YattaOkasan Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) Even away defenses are probably gonna find the games quieter than normal. Any thoughts on if defenses take advantage of this and/or if offenses will have to adjust? I thought I saw some more hand signals from Watson, is that one way? Do they switch the calls half way through? do they pump enough noise into the stadium that I’m crazy? the idea of quiet games is still super weird me on the eve of the eve. Edited September 12, 2020 by YattaOkasan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 If there is an advantage to take teams are going to take it, at least the smart ones will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 Just now, Warcodered said: If there is an advantage to take teams are going to take it, at least the smart ones will. Agreed. I think there are more than enough smart coaches/QBs that will counter. How do you think they do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said: Agreed. I think there are more than enough smart coaches/QBs that will counter. How do you think they do it? For audibles I think they just have various versions of them based on themes. Like last year we could hear him calling out different pop singers. If it's in the huddle I don't know that's a whole lot tougher. Edited September 12, 2020 by Warcodered 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) @Warcodered Yes but words that start with L and R to determine the protection slide is sorta what I mean. It seems easier for a defense to pick up on that this year cause they can pick up better (they don’t have on field mics pointes at QBs accessible to them right?). Do they do a sub signal like righties and lefties for the slide??? That would actually be sick. EDIT: a L/R MLB pitcher call would be pretty cool cause there are so many of them and I don’t think defenses outside of the division have any chance of picking up on it. Divisional games is also probably where this matters the most. Edited September 12, 2020 by YattaOkasan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) 45 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said: Even away defenses are probably gonna find the games quieter than normal. Any thoughts on if defenses take advantage of this and/or if offenses will have to adjust? I thought I saw some more hand signals from Watson, is that one way? Do they switch the calls half way through? do they pump enough noise into the stadium that I’m crazy? the idea of quiet games is still super weird me on the eve of the eve. Read in ... I think Albert Breer's column that they will be piping in enough noise that the defense won't be able to easily hear what the offense says. The D, or at least the front seven, has always been able to hear the audibles, and that won't change, of course. There will be an effect, but my personal guess is that it will be minimal. Edited September 12, 2020 by Thurman#1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Read in ... I think Albert Breer's column that they will be piping in enough noise that the defense won't be able to easily hear what the offense says. The D, or at least the front seven, has always been able to hear the audibles, and that won't change, of course. There will be an effect, but my personal guess is that it will be minimal. I think you’re probably right but I like the idea of just an extra layer of subterfuge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) I can't remember which Bills coach but for some reason I think it was Jauron who apparently never changed their hand signals and line calls vs NE of all teams. Some Patriots player said they couldn't believe it. I remember seeing that a while back. Anyway as long as you switch up your signals no one should be able to pick up what you're doing. You might change them every series. Ever since Peyton Manning crowds have learned to be very quiet when the home offense is on the field. So there is an advantage lost for the home defense though, offense is able to communicate more easily. Edited September 12, 2020 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 We were discussing this in the TNF thread. I'm pretty sure crowd noise will be piped through the stadium on the PA system. So it may be louder in there on Sunday than you think. I don't think it will be a major factor one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Nextmanup said: We were discussing this in the TNF thread. I'm pretty sure crowd noise will be piped through the stadium on the PA system. So it may be louder in there on Sunday than you think. I don't think it will be a major factor one way or the other. Agreed. I feel like the ambient noise will be similar to a neutral site game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I think fans think they influence the game a lot more than they actually do. Not to say they don’t at all, but a prepared team can work around a hostile crowd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) Forget this year. I'm going to start worrying right now about 2021. How will the Bills be able to defend their Super Bowl championship and handle the deafening crowd noise after getting used to silence in stadiums? We can't just be one and done.... Edited September 12, 2020 by cage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commish Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 4 hours ago, YattaOkasan said: I think you’re probably right but I like the idea of just an extra layer of subterfuge. Mentioned on One Bills Live that a significant reason for piping in fan