GunnerBill Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 8 hours ago, njbuff said: Yeah, they are almost the same QB. And remember the kind of talent USC had at that time that made Leinart a high first round pick? Tua might have a better NFL arm than Tua, but I honestly worry about Tua's ability to take a hit also. I don't think they are the same Quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 11 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: If I had been in on these for the past 10 years you would get to see the Bills hire me as Co-GM with Beane or at least assistant to Beane. I covet the same kind of players he does, Kuechly, McCaffrey, we'd be on the same page for sure. That being said this year there was nobody I am drooling over quite like the past 10 years. Ruggs III, Jeudy, other than that I'm kind of bored. Had there been an OT like Lewan this year I definitely wouldn't have hesitated. No love for Lamb? For me Jeudy and Lamb are 1a and 1b. Don't get me wrong Ruggs is extremely talented. Just not 4th overall imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 51 minutes ago, Gambit said: No love for Lamb? For me Jeudy and Lamb are 1a and 1b. Don't get me wrong Ruggs is extremely talented. Just not 4th overall imo. I absolutely love Lamb! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 10 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: With the 7th pick the Carolina Panthers select Jeffrey Okudah, cornerback, THE Ohio State University. The Panthers have Okudah as the 3rd best player in this draft. He’s a long, athletic, rangy corner with All-Pro potential. After losing James Bradberry we have a need at the position. We didn’t expect him to be there but are thrilled that he was. We view him as a cornerstone to our rebuild moving forward. @Logic and the Arizona Cardinals are now on the clock If Okudah falls to 7th I would be stunned frankly. Since I have been doing this (2014) the only corner I had a higher grade on was Jalen Ramsey. I have Okudah just ahead of where I graded Lattimore who was in turn just ahead of Tre White and Marlon Humphrey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: If Okudah falls to 7th I would be stunned frankly. Since I have been doing this (2014) the only corner I had a higher grade on was Jalen Ramsey. I have Okudah just ahead of where I graded Lattimore who was in turn just ahead of Tre White and Marlon Humphrey. Why would you be stunned? Even if GMs were so high on him as you to he can easily fall to 7. I'd say 2 QBs and Young are lock, with 3rd QB being very likely. That leaves only 2 guys to be taken sooner than Okudah. It is very likely that at least one team decides to take franchise OT rather than CB. Then throw in some random pick like Ferrell last year and Okudah goes 7. Lattimore who you mention went 11, after John Ross (!). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said: Why would you be stunned? Even if GMs were so high on him as you to he can easily fall to 7. I'd say 2 QBs and Young are lock, with 3rd QB being very likely. That leaves only 2 guys to be taken sooner than Okudah. It is very likely that at least one team decides to take franchise OT rather than CB. Then throw in some random pick like Ferrell last year and Okudah goes 7. Lattimore who you mention went 11, after John Ross (!). Because there are two generational level prospects in this draft in my mind. Chase Young and Jeff Okudah. There are lots of other potential elite guys - the three receivers a couple of the OTs and the two QBs. But if Okudah drops to 7 there are going to be teams ahead of that that reach for need and end up seriously regretting it. That said you are right it does happen. There was no way Ed Oliver should have dropped to #9 either, but he did. That stunned me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 32 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Because there are two generational level prospects in this draft in my mind. Chase Young and Jeff Okudah. There are lots of other potential elite guys - the three receivers a couple of the OTs and the two QBs. But if Okudah drops to 7 there are going to be teams ahead of that that reach for need and end up seriously regretting it. That said you are right it does happen. There was no way Ed Oliver should have dropped to #9 either, but he did. That stunned me too. I tend to agree here Gunner without soundly like too much of a homer. Okudah and Young to me are the 2 guys in this draft that are “idiot proof.” They get off the bus as high level NFL players with a chance to be elite. There’s pretty much no chance that either is worse than really good IMO (and I’ve seen every snap that they’ve played). When you add in the fact that they play premium positions it’s hard to imagine falling outside of the top 5. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) Re: Okudah, I’ve seen a few people mention they think Henderson could end up being the #1 CB taken Edited April 3, 2020 by DCOrange Still waking up and had a pretty big typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Re: Okudah, I’ve seen a few people mention they think He Derain could end up being the #1 CB taken If someone takes Henderson ahead of Okudah they should be shot instantly. Better to put them out of their misery now than be made to look an idiot over the passage of time. