Biden Is The Green Energy President

[Tiberius]

Who the heck is against fighting pollution? Well, the party of Trump is 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2021/01/27/biden-climate-change/

 

Joe Biden had long promised to become the climate president, and on Wednesday he detailed far-ranging plans to shift the U.S. away from fossil fuels, create millions of jobs in renewable energy, and conserve vast swaths of public lands and water.

“This is not a time for small measures,” Biden said at the White House, adding that the nation had already wasted precious years as it delayed in dealing with the climate crisis.

But as he detailed his plans, the gas, oil and coal industries were already mobilizing on all fronts. From an oil patch in Alaska to state capitals to the halls of Congress, the industries and their allies are aiming to slow Biden’s unprecedented push for climate action and keep profits from fossil fuels flowing. Republican attorneys general from six states wrote to the new president, warning him not to overstep his authority. GOP lawmakers attacked his executive orders as “job killers.” And the petroleum industry revived television ads promoting drilling on federal lands.

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Industry executives expressed dismay at the scope, speed and direction in which Biden is heading, saying he is going much further than President Barack Obama ever did, while environmentalists said the danger that Earth faces is far more dire now than it appeared during Obama’s tenure and requires an extraordinary response. Last year essentially tied with 2016 as the hottest year ever recorded, and scientists say the planet is speeding toward irreversible damage.

In barely a week in office, Biden has moved to rejoin the Paris climate accord, halt the controversial Keystone XL pipeline, impose new limits on oil and gas production, and mandate climate change as a priority across every federal agency.

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Biden calls climate change an ‘existential threat’

President Biden on Jan. 27 signed three executive actions to combat climate change and said the U.S. had waited too long to deal with the “climate crisis.” (The Washington Post)

On Wednesday, he promised to use the government’s purchasing power to fund a federal clean-car fleet — and the jobs that would come with it. He pledged to help low-income and minority communities that have historically suffered the worst pollution. And he insisted the nation must set about preparing for the inevitable impacts of climate change, even as it tries to stave off the worst future outcomes. He also said the United States will lead the world in the global effort to cut greenhouse gases that are driving climate change.

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Biden’s aggressive proposals won broad praise from environmental activists and many fellow Democrats while setting off an intense battle with the U.S. fossil fuel industry, which has underpinned the nation’s economy for more than a century.

“This is a radical departure from almost any other administration, and I would even say, President Obama,” said Sen. Dan Sullivan (R-Alaska), echoing the sentiments of several others in his party and in the fossil fuel industry.

Limiting domestic #energy produced on federal lands and waters would undermine environmental progress, cost American #jobs, jeopardize education and conservation funding, and shift the U.S. to greater reliance on foreign energy. Read my statement on today’s executive orders: pic.twitter.com/Xlc90WXUvG

— Mike Sommers (@mj_sommers) January 27, 2021

“Our states have led the charge in successfully challenging unauthorized and unlawful executive actions, as you know from your years as vice president,” West Virginia Attorney General Patrick Morrisey and five other Republican attorneys general wrote in a letter to Biden. Morrisey sued to block the Obama administration’s rule curbing greenhouse gas emissions from power plants. “You can be assured that we will do so again, if necessary.”

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American Clean Power Association CEO Heather Zichal, who served as one of Obama’s top climate advisers, said no one should be surprised by Biden’s approach, given the mounting scientific evidence of the Earth’s continued warming and advances in recent years that have helped make renewable energy cheaper.

“If we’re going to remove 51 billion tons of greenhouse gas emissions annually and get to zero [emissions] in 30 years, this is going to require drastic action,” she said, adding that her members are prepared to invest $1 trillion in the coming years on clean energy projects. “We see nothing but opportunity.”

Biden’s special envoy on climate, John F. Kerry, told reporters at the White House on Wednesday that the scientific reality gives the president little choice.

“It is now cheaper to deal with the crisis of climate than it is to ignore it,” Kerry said, noting the massive sums taxpayers have spent recovering from increasingly devastating hurricanes in recent years. “We’re spending more money, folks. We’re just not doing it smart. We’re not doing it in a way that would actually sustain us for the long term.”

[snafu]

"Biden" and "Energy President" don't seem to go together.

 

[Big Gun]

Biden is a joke, there is nothing anybody can do to justify his actions to date! 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

15 minutes ago, snafu said:

"Biden" and "Energy President" don't seem to go together.

