3rdnlng Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 44 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: The guidelines were not followed on a national level. It happened and to deny it makes you sound stupid. Do you have any concept of the extent of presidential power as it pertains to things that are not specifically set out in the constitution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Kemp said: Because it's a pandemic. Even under the best of circumstances, they are tough to deal with. My guess is the problem in California is like most other places. Selfish people refusing to help protect each other. Trump bares a huge part of the blame for making wearing a mask political. Supporters of Trump are far more likely to not wear masks. This is plainly obvious at his rallies. So had he made masks mandatory they likely wouldn’t have changed a thing. So by not making them mandatory he did the right thing by letting Americans choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-town Bills Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: Is there some contest going on for the Lefties to see who can fit the most lies in on a post? What ghost from posters past are you? I am the ghost from your future. The failures have been well-documented. You should read more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 3 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Do you have any concept of the extent of presidential power as it pertains to things that are not specifically set out in the constitution? Awwwww .... poor Covid-19 Donnie!!! He is SOOOOO constrained by his respect for the Constitution that he can't even wear a mask in public to provide a show of support for public health officials but he can threaten to "pressure" states to open schools without regard to soaring rates of infection! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 On 7/10/2020 at 1:25 PM, Kemp said: Right! Let's all give credit to Trump for not coming up with a national policy, not listening to the scientists, and pretending it was no big deal and is now magically gone. Hip, hip, hooray! I'm truly very sorry that your dreams of Trump assuming dictatorial powers over our federal republic haven't come true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmal34 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 An abdication of leadership at the national level. "This is too hard. Push it to the states." The guy is still talking about TV ratings. Go Trump! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-says-samples-imported-salmon-tested-positive-covid-19 Sounds like BS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 6 hours ago, Thurmal34 said: An abdication of leadership at the national level. "This is too hard. Push it to the states." The guy is still talking about TV ratings. Go Trump! So, it's your desire to make Trump king? Throw out the Constitution on a whim? Set up a line of succession for Don Jr., Eric, Ivanka and Barron? Speaking of Barron that makes me think of other royalty you might want like princes, princesses, counts, earls and barons. Every post you make here is worse than the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: So, it's your desire to make Trump king? Throw out the Constitution on a whim? Set up a line of succession for Don Jr., Eric, Ivanka and Barron? Speaking of Barron that makes me think of other royalty you might want like princes, princesses, counts, earls and barons. Every post you make here is worse than the last one. Correct! There simply aren’t enough people in the federal government to administer the response to a pandemic at a state and local level. So the President got them a SUPPLY CHAIN! He can’t get them people. Other than the military he doesn’t have PEOPLE to give them. The lack of how anything works in this country is absolutely stunning! (The Left wants to federalize everything. Just wait until that federal system falls on its face. Then who will they complain to?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Numark3 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: what is more pathetic. This guy having the same tweet come out every day. Or someone who seeks it out and then posts it here every day lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 23 hours ago, Koko78 said: I'm truly very sorry that your dreams of Trump assuming dictatorial powers over our federal republic haven't come true. Making national policy means being a dictator? Pure genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, Kemp said: Making national policy means being a dictator? Pure genius. In violation of the Constitution? You're an idiot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 8 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: So, it's your desire to make Trump king? Throw out the Constitution on a whim? Set up a line of succession for Don Jr., Eric, Ivanka and Barron? Speaking of Barron that makes me think of other royalty you might want like princes, princesses, counts, earls and barons. Every post you make here is worse than the last one. Still whining about Covid Donnie being "powerless" I see. If Trump can fire federal employees, he can mandate they all wear face masks and social distance at work. If Trump can pressure states to open businesses and schools despite rising infection rates, he can pressure states to mandate wearing masks and social distancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Just now, SoTier said: Still whining about Covid Donnie being "powerless" I see. If Trump can fire federal employees, he can mandate they all wear face masks and social distance at work. If Trump can pressure states to open businesses and schools despite rising infection rates, he can pressure states to mandate wearing masks and social distancing. Yes, he can do all those things and you can keep changing the argument too. I think you must be drinking out of the Chadakoin River though to be so ***** up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 8 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Correct! There simply aren’t enough people in the federal government to administer the response to a pandemic at a state and local level. So the President got them a SUPPLY CHAIN! He can’t get them people. Other than the military he