H.R. 1 And The Fight For Voting Rights -- We The People!

[Big Blitz]

6 hours ago, BillStime said:

Of course Mister Interdependent wouldn’t question a law where all the checks and balances are wiped away and power is centralized to the ruling party. 

This hardly makes our elections fair.

 

Yet, still - no one here can tell us why all these changes are required.

 

 

 

Because you put 90 million votes in the mail, turned election day into election season, and made "absentee" voting a total joke thus half the population (we don't need Trump to tell us this we already know) believes the vote is a sham.  

 

Don't worry.  Facebook will help get folks to the polls on election day to vote for the "right" candidates.

 

Not sure why the outrage still. 

 

Oh wait.  That's the point.  Outrage.  Outrage everywhere!  "So go vote em out!  Outrage and more Outrage!"   

[Chef Jim]

4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Not sure why the outrage still. 

Come on man!  Dontcha know?  It’s racist!   Even our beloved POTUS said it was reminiscent of Jim Crow.  Funny how it’s only the POC in lines that won’t be getting a coooool drink of water.  

[BillStime]

5 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

 

I did.  Why is it racist? 

Why is that racist?

Jim - I don’t have time today (Happy Easter) to fight about the racist intent of the bill but this NYT article highlights and links specific passages of the bill that could be interpreted as limiting voting that would target specific counties and its residents.

 

What Georgia’s Voting Law Really Does

10 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Because you put 90 million votes in the mail, turned election day into election season, and made "absentee" voting a total joke thus half the population (we don't need Trump to tell us this we already know) believes the vote is a sham.  

 

Don't worry.  Facebook will help get folks to the polls on election day to vote for the "right" candidates.

 

Not sure why the outrage still. 

 

Oh wait.  That's the point.  Outrage.  Outrage everywhere!  "So go vote em out!  Outrage and more Outrage!"   

Outrage? Like Trump and his lemmings biching about fraud months before the actual election and not being able to prove any of it?

 

Hiring a bunch of incompetent “lawyers” to run around the country planting law suits to give the impression of widespread election fraud?

 

If Trump had actual evidence the GQP would have hired the best. 

[Chef Jim]

7 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Jim - I don’t have time today (Happy Easter) to fight about the racist intent of the bill but this NYT article highlights and links specific passages of the bill that could be interpreted as limiting voting that would target specific counties and its residents.

 

What Georgia’s Voting Law Really Does

I don’t subscribe to The Times. Can you give me some quotes. 😉

 

And don’t give me this “I don’t have time” *****.  I’ve been asking you why this is racist for a few days now. 🙄

[BillStime]

23 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

I don’t subscribe to The Times. Can you give me some quotes. 😉

 

And don’t give me this “I don’t have time” *****.  I’ve been asking you why this is racist for a few days now. 🙄

 

Try googling the article as each bullet below takes you right to the actual text of the law.

Now go nitpick and provide no analysis or thought of the true intentions of the law as well as how some of the parts are purposely vague - ripe for interrogation for whomever is in power.

 

“Voters will now have less time to request absentee ballots.

 

There are strict new ID requirements for absentee ballots.

 

It’s now illegal for election officials to mail out absentee ballot applications to all voters.

 

Drop boxes still exist … but barely.

 

Mobile voting centers (think an R.V. where you can vote) are essentially banned.

 

Early voting is expanded in a lot of small counties, but probably not in more populous ones.

 

Offering food or water to voters waiting in line now risks misdemeanor charges.

 

If you go to the wrong polling place, it will be (even) harder to vote.

 

If election problems arise, a common occurrence, it is now more difficult to extend voting hours.

 

With a mix of changes to vote-counting, high-turnout elections will probably mean a long wait for results.

Election officials can no longer accept third-party funding (a measure that nods to right-wing conspiracy theories).

 

With an eye toward voter fraud, the state attorney general will manage an election hotline.

 

The Republican-controlled legislature has more control over the State Election Board.

 

The secretary of state is removed as a voting member of the State Election Board.

 

The G.O.P.-led legislature is empowered to suspend county election officials.

