Where will Ravens CB’s line up against Bills?

[Dkollidas]

Wondering if anyone had any insight on how they play their CB’s.
Will Smith play in the slot?

 

Or is Humphrey mostly in the slot?

 

Do their corners mostly stay in their same spot, or do they follow a particular guy across the field? 
 

I just believe that if Humphrey isn’t the one who shadows Diggs. He’ll get his catches. And if Humphrey isn’t the one in the slot, that Beasley’s route running will win against Peters or Smith as well. 

Edited January 15, 2021 by Dkollidas

[NewEra]

I had read that Humphrey will cover Beasley in the slot, but I’m not sure how credible the source is.

 

@AllDayLJ what do you think the ravens will do?  Who covers the slot the majority of the time?

[The Jokeman]

If I'm the Bills I try and get Marcus Peters on John Brown because think Jimmy Smith is slower and be easier to beat with Diggs. 

[AllDayLJ]

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I had read that Humphrey will cover Beasley in the slot, but I’m not sure how credible the source is.

 

@AllDayLJ what do you think the ravens will do?  Who covers the slot the majority of the time?

I wouldn't be surprised if we have Marlo in the slot and Jimmy Smith plays the other outside role along with Marcus. We've done that this year plenty of times. A lot of times it depends on the teams though, their WRs, etc. If they did put Marlo in the slot on Beas, they'd put Peters on Diggs and Jimmy on the opposite side.

[K-9]

Bill who?

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, AllDayLJ said:

I wouldn't be surprised if we have Marlo in the slot and Jimmy Smith plays the other outside role along with Marcus. We've done that this year plenty of times. A lot of times it depends on the teams though, their WRs, etc. If they did put Marlo in the slot on Beas, they'd put Peters on Diggs and Jimmy on the opposite side.

Thanks.  It’s a great unit you guys have there.  If I’m buffalo, I attack Peters vs Diggs every time.  If I’m martindale, I give Peters help on every play.  While I give credit to Peters for being a good playmaker on the ball, I think his coverage skills are lacking and expect Diggs to take him to the bank......the blood bank!- Steven seagal

 

 

[uninja]

In my madden head I force the ravens to track Knox, Beasley, Davis and McKenzie to one side of the field and try to create 1-1 with Diggs and Peters. 

 

Peters is an overly aggressive CB who freelances. He’s gonna try to go for the pick and in a 1-1 foot race with Diggs that’s a big mistake. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

5 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

If I'm the Bills I try and get Marcus Peters on John Brown because think Jimmy Smith is slower and be easier to beat with Diggs. 

Peters took John Brown's lunch money last year. 

[Dkollidas]

13 minutes ago, AllDayLJ said:

I wouldn't be surprised if we have Marlo in the slot and Jimmy Smith plays the other outside role along with Marcus. We've done that this year plenty of times. A lot of times it depends on the teams though, their WRs, etc. If they did put Marlo in the slot on Beas, they'd put Peters on Diggs and Jimmy on the opposite side.

If this is the case I believe Peters will be matched up against Diggs, snd that’s good for Diggs. Peter’s aggressive nature will overplay and Diggs will be able to get open.

[warrior9]

12 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Peters took John Brown's lunch money last year. 

There was no Stef and/or All-Pro QB last year. That point is moot.

[GunnerBill]

Humphrey generally starts outside but goes inside in nickel and they bring Smith in on the boundary. I will be interested if that is the plan tomorrow because Humphrey is their best corner and last year against the Bills they largely just left him and Peters outside.

[Coach Tuesday]

22 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Bill who?

 

@BillfromNYC, he'll take on ALL the CBs

 

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

Humphrey generally starts outside but goes inside in nickel and they bring Smith in on the boundary. I will be interested if that is the plan tomorrow because Humphrey is their best corner and last year against the Bills they largely just left him and Peters outside.

 

I think I read that Humphrey somehow was one of the most targeted CBs in the league?  And forced the most fumbles?  Peters is a gambler and teams avoid throwing at him, it's either a pick-six or he gets burned.

Edited January 15, 2021 by Coach Tuesday

[Buffalo_Stampede]

4 minutes ago, warrior9 said:

There was no Stef and/or All-Pro QB last year. That point is moot.

