Goodell Admits NFL Was Wrong Not to Listen

[cage]

14 minutes ago, Happy said:

 

I have an idea, how about the military pull its funding for the NFL to play the NA at the beginning of the games?  If the NFL cancels "Salute to Service" and playing the NA, then so be it.  Also, politicians, including the President, should refrain from tweeting/making public comments on the NFL.  Get politics completely out of the games.  I've said before, and will say again, keep social justice issues and politics out of sports; they don't mix and most spectators don't want to see these displays.

 

What you're saying just isn't practical.  Beyond sports, most business are also embracing these protests and re-examining their policies.  I'm not going to exalt their past righteousness and they may not get it right this time either.  However, everyone has to recognize that every company, sports league or the entertainment industry is made up of people who have thoughts about this.  To expect that everyone just shuts up and do their jobs when they are surrounded by the affect of these problems is unrealistic.  

 

I work for a Fortune 50 company and my son graduate last year and is working for a much smaller company.  Both companies have given their employees room to express their thoughts, feelings and even encouragement to protest.  My son's company even gave time off to people to attend protests.  The sports industry given their predominant players are African-American is even more affected.   Also beyond the physical component, sports has an enormous mental aspect to it around motivation and intestinal fortitude.  To think that could be just turned off because you don't want to hear it is both selfish and unrealistic.  These protests have a deep multi-generational cause to them and have deep pain for those who have been offended.   Nobody can be a robot and so insular as you suggest.

Edited June 6, 2020 by cage

[thunderingsquid]

37 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Oh really?

 

 

Why do I have a hard time believing that?

 

[Bferra13]

3 minutes ago, thunderingsquid said:

 

That article doesnt make mention of number of violent crimes and or arrests proportionate to race.

[Kirby Jackson]

10 minutes ago, Bferra13 said:

 

That article doesnt make mention of number of violent crimes and or arrests proportionate to race.

...which is the whole “systemic” part of the conversation. That’s, in a lot of ways, what this entire conversation is about. 

[thunderingsquid]

2 minutes ago, Bferra13 said:

 

That article doesnt make mention of number of violent crimes and or arrests proportionate to race.

 

 

I very respectfully disagree with the premise, my brother.

 

Severely empathy challenged white people need to take a deep breath, pause for a minute and look at the whole picture. 

 

It's not about arrest numbers or which minority had the highest rates of excessive force or who's been pulled over the most. 

 

It's the WHOLE THING TOGETHER.   EVERYTHING in the CJ system from everyone that's pulled over or approached on the street on down the line to who's in the joint and who gets let out and who doesn't. 

 

BIG PICTURE

 

There is a strong case to be made that there are TWO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS.   And folks that try to equivocate are a lot of the same OTHERWISE GOOD FOLKS that don't want a kneeler in their town or on their football team.  It is distracting from the big picture IMHO. 

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

...which is the whole “systemic” part of the conversation. That’s, in a lot of ways, what this entire conversation is about. 

[Happy]

18 minutes ago, cage said:

 

What you're saying just isn't practical.  Beyond sports, most business are also embracing these protests and re-examining their policies.  I'm not going to exalt their past righteousness and they may not get it right this time either.  However, everyone has to recognize that every company, sports league or the entertainment industry is made up of people who have thoughts about this.  To expect that everyone just shuts up and do their jobs when they are surrounded by the affect of these problems is unrealistic.  

 

I work for a Fortune 50 company and my son graduate last year and is working for a much smaller company.  Both companies have given their employees room to express their thoughts, feelings and even encouragement to protest.  My son's company even gave time off to people to attend protests.  The sports industry given their predominant players are African-American is even more affected.   Also beyond the physical component, sports has an enormous mental aspect to it around motivation and intestinal fortitude.  To think that could be just turned off because you don't want to hear it is both selfish and unrealistic.  These protests have a deep multi-generational cause to them and have deep pain for those who have been offended.   Nobody can be a robot and so insular as you suggest.

 

You took it several layers deeper than what I suggested.  All I suggested is that the military pull its funding for the NFL, and let the NFL determine if they still want to do Salute to Service as well as play the NA.  I would guess that the NFL would at least not play the NA before games; if so, then so be it.  I think it would be better if the NFL did not play the NA before the games.  Asking politicians to not tweet or make comments on the NFL might be asking too much, though it would be nice.

