daz28 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DCOrange said: At this point, it seems like Trump will likely win NC and Alaska and that might be it. Might still pull out Arizona but we'll see. PA, Georgia, and Nevada are basically locks for Biden at this point. There are no locks. The way they count the ballots is all that matters. It's ridiculous the money you could have made in Vegas if you knew this beforehand. You could have beat Vegas 3x. Georgia is starting to look like one, but that's 269 Edited November 6, 2020 by daz28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Just now, daz28 said: There are no locks. The way they count the ballots is all that matters. It's ridiculous the money you could have made in Vegas if you knew this beforehand. You could have beat Vegas 3x. It would appear that I did Bet a ton on Biden winning the popular vote, then when the odds flipped to Trump, I bet on Biden to win the EC and to win Georgia. Might take a little while to make the numbers official, but this election has been very kind to me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 minute ago, DCOrange said: It would appear that I did Bet a ton on Biden winning the popular vote, then when the odds flipped to Trump, I bet on Biden to win the EC and to win Georgia. Might take a little while to make the numbers official, but this election has been very kind to me lol It took steel nuts if you didn't understand how each state intended to count votes. It's almost like it was a racket. If you were any employee of the election board, you'd have know this was how it was goin down. TONS of easy money to be made 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, daz28 said: It took steel nuts if you didn't understand how each state intended to count votes. It's almost like it was a racket. If you were any employee of the election board, you'd have know this was how it was goin down. TONS of easy money to be made I knew roughly how most of the states would be counting their votes (i.e. which ones would favor Trump early and which ones would favor Biden early). I'm not going to lie, I was definitely getting a bit nervous but when the Vegas odds swung like crazy over a bunch of states that Biden didn't actually need, it seemed like a good betting opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Biden pulls ahead in Georgia by 917 votes. Recount coming. If Biden wins Georgia the best Trump can do is tie at 269. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/524752-biden-pulls-ahead-of-trump-in-georgia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 6 hours ago, WideNine said: you keep using that deflecting word - what does that mean to you? Sounds like something legit, but I don't think it is. Incarcerations had been steadily on the rise since the 70's and it takes some really fuzzy math to lay that all at the feet of a Federal crime bill Biden sponsored decades later that focused on federal prison guidance - BTW - Federal prisons comprise only 10% of the overall prison population. Regarding the 1994 sentencing guidance TIS (Truth in Sentencing) violent offenders needed to serve a minimum of 85% of their sentence for states to qualify for federal grant money for prisons. Only 16 states actually changed their TIS guidance and a study by Urban Institute determined most of those states were influenced by ongoing state reform processes not the federal grant money. Either way, this is a pretty tenuous link to the mass incarcerations you want to lay at his feet. well you attempted to change the subject to trump. Sure jails were filling since the 70s and that had to do with nixon and the drug war but then you have the acts biden passed that threw gas on the fire. Here's the main issue here though. Trrump has been labeled as doing doing damage to minorities and being this racist guy who is just out to get them. You have the BLM movement that has talked about how blacks get more time in prison than whites and get arrested more etc. All of which is true. You can look back and go...man I understood why they passed these bills but that's not how it works. They created policy that ended up seriously causing damage to minorities. If you stand back and look objectively at it who has done worse things over the last 30 years to the minority communities in this country? Biden or Trump? It's Biden and there is not even an argument you could make that Trump is in the ballpark. But yet who gets all the blame? Trump. Why is that? So the democrats have elected a guy who in my opinion is a guy responsible for much of the racial divide in this country for the last 25 years with the policies that he has created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: Biden pulls ahead in Georgia by 917 votes. Recount coming. If Biden wins Georgia the best Trump can do is tie at 269. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/524752-biden-pulls-ahead-of-trump-in-georgia Only if you believe there was no ballot fraud in Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, Arizona, Pennsylvania, etc The fraud is so vast, it will be exposed and Biden will not be in the WH 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickleyjones Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Big Gun said: Only if you believe there was no ballot fraud in Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, Arizona, Pennsylvania, etc The fraud is so vast, it will be exposed and Biden will not be in the WH Are you a wizard or something? You have this amazing knowledge that no one else seems to have. Or, you are full of crap. I wonder which? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, dickleyjones said: Are you a wizard or something? You have this amazing knowledge that no one else seems to have. Or, you are full of crap. I wonder which? considering the recent slang definition of "wizard" it could be both.