 

Runoff elections will happen faster — and could become harder to manage.”

Edited April 4, 2021 by BillStime

[B-Man]

2 minutes ago, BillStime said:

— and could become harder to manage.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

 

Try googling the article as each bullet below takes you right to the actual text of the law.

And because, Jim, I have seen you get so you already think racism is a  - go nitpick and provide no analysis or thought of the true intentions of the law as well as how some of the parts are purposely vague.

 

“Voters will now have less time to request absentee ballots.

 

There are strict new ID requirements for absentee ballots.

 

It’s now illegal for election officials to mail out absentee ballot applications to all voters.

 

Drop boxes still exist … but barely.

 

Mobile voting centers (think an R.V. where you can vote) are essentially banned.

 

Early voting is expanded in a lot of small counties, but probably not in more populous ones.

 

Offering food or water to voters waiting in line now risks misdemeanor charges.

 

If you go to the wrong polling place, it will be (even) harder to vote.

 

If election problems arise, a common occurrence, it is now more difficult to extend voting hours.

 

With a mix of changes to vote-counting, high-turnout elections will probably mean a long wait for results.

Election officials can no longer accept third-party funding (a measure that nods to right-wing conspiracy theories).

 

With an eye toward voter fraud, the state attorney general will manage an election hotline.

 

The Republican-controlled legislature has more control over the State Election Board.

 

The secretary of state is removed as a voting member of the State Election Board.

 

The G.O.P.-led legislature is empowered to suspend county election officials.

 

Runoff elections will happen faster — and could become harder to manage.”

 

 

Should be applied in every state. 

 

The opining aside which is inaccurate, but all these measures are legit and most importantly because it's what we've been told for 3 months, not racist and not suppression.

 

None of these measures are an unjust burden on voters of any color.  NONE.  

 

Unless you want to increase the odds of fraud, you would oppose them.  

[BillStime]

5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Should be applied in every state. 

 

The opining aside which is inaccurate, but all these measures are legit and most importantly because it's what we've been told for 3 months, not racist and not suppression.

 

None of these measures are an unjust burden on voters of any color.  NONE.  

 

Unless you want to increase the odds of fraud, you would oppose them.  

What’s inaccurate?

 

[SoCal Deek]

44 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Try googling the article as each bullet below takes you right to the actual text of the law.

Now go nitpick and provide no analysis or thought of the true intentions of the law as well as how some of the parts are purposely vague - ripe for interrogation for whomever is in power.

 

“Voters will now have less time to request absentee ballots.

 

There are strict new ID requirements for absentee ballots.

 

It’s now illegal for election officials to mail out absentee ballot applications to all voters.

 

Drop boxes still exist … but barely.

 

Mobile voting centers (think an R.V. where you can vote) are essentially banned.

 

Early voting is expanded in a lot of small counties, but probably not in more populous ones.

 

Offering food or water to voters waiting in line now risks misdemeanor charges.

 

If you go to the wrong polling place, it will be (even) harder to vote.

 

If election problems arise, a common occurrence, it is now more difficult to extend voting hours.

 

With a mix of changes to vote-counting, high-turnout elections will probably mean a long wait for results.

Election officials can no longer accept third-party funding (a measure that nods to right-wing conspiracy theories).

 

With an eye toward voter fraud, the state attorney general will manage an election hotline.

 

The Republican-controlled legislature has more control over the State Election Board.

 

The secretary of state is removed as a voting member of the State Election Board.

 

The G.O.P.-led legislature is empowered to suspend county election officials.

 

Runoff elections will happen faster — and could become harder to manage.”

Wow! That’s it? That’s what all of the outrage is about? Geez...what a waste of debate.

This time it really fits...YAWN! 

[Big Blitz]

21 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Wow! That’s it? That’s what all of the outrage is about? Geez...what a waste of debate.

This time it really fits...YAWN! 

 

 

But the Secretary of State!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BillStime]

3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

But the Secretary of State!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whats inaccurate? Your inability to prove me wrong?