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 the raiders have made derek carr available for a trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: the raiders have made derek carr available for a trade Trades not in scope this version of the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: Trades not in scope this version of the draft. jon gruden makes the rules here sir. sorry didn't realize no trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Gambit said: No love for Lamb? For me Jeudy and Lamb are 1a and 1b. Don't get me wrong Ruggs is extremely talented. Just not 4th overall imo. I love Lamb also but Ruggs III speed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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No_Matter_What Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Because there are two generational level prospects in this draft in my mind. Chase Young and Jeff Okudah. There are lots of other potential elite guys - the three receivers a couple of the OTs and the two QBs. But if Okudah drops to 7 there are going to be teams ahead of that that reach for need and end up seriously regretting it. That said you are right it does happen. There was no way Ed Oliver should have dropped to #9 either, but he did. That stunned me too. I am not arguing that Okudh is elite. I don't watch college and even if I did I'd have no clue ? I completely rely on opinion of local experts (with you being among them in my eyes) I am just saying that based on my experience with last 4 drafts I'd say there is 15-25% chance that Okudah in fact falls out of top 6. Therefore I won't be stunned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 With the 9th pick in the 2020 NFL Draft the Jacksonville Jaguars select Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa. Thought about going WR here but Wirfs talent, versatility to play all positions on the line and athleticism was too good to pass up at #9. The Browns are on the clock @Virgil 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 At this point, if they could, the Jets would be looking to trade back 3-4 spots and pick up an extra 3rd, as they are 99% certain on who the Browns will select (if they don't they will grab him), and they have 4 players they would be very, very happy with after the Browns' selection.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 With the 10th pick in the 2020 NFL Draft the Cleveland Browns select Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville. The Browns need to protect Mayfield and while RT is good with Conklin, LT is a glaring gap. Need and value meet at 10 with OT. I was expecting to have no choice here but Thomas is also on the board. While both good, Becton appears to have a higher ceiling. The Jets and @TPS are on the clock. 12 minutes ago, TPS said: At this point, if they could, the Jets would be looking to trade back 3-4 spots and pick up an extra 3rd, as they are 99% certain on who the Browns will select (if they don't they will grab him), and they have 4 players they would be very, very happy with after the Browns' selection.... Did I pick your OT? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, DCOrange said: Re: Okudah, I’ve seen a few people mention they think Henderson could end up being the #1 CB taken Those few people are crazy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 The Jets were 100% correct. With the only other legitimate LT worthy of #11 gone (they would've moved Fant to RT), the Jets want to give Darnold a legitimate #1 and they get to flip a coin to choose, in their view, one of the 2 best in the draft. With the 11th pick in the 2020 NFL draft, the NY Jests pick (in the voice of Cary Grant), jerry Jeudy, Jeudy, Jeudy, WR Alabama. Jeudy gives the Jets a true #1 (breshad who?) and turns what was a pedestrian receiving core into One that rivals the Bills as top in the AFCE. @aristocrat and the Raiders are on the clock... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said: I am not arguing that Okudh is elite. I don't watch college and even if I did I'd have no clue ? I completely rely on opinion of local experts (with you being among them in my eyes) I am just saying that based on my experience with last 4 drafts I'd say there is 15-25% chance that Okudah in fact falls out of top 6. Therefore I won't be stunned. I am always stunned by stupidity. Even when it is predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, TPS said: The Jets were 100% correct. With the only other legitimate LT worthy of #11 gone (they would've moved Fant to RT), the Jets want to give Darnold a legitimate #1 and they get to flip a coin to choose, in their view, one of the 2 best in the draft. With the 11th pick in the 2020 NFL draft, the NY Jests pick (in the voice of Cary Grant), jerry Jeudy, Jeudy, Jeudy, WR Alabama. Jeudy gives the Jets a true #1 (breshad who?) and turns what was a pedestrian receiving core into One that rivals the Bills as top in the AFCE. @aristocrat and the Raiders are on the clock... This could be a real outcome draft day. They do really need more line help however - their FA signings are middle of the road. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 The raidahs need weapons for Derek Carr and Gruden loves the wr class. the Las Vegas Raiders with the 12th pick in the 2020 nfl draft, select Ceedee Lamb wr Oklahoma the 49ers and @Reed83HOF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Don't blow this for me San Fran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 30 minutes ago, TPS said: The Jets were 100% correct. With the only other legitimate LT worthy of #11 gone (they would've moved Fant to RT), the Jets want to give Darnold a legitimate #1 and they get to flip a coin to choose, in their view, one of the 2 best in the draft. With the 11th pick in the 2020 NFL draft, the NY Jests pick (in the voice of Cary Grant), jerry Jeudy, Jeudy, Jeudy, WR Alabama. Jeudy gives the Jets a true #1 (breshad who?) and turns what was a pedestrian receiving core into One that rivals the Bills as top in the AFCE. @aristocrat and the Raiders are on the clock... Really expected OL here & I was going to nab Jeudy with this pick since having a true #1 WR is huge for SF and I like his fit. Keeping with the WR theme, we are taking CeeDee Lamb to help prop up our crappy QB@DCOrange is now on the clock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 If the draft went like this Herbert would be available. Would they still trade pick 13? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: Really expected OL here & I was going to nab Jeudy with this pick since having a true #1 WR is huge for SF and I like his fit. Keeping with the WR theme, we are taking CeeDee Lamb to help prop up our crappy QB@DCOrange is now on the clock buddy i just took him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Just now, aristocrat said: buddy i just took him Oof. Only reasonable result here is a forfeited pick for the 49ers. Hate to see it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Really expected OL here & I was going to nab Jeudy with this pick since having a true #1 WR is huge for SF and I like his fit. Keeping with the WR theme, we are taking CeeDee Lamb to help prop up our crappy QB@DCOrange is now on the clock If Becton was there, then that was the pick. Didn't want to use 11 on a RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, aristocrat said: buddy i just took him You have to forgive @Reed83HOF, he's still blinded by his rage that he couldn't trade up for WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, aristocrat said: buddy i just took him jesus I didn't even see your post - it wasn't there! 4 minutes ago, Virgil said: You have to forgive @Reed83HOF, he's still blinded by his rage that he couldn't trade up for WR it literally didn't even show aristo's pick Edited April 3, 2020 by Reed83HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said: jesus I didn't even see your post - it wasn't there! it literally didn't even show aristo so virgul was correct that you were in fact blinded lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Just now, aristocrat said: so virgul was correct that you were in fact blinded lol oddly enough yes he was correct apparently! Javon Kinlaw will be our pick. I like him better as a prospect over Henderson (CB is another need for us), but we need to replace Buckner at a cheaper contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: oddly enough yes he was correct apparently! Who are you taking instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Just now, Virgil said: Who are you taking instead? Look above sweetie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Look above sweetie What the ***** witchcraft?! I even quoted it and it didn't show me your pick. It doesn't show you edited it either. I don't know how that is possible. Back to hell demon!! The Bucs @DCOrange is on the clock Edited April 3, 2020 by Virgil 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Virgil said: What the ***** witchcraft?! I even quoted it and it didn't show me your pick. It doesn't show you edited it either. I don't know how that is possibly. Back to hell demon!! Are you now blinded as well? I'm on my work computer and actually in the office today IDK if the interwebs are screwy here or what 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Look above sweetie 11 minutes ago, Virgil said: What the ***** witchcraft?! I even quoted it and it didn't show me your pick. It doesn't show you edited it either. I don't know how that is possible. Back to hell demon!! The Bucs @DCOrange is on the clock Just a heads-up, looks like SDS is having issues with the board after an upgrade has gone wrong. Should make your job even more... interesting, Virgil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 @Reed83HOF had to ruin my plans with the 14th pick. So be it. With the 14th pick in the NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select OT Andrew Thomas from the University of Georgia. A 3-year starter in college, he should immediately slot into the starting lineup for the Bucs to help keep Tom Brady clean in the pocket. @Golden Goat and the Denver Broncos are now on the clock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 4 OT's already and the top 3 WR's gone. Crazy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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