 

Snaf, whatcha figure the carbon footprint of an enterprise like a WaPo might be? 

 

I did a quick check, looks like the Social Justice Warriors pimp out Mother Earf for about 3.2 million newspapers weekly, and in DC for example, they'll have a newsie deliver it right to your door. I'm guessing carbon hovers for newspaper production and delivery, sorta like how COIVD spreads like a bastage except when it doesn't. 

 

Don't get me wrong--it's not like the WaPo could ever offer online subscription only.  That's crazy talk. 

 

 

 

 

 

[snafu]

10 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Snaf, whatcha figure the carbon footprint of an enterprise like a WaPo might be? 

 

More than cow farts!!

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

44 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

More than cow farts!!

 

Tibs may be an eco-terrorist* for supporting the destruction of our planet!  I bet he owns thousands of shares of Amazon too! 
 

 

*allegedly!**
**obviously 

Edited January 28, 2021 by leh-nerd skin-erd

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I'm guessing carbon hovers for newspaper production and delivery, sorta like how COIVD spreads like a bastage except when it doesn't. 

 

What's a newspaper?

[Tiberius]

2 hours ago, snafu said:

"Biden" and "Energy President" don't seem to go together.

 

He had enough energy to beat Trump 

49 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Tibs may be an eco-terrorist* for supporting the destruction of our planet!  I bet he owns thousands of shares of Amazon too! 
 

 

*allegedly!**
**obviously 

No I don't actually. Never got on the Amazon wagon, though it looks like a good idea. 

 

 

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

https://nypost.com/2021/01/28/john-kerry-still-has-private-jet-while-fighting-climate-change-report/

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

He had enough energy to beat Trump 

No I don't actually. Never got on the Amazon wagon, though it looks like a good idea. 

 

 

Well it’s official, we’re equally dumb.  

[Tiberius]

32 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

https://nypost.com/2021/01/28/john-kerry-still-has-private-jet-while-fighting-climate-change-report/

 

A hypocrite? Oh well, as long as the planet get saved 

[ziltoid]

 

[RiotAct]

TRUUUUUUMMMMPPP!!!!!

[Orlando Tim]

6 hours ago, Tiberius said:

A hypocrite? Oh well, as long as the planet get saved 

You believe the paris accord will save the planet? China and India are not even going to peak their usage for another decade but I know for you that "intent" outweighs results 

[reddogblitz]

Lets just hope Uncle Joe is better at picking green energy winners as President than the ones they picked when he was Vice President.

[US Egg]

Biden is the king of baby murdering presidents.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/president-biden-takes-office/2021/01/21/959170860/biden-administration-prepares-to-overturn-trump-abortion-rule

[T master]

On 1/28/2021 at 7:56 PM, Buffalo Timmy said:

You believe the paris accord will save the planet? China and India are not even going to peak their usage for another decade but I know for you that "intent" outweighs results 

 

Agree !! It just delays or redirects the pollution to another country that was being put out in America while we still pay for a huge chunk of it . Which could be intentional because if you are worried about what they are doing over here your not paying attention to what's going on over there 🤔 .

 

Those other countries that have strengthened economies because of American based companies bringing their manufacturing to them can work with much less regulations and or consequences because the gov't in those countries are pretty much in complete control and truly don't care about the people as long as the gov't/country is making money .

 

The Paris accord is just those countries involved acknowledging there is a problem with pollution that they are trying to make us think they really give a s**t about it !! 

 

It's almost like those that make us think they really care about curing cancer if they truly did they would stop making the things that cause it in the first place  tephlon, plastics with BPA, round up , scotch guard & many many others but how will you ever get rid of it with out getting rid of the source ?? 

 

Every person on earth now has C8 in their blood stream from birth which is a cause of cancer . Thank You Dupont / 3 M !! 

 

But then there would be no American cancer society, St. Judes, no professors to teach oncology no colleges to teach these things and no facilities or technologies to treat it and so on and so on it's all about the MONEY !! 

 

None of them give a S**T about anything but the bottom line and especially don't care about us or the future because they won't be here and the shell game will continue ...

 

 

 

[Wacka]

Obviously you were sleeping during science classes.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

On 1/29/2021 at 1:25 AM, reddogblitz said:

Lets just hope Uncle Joe is better at picking green energy winners as President than the ones they picked when he was Vice President.

