Teams can Begin to Reopen Facilities

[TroutDog]

https://apnews.com/990f1c5b63606d213fb4e0c30334f29f
 

This is a promising sign. While I doubt we’ll have a ‘normal’ season, hopefully we have some type of season. 

[Punching Bag]

27 minutes ago, TroutDog said:

https://apnews.com/990f1c5b63606d213fb4e0c30334f29f
 

This is a promising sign. While I doubt we’ll have a ‘normal’ season, hopefully we have some type of season. 

 

Pretty arbitrary and when they are just made up stuff. How is 75 a magic number?  It depends on size of facility, how it is subdivided, etc. 

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—Until further notice from the NFL, teams may have no more than 50% of their staff in the facility, not to exceed 75 people. If a club wants to deploy staff to more than one location, all locations must implement the same health and safety protocols, and the combined number of employees at all locations can’t exceed 75.

 

Need to start looking at rules like Billicheat and find holes.  When called on it say "I misunderstood" unless there are no consequences say "I am sorry" and just alter plans slightly. 

 

Employees is a legal definition.  Change some from employees to contractors (like cleaning staff) and they do not count.

 

A number of employees will work from home like they have been.  One day a week have people working at facility work from home so those working at home can go to office for meetings. 

Implement shifts and have some work days and some work later shift.

 

[machine gun kelly]

48 minutes ago, TroutDog said:

https://apnews.com/990f1c5b63606d213fb4e0c30334f29f
 

This is a promising sign. While I doubt we’ll have a ‘normal’ season, hopefully we have some type of season. 

Thanks TD.  At least it’s a first step.  We’ll be lucky to have training camp in July.  I agree it is a gues we might have a season, but can’t believe we’ll have fans, even at 25%.

[TroutDog]

18 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

eed to start looking at rules like Billicheat and find holes.  When called on it say "I misunderstood" unless there are no consequences say "I am sorry" and just alter plans slightly. 

 

Employees is a legal definition.  Change some from employees to contractors (like cleaning staff) and they do not count.

 

A number of employees will work from home like they have been.  One day a week have people working at facility work from home so those working at home can go to office for meetings. 

Implement shifts and have some work days and some work later shift

I see what you’re saying but as this phase includes no coaches, I don’t see it as a major issue, honestly. 
 

In addition, there is value in ‘playing by the rules’ in my opinion. 

[Punching Bag]

Just now, TroutDog said:

I see what you’re saying but as this phase includes no coaches, I don’t see it as a major issue, honestly. 
 

In addition, there is value in ‘playing by the rules’ in my opinion. 

 

Coaches are at facility during this phase developing playbooks, etc but probably can be part of employees going in once a week.

[Don Otreply]

16 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Pretty arbitrary and when they are just made up stuff. How is 75 a magic number?  It depends on size of facility, how it is subdivided, etc. 

 

Need to start looking at rules like Billicheat and find holes.  When called on it say "I misunderstood" unless there are no consequences say "I am sorry" and just alter plans slightly. 

 

Employees is a legal definition.  Change some from employees to contractors (like cleaning staff) and they do not count.

 

A number of employees will work from home like they have been.  One day a week have people working at facility work from home so those working at home can go to office for meetings. 

Implement shifts and have some work days and some work later shift.

 

You can bet your backside that employees means anyone your company hires to be in the building, be it hiring contractors or direct hires. No way around that. 

[Don Otreply]

24 minutes ago, TroutDog said:

I see what you’re saying but as this phase includes no coaches, I don’t see it as a major issue, honestly. 
 

In addition, there is value in ‘playing by the rules’ in my opinion. 

Agree, advocating an organization wide systematic cheating scheme is not something to aspire too. 

Edited May 16, 2020 by Don Otreply

[SoCal Deek]

Old people need to stay home. This won’t impact the players but it will impact some of the coaching staff. I’m not sure who the oldest Bills positional coach is. Leslie Frazier?

[atlbillsfan1975]

Baby steps back to normalcy. 

[Beast]

9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Old people need to stay home. This won’t impact the players but it will impact some of the coaching staff. I’m not sure who the oldest Bills positional coach is. Leslie Frazier?

Leslie Frazier is in great physical condition. He will most likely be fine if he caught it.

 

I wonder if California teams will even be able to operate with the clown show they have running things out there.

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, Binghamton Beast said:

Leslie Frazier is in great physical condition. He will most likely be fine if he caught it.