 

I never said the players should turn off any thoughts or opinions of police, protests, racism, etc.  That would be impossible as people are not machines.

[K-9]

Is that what this has become? A contest between how many whites vs. how many blacks have been subject to police brutality over the years? 
 

WTF!!!

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, BigBillsFan said:

 

He was as wrong now as he was then.

 

If the argument is cops don't kill unarmed whites then look up some stats, they die at a higher rate. Some cops are just bullies and I've been shaken down once badly, and bullied many times for no reason.

 

We should never listen to the mob, they are always wrong.

 

Correction - they die in higher numbers, but not higher rates (per the information I've found, if you have to the contrary feel free to share).  My information says that black people are ~2.7x more likely to die at the hands of police, meaning the per-capita rate must be higher.

 

But you're absolutely correct that people with an inner bully will let it out whenever they think they can.  And because there is a lack of oversight in many police departments (the fox watches the other foxes) and a culture of silence, there is a lack of accountability.

 

1 hour ago, Happy said:

I have an idea, how about the military pull its funding for the NFL to play the NA at the beginning of the games?  If the NFL cancels "Salute to Service" and playing the NA, then so be it.  Also, politicians, including the President, should refrain from tweeting/making public comments on the NFL.  Get politics completely out of the games.  I've said before, and will say again, keep social justice issues and politics out of sports; they don't mix and most spectators don't want to see these displays.

 

Fact.  When Kaep initially did his kneeling bit, the SF 49ers were not going to make it a big issue:

The 49ers issued a statement about Kaepernick's decision: "The national anthem is and always will be a special part of the pre-game ceremony. It is an opportunity to honor our country and reflect on the great liberties we are afforded as its citizens. In respecting such American principles as freedom of religion and freedom of expression, we recognize the right of an individual to choose and participate, or not, in our celebration of the national anthem."

Niners coach Chip Kelly told reporters Saturday that Kaepernick's decision not to stand during the national anthem is "his right as a citizen" and said "it's not my right to tell him not to do something."

The NFL also released a statement, obtained by NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport: "Players are encouraged but not required to stand during the playing of the national anthem."

It wasn't until politicans, including the President, tweeted and made public comments that frothed people up and it became a big "my country right or wrong" test of patriotism.

I agree that politics should ideally be kept out of the games, but the players are human and have human opinions on current events that hit very close to home for many of them.

 

What I'd really like to see is a national consensus on clear measures to at least TRY to address the problem of police accountability for civilian injuries or deaths.  Because then the point would become moot.

 

29 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Is that what this has become? A contest between how many whites vs. how many blacks have been subject to police brutality over the years? 
WTF!!!

 

Steady on, mate.  Misinformation is out there.  Correct it and go on.

[Putin]

17 hours ago, Happy said:

 

Are they going to allow and/or encourage more players to kneel during the Anthem?  If so, will the league (or NFLPA) mandate that Kapernick be brought back?  If my questions are affirmative, oil and water are being mixed by playing the Anthem; I would pull the plug on playing the NA at the beginning of the games if I were Goodell.  The owners have to also keep in mind that they have a going concern with the NFL, and while business is good at this point (revenue wise), it can go downhill.  A balance needs to be reached because nothing is too big to fail.  Social issues and pro sports are not a good combination; people watch and follow sports to get away from the rest of the world for a while.

I could agree more !!

And I’ve said it few times on here about pulling the plug on playing the NA ( IMO ) would be a good idea .. 

can we just get one day a week where we can forget about politics and just relax and enjoy a game of football with a good burger/wings ( no ranch ) and a cold beer ? 
I hope I’m not being selfish 

Go Bills !!!

[Westside]

3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

So in other words, “shut up and dribble”

Yeah, pretty much. I don't give twoshiits about there political beliefs. 

[Sig1Hunter]

17 hours ago, K-9 said:

I think that misses the point. It’s not about players kneeling, it’s about the NFL admitting that they were wrong about there being a systemic problem with police brutality in the black community. 

But... they weren’t. It’s a boogeyman.

[K-9]

14 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Steady on, mate.  Misinformation is out there.  Correct it and go on.

