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3 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Thoughts about Cuomo:

 

- the classic lecher who hits on every young woman the office hires. And I can only assume it may have worked, at least a little, once or twice or he wouldn’t keep trying.

 

- or is he really that slow to catch on? Maybe. I mean, read the openly available profiles of his alleged victim Charlotte Bennett:

 

https://conandaily.com/2021/02/28/charlotte-bennett-biography-13-things-about-andrew-cuomos-ex-aide/

 

Very public about having been the victim of sexual assault. Worked on these issues. I’m just gonna say, “Unlikely subject to react well to old creeper big boss’s “playful” banter.” Andrew, it’s called google ... you type in a name, you find out who you’re dealing with before you go all repulsive old man on her. 
 

- are these offenses that he should resign over? It’s getting closer. The one thing I haven’t seen so far: did any of these women see their career paths hindered by their refusal to indulge the handsy, chatty Gov? If so, he’s gotta go. Right now he’s in a gray area on that front. Don’t give me “but Al Franken” - he shouldn’t have resigned over his corny boomer antics either. 
 

Full disclosure: I’m a boomer myself. I have daughters just like the Gov. Maybe you should see what they think about an old creeper asking his female staffers whether they’ve had sex with an older man. 

 

 

 

 

I disagree only in the sense that the standards (resignation etc) set were set by people like Cuomo. He was a loud voice on this issue.   Believe women, trust without question unless of course the allegations are against them, then the woman are disposable and their stories untrue.  
 

He’s the guy who infamously called for Kavanaugh to submit to the furor of the masses and to take a lie detector test.  Perhaps he should preemptively submit to one to help us understand that the women are not lying, they’re just overly sensitive to his gifts as a human. 
 

We seem to be extremely comfortable with the concept of lofty standards like #believeher, yet uncomfortable with the fallout that naturally follows. 
 

Then again, he’s the 3rd former Attorney Gen in our state that is dealing with controversy,  corruption and criminal activity.  It’s almost a job requirement so it’s understandable that they would think rules don’t apply to them—they usually don’t.  
 

Franken actually did the honorable thing, ironically, following his own standard.  

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10 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Early?  
 

One of these allegations is 3 years old, the nursing home scandal is a year deep, and Cuomo has been exhibiting the behavior of an obnoxious and overbearing rich kid for a decade plus.  
 

With respect to #metoo, men and women in his administration, and the reporters seeking out truth had no interest in these stories.  
 

All that’s changed is he was accused of cooking the books post-Covid after getting rave reviews from the media, his admin, and his biggest cheerleader—him.  
 

Now that the blood is splashing on their shoes, he’s expendable. 
 

This is 3 years too late at best.  

 

Maybe you should read the post to which I responded.  Could have saved yourself some typing.  And, if we're going to talk about the splashing of blood, you sir, as a Trumper, better get some galoshes.  Or you can clean your feet with magic, Lysol, and hydroxychloroquine.  Either one. 

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40 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Maybe you should read the post to which I responded.  Could have saved yourself some typing.  And, if we're going to talk about the splashing of blood, you sir, as a Trumper, better get some galoshes.  Or you can clean your feet with magic, Lysol, and hydroxychloroquine.  Either one. 

But Trump!!!!!!

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17 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Thoughts about Cuomo:

 

- the classic lecher who hits on every young woman the office hires. And I can only assume it may have worked, at least a little, once or twice or he wouldn’t keep trying.

 

- or is he really that slow to catch on? Maybe. I mean, read the openly available profiles of his alleged victim Charlotte Bennett:

 

https://conandaily.com/2021/02/28/charlotte-bennett-biography-13-things-about-andrew-cuomos-ex-aide/

 

Very public about having been the victim of sexual assault. Worked on these issues. I’m just gonna say, “Unlikely subject to react well to old creeper big boss’s “playful” banter.” Andrew, it’s called google ... you type in a name, you find out who you’re dealing with before you go all repulsive old man on her. 
 