noise is to prevent teams and coaching staffs, both at the event and watching on television, from picking up defensive calls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I watch watching college football Thursday and the two teams had to agree on the level of crowd noise to be pumped into the stadium. Since they couldn't agree, I believe there wasn't any noise at all. Anyone know if this is the case for the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Quiet stadium should favor the visiting Offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 7 hours ago, Warcodered said: If there is an advantage to take teams are going to take it, at least the smart ones will. THIS IS NOT TRUE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 7 hours ago, Nextmanup said: We were discussing this in the TNF thread. I'm pretty sure crowd noise will be piped through the stadium on the PA system. So it may be louder in there on Sunday than you think. I don't think it will be a major factor one way or the other. Yes my quick search showed that was the only place it was being discussed. Figured a separate thread made sense. 4 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: I think fans think they influence the game a lot more than they actually do. Not to say they don’t at all, but a prepared team can work around a hostile crowd. McD would disagree with this unless you think he’s blowing smoke to the media (definitely a possibility) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Honestly I wonder if it helps Josh. He’s usually SOOO hyped up I worry that’s where some of his mistakes come from, not be contained within himself. I think no crowd has the possibility to help him be more collected in his decision making? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuco Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 4 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said: I watch watching college football Thursday and the two teams had to agree on the level of crowd noise to be pumped into the stadium. Since they couldn't agree, I believe there wasn't any noise at all. Anyone know if this is the case for the NFL? The league sends a noise loop to each team that has to be played at an exact decibel level. Fines to teams and responsible personnel and loss of draft picks are the penalty for not adhering. https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1301653002390994945/photo/1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Dkollidas said: Honestly I wonder if it helps Josh. He’s usually SOOO hyped up I worry that’s where some of his mistakes come from, not be contained within himself. I think no crowd has the possibility to help him be more collected in his decision making? I think that is certainly a possibility, and probably not just with Josh. A lot of guys may be affected in a similar manner. For years now, I have said that the AWAY team in NHL playoff hockey games has the advantage, b/c the home team has that crowd going nuts and THEY are the ones who feel the pressure of a need for a win. The away team gets the benefit of thinking they are expected to lose anyway, so all they have to do is go in, lay low, play a steady, low-key game, and try to sneak out a victory...and I think it just puts them in a much better head space than the home team. You seem to be basically making the same point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 The Jets are catching a break with a rookie LT playing his first game, a road game, with no fans. Bills fans are very loud and have been known to draw penalties, time outs, and mistakes. The 12th Man name is there for a reason. The league is letting teams pump in crowd noise but how much, how is it measured, where is it measured, and will the league monitor it real time? If I’m Buffalo I’m pumping in mega noise until told otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I thought crowd noise was a hindrance to offenses. by default it benefits the D. that is all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 With the piped in noise some stadiums might be louder than they would be with just regular fans. I'm just dreading Bills homes games if they overdo the damn tran horm even more than usual (if that's possible) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Bob in STL said: The Jets are catching a break with a rookie LT playing his first game, a road game, with no fans. Bills fans are very loud and have been known to draw penalties, time outs, and mistakes. The 12th Man name is there for a reason. The league is letting teams pump in crowd noise but how much, how is it measured, where is it measured, and will the league monitor it real time? If I’m Buffalo I’m pumping in mega noise until told otherwise. The lack of crowd noise will likely be the one thing that makes this season play significantly different than any other barring any outbreaks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 In theory, home field noise benefits the home team defense as the crowd turns it up when the enemy team has the ball. In the new COVID era, noise will be limited to 70-75 decibels. I presume that means total noise including both piped in noise and any crowd generated noise in stadiums where crowds are allowed. 70 decibels is pretty loud, but noise generated by a sell out crowd is a lot higher. I don't think anybody will find the noise to be disruptive. I don't really understand how a lack of noise can benefit any defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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