The China Problem

[LeviF]

On 10/18/2021 at 9:23 AM, dpberr said:

I think that's "fake news" in a way.  I doubt the US was completely unaware it happened, nor were the Chinese the first to do it.  Just like with Iran, there are people with real hard-ons for conflict with China.  The US has the majority of intel satellites and it's got a unmanned space shuttle doing something in orbit.   They knew.   

 

My guess is the US has already achieved this milestone, and the Chinese may be second.   

 

When it comes to China, I'm more concerned that the West, with some weak leaders, is 100% completely distracted with Covid and internal shenanigans and the Chinese will take their shot for Taiwan and the islands.  

The implications of the story being somewhat fake news are more startling than if it’s all true as stated. 

[Irv]

Maybe Demented Biden should beg China to back off Taiwan and The South China Sea like he begged OPEC to produce more oil.  What a disaster.  What an idiot. 

 

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[dpberr]

4 hours ago, LeviF said:

The implications of the story being somewhat fake news are more startling than if it’s all true as stated. 

 

I absolutely think it was tossed out there on purpose by the West.  It's impossible to second source or verify.  To what specific aim, who knows.  

 

The same intelligence infrastructure knew of the unsafe things going on at the Wuhan lab a year before anyone started reporting on it.  Not a peep about it.  No out of the blue breaking news about bad guys doing bad things in a lab in the middle of China.

 

But...allegedly a test of a super secret bad guy hypersonic missile landing a specific 24 miles off the mark - read all about it!

 

 

[LeviF]

30 minutes ago, dpberr said:

 

I absolutely think it was tossed out there on purpose by the West.  It's impossible to second source or verify.  To what specific aim, who knows.  

 

The same intelligence infrastructure knew of the unsafe things going on at the Wuhan lab a year before anyone started reporting on it.  Not a peep about it.  No out of the blue breaking news about bad guys doing bad things in a lab in the middle of China.

 

But...allegedly a test of a super secret bad guy hypersonic missile landing a specific 24 miles off the mark - read all about it!

 

 

That’s a fair assessment. My thinking is along the line of this is to cover for the fact that they know the PLA stole the tech from US contractors and subcontractors. 

[ALF]

Latest US military hypersonic test fails

 

A booster stack, which is the rocket used to accelerate the projectile to hypersonic speeds, failed and the test of the projectile, the hypersonic glide body, could not proceed, the statement said.

 

Because the rocket failed the Pentagon was not able to test the hypersonic glide body, which is the key component needed to develop a hypersonic weapon.

 

Two weeks ago, Russia claimed to have successfully tested a submarine-launched hypersonic missile for the first time, dubbed the Tsirkon. Earlier this summer, Russia said it had fired the same missile from a warship.

 

Over the weekend, the Financial Times reported that China had successfully tested a hypersonic glide vehicle capable of carrying a nuclear weapon. They reported the glide vehicle was launched from an orbital bombardment system.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/21/politics/us-hypersonic-test-fails/index.html

Edited October 22, 2021 by ALF

[ALF]

Biden says US will defend Taiwan if China attacks

 

President Joe Biden said the US would defend Taiwan if China attacked, in an apparent departure from a long-held US foreign policy position.

 

But a White House spokesman later told some US media outlets that his remarks did not signify a change in policy.

 

The US has a law which requires it to help Taiwan defend itself.

 

But it has been deliberately vague about what it would actually do if China were to attack Taiwan, in what is known as "strategic ambiguity".

China has yet to respond to Mr Biden's comments.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-59005300

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/22/yes-biden-says-us-would-defend-taiwan-against-china

 

China will not like that

Edited October 22, 2021 by ALF

[B-Man]

 

Chinese President Xi Jinping has used a virtual summit with US counterpart Joe Biden to warn that encouraging Taiwanese independence would be "playing with fire".