Not at all. Someone said the Bills should try and get John Brown on Peters. That matchup was a loss last year. 

 

We want Peters on Diggs. The best thing about our offensive design is Diggs is hidden. You have to actually try and find him. Bills have him everywhere. 

 

I'm not sure what the Ravens will do. They had Humphrey on AJ Brown last week. I think they feel Humphrey is their most consistent CB. I also don't think Marcus Peters can stick with Beasley. Diggs and Beasley are dangerous matchups for Peters IMO due to their route running style. You can't put Humphrey on both Diggs and Beasley though. So if I'm Josh Allen I look for whoever Humphrey is not covering and feed them all game. 

[Jauronimo]

12 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

@BillfromNYC, he'll take on ALL the CBs

 

 

I think I read that Humphrey somehow was one of the most targeted CBs in the league?  And forced the most fumbles?  Peters is a gambler and teams avoid throwing at him, it's either a pick-six or he gets burned.

They will rue the day they were drafted above the 6th round!!!

 

Diggs, double move, Allen pump fake, 50 yard TD tomorrow.

[JohnNord]

Humphrey will play slot which puts Peters on Diggs which is the first mismatch.  The next one is Jimmy Smith on John Brown.  Smith is not as quick as he once was.  Then you have another favorable matchup in Anthony Averett on Davis or McKenzie.

 

A good secondary but I have a feeling there will be plays to be made.  Turnovers could be the key to this game 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Humphrey will play slot which puts Peters on Diggs which is the first mismatch.  The next one is Jimmy Smith on John Brown.  Smith is not as quick as he once was.  Then you have another favorable matchup in Anthony Averett on Davis or McKenzie.

 

A good secondary but I have a feeling there will be plays to be made.  Turnovers could be the key to this game 

It's not that clear cut. Ravens move Humphrey around and the Bills move Diggs around. 

 

But that's got to be the Bills goal, get Peters on Diggs and dial up a double move deep shot. 

Edited January 15, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede

[YoloinOhio]

Humphrey plays in the slot and jimmy smith and peters are on the outside but Humphrey can play inside and outside - I think the Bills are going to move Diggs around 

[warrior9]

12 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Not at all. Someone said the Bills should try and get John Brown on Peters. That matchup was a loss last year. 

 

We want Peters on Diggs. The best thing about our offensive design is Diggs is hidden. You have to actually try and find him. Bills have him everywhere. 

 

I'm not sure what the Ravens will do. They had Humphrey on AJ Brown last week. I think they feel Humphrey is their most consistent CB. I also don't think Marcus Peters can stick with Beasley. Diggs and Beasley are dangerous matchups for Peters IMO due to their route running style. You can't put Humphrey on both Diggs and Beasley though. So if I'm Josh Allen I look for whoever Humphrey is not covering and feed them all game. 

I think we want Peters on JB for the simple fact that everyone else is a MUCH more favorable match up with Diggs.

 

We will be using a lot of motion. 

[Big Turk]

45 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

If I'm the Bills I try and get Marcus Peters on John Brown because think Jimmy Smith is slower and be easier to beat with Diggs. 

 

Peters falls for double moves a lot because he is so aggressive at trying to make plays on the ball. Pump fakes and shoulder shakes should get him to bite.

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, Big Turk said:

 

Peters falls for double moves a lot because he is so aggressive at trying to make plays on the ball. Pump fakes and shoulder shakes should get him to bite.

He’s also allergic to tackling 

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

He’s also allergic to tackling 

 

Yeah, he is kind of feast or famine. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

9 minutes ago, warrior9 said:

I think we want Peters on JB for the simple fact that everyone else is a MUCH more favorable match up with Diggs.

 

We will be using a lot of motion. 

And I'm telling you that Marcus Peters dominated John Brown in man coverage last year. It's hard for me to believe the Bills go into this game saying let's find ways to get Brown 1 on 1 vs Peters. 

[warrior9]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

And I'm telling you that Marcus Peters dominated John Brown in man coverage last year. It's hard for me to believe the Bills go into this game saying let's find ways to get Brown 1 on 1 vs Peters. 