 

I’m perfectly steady, thank you. But it’s hard to sit here and read, in the midst of what’s occurred over the last dozen days or so, some of the stuff posted to justify certain takes on the matter. Imo, that qualifies as a WTF moment if anything does. 

[Kirby Jackson]

7 minutes ago, westside2 said:

Yeah, pretty much. I don't give twoshiits about there political beliefs. 

You might be interested in the work of Laura Ingraham. I think you’ll find yourself nodding along to her musings. If you’re looking for someone to help you silence the voices of an oppressed population she’s the one for you!! 

[K-9]

3 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said:

But... they weren’t. It’s a boogeyman.

The NFL officially thinks otherwise as evidenced by their statement yesterday. 

[Happy]

16 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

It wasn't until politicans, including the President, tweeted and made public comments that frothed people up and it became a big "my country right or wrong" test of patriotism.

I agree that politics should ideally be kept out of the games, but the players are human and have human opinions on current events that hit very close to home for many of them.

 

What I'd really like to see is a national consensus on clear measures to at least TRY to address the problem of police accountability for civilian injuries or deaths.  Because then the point would become moot.

 

I mentioned that it would be good if politicians stopped making public statements (incl tweets) about the NFL.  But like players, politicians are human too, though it is actually their job to comment on social issues.  Again, I would like  to see them not comment on pro sports like I would like to see players not display their social issue opinions on game day.

 

A national consensus and police accountability would be good.  Not all police are good guys; I went to college in a small mid Atlantic, mid southern town.  The local police force was highly regarded and never questioned.  That leads to abuses.

 

[Putin]

12 minutes ago, westside2 said:

Yeah, pretty much. I don't give twoshiits about there political beliefs. 

+ 1 

[Sig1Hunter]

5 minutes ago, K-9 said:

The NFL officially thinks otherwise as evidenced by their statement yesterday. 

Yeah, but I don’t care what the NFL thinks. Just like I don’t care what the mob thinks. The NFL apparently does. I suspect they, along with every other business pandering to the mob, will feel the impact of said pandering when Americans with more than a pile of mashed potatoes between their ears start talking with their wallets.

I care what objective facts say. Objective facts say: boogeyman.

BOO!

Edited June 6, 2020 by Sig1Hunter

[Westside]

2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

You might be interested in the work of Laura Ingraham. I think you’ll find yourself nodding along to her musings. If you’re looking for someone to help you silence the voices of an oppressed population she’s the one for you!! 

How about having an honest conversation. It's not police killing blacks, it's blacks killing blacks that's the problem 

Blaming it on white people is such a cowardly response. 

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, westside2 said:

How about having an honest conversation. It's not police killing blacks, it's blacks killing blacks that's the problem 

Blaming it on white people is such a cowardly response. 

Oh, I didn’t know. ??‍♂️

3 minutes ago, Putin said:

+ 1 

 

1 minute ago, westside2 said:

How about having an honest conversation. It's not police killing blacks, it's blacks killing blacks that's the problem 

Blaming it on white people is such a cowardly response. 

Do you guys get pissed off when the NFL players wear pink to fight cancer? I mean, they should just shut and play right? 

[K-9]

Just now, Sig1Hunter said:

Yeah, but I don’t care what the NFL thinks. Just like I don’t care what the mob thinks. The NFL apparently does. I suspect they, along with every other business pandering to the mob, will feel the impact of said pandering when Americans with more than a pile of mashed potatoes between their ears starts talking with their wallets.

I care what objective facts say. Objective facts say: boogeyman.

BOO!

Seems to be more your boogeyman more than anyone else’s. 
 

BOO!? Really? 

[Cripple Creek]

3 hours ago, FireChans said:

The NBA admit Hong Kong exists yet or still banning people with Free Hong Kong posters from arenas?

It doesn't take perfection to be light years in front of the NFL.

[Sig1Hunter]

Just now, K-9 said:

Seems to be more your boogeyman more than anyone else’s. 
 

BOO!? Really? 

Nope. The only thing that concerns me is the gaggle of lemmings following each other right off of the cliff based on a totally false narrative comprised of anecdotes and hurt feelings. If you want to fix the systemic issues that have oppressed minorities, protest those who implement those policies and have done so for decades. 