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, Big Gun said: Only if you believe there was no ballot fraud in Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, Arizona, Pennsylvania, etc The fraud is so vast, it will be exposed and Biden will not be in the WH My sarcasm detector hasn't been calibrated in a few hours, care to let me know if it should be going off on this post. The only thing that strikes me here as possible you believe this is that you included Arizona. It's the only state that hasn't been criticized as having been fraud by Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, nkreed said: My sarcasm detector hasn't been calibrated in a few hours, care to let me know if it should be going off on this post. The only thing that strikes me here as possible you believe this is that you included Arizona. It's the only state that hasn't been criticized as having been fraud by Trump. oh...he believes it alright. He believes it HARD. I guess Trump's team could go after Arizona, too...but they simply weren't prepared to do so. That's the state that took them by total surprise. Disputing the election was premeditated by them. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Waking up to see we've given Biden a 1100 vote lead in GA!! Let's Gooooo!! 14 minutes ago, nkreed said: My sarcasm detector hasn't been calibrated in a few hours, care to let me know if it should be going off on this post. The only thing that strikes me here as possible you believe this is that you included Arizona. It's the only state that hasn't been criticized as having been fraud by Trump. No sarcasm detector needed, but your Desperation Detector should be screaming. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Waking up to see we've given Biden a 1100 vote lead in GA!! Let's Gooooo!! No sarcasm detector needed, but your Desperation Detector should be screaming. My desperation detector broke in '16. I have been saying I needed to get a new one since. Thanks! 20 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: oh...he believes it alright. He believes it HARD. I guess Trump's team could go after Arizona, too...but they simply weren't prepared to do so. That's the state that took them by total surprise. Disputing the election was premeditated by them. I don't disagree on the disputing of the election was premeditated. At this point I don't believe that his disputes can lead to a change in these results, however. He will need to find Federal statues to bring these disputes to the Supreme Court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 38 minutes ago, dickleyjones said: Are you a wizard or something? You have this amazing knowledge that no one else seems to have. Or, you are full of crap. I wonder which? give him a break. At this time 4 years ago, us Liberals were holding on to hope with the Jill Stein WI recount. The January inauguration will just be that more sweet. Biden won’t even need to lie about crowd sizes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 The slow painful vote counting leading to the demise of Trump this week has been something special.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 It's not going to be close enough for Trump to win via the courts IMO. He'll have to flip 10's of thousands of votes in several states. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, DCOrange said: It's not going to be close enough for Trump to win via the courts IMO. He'll have to flip 10's of thousands of votes in several states. So he'll have to commit voter fraud to win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 8 hours ago, WideNine said: you keep using that deflecting word - what does that mean to you? Sounds like something legit, but I don't think it is. Incarcerations had been steadily on the rise since the 70's and it takes some really fuzzy math to lay that all at the feet of a Federal crime bill Biden sponsored decades later that focused on federal prison guidance - BTW - Federal prisons comprise only 10% of the overall prison population. Regarding the 1994 sentencing guidance TIS (Truth in Sentencing) violent offenders needed to serve a minimum of 85% of their sentence for states to qualify for federal grant money for prisons. Only 16 states actually changed their TIS guidance and a study by Urban Institute determined most of those states were influenced by ongoing state reform processes not the federal grant money. Either way, this is a pretty tenuous link to the mass incarcerations you want to lay at his feet. Maybe you’re right, but your position is not the widely held one. Biden himself called his sponsored laws mistakes. And his running mate slammed him over the head with the issue in the Democrat debates. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/kamala-harris-disputes-joe-biden-s-claims-about-1994-crime-n1006106 And if reporting is accurate, Biden didn’t get as much support from African Americans as prior Democrat Presidential candidates. The crime bill had some influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 26 minutes ago, DCOrange said: It's not going to be close enough for Trump to win via the courts IMO. He'll have to flip 10's of thousands of votes in several states. It may not be that difficult. The Supreme Court put out one decision prior to the election. — Wisconsin wasn’t allowed to count ballots received after election day — They declined to hear the same issue for PA, but it is still an open case in front of SC. So so if the Court comes back and says that PA can’t count late ballots then that changes things. I’m not sure what the GA, NC, NV, AZ rules are regarding counting ballots received after Election Day. But the point is that Trump wouldn’t have to change votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 9 hours ago, aristocrat said: Imagine trump creating 86 drug act and the 94 bill. What would the media say? How would he be treated? This isn't 1986 or 1994. Times change. People change as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 minute ago, snafu said: It may not be that difficult. The Supreme Court put out one decision prior to the election. — Wisconsin wasn’t allowed to count ballots received after election day — They declined to hear the same issue for PA, but it is still an open case in front of SC. So so if the Court comes back and says that PA can’t count late ballots then that changes things. I’m not sure what the GA, NC, NV, AZ rules are regarding counting ballots received after Election Day. But the point is that Trump wouldn’t have to change votes. Not allowed to count votes received after election day maybe. Biden doesn't need any of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 PA just flipped!! Up 5000!