 

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-59301167

 

 

[VaMilBill]

On 10/19/2021 at 5:24 PM, dpberr said:

 

I absolutely think it was tossed out there on purpose by the West.  It's impossible to second source or verify.  To what specific aim, who knows.  

 

The same intelligence infrastructure knew of the unsafe things going on at the Wuhan lab a year before anyone started reporting on it.  Not a peep about it.  No out of the blue breaking news about bad guys doing bad things in a lab in the middle of China.

 

But...allegedly a test of a super secret bad guy hypersonic missile landing a specific 24 miles off the mark - read all about it!

 

 

Plus, we all know China can’t do anything original and probably copied our weapon. 

[VaMilBill]

I don’t know how China always gets away with this crap. If I were the WTA head I’d cut this tournament. 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/11/20/tennis/peng-shuai-video-clip-spt-intl/index.html

 

This is obviously a small item that the Chinese do. If you look in the new Topgun movie, the patches on the back of Tom Cruises jacket is supposed to have a Taiwanese flag on it but Hollywood changed it to appease China. 
 

Obviously, the genocide with the Uigher Muslims is an atrocity that’s being ignored world wide including by the NBA who choose the be social justice warriors but don’t care at all about human rights if it’s gonna cost them money. That’s why I think every single NBA athlete is a joke. No credibility. 

All these people seem to look the other way when it’s China because they don’t want to upset them and lose money. I say F$&@ that!

 

I really think China is evil. I think they are willing to kill millions, if not billions, of innocents for world power. And I think everyone should be training themselves, consciously and subconsciously, to hate China like we did the Soviet Union during the Cold War.  

Edited November 21, 2021 by VaMilBill

[Doc]

3 hours ago, VaMilBill said:

I don’t know how China always gets away with this crap. If I were the WTA head I’d cut this tournament. 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/11/20/tennis/peng-shuai-video-clip-spt-intl/index.html

 

This is obviously a small item that the Chinese do. If you look in the new Topgun movie, the patches on the back of Tom Cruises jacket is supposed to have a Taiwanese flag on it but Hollywood changed it to appease China. 
 

Obviously, the genocide with the Uigher Muslims is an atrocity that’s being ignored world wide including by the NBA who choose the be social justice warriors but don’t care at all about human rights if it’s gonna cost them money. That’s why I think every single NBA athlete is a joke. No credibility. 

All these people seem to look the other way when it’s China because they don’t want to upset them and lose money. I say F$&@ that!

 

I really think China is evil. I think they are willing to kill millions, if not billions, of innocents for world power. And I think everyone should be training themselves, consciously and subconsciously, to hate China like we did the Soviet Union during the Cold War.  

 

They're living on borrowed time.  In about 15 years they'll be devastated by the number of old people they have and a nation filled mostly with men.  Meanwhile there are so many more countries who will unite against them if they try anything provocative that they'll have no way of winning.

[VaMilBill]

4 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

They're living on borrowed time.  In about 15 years they'll be devastated by the number of old people they have and a nation filled mostly with men.  Meanwhile there are so many more countries who will unite against them if they try anything provocative that they'll have no way of winning.

I’d hope so. First step would be to cut off all trade with them via ships

[Doc]

8 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:

I’d hope so. First step would be to cut off all trade with them via ships

 

No need to hope: it's what's coming.  You can't institute a one-child policy (one that encourages female infanticide) for 30 years and not have it eventually devastate the country.  They'll have more than halved their population (some of the children will have died before reaching child-bearing age) and again the majority of them are males who will need mates, who will be hard to find, while they'll have more than double the number of elderly who will need to be supported.

 

And cutting off trade is one tool as they can't begin to feed all of their people on their own.

[yall]

41 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

No need to hope: it's what's coming.  You can't institute a one-child policy (one that encourages female infanticide) for 30 years and not have it eventually devastate the country.  They'll have more than halved their population (some of the children will have died before reaching child-bearing age) and again the majority of them are males who will need mates, who will be hard to find, while they'll have more than double the number of elderly who will need to be supported.

