbing post. Why? The coroner said he has a fentanyl level in his blood rgarvwas way over the lethal levels. it was just a matter of time before he died from it. Edited March 12, 2021 by Wacka dug in board- was repeated 4X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 18 hours ago, Tiberius said: Background checks are taking away your rights? Only if you are voting i guess . But to be honest i haven't read the bill so i don't know what's in it ! But just like the "Corona virus stimulus bill" that has money for a bridge to canada in it and money for other countries and monies to pay every one even those that haven't lost their jobs or made more money due to the pandemic (which makes a ton of sense weather it's Trump or Biden) it wouldn't surprise me at all if there was some kind of funky language in there to screw us in some way shape or form because that's just what politicians do . I have no problem with doing a back ground check lord knows with all the wack jobs running around today it couldn't hurt but politicians have been trying to get rid of our second amendment longer than you & i have been around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, T master said: I'm not trying to take away any thing i don't know WTH your talking about . I didn't say i agree'd with what she said in the thing you posted . Voting in a "American election" should be for ALL American citizens only and just like when you get pulled over you show ID or when you make a large purchase like a house you have to prove you are who you are or a car you should have some kind of proof that you are the person you say you are & that when you vote you are citizen of the country which you are voting in and that you are alive . We as American citizens can't go to Mexico, or Canada & vote just because or country boarders theirs hell from what i understand you can't even purchase property in some countries if your not a citizen . And if you decide to stay in a Foreign country as a "Foreigner" you need a visa to stay any length of time to prove who you are ! So whats so wrong with showing ID and proving your are actual citizen of the country which you are voting in ? Here's a question have you ever had your info stolen like a debit or credit card ? And if so did it piss you off ? if not then your 1 of a kind . I have twice and i was not at all happy so if someone is doing the same thing in some instances using some one else info when it comes to voting why shouldn't that be fixed ? Should you have to provide proof of citizenship every time you vote? Highly unnecessary as that could be done once when you register to vote. With respect to showing ID, I have no problem with it when it comes to in person voting but if that is a requirement, the types of IDs that are accepted should be wide and the ability to obtain an ID should be free and readily accessible. The ID laws are being used as voter suppression. In Texas, they accept a gun permit but will not accept and ID from a State University. This makes little sense if all you are trying to do is prove "you are who you say you are". I don't see ID being necessary for mail in voting since ballots are only sent to addresses of registered voters and there is a signature matching requirement, which should suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
716er Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Wacka said: Why? The coroner said he has a fentanyl level in his blood rgarvwas way over the lethal levels. it was just a matter of time before he died from it. Why? The coroner said he has a fentanyl level in his blood rgarvwas way over the lethal levels. it was just a matter of time before he died from it. Why? The coroner said he has a fentanyl level in his blood rgarvwas way over the lethal levels. it was just a matter of time before he died from it. Why? The coroner said he has a fentanyl level in his blood rgarvwas way over the lethal levels. it was just a matter of time before he died from it. That's not what the coroner said. There's also an antidote. Raised levels of fentanyl are not a death sentence, unless a cop decides to asphyxiate someone instead of providing them with narcan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 3 hours ago, T master said: I'm not trying to take away any thing i don't know WTH your talking about . I didn't say i agree'd with what she said in the thing you posted . Voting in a "American election" should be for ALL American citizens only and just like when you get pulled over you show ID or when you make a large purchase like a house you have to prove you are who you are or a car you should have some kind of proof that you are the person you say you are & that when you vote you are citizen of the country which you are voting in and that you are alive . We as American citizens can't go to Mexico, or Canada & vote just because or country boarders theirs hell from what i understand you can't even purchase property in some countries if your not a citizen . And if you decide to stay in a Foreign country as a "Foreigner" you need a visa to stay any length of time to prove who you are ! So whats so wrong with showing ID and proving your are actual citizen of the country which you are voting in ? Here's a question have you ever had your info stolen like a debit or credit card ? And if so did it piss you off ? if not then your 1 of a kind . I have twice and i was not at all happy so if someone is doing the same thing in some instances using some one else info when it comes to voting why shouldn't that be fixed ? We do have a system...its called registration and signature matching. This system has been proven hundreds of millions - if not billions of times to work - with only a HANDFUL of fraudulent votes. What more do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T master Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Scraps said: Should you have to provide proof of citizenship every time you vote? Highly unnecessary as that could be done once when you register to vote. With respect to showing ID, I have no problem with it when it comes to in person voting but if that is a requirement, the types of IDs that are accepted should be wide and the ability to obtain an ID should be free and readily accessible. The ID laws are being used as voter suppression. In Texas, they accept a gun permit but will not accept and ID from a State University. This makes little sense if all you are trying to do is prove "you are who you say you are". I don't see ID being necessary for mail in voting since ballots are only sent to addresses of registered voters and there is a signature matching requirement, which should suffice. Every one in the US that are citizens receive a SS card why couldn't they update that card every so often with your picture attached ? Or when i moved i had to register to vote in the county in the state that i moved to so why couldn't that be used with a picture i also had to do my license why couldn't that have a dual use ? The one thing that worries me is (and i've written this before here) My mother passed away some 8 yrs ago and this past election i got 4 different calls and a couple of emails for her to vote for the democrat party so if that has happened this time to me how many others has it happened to ? If they can get her info as they did to call me say if they mail out a mail in ballot to a bogus address and sign it who's to say that hasn't happened . I really don't know the answer but you would think that some kind of common sense way to do this so we don't have to listen to the BS from either side . I for one was tired of listening to Trumps allegations of voter fraud and was as tired of listening to those that complained about there being no voter fraud then what ever happened with the Georgia/Pennsylvania thing is just a bunch of crap that could & should be avoided going forward or every election will turn out the same as the last with huge questions by 1 side or the other . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, T master said: Every one in the US that are citizens receive a SS card why couldn't they update that card every so often with your picture attached ? Or when i moved i had to register to vote in the county in the state that i moved to so why couldn't that be used with a picture i also had to do my license why couldn't that have a dual use ? The one thing that worries me is (and i've written this before here) My mother passed away some 8 yrs ago and this past election i got 4 different calls and a couple of emails for her to vote for the democrat party so if that has happened this time to me how many others has it happened to ? If they can get her info as they did to call me say if they mail out a mail in ballot to a bogus address and sign it who's to say that hasn't happened . I really don't know the answer but you would think that some kind of common sense way to do this so we don't have to listen to the BS from either side . I for one was tired of listening to Trumps allegations of voter fraud and was as tired of listening to those that complained about there being no voter fraud then what ever happened with the Georgia/Pennsylvania thing is just a bunch of crap that could & should be avoided going forward or every election will turn out the same as the last with huge questions by 1 side or the other . Your anecdotes are good...but voter fraud is so small...it really doesn't exist with the systems in place.....Misinformation and manipulation on the other hand...The GOP has nothing to run on anymore ....that is the problem Edited March 12, 2021 by TH3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Antifa Comes Back for More, Sets Fire to Portland Federal Courthouse https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/03/12/antifa-comes-back-for-more-sets-fire-to-portland-federal-courthouse-n342024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Scraps said: Should you have to provide proof of citizenship every time you vote? Highly unnecessary as that could be done once when you register to vote. So you don't see ID theft as an issue? Picture ID. Match? Here ya go vote away. Doesn't match? Call the authorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: So you don't see ID theft as an issue? Picture ID. Match? Here ya go vote away. Doesn't match? Call the authorities. Clearly you did not understand my post. I did not object to showing ID for in person voting. I am objecting to having to prove citizenship every time you vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Scraps said: Clearly you did not understand my post. I did not object to showing ID for in person voting. I am objecting to having to prove citizenship every time you vote. And I'm saying to should need to prove you are who you say you are when you vote. Just because Joe Blow registered to vote doesn't mean the person showing up to vote saying he's Joe Blow is actually him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: And I'm saying to should need to prove you are who you say you are when you vote. Just because Joe Blow registered to vote doesn't mean the person showing up to vote saying he's Joe Blow is actually him. Fine. I agreed with that. However if that is a requirement, the types of acceptable IDs should be broad and easily, in some cases freely obtained. I again bring up the example of Texas where a gun registration is acceptable but a student ID from a state university or college is not. Both should be acceptable as both " prove you are who you say you are". The only reason why both aren't accepted is because the Republicans know college voters would disadvantage them at the polls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, Scraps said: Fine. I agreed with that. However if that is a requirement, the types of acceptable IDs should be broad and easily, in some cases freely obtained. I again bring up the example of Texas where a gun registration is acceptable but a student ID from a state university or college is not. Both should be acceptable as both " prove you are who you say you are". The only reason why both aren't accepted is because the Republicans know college voters would disadvantage them at the polls. lol Texas. Of course they want the gun owners to vote but not the college kids... 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Scraps said: Fine. I agreed with that. However if that is a requirement, the types of acceptable IDs should be broad and easily, in some cases freely obtained. I again bring up the example of Texas where a gun registration is acceptable but a student ID from a state university or college is not. Both should be acceptable as both " prove you are who you say you are". The only reason why both aren't accepted is because the Republicans know college voters would disadvantage them at the polls. What are the requirements needed for a TX State University ID card? I would assume that is the reason they are not accepted vs the reason you gave in your last sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: What are the requirements needed for a TX State University ID card? I would assume that is the reason they are not accepted vs the reason you gave in your last sentence. And why would you ASSume that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Just now, Scraps said: And why would you ASSume that? Let me ask you a question. Can a foreign student get a student ID in TX? And my assumption is a little more valid (and provable) than your conspiracy reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 6 hours ago, T master said: I have no problem with doing a back ground check lord knows with all the wack jobs running around today it couldn't hurt but politicians have been trying to get rid of our second amendment longer than you & i have been around . Good. Hope you are well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) On 3/11/2021 at 11:37 AM, Wacka said: Floyd had a lethal level of fentanyl in him before he even interacted with the cops. He was walking dead. I mean, everybody is dying from the moment they're born. Go nuts. You can't be convicted! Edited March 12, 2021 by jeremy2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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