doesn’t have PEOPLE to give them. The lack of how anything works in this country is absolutely stunning! (The Left wants to federalize everything. Just wait until that federal system falls on its face. Then who will they complain to?) Bull manure. The POTUS is the head of the Executive branch of the US government so he's the ultimate boss of all federal employees except for those who are employees of Congress or the federal court system, almost 90% of all federal employees. US Office of Personnel Management July 12, 2020: Total US coronavirus cases is 3,292,934 with total deaths of 135,140 for a death rate of 4.1%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburt2625 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Crayola64 said: what is more pathetic. This guy having the same tweet come out every day. Or someone who seeks it out and then posts it here every day lol THIS GUY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Florida! Wow, just wow. DeSantis is such a d-bag Bet Florida wishes they had our Governor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, SoTier said: Bull manure. The POTUS is the head of the Executive branch of the US government so he's the ultimate boss of all federal employees except for those who are employees of Congress or the federal court system, almost 90% of all federal employees. US Office of Personnel Management July 12, 2020: Total US coronavirus cases is 3,292,934 with total deaths of 135,140 for a death rate of 4.1%. Have you figured out yet that our Constitution actually limits the power of the Federal Government, states what it is allowed to do and leaves the rest up to the states? 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Florida! Wow, just wow. DeSantis is such a d-bag Bet Florida wishes they had our Governor. The way Cuomo handled the elderly during this crises he most likely would have been an excellent concentration camp commandant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Florida! Wow, just wow. DeSantis is such a d-bag Bet Florida wishes they had our Governor. Strange how many people flee NY for FL and rarely the other way around. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, SoTier said: Bull manure. The POTUS is the head of the Executive branch of the US government so he's the ultimate boss of all federal employees except for those who are employees of Congress or the federal court system, almost 90% of all federal employees. US Office of Personnel Management July 12, 2020: Total US coronavirus cases is 3,292,934 with total deaths of 135,140 for a death rate of 4.1%. The real denominator is a much larger number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 9 hours ago, keepthefaith said: The real denominator is a much larger number. Really??? The number of total deaths from Covid-19 divided by the number of total Covid-19 cases, which works out to about 4%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 On 7/11/2020 at 9:56 AM, 3rdnlng said: Do you have any concept of the extent of presidential power as it pertains to things that are not specifically set out in the constitution? Do you have any concept the depth of excuses Trumplets like you will go to explain away how horrible Trump is? At every level? But the racism ....the sweet sweet racism....WHITE POWER BABY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) July 12, 2020 -- While Florida set a record of 15,299 new Covid-19 cases in a single day and 35 states saw increases in Covid-19 cases, the White House has started a campaign to discredit Dr. Anthony Fauci. Update: Trump just tweeted that the CDC was lying. Edited July 13, 2020 by SoTier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 hours ago, SoTier said: Really??? The number of total deaths from Covid-19 divided by the number of total Covid-19 cases, which works out to about 4%. If we knew the total number of "cases" we could then calculate a death rate. We don't because we have only tested a fraction of the population and didn't test a lot of people early on who had symptoms. We know the death rate of people under 70 who are reasonably healthy is nil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 15 hours ago, Tiberius said: Florida! Wow, just wow. DeSantis is such a d-bag Bet Florida wishes they had our Governor. I thought you lived in NY? Why would we prefer 32000 over 4300? Our people dying are choosing to go out into crowded Miami and such places yours were killed by an incompetent Governor. We have more elderly than you, more total people than you and at no point in the next 3 years will be even have half your death rate, but please keep telling me how NY is better off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 hours ago, SoTier said: Really??? The number of total deaths from Covid-19 divided by the number of total Covid-19 cases, which works out to about 4%. You actually believe every single American who had Covid has been confirmed? The majority of people who had illness have not been tested. The CDC is estimating the death rate of those who have been infected is well below 1% and it is dropping due to better treatments 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I thought you lived in NY? Why would we prefer 32000 over 4300? Our people dying are choosing to go out into crowded Miami and such places yours were killed by an incompetent Governor. We have more elderly than you, more total people than you and at no point in the next 3 years will be even have half your death rate, but please keep telling me how NY is better off. The high death toll in NYC and NJ was from the 3 million people who arrived from Europe by air “To keep new cases from entering our shores,” Trump said in an Oval Office address on March 11, “we will be suspending all travel from Europe to the United States for the next 30 days.