 

And cutting off trade is one tool as they can't begin to feed all of their people on their own.

I've been saying this since they became a net importer of food some time ago. That's never a good position to be in.

[ALF]

China claims US will pay ‘unbearable cost’ for aiding Taiwan

President Biden had said the US has a commitment to aid Taiwan

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/china-claims-us-will-pay-unbearable-cost-taiwan

 

The World Relies on One Chip Maker in Taiwan, Leaving Everyone Vulnerable

Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co.’s dominance poses risks to the global economy, amid geopolitical tensions and a major chip shortage

 

Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. TSM -0.82% ’s chips are everywhere, though most consumers don’t know it.

The company makes almost all of the world’s most sophisticated chips, and many of the simpler ones, too.

 

They’re in billions of products with built-in electronics, including iPhones, personal computers and cars—all without any obvious sign they came from TSMC, which does the manufacturing for better-known companies that design them, like Apple Inc. and Qualcomm Inc

 

Its dominance leaves the world in a vulnerable position, however. As more technologies require chips of mind-boggling complexity, more are coming from this one company, on an island that’s a focal point of tensions between the U.S. and China, which claims Taiwan as its own.

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-world-relies-on-one-chip-maker-in-taiwan-leaving-everyone-vulnerable-11624075400

[Irv]

Demented Biden's foreign policy.  Bend over, and take it.

Edited December 31, 2021 by Irv

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

In my rankings of libs that displayed common sense and became likeable to me during the Chinese Takeover of the planet Silver is in the top 5 maybe 3.  It's not a long list but they're there.   

 

Facts Nate.  

 

I won't be watching 1 second of any highlights of the Covid Prison Games. 

Edited February 3, 2022 by Big Blitz

[Albwan]

 

good commie nancy.

Edited February 4, 2022 by Albwan

[LeviF]

On 2/2/2022 at 10:11 PM, Big Blitz said:

In my rankings of libs that displayed common sense and became likeable to me during the Chinese Takeover of the planet Silver is in the top 5 maybe 3.  It's not a long list but they're there.   

 

Facts Nate.  

 

I won't be watching 1 second of any highlights of the Covid Prison Games. 

 

The Olympic games are being conducted in a genocidal security state but Joe Rogan is the principal threat to democracy as it currently stands.

[Big Blitz]

 

[Wacka]

During WWII there were Avis Annie and Tokyo Rose.

[Big Blitz]

NBC took the video down 

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

 

 

That's exactly what I said in the Spotify thread about the CCP Social Credit System 

Edited February 7, 2022 by Big Blitz

[LeviF]

So glad the adults are back in the room. 

[Demongyz]

17 minutes ago, LeviF said:

So glad the adults are back in the room. 

It was interfering in their ability to get quality drivers and side chicks.

[LeviF]

Beware even video that purports to accurately represent something happening in China. I have severe doubts that the CCP has lost control over their state internet in Shanghai. 

[B-Man]

 

 

Interesting.

 

 

VIDEO: Is China Screwed?

 

 

A few highlights:

 

They were going shrink in half by 2100. “Then they realized that they had been overcounting people for some time.”

 

Then new data moved the date moved up to 2070.

And now they’re saying it will be 2050.

 

“For that to be true, the Chinese would have overcounted the population by 100 million.” And all of those missing people are of childbearing age.

 

Their population actually peaked 15 years ago.

 

Much more at the link.

 

https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=51172

 

 

 

[snafu]

46 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Interesting.

 

 

VIDEO: Is China Screwed?

 

 

A few highlights:

 

They were going shrink in half by 2100. “Then they realized that they had been overcounting people for some time.”

 

Then new data moved the date moved up to 2070.

And now they’re saying it will be 2050.

 

“For that to be true, the Chinese would have overcounted the population by 100 million.” And all of those missing people are of childbearing age.

 

Their population actually peaked 15 years ago.