[SoCal Deek]

17 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Whats inaccurate? Your inability to prove me wrong?

This is over. You had your shot. You provided your list which you say is “straight out of the text of the law”. And you fell flat on your face. Now just stop the madness. This is truly a nothing burger. Please find something outrageous to pin your outrage on. This surely isn’t it. Enough! 

[Big Blitz]

FACTS!

 

 

 

[Chef Jim]

3 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Try googling the article as each bullet below takes you right to the actual text of the law.

Now go nitpick and provide no analysis or thought of the true intentions of the law as well as how some of the parts are purposely vague - ripe for interrogation for whomever is in power.

 

“Voters will now have less time to request absentee ballots.

 

There are strict new ID requirements for absentee ballots.

 

It’s now illegal for election officials to mail out absentee ballot applications to all voters.

 

Drop boxes still exist … but barely.

 

Mobile voting centers (think an R.V. where you can vote) are essentially banned.

 

Early voting is expanded in a lot of small counties, but probably not in more populous ones.

 

Offering food or water to voters waiting in line now risks misdemeanor charges.

 

If you go to the wrong polling place, it will be (even) harder to vote.

 

If election problems arise, a common occurrence, it is now more difficult to extend voting hours.

 

With a mix of changes to vote-counting, high-turnout elections will probably mean a long wait for results.

Election officials can no longer accept third-party funding (a measure that nods to right-wing conspiracy theories).

 

With an eye toward voter fraud, the state attorney general will manage an election hotline.

 

The Republican-controlled legislature has more control over the State Election Board.

 

The secretary of state is removed as a voting member of the State Election Board.

 

The G.O.P.-led legislature is empowered to suspend county election officials.

 

Runoff elections will happen faster — and could become harder to manage.”

And I’m still waiting on how all of these are racist. 

[T&C]

So I have been reading through the last few pages of this thread and, unless I missed it on pages before... how is this new law racist? Seems like a level playing field for everyone.

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

FACTS!

 

 

 

I’m still waiting to hear what is in accurate @Big Blitz?

 

None of you racists will even touch or acknowledge the power shift because you know it’s fraught with potential fraud.

 

 

Hilarious to watch you guys try to sweep your racism under the rug and put this to bed. 

[BillStime]

 

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

I’m still waiting to hear what is in accurate @Big Blitz?

 

None of you racists will even touch or acknowledge the power shift because you know it’s fraught with potential fraud.

 

 

 

What power shift? 

 

From the corrupt executive branch to the corrupt legislature?

 

Who cares?  

 

Why don't you show us why this is more corrupt.  

[Buffarukus]

1 hour ago, T&C said:

So I have been reading through the last few pages of this thread and, unless I missed it on pages before... how is this new law racist? Seems like a level playing field for everyone.

 

from what i can gather.

 

biden said theres a eagle named jim involved. i think hes building a nest with peoples voter ids. baseball players killed jims cousin and are fearing his revenge so staying the hell out of georgia.

 

jim has not forgotten 

 

 

your all caught up.

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

 

 

Cool story.  

 

The Democrats that voted for the Iraq War 25 times later went on to oppose it.  One of those clowns just won* the presidency and I'm pretty sure it was never discussed.  

 

The Democrats that said Obamacare was going to fix this God awful health care system now say it needs to be replaced.  

 

The Democrats that said Russia stole 2016 were good with China stealing 2020.

 

 

 

We can do this nonsense all day. 

 

Why is the new bill a net negative for Georgia and more importantly, racist?  

Edited April 5, 2021 by Big Blitz

[BillStime]

49 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

What power shift? 

 

From the corrupt executive branch to the corrupt legislature?

 

Who cares?  

 

Why don't you show us why this is more corrupt. 

You are clueless.

 

26 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Cool story.  

 

The Democrats that voted for the Iraq War 25 times later went on to oppose it.  One of those clowns just won* the presidency and I'm pretty sure it was never discussed.  

 

The Democrats that said Obamacare was going to fix this God awful health care system now say it needs to be replaced.  

 

The Democrats that said Russia stole 2016 were good with China stealing 2020.