- are these offenses that he should resign over? It’s getting closer. The one thing I haven’t seen so far: did any of these women see their career paths hindered by their refusal to indulge the handsy, chatty Gov? If so, he’s gotta go. Right now he’s in a gray area on that front. Don’t give me “but Al Franken” - he shouldn’t have resigned over his corny boomer antics either. 
 

Full disclosure: I’m a boomer myself. I have daughters just like the Gov. Maybe you should see what they think about an old creeper asking his female staffers whether they’ve had sex with an older man. 

 

 

 

 

You cannot or should not talk like this. 

I believe this is ageism. This is wrong. Just because he is older he doesn't have the right to hit in a younger lady??. Come on! If it was an older lady and younger man it is ok? What if the younger lady hit on him?

Please please....don't take away my day dreams at the mall!😜

 

 

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8 hours ago, I am the egg man said:

What aboutisms relevant again to the Left now that it's moved on from Obama.

 

 

 

Hoax.  Wanna castigate Cuomo?  Go for it.  But if you're a Trumper and if you defended Trump's magic/Lysol/fake news/hydroxychloroquine approach to this mess, it's best to address the Cuomo issue with a teeny tiny itsy bitsy bit of perspective as to where you stood on precisely the same question a few short months ago. 

18 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Thoughts about Cuomo:

 

- the classic lecher who hits on every young woman the office hires. And I can only assume it may have worked, at least a little, once or twice or he wouldn’t keep trying.

 

- or is he really that slow to catch on? Maybe. I mean, read the openly available profiles of his alleged victim Charlotte Bennett:

 

https://conandaily.com/2021/02/28/charlotte-bennett-biography-13-things-about-andrew-cuomos-ex-aide/

 

Very public about having been the victim of sexual assault. Worked on these issues. I’m just gonna say, “Unlikely subject to react well to old creeper big boss’s “playful” banter.” Andrew, it’s called google ... you type in a name, you find out who you’re dealing with before you go all repulsive old man on her. 
 

- are these offenses that he should resign over? It’s getting closer. The one thing I haven’t seen so far: did any of these women see their career paths hindered by their refusal to indulge the handsy, chatty Gov? If so, he’s gotta go. Right now he’s in a gray area on that front. Don’t give me “but Al Franken” - he shouldn’t have resigned over his corny boomer antics either. 
 

Full disclosure: I’m a boomer myself. I have daughters just like the Gov. Maybe you should see what they think about an old creeper asking his female staffers whether they’ve had sex with an older man. 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with all of this.  Al Franken did something dumb, but he shouldn't have left if the only transgression was that stupid picture.  AC's (alleged) (mis)conduct is worse than Franken because AC is harassing employees.  Whether he resigns or not is almost immaterial.  There are supermajorities in both houses, and his political career is toast.  

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Ok, listen up people.

Their is a systemic issue here that has to be recognized before this behavior can be expected to change.

From a very young age, men, have been trained to try and try and try where as females, have generally been trained to resist resist resist.

It is difficult for the,male species to switch off genetics.

2 good examples.

1) In the species of praying mantis, the female bites off the head of the male after he is successful, thus making it impossible for him to try try try.

2) in any bar if a man stands up in the bar and declares his desire to have *****(as Sheldon would say) what are the odds?

If a females stands on the bar and declares her desire, what are the odds?

 

Thus the genetic challenge of males to have the need to try try try.

 

Look that up in your Funk and Wagnalls. 

So Gov...your mistake is in not recognizing when in charge you morf into a praying mantis whether you like it or not. 

 

Say Good night Gracee. 

 

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2 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

Ok, listen up people.

Their is a systemic issue here that has to be recognized before this behavior can be expected to change.

From a very young age, men, have been trained to try and try and try where as females, have generally been trained to resist resist resist.

It is difficult for the,male species to switch off genetics.

2 good examples.

1) In the species of praying mantis, the female bites off the head of the male after he is successful, thus making it impossible for him to try try try.