 

Much more at the link.

 

https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=51172

 

 

 

Their window is almost closed.

And it isn’t like they’ve made friends the world over.  I’m sure there’s no influx of child-rearing immigrants flooding their shores.

Oh well.  
 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

Interesting.

 

 

VIDEO: Is China Screwed?

 

 

A few highlights:

 

They were going shrink in half by 2100. “Then they realized that they had been overcounting people for some time.”

 

Then new data moved the date moved up to 2070.

And now they’re saying it will be 2050.

 

“For that to be true, the Chinese would have overcounted the population by 100 million.” And all of those missing people are of childbearing age.

 

Their population actually peaked 15 years ago.

 

Much more at the link.

 

https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=51172

 

Been saying this for a couple years now.  My belief is that Fauci-Wuhan virus was engineered (fact) to release at a later date "accidentally"/"from a wet market" to kill off their elderly population who will overwhelm their country in about 15 years (fact).

[Precision]

5 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Interesting.

 

 

VIDEO: Is China Screwed?

 

 

A few highlights:

 

They were going shrink in half by 2100. “Then they realized that they had been overcounting people for some time.”

 

Then new data moved the date moved up to 2070.

And now they’re saying it will be 2050.

 

“For that to be true, the Chinese would have overcounted the population by 100 million.” And all of those missing people are of childbearing age.

 

Their population actually peaked 15 years ago.

 

Much more at the link.

 

https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=51172

 

 

 

I wonder how many of the missing are due to China's one child policy and preference for boys over girls along with the common practice of infanticide?  A friend of mine and his wife couldn't have children.  They decided to adopt a couple of Chinese girls.  When they went to visit the adoption centers in China they found that they were full.....of little girls.  No boys, just girls!  They said the adoption was fairly painless because the girls weren't wanted anyway.

 

I wonder demographically how much this hurts China as well.  You certainly won't have enough females for every male so there will be a large single male population.  I can't believe all these single males are going to lead to a happy populace.  I would think this would severely restrict future population growth as well.

 

A couple of interesting links......

 

How China's One-Child Policy Led To Forced Abortions, 30 Million Bachelors

 

China has a history of female infanticide spanning 2000 years.

 

 

 

[B-Man]

Virginia Democratic Senator Mark Warner Admits, “Trump Was Right”

 

According to WJLA-TV, a local ABC news affiliate based in Washington, D.C.:

 

“Top lawmakers on the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence are urging the Federal Trade Commission to formally investigate TikTok and its parent company.

‘Like so many of these social media platforms, there’s a good positive side, but there is a dark underbelly if exploited,’ Virginia U.S. Senator Mark Warner told 7News.”

 

“’This was one where President Trump was right,’ said Warner. ‘There was a challenge with TikTok and it has been one of the fastest growing companies in the whole world. And President Trump was right on this with it. This was a security threat. It was a privacy threat.’ Which is concerning for all TikTok users, including kids, Senator Warner warns.”

 

Let’s forget about the fact that President Trump was ‘right’ about most things, even though his style may have rubbed some folks the wrong way, and let’s just pause and take a minute to appreciate Sen. Warner’s candidness and honesty. And as Warner points out, the root cause of the issue isn’t the company itself, it’s the Chinese government.

 

“’TikTok is controlled by a Chinese company, Bytedance,’ said Warner. ‘Chinese law requires that any company in China owes its first allegiance to the Communist Party of China, not to the shareholders.’”

 

https://wjla.com/news/local/donald-trump-mark-warner-marco-rubio-tiktok-chinese-government-user-data-chinese-communist-party-ftc-federal-trade-commision-hack

 

 

 

[ALF]

As China gains footholds in America, Congress is ‘sleeping at the wheel,' former Pentagon official says
Former top Pentagon staffer accuses Defense Department officials of downplaying Chinese threat to cover for 'incompetence,' 'complacency'

 

Congress must be "sleeping at the wheel" for allowing China to purchase nearly 200,000 acres of agricultural land on U.S. soil, a former top Air Force official told Fox News.