 

 

 

We can do this nonsense all day. 

 

Why is the new bill a net negative for Georgia and more importantly, racist?  

Deflect harder

[BillStime]

Trump might have 'found' the votes he needed to win Georgia under state's new election law

 

It's not a voting law. It's a confession of impotence from a dying political party. An admission that they just can't hack it anymore in the marketplace of ideas. A surrender to the harsh reality that they cannot compete on a level playing field. Electoral welfare. 
 

And we all know where the good ol white boys will steal those votes, right klan?

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

48 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Trump might have 'found' the votes he needed to win Georgia under state's new election law

 

It's not a voting law. It's a confession of impotence from a dying political party. An admission that they just can't hack it anymore in the marketplace of ideas. A surrender to the harsh reality that they cannot compete on a level playing field. Electoral welfare. 
 

And we all know where the good ol white boys will steal those votes, right klan?

Yo bro... Trump lost the election a long time ago. Why are you trying so hard to prove a fact? 
 

Why does that piece of garbage own your mind? 

[Chef Jim]

2 hours ago, BillStime said:

Deflect harder

Speaking of deflecting. What about this bill is racist?  Just figured it check in again.  One of the things that has made me very successful is I’m persistent. I’ll be back tomorrow. 

[Big Blitz]

3 hours ago, BillStime said:

Trump might have 'found' the votes he needed to win Georgia under state's new election law

 

It's not a voting law. It's a confession of impotence from a dying political party.

 

 

So who cares.  Dems 4 life.  

 

3 hours ago, BillStime said:

An admission that they just can't hack it anymore in the marketplace of ideas.

 

We will one day figure out how to offer more free stuff then you.   

 

 

3 hours ago, BillStime said:

A surrender to the harsh reality that they cannot compete on a level playing field. Electoral welfare. 

 

 

What made the playing field uneven?

 

We've gone from Jim Crow to "they can't compete on a level playing field" now?  

 

How so?  

 

I'd like to know why we close the polls at 5pm.  The people that work to pay for free ***t need to be able to get there to hire the people necessary to steal their money.  

 

 

3 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

And we all know where the good ol white boys will steal those votes, right klan?

 

No.  Actually no one here knows wth you're talking about.  

 

The suitcases?   At 3 am?  I don't understand.  

[reddogblitz]

18 hours ago, Tiberius said:

As opposed to losing their vote? Sacrifices are made all the time. 

 

How exactly are they "losing their vote"?

 

Other people sacrificing their income is easy for you to say.  Will you also be sacrificing a day's wages to make sure they aren't " losing their vote"?

[reddogblitz]

6 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

The Democrats that voted for the Iraq War 25 times later went on to oppose it.  One of those clowns just won* the presidency and I'm pretty sure it was never discussed.  

 

You must have missed my posts leading up to the election.

 

I brought it up multiple times.

Edited April 5, 2021 by reddogblitz

[BillStime]

9 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

Speaking of deflecting. What about this bill is racist?  Just figured it check in again.  One of the things that has made me very successful is I’m persistent. I’ll be back tomorrow. 

 

 

New Georgia law changes voting rules — and maybe results

 

CC: @Big Blitz

[T master]

I wonder if any of us actually know the language with in the Bill especially those few very out spoken people here opposed to it ? 

 

Alls i know is here say and believe alls those opposed know is strictly here say and personal opinion . I know some twisting of some things have been said by the new administration or that agin has been what i've heard .

 

I would like to actually see it in writing if the politicians/lawyers/ crooks that wrote the bill put it in any terms that the normal human being can understand with out any twists & turns in the language within .

 

I can't understand that if a bill makes or attempts to make the integrity or pout come of a action better why should or would there be so much opposition to it ? 

 

I also heard a man on the radio the other day explain he has been with Delta for years and they first agree'd with the bill when asked about it but he said ;

 

When you get on a plane they check your ID to make sure you are the person that bought the ticket, and if you go into their miles club in a airport they ask to see your ticket & your club membership with your license 3 forms of ID, & there was 1 other thing he mentioned which i can't remember .

