uticaclub Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Thats like asking Wayne Gretzky to learn how to skate 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 4 hours ago, spartacus said: maybe he knows a magic way to fix a busted up shoulder I doubt his poor instincts improve once the shoulder heals. They either slide him outside or prepare to let him walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) For the eight trillionth time, Edmunds is recovering from an injury, he's performing in a misfunctioning defense that mostly isn't providing him with what the coach feels an MLB in his defense needs (namely a very good space eater in front of him and to be surrounded by gap-solid responsible players) and in particular having Milano active next to him. He was very good in 2019, which is why he made the Pro Bowl. He does appear to be making some mistakes but an awful lot of it is because of the injury and because the whole system isn't functioning well. Edited November 2, 2020 by Thurman#1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: good boys make better football players 🥶 Yup, you're right, plenty of 'em do. Bobby Wagner has tremendously high character. Darius Leonard. Luke Kuechly. Milano. Plenty of others. Edited October 31, 2020 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 7 hours ago, BillsFan692 said: I just think he needs help out there. He plays better when Milano is on the field. He really misses Lorax. Lorax had seen it all and I think Edmunds and Milano both played better with Lorax on the field. Klein does not bring the same strengths to the LB room. I think what happens off the field has as much impact as what goes on on the field and Lorax was the clear leader in the LB room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I’ll never understand those that feel the need to make excuses for players poor performance. Yes, he’s supposedly injured. We get it! That doesn’t mean his play doesn’t deserve criticism. Edmunds has been nothing short of terrible all year. Does it make him a bad person? Nope. It just makes him a BAD middle linebacker....right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 We tried this with Ed Reed Didnt seem to help at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 9 hours ago, ILBillsfan said: Good break down vs the Jets Players are not doing they're jobs, easy to see live on games. Multiple players in the same gap. Players losing contained. I'm not sure if it's just a player issue. Our new DL coach is a veteran coach and this is unacceptable. Mental errors shouldn't keep happening with a veteran DL and coach. There was also one play he talked about wanting Edmunds to play physical in the gap. IMO his shoulder prevents him from taking on OL like that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: I’ll never understand those that feel the need to make excuses for players poor performance. Yes, he’s supposedly injured. We get it! That doesn’t mean his play doesn’t deserve criticism. Edmunds has been nothing short of terrible all year. Does it make him a bad person? Nope. It just makes him a BAD middle linebacker....right now. No, it makes it a reasonable opinion that he's playing badly right now. It's just as reasonable to say that even a different guy playing under the circumstances Edmunds is experiencing right now, even if he was playing well, might not be producing good results. Again, was Ray Lewis inefficient in the two or three years after Siragusa left and before Ngata arrived? Most people thought so at the time. After 7 or 8 terrific years he appeared to have started downhill. Weirdly, when they put Ngata in front of him, he suddenly looked sensational again. What a coincidence!!!! But during those wilderness years, when some people said, "He just misses a good space eater," others said things like, "I'll never understand those that feel the need to make excuses for players poor performance." Most felt Lewis had become "a BAD middle linebacker ... right then." Turned out - who'da thought it? - that how things are going around you affects how well you can perform in a complex system. Edited October 31, 2020 by Thurman#1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 12 hours ago, billsfan_34 said: Edmunds is an OLB and is playing out of position. However, he has really sucked. I agree, Edmunds is not a MLB. I feel like if he doesn't work out that he will be a ILB or OLB for a team who runs a base 3-4 defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I’m probably in the minority here but I always felt Ray Lewis was over rated. He had Sam Adams, Siragusa and a few other massive space eaters to be able to fly around freely... plus Ed Reed covering the back end. He was a great player but over rated as far as the way he’s perceived.... plus he stabbed a dude...so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 13 hours ago, spartacus said: maybe he knows a magic way to fix a busted up shoulder I think that excuse has sailed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 12 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He's thinking too much. Tells me maybe they're giving him more to handle this season. Time to pull back and let him just play fast. He's supposed to be the "QB" of the defense. I really hope he turns it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 People may not like Ray Lewis, but I really liked that segment. He does know what he's talking about. I hope Edmunds can start putting it together. I think he has the physical attributes to be very effective if he can stop overthinking the play and wait for the play to come to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 12 hours ago, ILBillsfan said: Good break down vs the Jets not sure why so many refuse to watch these and educate themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: I’ll never understand those that feel the need to make excuses for players poor performance. Yes, he’s supposedly injured. We get it! That doesn’t mean his play doesn’t deserve criticism. Edmunds has been nothing short of terrible all year. Does it make him a bad person? Nope. It just makes him a BAD middle linebacker....right now. Many (most?) folks here defend all current Bills players to the hilt, but then make jokes about them when they are no longer on the team. I don't understand it either, but that's how it seems to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Who has Ray Lewis ever taught how to play football? Keep this dirtbag away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 10 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: I doubt his poor instincts improve once the shoulder heals. They either slide him outside or prepare to let him walk. I do think his shoulder injury is hurting his game, but I agree that’s not all of his issues. He seems great at his first read, but any subsequent change seems to do him in. Teams have done well against him with counters and cutbacks. He’s also prone to overrunning plays in kind of the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsToast Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 A shoulder injury doesn't make you run the wrong way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BillsToast said: A shoulder injury doesn't make you run the wrong way. Dude just does not have the “it” factor to play the position or lead the defense...I would try to trade him for a 2nd round pick and draft a real MLB...I want physical LB’s and Edmunds is too soft...enough experimenting with trying to fit a square peg into a round hole... Edited October 31, 2020 by JaCrispy 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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