2) in any bar if a man stands up in the bar and declares his desire to have *****(as Sheldon would say) what are the odds?

If a females stands on the bar and declares her desire, what are the odds?

 

Thus the genetic challenge of males to have the need to try try try.

 

Look that up in your Funk and Wagnalls. 

So Gov...your mistake is in not recognizing when in charge you morf into a praying mantis whether you like it or not. 

 

Say Good night Gracee. 

 

Good try, Niagara. 
As I said earlier, setting aside exactly what he admits doing here ... a big part of the problem is not understanding your audience. It doesn’t take a social genius to understand that Charlotte Bennett was really really unlikely to exchange saucy banter with the Gov. Unless he’s 

the true kind of jerk who actually enjoys making his young assistants squirm, and therefore seeks out women he KNOWS will be offended. 

I realize this is dangerous territory,

but I go back to the favorite line regarding Trump’s ham-handed seduction ploys (“grab ‘em by the p—“ or “I just start kissing them”): “uninvited” advanced. I’m no defender of his actions, but “uninvited” is in the eyes of the touch-ee, not the touch-er. Maybe some women enjoy the attention of an old creeper. But if you guess wrong, that’s on you. Like I said, know your audience. 
 

And know yourself and how you appear to others. There’s a great monologue by Leonard Cohen about this - he was about 80 at the time. I can’t do it justice but it’s something like this:

 

You start out as a young man being irresistible to women. Then suddenly you become quite resistible. And then the worst part is you become downright repulsive. (NOTE: Cuomo is here. What used to charm younger women now just creeps them out.) But the weirdest thing of all happens after that. You become adorable again (NOTE: this is where touchy Biden now finds himself, adorable old grandpa; this is where Trump should be, but he insists on being stuck in repulsive territory. I blame viagra)

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SYCOPHANTS GONNA SYCOPHANT: 

Andrew Cuomo’s secretary Melissa DeRosa agrees with journo that we shouldn’t ‘let scandals distract from [Cuomo’s] pandemic competence.’

 

 

 

 

What Nursing Home Pandemic ?

 

 

 

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46 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Thanks for joining the conversation!  I figured you’d be too busy gnawing on a block of HCQ the size of a car battery to participate.  Good to “see” you!

 

I didn't respond to you.  Just made a comment on your usual idiocy which you fancy is humor.

 

I will say your observation on Lee Smith retiring was a (finally) worthwhile contribution.  

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1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

I didn't respond to you.  Just made a comment on your usual idiocy which you fancy is humor.

 

I will say your observation on Lee Smith retiring was a (finally) worthwhile contribution.  

Wait a minute....Lee Smith retired?  There goes the Super Bowl run!  Crap.

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3 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

SYCOPHANTS GONNA SYCOPHANT: 

Andrew Cuomo’s secretary Melissa DeRosa agrees with journo that we shouldn’t ‘let scandals distract from [Cuomo’s] pandemic competence.’

 

 

 

 

What Nursing Home Pandemic ?

 

 

 

some of the comments on that Tweet... wow...

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3 hours ago, Doc said:

 

I didn't respond to you.  Just made a comment on your usual idiocy which you fancy is humor.

 

I will say your observation on Lee Smith retiring was a (finally) worthwhile contribution.  

 

Hoax.  I make a lot of worthwhile contributions.  For instance, I’ve pointed out your “I’m a physician and HCQ is an effective treatment for COVID” hoax.  Last I checked, that position is not one that is supported by the relevant scientific community.  So maybe before you accuse others of idiocy . . . I’ll leave it to you to figure that one out. 

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50 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Hoax.  I make a lot of worthwhile contributions.  For instance, I’ve pointed out your “I’m a physician and HCQ is an effective treatment for COVID” hoax.  Last I checked, that position is not one that is supported by the relevant scientific community.  So maybe before you accuse others of idiocy . . . I’ll leave it to you to figure that one out. 