I have been thinking I need to figure out which donors companies are going to get propped up with pack back money so I can try to get a good stock play. Is so well hidden though. I guess most big banks and Wall Street firms... 

 

but I’d love to get in early on the next solyndra early and sell it off before bankruptcy.  

Edited February 19, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[Motorin']

34 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I have been thinking I need to figure out which donors companies are going to get propped up with pack back money so I can try to get a good stock play. Is so well hidden though. I guess most big banks and Wall Street firms... 

 

but I’d love to get in early on the next solyndra early and sell it off before bankruptcy.  

 

Just like the Dot Com Bust. E-commerce, that will never work! But seriously, internet speed and software development was about 10 years behind the desire to shift sales online. 

 

Another way to look at it, it took an entire floor to house a main frame computer with 10KB storage capacity 60 years ago. Now our phone can hold TB's.

 

Solar and battery power will advance rapidly with investment. It's not the only energy of the future, but I wouldn't bet against it. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

40 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

Just like the Dot Com Bust. E-commerce, that will never work! But seriously, internet speed and software development was about 10 years behind the desire to shift sales online. 

 

Another way to look at it, it took an entire floor to house a main frame computer with 10KB storage capacity 60 years ago. Now our phone can hold TB's.

 

Solar and battery power will advance rapidly with investment. It's not the only energy of the future, but I wouldn't bet against it. 

sure but my thought is different. I just want to know which cronies are getting lobbed free federal money as a political favor so I can try to hit the stock right for a quick gain off of the rampant corruption. I wouldn’t bet against any technology, other than it’s unlikely to be developed here as Asia is hungry and focusing on STEM in school while my kids are busy reflecting on their privilege and watching the ascent of people to stardom for putting gorilla glue in their hair on tictoc. 

Edited February 19, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[B-Man]

 

 

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[BillStime]

19 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

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Who controls gas prices?

[T master]

Since my last post on this particular topic i noticed when i filled my gas tank that the cost is up almost a full dollar from a little over 3 months ago the extra money put on the cost of the gas must be for Joe to figure out how to get the country to go green i'm guessing .

 

$61 dollars to fill up just the other day last year it was like $45 to fill my tank . I don't know the exact reason but i'm sure some one here will tell me .

[Tiberius]

The Green New Deal is too expensive? 

 

But who will attack windmills? Saudi Arabia: Help us!!! 

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(Bloomberg) -- Saudi Arabia is seeking more help from the U.S. to defend its oil facilities, underscoring the kingdom’s concern about recent missile and drone strikes that it’s linked to arch-rival Iran.

The requests were put to President Joe Biden’s administration since January, according to a Saudi official, who asked not to be named as the matter is private. Saudi Arabia is also asking other allies for support to thwart almost-daily attacks on cities and towns, the official said.

On Sunday, the Saudi navy began drills in the Persian Gulf to enhance the security of “vital installations” and oil fields, and secure freedom of navigation in the region’s waters, the official Saudi Press Agency said. Saudi Aramco, the state oil company, will take part, according to SPA.

The military exercises follow three attacks on Aramco sites this month alone. On Friday, Yemen’s Houthi rebels, who are backed by Iran, said they were responsible for drones and missiles that targeted a 120,000-barrel-a-day refinery in Riyadh, the Saudi capital. They also claimed strikes on the world’s biggest oil-export terminal of Ras Tanura and on a fuel depot in Jeddah.

Intercepted

Saudi officials said their air-defense systems and fighter jets intercepted the projectiles used in all the attacks, preventing them from causing substantial damage. Amin Nasser, Aramco’s chief executive officer, said on Sunday the incidents haven’t impacted the company and that it will continue to supply petroleum to customers around the world “under any scenario.”

Still, oil analysts have said the risk of a major crisis in the Gulf is rising.

“We are one incident away from a major conflagration,” said Helima Croft, head of commodity strategy at RBC Capital Markets. “If one of these drone or ballistic-missile attacks results in significant civilian casualties, it could potentially lead to a more direct confrontation between the Saudis and the Iranians.”

 

 

On 3/9/2021 at 3:37 PM, T master said:

Since my last post on this particular topic i noticed when i filled my gas tank that the cost is up almost a full dollar from a little over 3 months ago the extra money put on the cost of the gas must be for Joe to figure out how to get the country to go green i'm guessing .