 

A Chinese food manufacturer, the Fufeng Group, recently purchased 370 acres of farmland 16 miles from the Grand Forks Air Force Base in North Dakota, which houses a highly sensitive drone program. Military officials and lawmakers on both sides of the aisle raised concerns after the purchase, but Nicolas Chaillan, who was previously the Air Force's chief software officer, said he has not seen Congress take action to stop such acquisitions.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/china-gains-footholds-america-congress-is-sleeping-at-the-wheel-former-pentagon-official-says
 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

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[aristocrat]

 

[Doc]

Manchurian...

[B-Man]

 

 

Not a surprise.

 

 

Japan considers deploying long-range missiles to counter China: Report

 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/japan-considers-deploying-long-range-missiles-counter-china-report-2891116

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

China’s economy is slowing, its population aging. That could make it dangerous.

 

Two foreign policy scholars, Hal Brands of Johns Hopkins and Michael Beckley of Tufts, have offered a frightening thesis: China’s leaders know their power is about to diminish, and that will make them more likely to take risks in the short run — to invade Taiwan, for example.

 

China “is losing confidence that time is on its side,” they write in a recent book, “Danger Zone: The Coming Conflict With China.”

 

“China will have strong incentives to use force against its neighbors … even at risk of war with the United States,” they warn. The “moment of maximum danger,” they suggest, is this decade: the 2020s.
A chorus of other China scholars have disagreed.

 

First, they note, there’s no evidence that Xi or other leaders believe their power is declining; they continue to predict the rise of China and the decline of the West.

 

Even if China’s economy slows down, it will be growing — still the second-largest in the world.

 

“Countries can muddle along with a great deal of poor economic performance and still be a major force in international politics,” noted Aaron L. Friedberg of Princeton, author of “Getting China Wrong.”

 

Besides, Xi and other Chinese leaders have a strategy for solving their economic challenge, he argued. “They see advances in technology as the key to solving all their problems,” he told me. “That’s how they plan to achieve higher productivity and reasonably high economic growth.”

 

https://www.stripes.com/opinion/2022-09-12/china-economy-slowing-population-aging-7305305.html

 

 

 

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[Chef Jim]

32 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

China’s economy is slowing, its population aging. That could make it dangerous.

 

Two foreign policy scholars, Hal Brands of Johns Hopkins and Michael Beckley of Tufts, have offered a frightening thesis: China’s leaders know their power is about to diminish, and that will make them more likely to take risks in the short run — to invade Taiwan, for example.

 

China “is losing confidence that time is on its side,” they write in a recent book, “Danger Zone: The Coming Conflict With China.”

 

“China will have strong incentives to use force against its neighbors … even at risk of war with the United States,” they warn. The “moment of maximum danger,” they suggest, is this decade: the 2020s.
A chorus of other China scholars have disagreed.

 

First, they note, there’s no evidence that Xi or other leaders believe their power is declining; they continue to predict the rise of China and the decline of the West.

 

Even if China’s economy slows down, it will be growing — still the second-largest in the world.

 

“Countries can muddle along with a great deal of poor economic performance and still be a major force in international politics,” noted Aaron L. Friedberg of Princeton, author of “Getting China Wrong.”

 

Besides, Xi and other Chinese leaders have a strategy for solving their economic challenge, he argued. “They see advances in technology as the key to solving all their problems,” he told me. “That’s how they plan to achieve higher productivity and reasonably high economic growth.”

 

https://www.stripes.com/opinion/2022-09-12/china-economy-slowing-population-aging-7305305.html

 

 

 

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Weird. What you quoted from the article seems to say just the opposite of the headline you posted. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Westside]

3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Weird. What you quoted from the article seems to say just the opposite of the headline you posted. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Did you read it? It clearly states its aging population could make china even more dangerous.