There are so many variables. Our receiving core last year was not what it is today. Allen isn't. 

Last year, the Ravens were able to press and play man with the blitz (Peters is INCREDIBLY physical) and Josh wasn't getting the ball out or hitting the mark.

 

This year? Great, press and play John Brown with Peters, good luck covering Beas, Stef, Gabe, etc. Josh's ascension will limit the Ravens chances to press Brown, which will result in him having a much more effective game (whether it's Peters or not). 

 

 

So I'm telling you, adding Stef and "new" Allen will make this matchup for favorable. If they play man and blitz, it will be a long game for the Ravens and it won't matter if JB is getting beat.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

10 minutes ago, warrior9 said:

There are so many variables. Our receiving core last year was not what it is today. Allen isn't. 

Last year, the Ravens were able to press and play man with the blitz (Peters is INCREDIBLY physical) and Josh wasn't getting the ball out or hitting the mark.

 

This year? Great, press and play John Brown with Peters, good luck covering Beas, Stef, Gabe, etc. Josh's ascension will limit the Ravens chances to press Brown, which will result in him having a much more effective game (whether it's Peters or not). 

 

 

So I'm telling you, adding Stef and "new" Allen will make this matchup for favorable. If they play man and blitz, it will be a long game for the Ravens and it won't matter if JB is getting beat.

I understand the Bills have better options this year but I still don't understand why you want Peters on Brown. 

 

I think John Brown can be better than last year but I don't know what you're really trying say about that matchup. I love Beasley in this game though. Beasley is a man beater and Allen just didn't feed him enough last year. 

[warrior9]

Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I understand the Bills have better options this year but I still don't understand why you want Peters on Brown. 

 

I think John Brown can be better than last year but I don't know what you're really trying say about that matchup. I love Beasley in this game though. Beasley is a man beater and Allen just didn't feed him enough last year. 

I'm not saying I necessarily do. I'm saying that I think Brown will be more effective on Peters this year because they won't be pressing as much. 

 

If they're dumb enough to put Peters on Browns and leave the other 3 (and Knox) with less competition. Fine by me. Again, I expect there to be a lot of motion to be hoenst.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

6 minutes ago, warrior9 said:

I'm not saying I necessarily do. I'm saying that I think Brown will be more effective on Peters this year because they won't be pressing as much. 

 

If they're dumb enough to put Peters on Browns and leave the other 3 (and Knox) with less competition. Fine by me. Again, I expect there to be a lot of motion to be hoenst.

If Brown toasts Peters I'm coming to this thread immediately and giving you credit. I hope he does. Brown probably can't wait to get matched up with Peters after the final play last year. 

[PaattMaann]

Doesnt matter where they line up, they will all be burnt toast after 4 quarters 

[warrior9]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

If Brown toasts Peters I'm coming to this thread immediately and giving you credit. I hope he does. Brown probably can't wait to get matched up with Peters after the final play last year. 

Haha man, I don't think he will to be honest. I'm just saying, it could be more favorable for us this year since they'll more than likely be "off" OR Stef and Beas will have a biggggg day if they decide to press AND have Peters on Brown.

[Dkollidas]

I think the Bills will want Peters or Humphrey against Brown. That leaves Smith against Beasley or Diggs and Buffalo will take advantage. 

[GunnerBill]

56 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

And I'm telling you that Marcus Peters dominated John Brown in man coverage last year. It's hard for me to believe the Bills go into this game saying let's find ways to get Brown 1 on 1 vs Peters. 

 

Especially when there is no way he is fully healthy. 

[Crow-Magnon]

Don’t be surprised if they start man-to-man with Smith covering the slot receiver and transition to zone coverage depending on how the Bills passing game goes. 

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, Crow-Magnon said:

Don’t be surprised if they start man-to-man with Smith covering the slot receiver and transition to zone coverage depending on how the Bills passing game goes. 

 

You think that is more likely than Humphrey moving inside in nickel? I know they have done both a bit this year but I thought generally it was Marlon?

[Long Suffering Fan]

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If I'm the Bills I try and get Marcus Peters on John Brown because think Jimmy Smith is slower and be easier to beat with Diggs. 