 

$61 dollars to fill up just the other day last year it was like $45 to fill my tank . I don't know the exact reason but i'm sure some one here will tell me .

Oil companies trying to make the people's party look bad? 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

On 3/9/2021 at 3:37 PM, T master said:

Since my last post on this particular topic i noticed when i filled my gas tank that the cost is up almost a full dollar from a little over 3 months ago the extra money put on the cost of the gas must be for Joe to figure out how to get the country to go green i'm guessing .

 

$61 dollars to fill up just the other day last year it was like $45 to fill my tank . I don't know the exact reason but i'm sure some one here will tell me .

Massive supply glut because the world stopped driving their cars a year ago. Oil prices were briefly negative!!

Edited March 22, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[RiotAct]

are all the discarded cloth and surgical masks on the ground that I’ve seen over the past 12 months part of the Demented One’s green plan?

[T master]

19 hours ago, Tiberius said:

The Green New Deal is too expensive? 

 

But who will attack windmills? Saudi Arabia: Help us!!! 

 

Oil companies trying to make the people's party look bad? 

 

 Number 3 now that's a classic !!

 

Wasn't the New Green Deal AOC's baby adopted by some of her constituents ? 

 

Always putting the blame on some one or something else never putting on your big boy pants and admitting something could be wrong with the thought or actions taken !

 

And gas prices are continuing to rise $1.00 & counting where i live ... 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

You each have the ability to do something tangible for the planet. Just go ahead and do it already! You don’t need to wait for complicated Climate Accords or Green New Deals to make it happen. For example: Is your home solar powered? Do you live close to where you work? These two simple steps alone will do more for the planet than everything else you can do combined. When you’ve done them...get back to me. 

[Tiberius]

7 minutes ago, T master said:

 

 Number 3 now that's a classic !!

 

Wasn't the New Green Deal AOC's baby adopted by some of her constituents ? 

 

Always putting the blame on some one or something else never putting on your big boy pants and admitting something could be wrong with the thought or actions taken !

 

And gas prices are continuing to rise $1.00 & counting where i live ... 

 

 

So you like being hooked to Saudi Arabias oil? I'll take a Green New Deal over being tied to those monsters any day. How many people starved today in Yemen because of the Saudi blockade? 

 

Ya, but going green is evil 

[ALF]

Prices at the pump are on the rise, driven higher by oil prices hitting $60 per barrel, a surge of economic optimism, restraint from US frackers and unprecedented production cuts by OPEC and Russia. The energy rally has been further boosted by predictions on Wall Street of a new oil "supercycle."

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/23/business/gas-prices-oil/index.html

[SoCal Deek]

13 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So you like being hooked to Saudi Arabias oil? I'll take a Green New Deal over being tied to those monsters any day. How many people starved today in Yemen because of the Saudi blockade? 

 

Ya, but going green is evil 

So then you agree that becoming energy independent would be the best thing to take the power away from those ‘monsters’. Great! Can we get back to the work on creating energy in North America?

[T master]

11 hours ago, Tiberius said:

So you like being hooked to Saudi Arabias oil? I'll take a Green New Deal over being tied to those monsters any day. How many people starved today in Yemen because of the Saudi blockade? 

 

Ya, but going green is evil 

 

We are hooked more on Saudi oil now than last year because of certain changes that have come about .

 

A little over 2 months ago gas was $1.00 a gallon cheaper than it is today there was a pipe line that WAS being built to bring more oil here to keep America more energy independent which by doing so kept the oil prices and the Saudi's in check and it had been that way for about 2 yrs and the change to more renewable energy sources could have been a bit more cost effective and easier on the American people .

 

Just ask those folks in Texas how they feel about green renewable energy after the freeze a month or so ago i bet they will be on your side with the Green New Deal .

 

Not to mention one thing all the folks forget about is Electricity has to be made some how and they sure aren't going to just shut down the power plants that are making it now so they will still need fossil fuels for a while unless another executive order is used to just shut them down like the one that was done for the southern border with no alternative plan put in place before making it so .

 

But like they are all saying that's not their fault but when you put the cart before the horse that's what happens .

 

The Yemen thing well most of all of that has been brought on by their President (or what ever he is) and people have been and will be dying there until he is gone .

 

It's amazing how so much can change in such a short time and people think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread go figure ...