[Putin]

6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

You might be interested in the work of Laura Ingraham. I think you’ll find yourself nodding along to her musings. If you’re looking for someone to help you silence the voices of an oppressed population she’s the one for you!! 

Speaking for my self I’m always ready to hear a voice of an oppressed person or people I don’t consider L James being one of them 

5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Oh, I didn’t know. ??‍♂️

 

Do you guys get pissed off when the NFL players wear pink to fight cancer? I mean, they should just shut and play right? 

I don’t get pissed off , and I didn’t know fighting cancer was political and divisive 

[Kirby Jackson]

Just now, Putin said:

Speaking for my self I’m always ready to hear a voice of an oppressed person or people I don’t consider L James being one of them 

LeBron James grew up with a 16 year-old single mother with drug problems and an ex-con father. He moved something like 30 times before going to live with a family at age 9 to have a better chance at making it. If you don’t believe LeBron James has seen and lived the worst of it I don’t know what to tell you. 

[GoBills808]

5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Oh, I didn’t know. ??‍♂️

 

Do you guys get pissed off when the NFL players wear pink to fight cancer? I mean, they should just shut and play right? 

You're talking to people who aren't aware of the irony in claiming to be against politicizing sports and yet are fans of a league whose product is basically a 3 hour military advertisement.

[Kirby Jackson]

6 minutes ago, Putin said:

Speaking for my self I’m always ready to hear a voice of an oppressed person or people I don’t consider L James being one of them 

I don’t get pissed off , and I didn’t know fighting cancer was political and divisive 

So to be clear taking a stand on cancer = good, taking a stand on racism = bad? So you really don’t want them to just play? You want them to stand up to causes that you support. Got it

[Putin]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

So to be clear taking a stand on cancer = good, taking a stand on racism = bad? So you really don’t want them to just play? You want them to stand up to causes that you support. Got it

I support the stand on racism and cancer my mother is a cancer survivor , 

I just want to support my Buffalo Bills on a Sunday and if possible for few hours 

( if it’s ok with you ) not to be reminded what a racist country my parents brought me to as a teenager 

[Westside]

25 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Oh, I didn’t know. ??‍♂️

 

Do you guys get pissed off when the NFL players wear pink to fight cancer? I mean, they should just shut and play right? 

Yeah, that's totally the same thing. Thanks for playing

 

14 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

So to be clear taking a stand on cancer = good, taking a stand on racism = bad? So you really don’t want them to just play? You want them to stand up to causes that you support. Got it

Wow, so if I don't believe the same things you do, I'm a racist? Got it.

[oldmanfan]

15 minutes ago, Putin said:

I support the stand on racism and cancer my mother is a cancer survivor , 

I just want to support my Buffalo Bills on a Sunday and if possible for few hours 

( if it’s ok with you ) not to be reminded what a racist country my parents brought me to as a teenager 

I recognize different feelings on this.  But having some players kneel for the 2 minutes to protest does not ruin the game for me.  

[K-9]

9 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said:

Nope. The only thing that concerns me is the gaggle of lemmings following each other right off of the cliff based on a totally false narrative comprised of anecdotes and hurt feelings. If you want to fix the systemic issues that have oppressed minorities, protest those who implement those policies and have done so for decades. 

That’s what this is about. It isn’t just about Kaepernick or BLM or your brotherhood at this point.

 

Based totally on anecdotes? I don’t think the witnessed and video recorded murder of a citizen by a law enforcement officer who saw fit to kneel on the neck of his victim for nearly nine minutes, in spite of the victim’s repeated pleas to breathe, qualifies as anecdotal. Makes one wonder what happens at the hands of unfit enforcement officers when cameras aren’t around. If you can’t see that as a fair question, then I submit your own bias clouds your judgment. 
 

Then again it’s just easier to say we are all lemmings who need to have these atrocities explained to us. 

[Kirby Jackson]

23 minutes ago, Putin said:

I support the stand on racism and cancer my mother is a cancer survivor , 

I just want to support my Buffalo Bills on a Sunday and if possible for few hours 

( if it’s ok with you ) not to be reminded what a racist country my parents brought me to as a teenager 

I lost my mom to brain cancer in 2015. I understand. I appreciate them raising awareness. I’ve never experienced racism but I appreciate them bringing awareness to that as well. These men have a voice and a platform. Our country/world has major problems. If we bury our head in the sand or avoid the issues we don’t do anything to move forward. 
 