 

I wonder if California teams will even be able to operate with the clown show they have running things out there.

It will be interesting. Pressure is starting to mount everywhere. Last time I checked there was virtually NOBODY even in a hospital anywhere in Northern California with Covid 19. Los Angeles is the only county with any significant numbers. 

[TroutDog]

39 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Coaches are at facility during this phase developing playbooks, etc but probably can be part of employees going in once a week.

From the article and Goodells letter: “No members of the coaching staff can return to the facility under the first phase of reopening. “This is important to ensure equity among all 32 clubs,” Goodell wrote.”

[Punching Bag]

Thanks, I did have time to read entire article.

[TroutDog]

36 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Baby steps back to normalcy. 

You nailed it!!! ? 

[LabattBlue]

OBD will not be part of this until WNY meets the criteria for NYS Phase 1 requirements. At the earliest, the end of May.  

[LabattBlue]

30 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

Are all states operating under the same CDC guidelines for reopening?

Don't know.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

We all knew they'd reopen. We know they can play games without fans. What we don't know is what happens in the fall. Will they remain open during the predicted 2nd wave? Will fans ever be able to attend games?

 

I don't know why anyone is excited to start a season without fans. Fans are so important to football. Home field means so much in football. 

[SCBills]

12 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

We all knew they'd reopen. We know they can play games without fans. What we don't know is what happens in the fall. Will they remain open during the predicted 2nd wave? Will fans ever be able to attend games?

 

I don't know why anyone is excited to start a season without fans. Fans are so important to football. Home field means so much in football. 

Who knows.. all these “what-ifs”... that can’t be what prevents us from moving forward.  The Southeast has been re-opening for weeks now and is doing ok.  
 

No fans certainly is not ideal, but it would be better than no season. 

[TigerJ]

I'm assuming that with players the league is going to enforce a common policy across the league so no team can gain an advantage over other teams (Buffalo) with a hyper careful state government.

[SCBills]

Bundesliga has officially re-started.  
 

First big team-sport domino to fall...

[atlbillsfan1975]

Let’s not turn this into another Covid thread. Can’t we all hope for the best? Hope that each day brings more news like this? We all desperately want the Bills season to take place. Let’s just soak in a little positive news. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

44 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Who knows.. all these “what-ifs”... that can’t be what prevents us from moving forward.  The Southeast has been re-opening for weeks now and is doing ok.  
 

No fans certainly is not ideal, but it would be better than no season. 

Fans or nothing. Football without fans is basically practice.

[TroutDog]

22 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

"NFL teams can begin reopening their facilities on Tuesday if state and local governments will allow it."

 

 

So....not really.

Most states are opening...including NY. While they all may not be open on that date, it is a good indicator in my opinion. 

[SoCal Deek]

32 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Bundesliga has officially re-started.  
 

First big team-sport domino to fall...

You beat me to it! Just watched the end of the first game. No fans but the players are out there. Here we go people! Game on!

[Beast]

 

 

 

 

On 5/16/2020 at 9:38 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

We all knew they'd reopen. We know they can play games without fans. What we don't know is what happens in the fall. Will they remain open during the predicted 2nd wave? Will fans ever be able to attend games?

 

I don't know why anyone is excited to start a season without fans. Fans are so important to football. Home field means so much in football. 

 

Because I like watching football? 

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, TroutDog said:

Most states are opening...including NY. While they all may not be open on that date, it is a good indicator in my opinion. 

 

It's up to the Governor, as I said.  And Cuomo say Erie Co is not reopening.

[tumaro02]

3 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

OBD will not be part of this until WNY meets the criteria for NYS Phase 1 requirements. At the earliest, the end of May.  

Medical facilities in NY are open yet the Bills treatment facility is not open despite the NFL ruling a player may go to a team facility if the player is undergoing medical treatment or rehabbing an injury. Is that fair to the Bills for NY to deny them essential business status?

[TroutDog]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

It's up to the Governor, as I said.  And Cuomo say Erie Co is not reopening.

Not yet but once they hit the required marks and OBD can open. Kind of my point. 

[TroutDog]

5 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

t's really up to the people.  If everyone ignores him and refuses then what can he do?

This was not intended to be a political thread. It’s about the NFL having a plan to open. 
 

Thanks. 

