BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Exactly why I stayed away from Keenan Allen in Fantasy this year. I was not about to draft him when Tyrod is gonna barely throwing for 100 yards himself Ekeler is the play tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 From the background of this screen cap from Hard Knocks, looks like Lynn starting Tyrod makes sense... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: From the background of this screen cap from Hard Knocks, looks like Lynn starting Tyrod makes sense... Holy crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Holy crap! I mean, god bless anyone who wants to reference our game plans from 2015. "This one here is called let Jay Ajayi run for 240 yards" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 9:31 PM, ALF said: They don't want to put Herbert in there before he is ready Tyrod isn’t ready either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said: In 2 games? Come on dude. The Bills averaged something like 26 PPG with Tyrod as their starter in 2016. I'd love to see that kind of production from such a highly touted group in Allen and Daboll on this message board. check the archives from the EJ era. And where did you get 2 games from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 37 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: In 2 games? Come on dude. The Bills averaged something like 26 PPG with Tyrod as their starter in 2016. I'd love to see that kind of production from such a highly touted group in Allen and Daboll on this message board. PPG can be misleading. I am not hating on Tyrod but you can run up PPG in many ways. If you have a bad defense that is giving up 30+ a game and you get some garbage time TD's to close a 17 point lead to a 10 point lead then your PPG goes up but not in a meaningful way. Tyrod's ppg benefitted from the 2015 and 2016 Rex led defenses being horrid. Josh in 2019 however had a great defense and leads late in games. Leads late means running out the clock and grinding down possessions which leads to deflated point totals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Tyrod and Fitz (who gets a pass because everyone loves him) Time out. Are you saying that Fitz got a pass from us here when he was the Bills QB? Ain't so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Time out. Are you saying that Fitz got a pass from us here when he was the Bills QB? Ain't so No, but in hindsight he certainly has. Fitz is lovable. We all still like the guy and he played QB for the Jets AND Dolphins since being here. Everyone treats him as a goofy gunslinger that just wasn’t quite good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: No, but in hindsight he certainly has. Fitz is lovable. We all still like the guy and he played QB for the Jets AND Dolphins since being here. Everyone treats him as a goofy gunslinger that just wasn’t quite good enough. Yes, but he played for those teams AFTER us, and when we already knew what he was. I love being on the receiving end of those 4th quarter interceptions. So it can be argued that he is still benefiting our team. 😆 Plus, he has said that when reflecting back on his career, through all the teams, he considers himself a Bill first and foremost. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 27 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: No, but in hindsight he certainly has. Fitz is lovable. We all still like the guy and he played QB for the Jets AND Dolphins since being here. Everyone treats him as a goofy gunslinger that just wasn’t quite good enough. I always thought it was funny that Fitz is from Harvard (don’t know if you know that!) but he played the exact opposite way. Made some terrible decisions and would lead block on runs. if Fitz had a real arm, he would have been a top 10 qb. Still had a career better than 85% of qbs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Got any heat maps to go with this take? 29 games of 'run up' PPG is something I'd be happy to have starting Sunday. Especially when it comes with more wins than losses. Still, a portion must do everything possible to rationalize their viewpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, ScottLaw said: It's insane. Im ok with the argument that the offense benefited from a very friendly and effective system implemented by Greg Roman. But the "garbage TDs inflated the PPG" takes is laughable. And I like Allen. I think the lack offense to this point is due to their OC and conservative HC. I think those are fair points. Tyrod was never going to take this team very fair. He just didn’t have the tools to QB a championship team. He still deserves more credit for what he did here. There was a brief moment where he led the best drought era offense. He hasn’t gone on to have much success elsewhere, but had a couple decent seasons with us. People have forgotten how Tyrod was dynamic with legs, and had a great deep ball. I think some of it stems from our last memories of Tyrod with the 2018 team. He was the QB under a new regime who rightfully wanted to move on from him. They gave him the role of a game manager with the mission of not losing games. Taylor excelled in that role, but the brilliant deep throws and running game from his first two seasons as starter basically disappeared. The 2018 team also had an absolutely pathetic supporting cast of skill position players. Tyrod was never a risk taking QB, but it seemed like the Tyrod of old had been coached out of him. I attribute that to your final point regarding the conservative nature of McD involving his offense. Allen has the tools to succeed, hopefully coaching allows our offensive to enter the 21st century. Edited September 10, 2020 by SirAndrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Hopkins Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 8 hours ago, Nextmanup said: It's weird. It is standard operating procedure at this board, now, to mock Tuh-ROD. And yet Josh Allen is heralded as the savior, despite not much to support that. I think it's a question of timing. It's downright hilarious, Allen has the exact same issues that people perceive Tyrod as having. The only major difference is Allen has major ball security issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 To answer the OP... no, he isn’t 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 20, 2020 Author Share Posted September 20, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 11:40 PM, Nextmanup said: Funny how much this applies to our current QB. The same people who vehemently defend him now did the same for Tuh-ROD when he was on the team! On 9/3/2020 at 10:49 AM, C.Biscuit97 said: What a stupid thread. Maybe we should wait until our current qb averages more passing yards than Tyrod did when he was here. i was more than ready to move on from Tyrod but this is just garbage and salty. He is a good guy, decent if unspectacular qb, and helped us end the drought. Why trash him? It’s so weird the double standards people have here. We just had the 23th ranked scoring offense and people are ready to build a statue. Yet, we have a thread trashing the guy who helped us get a 10 and 12th ranked scoring offense. It’s like some people are trapped in some weird echo chamber with the Bills. He’s actually above .500. He is a slightly worse version of Alex Smith. Why he gets trashed is weird to me. And I was hardly a big fan of his. lmao, it’s the Tyrod is better than Allen crew 🤣🤣😂 Man lost his job after 1 week 2 years in a row with 2 different teams 😂🙃😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: To answer the OP... no, he isn’t Unless herbert gets injured, I don't see tyrod starting another game (This comment is more that herbert has looked much better than expected) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 On 9/9/2020 at 8:04 PM, Julio Hopkins said: It's downright hilarious, Allen has the exact same issues that people perceive Tyrod as having. The only major difference is Allen has major ball security issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Seems like the Tyrod vs Josh "debate" is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 9:29 PM, Teddy KGB said: Guess this is Anthony Lynn’s final season. Those poor wide recievers. Tyrod is horrid, any HC that starts him should be fired on the spot. HC's that will probably be fired this year or next are Lynn, Flores and Gase. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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