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DrDawkinstein Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 minute ago, DCOrange said: I think that's premature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Big Gun said: Only if you believe there was no ballot fraud in Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, Arizona, Pennsylvania, etc The fraud is so vast, it will be exposed and Biden will not be in the WH Literally everything you posted in the thread earlier was proven wrong. Nice of you to show up again. 306 is what Trump won with in 2016. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, SoTier said: This isn't 1986 or 1994. Times change. People change as well. again, the effects are still being felt from those bills. it's not like they just had an effect on those years. the dems just spent four years labeling trump bad for minorities and turned hypocrites by electing a guy who has a far worse history on minorities. you want to vote for a democrat...all for it. but don't label the right racists or bad for minorities when you go and put this guy in office. Edited November 6, 2020 by aristocrat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I think that's premature. It's really not. All he needed was Pennsylvania and the lead will only continue to grow at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, snafu said: It may not be that difficult. The Supreme Court put out one decision prior to the election. — Wisconsin wasn’t allowed to count ballots received after election day — They declined to hear the same issue for PA, but it is still an open case in front of SC. So so if the Court comes back and says that PA can’t count late ballots then that changes things. I’m not sure what the GA, NC, NV, AZ rules are regarding counting ballots received after Election Day. But the point is that Trump wouldn’t have to change votes. In PA all of those "late ballots" have been sequestered and have not been counted at all. It doesn't change anything. There is a BIG difference between counting those that were received after Tuesday and counting days after the election. The conservative media has purposely been blurring these lines to make it seem like the ballots counted in PA right now have been received AFTER Tuesday. Edited November 6, 2020 by nkreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, DCOrange said: It's really not. All he needed was Pennsylvania and the lead will only continue to grow at this point. And Im all for that. But as a Bills fan, I've learned to stay until the final whistle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, snafu said: It may not be that difficult. The Supreme Court put out one decision prior to the election. — Wisconsin wasn’t allowed to count ballots received after election day — They declined to hear the same issue for PA, but it is still an open case in front of SC. So so if the Court comes back and says that PA can’t count late ballots then that changes things. I’m not sure what the GA, NC, NV, AZ rules are regarding counting ballots received after Election Day. But the point is that Trump wouldn’t have to change votes. SCOTUS didn't want to change the election rules set up by the state legislatures...all Republican BTW. This was planned all along. Because of covid Dems would choose to vote by mail. Those votes would not be allowed to be counted until after election day so Trump would lead on election day. Now that those votes are being counted and Trump's lead is disappearing, he's claiming fraud. It's nonsense but he's betting his followers and the packed courts will buy it. Most aren't that naive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, snafu said: It may not be that difficult. The Supreme Court put out one decision prior to the election. — Wisconsin wasn’t allowed to count ballots received after election day — They declined to hear the same issue for PA, but it is still an open case in front of SC. So so if the Court comes back and says that PA can’t count late ballots then that changes things. I’m not sure what the GA, NC, NV, AZ rules are regarding counting ballots received after Election Day. But the point is that Trump wouldn’t have to change votes. PA has segregated the votes that came in after Election Day. Those votes currently number only a few thousand. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 20 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Not allowed to count votes received after election day maybe. Biden doesn't need any of those. Honestly, I don’t know. Im just waiting until the dust settles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Wait, if Biden is ahead, shouldn’t the ballot counting be stopped immediately? Doesn't that sound nuts? It should if you are in favor of elections 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Wait, if Biden is ahead, shouldn’t the ballot counting be stopped immediately? Doesn't that sound nuts? It should if you are in favor of elections The funny part is, Biden has been ahead the entire time Trump has called for counting to stop. His aides had to explain to him that if they called the election when he tweeted his demand, Biden would still win. Which shows Trump has no real complaint, he's just trying to stir chaos. Most anti-American President in history. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 Abraham Lincoln was elected president on this day 160 years ago ❤️ 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Abraham Lincoln was elected president on this day 160 years ago ❤️ congrats you elected a guy who had the direct opposite effect on minorites than lincoln. not exactly your proudest moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: congrats you elected a guy who had the direct opposite effect on minorites than lincoln. not exactly your proudest moment. Congrats to you too! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, HeHateMe said: The slow painful vote counting leading to the demise of Trump this week has been something special.. I guess you and your friends are going to be real disappointed when 10's of thousands of Biden votes are deemed illegal and Trump goes back to the WH! Edited November 6, 2020 by Big Gun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Just now, Big Gun said: I guess you and your friends are going to be real disappointed when 10's of thousands of Biden votes are deemed illegal an Trump goes back to the WH! Did you take the grape or cherry kool-aid packet? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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