 

But he said their actions are very hypocritical seeing as when a little pressure was applied that they flip flopped yet they still keep their own rules in place within their company which made a lot of sense !!

 

If ny one has a link to the actual bill please post it i would like to see for myself what the content is before i can make a true evaluation of it other than what i've heard . Thanks !!

 

 

[BillStime]

GQP 101 - When they don't pick you - YOU PICK THEM.

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

3 minutes ago, BillStime said:

GQP 101 - When they don't pick you - YOU PICK THEM.

 

 

As always with these social justice issues there's a lot of drama but not a lot of specifics.  Every idiot is tweeted (I always wonder why they didn't call it Twitting?) mostly nonsense. We need some common definition here. 

 

I would define "restricting" to mean insuring all legal citizens can all vote in the distinct or jurisdiction where they reside and people not meeting that criteria cannot vote in that district or jurisdiction.  Is there any problem with that for starters? 

[T master]

25 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

 

New Georgia law changes voting rules — and maybe results

 

CC: @Big Blitz

 

Do you have a link to the bill if so will you post it so we can read it and have you yourself read it so you know what you are fighting for or against ? 

 

Or like me are you going by what you here from others and make your opinion based upon others opinions or here say ? Or is it that you are for one party & no matter what the other says your against it no matter what ? 

 

Just wondering for my self because that is what i've done just listened to others and what they have told me which o do give them credit in the hopes of them knowing more than myself but would rather try to make sense of it if i can by reading it rather then hereing it . 

[BillStime]

5 minutes ago, T master said:

 

Do you have a link to the bill if so will you post it so we can read it and have you yourself read it so you know what you are fighting for or against ? 

 

Or like me are you going by what you here from others and make your opinion based upon others opinions or here say ? Or is it that you are for one party & no matter what the other says your against it no matter what ? 

 

Just wondering for my self because that is what i've done just listened to others and what they have told me which o do give them credit in the hopes of them knowing more than myself but would rather try to make sense of it if i can by reading it rather then hereing it . 

Just google it. It’s there - 95 pages. 

[SoCal Deek]

36 minutes ago, T master said:

 

Do you have a link to the bill if so will you post it so we can read it and have you yourself read it so you know what you are fighting for or against ? 

 

Or like me are you going by what you here from others and make your opinion based upon others opinions or here say ? Or is it that you are for one party & no matter what the other says your against it no matter what ? 

 

Just wondering for my self because that is what i've done just listened to others and what they have told me which o do give them credit in the hopes of them knowing more than myself but would rather try to make sense of it if i can by reading it rather then hereing it . 

Yesterday he posted his Top Ten worst things the Bill does, and there wasn't a single one of them that should cause this length of dialogue or fake outrage. This is yet another nothing burger set up by the Left to make everyone else give up their rights under the false veil of equity and social justice.

[aristocrat]

 

[BillStime]

14 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Yesterday he posted his Top Ten worst things the Bill does, and there wasn't a single one of them that should cause this length of dialogue or fake outrage. This is yet another nothing burger set up by the Left to make everyone else give up their rights under the false veil of equity and social justice.

Why didn’t the new bill replace the 100’s of recently closed voting sites in mostly black areas? 

[BillStime]

 

20 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

Thank you for making the case for universal voting laws!!!! You’re the best.

[Tiberius]

9 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

How exactly are they "losing their vote"?

 

Other people sacrificing their income is easy for you to say.  Will you also be sacrificing a day's wages to make sure they aren't " losing their vote"?

Making it harder for them to vote might make it so they just don’t vote, which is the point of the law. I’d rather miss a payday than allow the dirty Republicans to take my vote away. 

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Making it harder for them to vote might make it so they just don’t vote, which is the point of the law. I’d rather miss a payday than allow the dirty Republicans to take my vote away. 

 

The people the GQP are targeting cannot afford to miss a pay day though... and that's the point.

[BillStime]

GQP goals and inspiration:

 

Putin signs law allowing him to run for two more terms in Kremlin

 

*2036