 

They have two good corners and our running game is hurting and hasn't been that good all year anyway.

 

If I am the Bills, I think I start off by playing 4 and 5 wide like crazy.  Diggs and Beasley will beat their top two CBs some, but Brown, Davis, and Mckenzie/Knox will chew up their next three.  If they want to play zone, they are not going to be able to blitz.  They have to drop 7 against that many threats.  If they blitz, they play into our hands because we want them in man.  We would have a whole host of one on one match ups and Allen has proven that he will find the open guy.  And if they leave a running lane, Allen takes off and runs (or finds Gabe, etc. on the sidelines).

[Dkollidas]

15 minutes ago, Long Suffering Fan said:

 

They have two good corners and our running game is hurting and hasn't been that good all year anyway.

 

If I am the Bills, I think I start off by playing 4 and 5 wide like crazy.  Diggs and Beasley will beat their top two CBs some, but Brown, Davis, and Mckenzie/Knox will chew up their next three.  If they want to play zone, they are not going to be able to blitz.  They have to drop 7 against that many threats.  If they blitz, they play into our hands because we want them in man.  We would have a whole host of one on one match ups and Allen has proven that he will find the open guy.  And if they leave a running lane, Allen takes off and runs (or finds Gabe, etc. on the sidelines).

I think they go wide early as well just for the simple fact that it shows more of what the defenses intentions are. As you said, if we go empty and have 5 wide, if they blitz someone is open. Or at worst Josh is going to have WIDE open rush lanes. 

[Crow-Magnon]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

You think that is more likely than Humphrey moving inside in nickel? I know they have done both a bit this year but I thought generally it was Marlon?

I think Marlon will shadow Diggs with Peters on Brown and Smith on Beasley. With Averett on Davis as necessary. 

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, Crow-Magnon said:

I think Marlon will shadow Diggs with Peters on Brown and Smith on Beasley. With Averett on Davis as necessary. 

 

That is how I'd play it if I was Wink. 

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

If Brown toasts Peters I'm coming to this thread immediately and giving you credit. I hope he does. Brown probably can't wait to get matched up with Peters after the final play last year. 

You should also come him and give him credit if Peters covers brown most of the game and he doesn’t catch a pass.....meanwhile the other WRs feast and we win. 

50 minutes ago, Long Suffering Fan said:

 

They have two good corners and our running game is hurting and hasn't been that good all year anyway.

 

If I am the Bills, I think I start off by playing 4 and 5 wide like crazy.  Diggs and Beasley will beat their top two CBs some, but Brown, Davis, and Mckenzie/Knox will chew up their next three.  If they want to play zone, they are not going to be able to blitz.  They have to drop 7 against that many threats.  If they blitz, they play into our hands because we want them in man.  We would have a whole host of one on one match ups and Allen has proven that he will find the open guy.  And if they leave a running lane, Allen takes off and runs (or finds Gabe, etc. on the sidelines).

They have 3 good corners, jimmy smith is still a good player. 
 

I agree with you, I hope that we spread them out with 4-5 WRs sets all game and put lots of people in motion

[Pokebball]

3 hours ago, warrior9 said:

There was no Stef and/or All-Pro QB last year. That point is moot.

This!  Diggs and Allen's improvement have made Brown, Beas, Davis and Knox so much better this year.  Last year the #1 DB was on Brown.  The dynamics of our WR group is completely different this year.

[SCBills]

Cardinals and Chiefs were the two games this year where I felt like every throw Allen made was contested or into an incredibly tight window.  
 

Allen was hurt against the Chiefs and we’ve obviously grown a ton since that early season match up.  
 

The Cardinals game was a turning point in our season that began our ascension.  
 

I do not believe we are the same team that played in those games, but can the Ravens replicate what they did.  Seems to me they will try.  I remember a lot of clutch/grab/physical play in those games. 

[Crow-Magnon]

11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

That is how I'd play it if I was Wink. 

I’ll add this as well. If the weather conditions are slippery and windy, I’d play the CB’s up tight to the LOS and bring Clark and Elliott up closer. Tight enough to jam them off the line. Disrupt their routes and slow them up.