whatdrought Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) Found this NFL.com article interesting. They've been having some of their player analysts put together lists of the top 10 players at any position who will be on the market (be it draft, free agency, etc) this offseason. Cool to see Levi listed here: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001102237/article/ten-cornerbacks-worth-pursuing-in-free-agency2020-nfl-draft Quote Wallace, who just finished his second NFL season, started all 16 games as the Buffalo Bills' CB2 opposite Tre'Davious White in 2019, allowing an opposing passer rating of 85.5. He recently had surgery to repair a shoulder injury suffered midway through last season but is expected to be ready to go this fall. I know there is almost zero chance Wallace, as an exclusive rights free agent, will end up with any team but the Bills. But I wanted to keep him here because, in my opinion, he's one of the best man CBs on this list. I wonder how much of a compliment this is when you factor in the author calling him one of the best man Corners on the list... Am I missing something here? For what it's worth, here is James Jones' take on the same idea only aimed at WR's: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001102058/article/ten-wide-receivers-worth-pursuing-in-free-agency2020-nfl-draft Interestingly enough, he has Antonio Gandy-Golden listed as the 3rd best WR in the draft. (or at least it would seem that way) which is a truly unique take on the situation. Edited February 18, 2020 by whatdrought 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I would def bring Levy and Johnson back......but I also would def draft a guy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Quick, trade him for a #1 ? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Seems like his fall off in play coincided with his shoulder injury. He was one of the best corners in football early on in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 And he will be back very cheap on his EFRA Tender 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: And he will be back very cheap on his EFRA Tender This is one of those rules that the players should fight for in the new CBA. These undrafted guys really take it up the pooper... Hopefully he sees a good chunk from that fund that pays guys like him that severely outplay their contracts 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: This is one of those rules that the players should fight for in the new CBA. These undrafted guys really take it up the pooper... Hopefully he sees a good chunk from that fund that pays guys like him that severely outplay their contracts I mean they were undrafted. I would say 700k is a lot better than what they would be making working as a Manager at Geico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 37 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Found this NFL.com article interesting. They've been having some of their player analysts put together lists of the top 10 players at any position who will be on the market (be it draft, free agency, etc) this offseason. Cool to see Levi listed here: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001102237/article/ten-cornerbacks-worth-pursuing-in-free-agency2020-nfl-draft I wonder how much of a compliment this is when you factor in the author calling him one of the best man Corners on the list... Am I missing something here? For what it's worth, here is James Jones' take on the same idea only aimed at WR's: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001102058/article/ten-wide-receivers-worth-pursuing-in-free-agency2020-nfl-draft Interestingly enough, he has Antonio Gandy-Golden listed as the 3rd best WR in the draft. (or at least it would seem that way) which is a truly unique take on the situation. The thing is, Levi is not really on the market. He’s an ERFA, meaning if we make him a qualifying tender of 1 year at league minimum, he’s still ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: The thing is, Levi is not really on the market. He’s an ERFA, meaning if we make him a qualifying tender of 1 year at league minimum, he’s still ours. Hall mentioned as much in his write up, but still listed him on the list of 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: Hall mentioned as much in his write up, but still listed him on the list of 10. So he wrote a list of FA who really aren’t FA? I guess in the event we don’t tender Wallace it’s fair. So here’s a question: how much did we play zone vs man this past season? It seems like for a while, we were playing a lot of man as our “fix” to the leaky run D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So he wrote a list of FA who really aren’t FA? I guess in the event we don’t tender Wallace it’s fair. So here’s a question: how much did we play zone vs man this past season? It seems like for a while, we were playing a lot of man as our “fix” to the leaky run D. Yep. I don't really know... I thought we played mostly Zone and rarely man, but I am not one known for scheme expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 28 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: I mean they were undrafted. I would say 700k is a lot better than what they would be making working as a Manager at Geico. just sucks that a guy who goes undrafted can totally outplay a guy who was drafted, but just will not get paid to his value for at least 3 years. No doubt peters is still a sore subject here, but guy did what he needed to do to get market value... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: just sucks that a guy who goes undrafted can totally outplay a guy who was drafted, but just will not get paid to his value for at least 3 years. No doubt peters is still a sore subject here, but guy did what he needed to do to get market value... It sucks at every job. Its not unusual though. Plenty of people show up and show out at their job on a daily basis, most of them dont make 700k a year. I get what you're saying but he also didnt have to say yes to signing the UDFA contract he was given. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: just sucks that a guy who goes undrafted can totally outplay a guy who was drafted, but just will not get paid to his value for at least 3 years. No doubt peters is still a sore subject here, but guy did what he needed to do to get market value... Levi Wallace made more than last years 6th and 7th round draft picks. UDFAs pay is pretty much in line with a 7th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 He obviously doenst watch him either.. of of the best man corners? I like Levi but he is so slow he has to play 7 yards off guys and then gets beat with his cushion.. man is totally not his strength lol He is decent in McDermott's quarters coverage last season tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: I mean they were undrafted. I would say 700k is a lot better than what they would be making working as a Manager at Geico. I would say, the millions he would be making on the open market is a lot better than the 700k, before taxes/agent fees, etc., he'll make on the tender. The team options placed in rookie deals are nothing more than "cheap" labor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: It sucks at every job. Its not unusual though. Plenty of people show up and show out at their job on a daily basis, most of them dont make 700k a year. I get what you're saying but he also didnt have to say yes to signing the UDFA contract he was given. How dare you bring logic and reason onto this board. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Levi is a decent player at great value. Hopefully he gets healthy and helps this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 17 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: I would say, the millions he would be making on the open market is a lot better than the 700k, before taxes/agent fees, etc., he'll make on the tender. The team options placed in rookie deals are nothing more than "cheap" labor. By comparison, sure he makes less than other CBs, but he sure as hell isn’t hurting financially by any means, to make $700 K annually in the real world means you are in the top Three percent of wage earners in America and even higher on a world wide scale, so I’m not feeling a bit sorry for Levi, not even in the slightest. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Levi is no Tre. But he’s young, cheap, and more than likely will get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Wallace is smart and technically proficient at what he does. His problem is the lack of speed and strength. That means other teams are always going to be able to create mismatches if they have big, fast, physical WRs. If the Bills can avoid a mismatch, he'll be fine. When they can't he's going to lose some 50/50 situations or get lost in the receiver's trail of dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 5 hours ago, Don Otreply said: By comparison, sure he makes less than other CBs, but he sure as hell isn’t hurting financially by any means, to make $700 K annually in the real world means you are in the top Three percent of wage earners in America and even higher on a world wide scale, so I’m not feeling a bit sorry for Levi, not even in the slightest. Go Bills!!! It's not about comparing Levi to you. It's about comparing Levi to the billionaire owners. The fact that undrafteds can get paid so poorly even if they are outplaying first round picks is a boon for the owners, not a boon for those undrafted guys making $700k/year. In terms of what his labor is worth, he's getting underpaid and is left with little recourse. I think the players' union should definitely bring this up during the new CBA discussions. Because you know where those pay increases would have came from? The billionaire owners' pockets. Stop sticking up for billionaires, people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Levi is better than he gets credit for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Shoulder surgery? I figured it was skin grafting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 43 minutes ago, Capco said: It's not about comparing Levi to you. It's about comparing Levi to the billionaire owners. The fact that undrafteds can get paid so poorly even if they are outplaying first round picks is a boon for the owners, not a boon for those undrafted guys making $700k/year. In terms of what his labor is worth, he's getting underpaid and is left with little recourse. I think the players' union should definitely bring this up during the new CBA discussions. Because you know where those pay increases would have came from? The billionaire owners' pockets. Stop sticking up for billionaires, people! Oh boo boo for the guy making 700K a year playing a game for a living, oh, and I never side with millionaires or Billionaires, ever. Levi is a rich man, earning in the top three percent of American citizens. If you feel so strongly about this sort of thing, How about you go out and support all the union employees who need your help way more than Levi Wallace does, they are struggling far more than any football player currently under contract, support something truly worth your efforts. ? Go Bills!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Levi Wallace is an average NFL CB -- No more and no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Oh boo boo for the guy making 700K a year playing a game for a living, oh, and I never side with millionaires or Billionaires, ever. Levi is a rich man, earning in the top three percent of American citizens. If you feel so strongly about this sort of thing, How about you go out and support all the union employees who need your help way more than Levi Wallace does, they are struggling far more than any football player currently under contract, support something truly worth your efforts. ? Fair enough. We are on the same page far more than we aren't. Anyone who supports unions is good in my book. My only point was that even situations like this highlight how those at the top will squeeze the absolute most out those that support them, and especially in the absence of collective bargaining. Go Bills! You have a good one Don. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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