I also don’t understand how someone else’s views on the world can hinder your game-watching experience? Someone explain that to me please. I just don’t get it. Whether I agree with someone or not it doesn’t influence my experience as a fan in any way. When it’s 3rd and 6 I’m not thinking about a guy’s tweet from 4 days earlier. 

17 minutes ago, westside2 said:

Yeah, that's totally the same thing. Thanks for playing

 

Wow, so if I don't believe the same things you do, I'm a racist? Got it.

Explain how it’s different. You said earlier that you wanted them to play and not bring their beliefs into it. I’d like to think that the same amount of people support cancer as racism, zero. When is it okay for someone to speak up? When you’re comfortable with their message? It’s an honest question. What is “divisive” about protesting racism? Who is it that is supporting a different part of that message? 

Edited June 6, 2020 by Kirby Jackson

[FireChans]

42 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

It doesn't take perfection to be light years in front of the NFL.

By light years, you mean massive hypocrites, right?

[ColoradoBills]

1 hour ago, Happy said:

 

You took it several layers deeper than what I suggested.  All I suggested is that the military pull its funding for the NFL, and let the NFL determine if they still want to do Salute to Service as well as play the NA.  I would guess that the NFL would at least not play the NA before games; if so, then so be it.  I think it would be better if the NFL did not play the NA before the games.  Asking politicians to not tweet or make comments on the NFL might be asking too much, though it would be nice.

 

I never said the players should turn off any thoughts or opinions of police, protests, racism, etc.  That would be impossible as people are not machines.

 

I too believe that your points (especially about the anthem) should be considered by the NFL Owners/Leadership as an option.

A lot of this stems from the NFL's choices in the past.  In a sense the NFL has created this issue.

 

Since around the time of the 1st Gulf War, through 9/11 and continuing till today the NFL has "literally" wrapped itself up in the American Flag.

It's got to a point where I comment to friends during "Veteran's Day" football weekend that I see no difference in the celebration of the

United States Military as I see in Week 2 in September.  I'm a vet and it's getting pretty over the top.

 

For some of the younger people reading this, I started to go to football games during the Vietnam War and none of what you see today was happening.

Heck, my father and I would stand for the National Anthem but a very significant portion of the crowd barely acknowledged it.

 

I have commented on these thoughts in other posts.  There is a time and place for National Pride but I see no mandatory need to have it displayed

at the current level for Sunday football.  The NFL needs to reconsider it's involvement with all this and decide what it truly wants to pursue.

 

Personally I would rather the NFL stop all this and just play football BUT IF it chooses to continue to immerse itself in American Nationalism and Patriotism

it better go all the way.  That choice (if it's made) negates their right to hide behind the banner of "we are a private company" and in turn it would

allow the "rights" of the players to peacefully protest as they see fit.

 

The NFL has to decide what it wants to do, not you, not me, not the President.  I truly hope the owners are considering what I am saying.

[HappyDays]

6 hours ago, Kmart128 said:

the socks he wore showed he is full of hate and he is no better than bad cops.

 

You think wearing socks with cartoon pig cops is the same thing as police brutality?

[starrymessenger]

Saying that the Commish's statement is too little too late (for a number of reasons) is true IMO but somewhat misses the mark. On the strong balance of probabilities the point is that it is devoid of content, in other words, is insincere. RG is nothing but the agent of the owners, who, like them or leave them, are not stupid people They know the way the wind is blowing at this moment. So they are not so much people of principle than weathervanes. They are businessmen whose interest is the value of the brand in which they are so heavily invested.

So, as far as I'm concerned, they are all "unforgiven". Fromm on the other hand was maybe just being a dumb punk kid. If his apology is sincere I would let him be. If it's good enuf for Leslie Frazier and his teammates it's good enuf for me. The quality of mercy is not strained.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 hours ago, Kmart128 said:

Kneeling should still be frowned upon. I dont care what a player does. Donate to charity rebuilding communities, use your press conference and interviews to address your concerns, have specialty cleets that have symbols. Protest and share opinions if you want. But if you kneel during anthem then you are just dividing the country. You may be free to do protest that way but it doesnt make it right. And people still have right to critize for it. And when people criticize it just separates the country even more. This needs to be a time for unity... and like it or not many people will find kneeling disrespectful. Especially people who put their lives on the line everyday. That will just continue to divide our country and will be counter productive to what they want to accomplish.