 

Yeah, the "relevant scientific community"...who didn't study it with zinc.  Or who claimed it was a dangerous drug.  Good one. 

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6 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

SYCOPHANTS GONNA SYCOPHANT: 

Andrew Cuomo’s secretary Melissa DeRosa agrees with journo that we shouldn’t ‘let scandals distract from [Cuomo’s] pandemic competence.’

 

 

 

 

What Nursing Home Pandemic ?

 

 

 

 

Surprised Cuomo hasn't "nasty'd" her for exposing nursing home lies.  Cuomo pulling blackface Virginia Governor defense.  That cockroach will make it through this.  Watch.  

 

   

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Joe Borelli: There is ‘more than enough’ votes to impeach Andrew Cuomo

NYC councilman Joe Borelli says there may be enough votes to impeach the governor in the state assembly and senate.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo's administration ordered homes for people with developmental disabilities to accept coronavirus patients — and never rescinded the order. 

The April 10 directive, which mirrored the Cuomo administration's controversial order to nursing homes, also told homes for people with developmental disabilities that they could not require hospitalized residents to be tested for coronavirus prior to admission or readmission.

Five hundred fifty-two residents at homes for people with developmental disabilities have died of coronavirus, the New York Office for People With Developmental Disabilities (OPWDD) told Fox News on Monday.

More than 6,900 people out of the more than 34,552 who live in such resident homes have been infected with the virus, according to OPWDD.

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5 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Yeah, the "relevant scientific community"...who didn't study it with zinc.  Or who claimed it was a dangerous drug.  Good one. 

Doubling down on your hoax.  Nice.  Maybe instead of wasting your time on an Internet message you should get this zinc information to Fauci,  and maybe the MyPillow guy, ASAP. 

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Cuomo must be feeling pretty emboldened, all he has to do is ride the tide

of the sexual accusations and then he will pretty much have gotten away with murder.

Actual murder, not lib fantasy ones.

 

 

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CULTURE OF CORRUPTION: 

 

New York needs answers now on Gov. Cuomo’s seven-figure book deal. 

 

“The Buffalo News filed a Freedom of Information Law request for those facts last August.

 

For the last seven months, Cuomo’s office has stonewalled with absurd claims it can’t find the records and so on.”

 

https://nypost.com/2021/03/09/ny-needs-answers-now-on-gov-cuomos-seven-figure-book-deal/

 

 

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13 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

Doubling down on your hoax.  Nice.  Maybe instead of wasting your time on an Internet message you should get this zinc information to Fauci,  and maybe the MyPillow guy, ASAP. 

 

The only hoax was the Dems lying about how dangerous HCQ was/is just because they wanted people to die to make Trump look bad.  Nice.

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26 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The only hoax was the Dems lying about how dangerous HCQ was/is just because they wanted people to die to make Trump look bad.  Nice.

That’s fake news.  The hoax was people like you and Trump and the MyPillow guy touting HCQ as an effective treatment for COVID when, in point of fact and irrespective whether it is used on conjunction with zinc, Lysol, magic, or any combination thereof, it is not.  You doubled and tripled down on a friggin stupid point that a guy who tried to lie his way out of a pandemic made.  Instead of working to, you know, actually solve the problem, we relied on junk science, lies, false hope, magic, household cleaners and such to wiggle our way out of it.  And here we are.  500,000 plus Americans dead, in significant part because we (and by we I meant Trump and his ilk, which, ironically, include “pro-lifers”) politicized a mask issue.

 

Now you play some nice little semantics game about the degree of danger ascribed to a drug by “Dems” who allegedly “Wanted people to die.”  That is patently absurd.  Almost as stupid as, say, relying on a malarial treatment that doesn’t move the needle on COVID to fight the pandemic.  But hey, you’re the scientist here.  

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6 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

Cuomo must be feeling pretty emboldened, all he has to do is ride the tide

of the sexual accusations and then he will pretty much have gotten away with murder.