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/one-final-viral-infusion-trumps-move-to-block-travel-from-europe-triggered-chaos-and-a-surge-of-passengers-from-the-outbreaks-center/2020/05/23/64836a00-962b-11ea-82b4-c8db161ff6e5_story.html By March 11 the damage was done. Early on did not know that the elderly and nursing homes were the most vulnerable. The rest of the country had time to learn from NYC and be better prepared. I'm not making any excuses for Cuomo and de Blasio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 29 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: If we knew the total number of "cases" we could then calculate a death rate. We don't because we have only tested a fraction of the population and didn't test a lot of people early on who had symptoms. We know the death rate of people under 70 who are reasonably healthy is nil. "Cases" have always been confirmed cases. It's a hard number, not a combination of confirmed cases plus a reasonable guess at how many infected people there are. That's the Disease Infection Rate I believe. Moreover, define what you mean by "reasonably healthy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 16 hours ago, SoTier said: Bull manure. The POTUS is the head of the Executive branch of the US government so he's the ultimate boss of all federal employees except for those who are employees of Congress or the federal court system, almost 90% of all federal employees. US Office of Personnel Management July 12, 2020: Total US coronavirus cases is 3,292,934 with total deaths of 135,140 for a death rate of 4.1%. Keep moving the goalposts. Now instead of accusing Trump of not leading a country of 330,000,000 you are accusing him of not forcing all "federal employees" to wear masks as if they are equivalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 4 hours ago, TH3 said: Do you have any concept the depth of excuses Trumplets like you will go to explain away how horrible Trump is? At every level? But the racism ....the sweet sweet racism....WHITE POWER BABY! You'd do better if you just copied and pasted "I got nuthin'" for all of your responses. Do you have any clue how silly you appear when someone quotes the constitution and you call them racist because of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, ALF said: Early on did not know that the elderly and nursing homes were the most vulnerable. Are you ***** kidding me with this bullschit? You're seriously trying to pretend that it was a surprise that the most vulnerable population to disease in general was the most vulnerable to this disease? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Are you ***** kidding me with this bullschit? You're seriously trying to pretend that it was a surprise that the most vulnerable population to disease in general was the most vulnerable to this disease? 1 hour ago, ALF said: Early on did not know that the elderly and nursing homes were the most vulnerable. Spot on Koko - Alf had a first class denial...... A sixth grade science project would predict a requirement to put sick people with elderly people was going to be a failure. Flu is a killer of the old and infirm but this was not going to be? Edited July 13, 2020 by Just Joshin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, ALF said: The high death toll in NYC and NJ was from the 3 million people who arrived from Europe by air “To keep new cases from entering our shores,” Trump said in an Oval Office address on March 11, “we will be suspending all travel from Europe to the United States for the next 30 days.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/one-final-viral-infusion-trumps-move-to-block-travel-from-europe-triggered-chaos-and-a-surge-of-passengers-from-the-outbreaks-center/2020/05/23/64836a00-962b-11ea-82b4-c8db161ff6e5_story.html By March 11 the damage was done. Early on did not know that the elderly and nursing homes were the most vulnerable. The rest of the country had time to learn from NYC and be better prepared. I'm not making any excuses for Cuomo and de Blasio I live in Orlando, which Florida also have Miami, which has a huge number of European tourist all year long, especially in the winter months yet we only had less than 10% of NY deaths. The knowledge of age being a risk was widely known by early March because I did not go see my parents in March despite spring break and my daughter's birthday. Lastly we only learned what not to do from NYC, they screwed the pooch royally and your defense of those two shows how disconnected from facts you are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) July 14, 2020: 3,407,798 cases 136,252 deaths States with positivity rates above 25% (1): Arizona 26.46 States with positivity rates above 15% (7): Mississippi 18.88 Florida 18.73 South Carolina 17.53 Texas 16.94 Alabama 16.54 Georgia 15.77 Idaho 15.33 States with positivity rates above 5%: (25) States with positivity rates below 5%: 19 (includes District of Columbia) Edited July 14, 2020 by SoTier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 3 hours ago, SoTier said: July 14, 2020: 3,407,798 cases 136,252 deaths States with positivity rates above 25% (1): Arizona 26.46 States with positivity rates above 15% (7): Mississippi 18.88 Florida 18.73 South Carolina 17.53 Texas 16.94 Alabama 16.54 Georgia 15.77 Idaho 15.33 States with positivity rates above 5%: (25) States with positivity rates below 5%: 19 (includes District of Columbia) Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 9:07 AM, Koko78 said: Are you ***** kidding me with this bullschit? You're seriously trying to pretend that it was a surprise that the most vulnerable population to disease in general was the most vulnerable to this disease? The first US outbreak was at a nursing home in the state of Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 8 hours ago, ColeB said: The first US outbreak was at a nursing home in the state of Washington. Yes, those were the first known deaths in the U.S. They certainly didn't infect themselves so i'm not sure what your point is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 5 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: Yes, those were the first known deaths in the U.S. They certainly didn't infect themselves so i'm not sure what your point is? Just strengthening Keko’s points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 10:32 AM, Buffalo Timmy said: You actually believe every single American who had Covid has been confirmed? The majority of people who had illness have not been tested. The CDC is estimating the death rate of those who have been infected is well below 1% and it is dropping due to better treatments 0.26% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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