[Fires]

I posted how Florida was open to host teams  in lockdown yesterday and was downvoted and deleted. Hopefully the Billls can rehab some old injuries at least. OUR Bills need pre season assessment done and cannot sit around while other teams are doing the same. Go Bills!

[TroutDog]

1 hour ago, Fires said:

I posted how Florida was open to host teams  in lockdown yesterday and was downvoted and deleted. Hopefully the Billls can rehab some old injuries at least. OUR Bills need pre season assessment done and cannot sit around while other teams are doing the same. Go Bills!

I’m not sure about the first part but I agree about the need of a preseason. Thankfully, Josh has been connecting with other skill position players. 
 

Where there’s a will, there’s a way!

[Hapless Bills Fan]

12 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Old people need to stay home. This won’t impact the players but it will impact some of the coaching staff. I’m not sure who the oldest Bills positional coach is. Leslie Frazier?

I would say the highest risk guy is Daboll.  When an OLman refers to your “fat face” filling up his FaceTime screen .....

[billsfan89]

Seems promising, the key having at the very least empty stadium games is going to be having teams being fully operational by training camp in a little over two months. 

[major]

2 hours ago, TroutDog said:

Ok...Huh?

In a memo sent to the 32 teams Friday by Commissioner Roger Goodell and obtained by The Associated Press, he stressed that the clubs must be “in compliance with any additional public health requirements in their jurisdiction, and have implemented the protocols that were developed by (league medical officer) Dr. (Allen) Sills and distributed to all clubs on May 6.”. 
 

My point is that restaurants can’t even meet compliance with public health requirements in my jurisdiction, even though protocols are mapped out. It’s up to each business to follow and enforce the protocols. You think each team will adhere to these guidelines? Doubtful 

[Fires]

23 hours ago, Bockeye said:

Downvoted and deleted?? Please tell more Fires. must have missed this. 
 

Great move by FL. 
 

I looked and the topic was moved to the ppp forum. I wasn't meaning it to be political. Just pointing out that Florida is open to sports teams, and consider them essential services. 

[machine gun kelly]

11 hours ago, TroutDog said:

I’m not sure about the first part but I agree about the need of a preseason. Thankfully, Josh has been connecting with other skill position players. 
 

Where there’s a will, there’s a way!

TD- It’s funny you bring this up as it reminded me of a conversation this week on Movin The Cains (NFLR).  Kirwan stated we’ll see now that players have an opportunity to get together in AZ or FL and shows initiative.  He went as far to say not just the QB’s and WRs, but also Lineman and all of the other units.  I liked how he basically challenged leaders on the teams stating we’ll see who steps up as the coaches aren’t allowed to say anything.  I loved it and there are remote areas in FL like Ormond Beach away from the larger cities where there are large fields.  I hope Edmunds, Hyde, Hughes, Dawkins, and others were listening.  The other thing is Gyms are opening at 50% occupancy tomorrow so they can workout as well as work on their playbook.  Those who are the most prepared will come out of the gates fast this year.

[Big Turk]

Well...technically they can only be open for rehabbing players and no coaches can be there so not sure how much of any of an advantage they are getting.

[Bockeye]

8 hours ago, Fires said:

I looked and the topic was moved to the ppp forum. I wasn't meaning it to be political. Just pointing out that Florida is open to sports teams, and consider them essential services. 

Thanks Fires. 
 

Tough to separate sports news and covid these days. Seems too tempting for some not to jump in with a political comment.  PPP is the place for folks to debate and there are some good ones there. 

Edited May 17, 2020 by Bockeye

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

I heard something crazy but I cannot confirm if it is true. I heard the military is not letting anyone who has had Covid 19 enlist. I can only assume if this is true that is does permanent damage to your lungs that might be degenerative. If a player got this during the season or in practice you are going to see multi million dollar lawsuits fly.

[TroutDog]

20 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

I heard something crazy but I cannot confirm if it is true. I heard the military is not letting anyone who has had Covid 19 enlist. I can only assume if this is true that is does permanent damage to your lungs that might be degenerative. If a player got this during the season or in practice you are going to see multi million dollar lawsuits fly.

I don’t know about the military portion but the lung damage portion has absolutely been reported. That’s a very valid point...glad you brought it up. 
 

It will be interesting to see if the NFLPA reacts to all of this. And then, if players get it and can’t play anymore, how will the NFL allow those teams to compensate for the loss of players...and how will it impact the cap?