Actual murder, not lib fantasy ones.

 

 

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TRUUUUUMP!!!

Well...after trump and Cavanaugh...the world has learned that these women accusers simply cannot be believed.... carry on AC!!

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6 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

Cuomo must be feeling pretty emboldened, all he has to do is ride the tide

of the sexual accusations and then he will pretty much have gotten away with murder.

Actual murder, not lib fantasy ones.

 

 

U.S. attorney, FBI investigating Cuomo's handling of nursing home deaths

 

“As we publicly said, DOJ has been looking into this for months. We have been cooperating with them and we will continue to," a senior advisor for the governor, Rich Azzopardi, said Wednesday night.

 

Current and former law enforcement officials say investigators are in the very early stages of their probe and the possible investigative avenues could include false statements, any scheme to defraud the federal government of funds or any misuse of federal funds.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-attorney-fbi-investigating-cuomo-s-handling-nursing-home-n1258207

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12 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

That’s fake news.  The hoax was people like you and Trump and the MyPillow guy touting HCQ as an effective treatment for COVID when, in point of fact and irrespective whether it is used on conjunction with zinc, Lysol, magic, or any combination thereof, it is not.  You doubled and tripled down on a friggin stupid point that a guy who tried to lie his way out of a pandemic made.  Instead of working to, you know, actually solve the problem, we relied on junk science, lies, false hope, magic, household cleaners and such to wiggle our way out of it.  And here we are.  500,000 plus Americans dead, in significant part because we (and by we I meant Trump and his ilk, which, ironically, include “pro-lifers”) politicized a mask issue.

 

Now you play some nice little semantics game about the degree of danger ascribed to a drug by “Dems” who allegedly “Wanted people to die.”  That is patently absurd.  Almost as stupid as, say, relying on a malarial treatment that doesn’t move the needle on COVID to fight the pandemic.  But hey, you’re the scientist here.

 

LOL!  Yeah that "scientist" leading us told us masks didn't work.  You want to blame the 500,000 deaths (solely, foolishly) on the politicization of masks...
 

And yeah, it's just semantics that the MSM was claiming HCQ was so dangerous despite being used by tens of millions of people daily, and that Trump only mentioned it because he owned stock in it...7 years earlier.  Because there were such better options available at the time...

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1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

LOL!  Yeah that "scientist" leading us told us masks didn't work.  You want to blame the 500,000 deaths (solely, foolishly) on the politicization of masks...
 

And yeah, it's just semantics that the MSM was claiming HCQ was so dangerous despite being used by tens of millions of people daily, and that Trump only mentioned it because he owned stock in it...7 years earlier.  Because there were such better options available at the time...

 

So now you’ve retreated from the “they wanted people to die” point.  Good.  We’re getting somewhere.

 

 And, on the Fauci’s thing, you’re misleading the reader. Fauci was skeptical of the efficacy of the masks, but only early in the pandemic and only for a brief time.  You, meanwhile, still would have us sucking down HCQ out of Pez dispensers.  You also ignore the “risk/reward” reality of HCQ use in certain classes of COVID patients.  

 

Moreover, let’s not forget that while Fauci followed the science on the mask issue, Trump and his crew did not.  Maybe it’s because they were too busy juicing bleach.  Maybe it’s because they were too busy snorting smashed up HCQ.  Or maybe it’s because they’re simply lazy, inconsiderate, and dumb.  So that’s where we’re at.  You harp on little mistakes as a way to distract from the point that you, as a scientist, were dead wrong on this issue.  

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8 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

So now you’ve retreated from the “they wanted people to die” point.  Good.  We’re getting somewhere.

 

 And, on the Fauci’s thing, you’re misleading the reader. Fauci was skeptical of the efficacy of the masks, but only early in the pandemic and only for a brief time.  You, meanwhile, still would have us sucking down HCQ out of Pez dispensers.  You also ignore the “risk/reward” reality of HCQ use in certain classes of COVID patients.  