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

13 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

You each have the ability to do something tangible for the planet. Just go ahead and do it already! You don’t need to wait for complicated Climate Accords or Green New Deals to make it happen. For example: Is your home solar powered? Do you live close to where you work? These two simple steps alone will do more for the planet than everything else you can do combined. When you’ve done them...get back to me. 

😂 

 

you silly person... that’s not how the liberal mind works.  The government should:

- make other people and companies pay more taxes, not them

- make other people and companies live more green, have a smaller carbon footprint eat vegan, not them

my sister in law is a great example of this. Card carrying liberal environmentalist. Staunch democrat. Constantly judges people for doing things unwoke or anything they do that is bad for the environment. 
 

Also, drives a jeep, the 4 door suv sized one, sends my nephew to elite rich kid private school, has a summer beach house and Boston suburb (the least diverse place I’ve ever seen) house and whose husband is a partner in HR law firm that represents corporations against employees. 
 

textbook 
 

 

[BrownNgold]

[SoCal Deek]

10 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

😂

 

you silly person... that’s not how the liberal mind works.  The government should:

- make other people and companies pay more taxes, not them

- make other people and companies live more green, have a smaller carbon footprint eat vegan, not them

my sister in law is a great example of this. Card carrying liberal environmentalist. Staunch democrat. Constantly judges people for doing things unwoke or anything they do that is bad for the environment. 
 

Also, drives a jeep, the 4 door suv sized one, sends my nephew to elite rich kid private school, has a summer beach house and Boston suburb (the least diverse place I’ve ever seen) house and whose husband is a partner in HR law firm that represents corporations against employees. 
 

textbook 
 

 

We apparently share a sister-in-law! Who knew? Honestly, my experience has been pretty much the same. When asked if they themselves are doing the simple things I mentioned above, they make excuses for why not. My house has been solar powered for over a decade and I live within five miles of my office. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

We apparently share a sister-in-law! Who knew? Honestly, my experience has been pretty much the same. When asked if they themselves are doing the simple things I mentioned above, they make excuses for why not. My house has been solar powered for over a decade and I live within five miles of my office. 

then you hear about guy like Tibs who talk green then buy chain saws, aweful for the environment with 2 cycle fuel and of course cutting down trees and a boat which significant water and air polluters on the list. It’s just a flock of theifs, liars, hypocrites and grandstanders. 

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

then you hear about guy like Tibs who talk green then buy chain saws, aweful for the environment with 2 cycle fuel and of course cutting down trees and a boat which significant water and air polluters on the list. It’s just a flock of theifs, liars, hypocrites and grandstanders. 

Well to honest, Tibs said he had a sailboat.  And if he uses the chainsaw infrequently, which I assume he does, then that's not terribly bad.  Everything should be compared to what you personally would do as an alternative....not to some ideal life style.  Put another way: Ask what you can do for your country and not what your country can do for you.  (Unfortunately, that messaging died with President Kennedy.)

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Well to honest, Tibs said he had a sailboat.  And if he uses the chainsaw infrequently, which I assume he does, then that's not terribly bad.  Everything should be compared to what you personally would do as an alternative....not to some ideal life style.  Put another way: Ask what you can do for your country and not what your country can do for you.  (Unfortunately, that messaging died with President Kennedy.)

 

spent two decades around sailboats. They spend a lot of time acting as slow motorboats. But recreational vehicles with motors on them are sure not green. 
 

and saws and axes don’t use any oil based products. 
 

again I’ve got no problem with owning those things, but don’t pretend to be on the side that climate change is the biggest crisis to humanity the world has ever seen. 

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

spent two decades around sailboats. They spend a lot of time acting as slow motorboats. But recreational vehicles with motors on them are sure not green. 
 

and saws and axes don’t use any oil based products. 
 

again I’ve got no problem with owning those things, but don’t pretend to be on the side that climate change is the biggest crisis to humanity the world has ever seen. 

Let's now go down a rabbit hole here.  This would be the same as the misguided extremism that we often read on other topics. Nobody is asking, or should be recommending that you completely unplug from the grid.  While I disagree with Tibs on so many topics, I am not going to get on him for owning either a sailboat or a chainsaw.  It's like owning a Prius.  It does very little good if your lifestyle has you driving it 300 miles a day!  Remember, it's not the thing itself....it's how much you use it.