 

Perhaps the point should be considered, that if a symbol represents pride to some, but oppression and disenfranchisement to others, the country is already divided?

 

Perhaps the oppression and disenfranchisement should be the focus of what to address.

 

Look at it this way: if the actions and situations that arouse the urge to protest are real (and we've all seen the videos and heard the reports), then doesn't your line of thought just amount to "NIMBY"?  It's like saying "OK, I acknowledge the America you experience is different than the America I experience, but just don't bear witness to that in front of me, in a way I find uncomfortable, because when I see it, now THAT's dividing the nation."

[Putin]

22 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I lost my mom to brain cancer in 2015. I understand. I appreciate them raising awareness. I’ve never experienced racism but I appreciate them bringing awareness to that as well. These men have a voice and a platform. Our country/world has major problems. If we bury our head in the sand or avoid the issues we don’t do anything to move forward. 
 

I also don’t understand how someone else’s views on the world can hinder your game-watching experience? Someone explain that to me please. I just don’t get it. Whether I agree with someone or not it doesn’t influence my experience as a fan in any way. When it’s 3rd and 6 I’m not thinking about a guy’s tweet from 4 days earlier. 

Explain how it’s different. You said earlier that you wanted them to play and not bring their beliefs into it. I’d like to think that the same amount of people support cancer as racism, zero. When is it okay for someone to speak up? When you’re comfortable with their message? It’s an honest question. What is “divisive” about protesting racism? Who is it that is supporting a different part of that message? 

I’m sorry you lost you’re mom I can’t even imagine how painful that must be may she 
R I P ? . 
There is nothing divisive about fighting racist I’m with you on that 110% !!! that’s not what I met , 

where we obviously disagree  is whether or not National Anthem is the right place 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 hours ago, Kmart128 said:

Its true. He was offered multiple deals but turned them down cause he thought he was a star and in actuality he was mediocre QB. And the last couple seasons he was horrendous. And yes he did hate police... the socks he wore showed he is full of hate and he is no better than bad cops. He is a hateful person who looks to divide the country by race and political affiliation.

 

It's true that he turned down deals because he thought he deserved more

 

I don't think one can assert it's true he "did hate police".  I think it's more likely the socks and the Che Guevera shirt fall in the category of "stupid s*** young people say and do" which is how I class Fromm's texts at this point.  We can have different opinions on that, it's fine

 

But really...."no better than bad cops"?  Wearing tacky socks with an insulting image is "no better" than kneeling on someone's neck for 8 minutes or watching someone kneel in what you must know, if you didn't sleep through training, is an injurious potentially fatal proceeding?  No better than bursting into the wrong home without knocking or announcing themselves as police, leading the home occupant to believe he was defending himself from home invasion and exercising his 2nd amendment rights of self defense with a legally licensed firearm?  No better than return fire spraying the home with bullets (22 shots), 8 of which shot a young EMT working with covid-19 and killed her? 

 

Wearing tacky socks no better than that? 

 

 

[JaCrispy]

18 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:

i would hope the league is preparing to make more overtures than just that, but it’s a slim hope.

Do you have anything specious mind?

 

[Edit: did you mean, "do you have anything specific in mind?"  -Talking paperclip]

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, K-9 said:

Is that what this has become? A contest between how many whites vs. how many blacks have been subject to police brutality over the years? 

 

I have felt this way for many years. Police brutality is not just a race issue. I recognize that black people get the worse end. But it affects everyone to some degree. I know too many people that have had bad run ins with cops where things escalated quickly for no good reason. The viral video from right here in Buffalo was a 75 year old white man. Tear gas is banned in warfare but it is used regularly by police officers in America to disperse peaceful protests.

 

So I think the people saying "white people get abused by the police too" are missing the mark. It should make you angry that anyone in America can suffer at the hands of a government employee and never get justice.