 

Moreover, let’s not forget that while Fauci followed the science on the mask issue, Trump and his crew did not.  Maybe it’s because they were too busy juicing bleach.  Maybe it’s because they were too busy snorting smashed up HCQ.  Or maybe it’s because they’re simply lazy, inconsiderate, and dumb.  So that’s where we’re at.  You harp on little mistakes as a way to distract from the point that you, as a scientist, were dead wrong on this issue.  

 

I haven't retreated at all.  It's the only conclusion that can be drawn from the way the Dems viciously went after HCQ despite a) it being safe (again, safe enough for tens of millions of people to use daily and having been used for over 60 years, meanwhile Wuhan virus was killing people); b) it having been studied as a potential treatment for coronaviridae after SARS (i.e. well before Trump even took office) and with a known mechanism of action; and most importantly c) there being NOTHING ELSE with which to treat Wuhan virus.  Then to say Trump only mentioned it because he (formerly as it turned out) owned stock in a company that made a brand name version of it?

 

As for masks, I'm not misleading anyone.  Fauci said what he said.  I can links to video clips if you wish.  The mixed messaging did untold damage.  He also believed China's and the WHO's lies.  If Fauci can't get it right, why did the lazy, inconsiderate and dumb left think Trump should? 

 

And what science was Cuomo following when he put sick patient back in nursing home or not shutting down NYC and allowing it to seed the rest of the country for weeks?  What about the left completely ignoring and failing to shut down the super-spreader riots? 

 

If you want to believe this would have all been a nothingburger under Hilly/a Dem, be my guest.  It likely would have been worse.

 

 

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49 minutes ago, Doc said:

I haven't retreated at all.  It's the only conclusion that can be drawn from the way the Dems viciously went after HCQ despite a) it being safe (again, safe enough for tens of millions of people to use daily and having been used for over 60 years, meanwhile Wuhan virus was killing people); b) it having been studied as a potential treatment for coronaviridae after SARS (i.e. well before Trump even took office) and with a known mechanism of action; and most importantly c) there being NOTHING ELSE with which to treat Wuhan virus.  Then to say Trump only mentioned it because he (formerly as it turned out) owned stock in a company that made a brand name version of it?

 

My understanding of HCQ with respect to SARS-Cov1 is that it was tested and found to be effective in vitro but failed in vivo.  I think the same was found for SARS-Cov2.  The tests in humans have been muddled at best.  For every test, someone from the other POV knocks it down for some flaw in the conduct of the test.  Can you point to any double blind studies with a large number of participants that proves HCQ to be effective?

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10 minutes ago, Scraps said:

My understanding of HCQ with respect to SARS-Cov1 is that it was tested and found to be effective in vitro but failed in vivo.  I think the same was found for SARS-Cov2.  The tests in humans have been muddled at best.  For every test, someone from the other POV knocks it down for some flaw in the conduct of the test.  Can you point to any double blind studies with a large number of participants that proves HCQ to be effective?

 

None have been done.  For some reason they all omit zinc, which is the key.  And it's doubtful any will be done now that there are better options.

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14 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

None have been done.  For some reason they all omit zinc, which is the key.  And it's doubtful any will be done now that there are better options.

Sounds like the goal posts keep getting moved for this drug.  First it was that it had to be combined with azithromycin.  Then it had to be taken with zinc.  Then it had to be taken early.  It seems more like you are going to keep changing the combination of ingredients or the time until you get a positive result, which may just be because of the other drugs/minerals/vitamins than because of anything HCQ does.

 

Maybe people are skeptical of HCQ just because it hasn't really shown a clear benefit and not because “they wanted people to die”?

 

What better options are you talking about?

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4 hours ago, TH3 said:

Well...after trump and Cavanaugh...the world has learned that these women accusers simply cannot be believed.... carry on AC!!

aaaand in typical lib fashion...ignore the point of ya know, murder of old folks.

 

 

hint: when many people mention the sexual allegation part they are mocking liberals*

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