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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

Probably more of a right-sizing of the $ or % of cap  allocated to that position group, esp if they plan to sign another DT

 

Could it be possibly aimed towards right-sizing with regard to an offer to Jordan Phillips?  Or a DE?

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2 hours ago, BigBuff423 said:

This will make a number of people happy, but honestly I don't think Star underperformed the way some on this board believe. IMHO, he did his job the way he was asked to do it and in the manner the Defense was designed for him to play in it....but, good for the team.

Players who are living up to their contracts usually don’t take pay cuts.

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2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Who?


Who’s on first.

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39 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:


Yeah our defense in which gave up and average of 16 points per game killed us.  2nd in the league is just unacceptable.
 

You obviously don’t believe you build a team in the trenches because you’re bitching about us investing in it.

 

Grow up.  

ouch.

even i felt that. lol


Team Game. complimentary football.
Trust the process

is quite similar to 

" Do your job "

it has a faith based tone eh ?

 

Star did some good work. and he had some bad days and plays.

Stats like yours reflect the Team effort and execution. and thats good stuff ty

 

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22 minutes ago, Max Fischer said:

 

I don't understand what you're trying to say about sources.  I'd disagree that actual pay cuts "happen all the time." They happen, but very infrequently. Nearly every instance is the player makes more up front and simply provides salary cap reporting flexibility.  

 

We can agree on one thing: Star is not making $1.75M less. At worst, if he's active every game (which is very likely) he'll make $500K less in 2020, which probably a fair trade off for being cut proof.   

 

 

Ifs are just that Ifs. And even If he does earn everything he can will he make less money?  Answer is Yes. So that would mean he took a pay cut. 

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7 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

It's only a good deal if they were dead-set-determined to keep him no matter the circumstances.

 

Falling Star Lotulelei going into this season with no financial motivation whatsoever sounds like a bad idea to me.

 

 

 

I never said it was a good deal. 

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3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Could it be possibly aimed towards right-sizing with regard to an offer to Jordan Phillips?  Or a DE?

I think they are getting ready to sign someone - given the timing it would be one of their own FAs. 

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Can we stop including the Jest game just to satisfy a narrative about losing 4 of our last 5?  That game needs to be tossed for obvious reasons.

 

We lost 2 of our last 4 each by a touchdown in the tougher portion of the schedule in games where even though our offense played like ass, we had a chance none the less. 
 

While it can be said we weren’t as good as out 10-6 record, it can also be said 12-4 wasn’t that far out of reach, either. 

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2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

You might be my Lucky Star! Cuz you shine on me wherever you are. I just think of you and I start to glow. 

 

ughhh.....quoting Madonna lyrics now? Yes it's definitely the offseason  - -  

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1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

Poor guy, probably end up on the street with no food

Currently thinking about an episode of ray donovan where “tiny” get arrested for shoplifting a rotisserie chicken and bologna. 

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Remember the context of the teams situation and reputation when Star was brought on, it was in large part to help fix the sh-t show that was the seventeen previous years, that was caused by bad ownership decisions and team miss management.  Like it or not the Bills were a laughingstock. 

 

The make over of the team was/is crucial to having any chance to fix the Buffalo Bills, and you know what, it is having the effect SM & BB hoped for.

 

 It gonna take a minimum of two more seasons to scrub away the tainted image of what the previous seventeen years did to the Buffalo Bills. It indeed cost money to fix what the Bills had become, and it has been worth every dime. 

 

Go Bills!!!

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7 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Can we stop including the Jest game just to satisfy a narrative about losing 4 of our last 5?  

 

 

Ok they lost 3 of their last 4 "meaningful" games.........and the one win was narrow victory against Duck Hodges.

 

It doesn't really make it any better.

 

They had critical,  winnable games in December at home against Baltimore and in New England and they played poorly and they scored late points to narrow the gaps but they were never in position to win either of those games.

 

 Pulling out the "one score" card after the sixth straight loss to NE for this regime is very, very weak.

   

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40 minutes ago, Max Fischer said:

 

I don't understand what you're trying to say about sources.  I'd disagree that actual pay cuts "happen all the time." They happen, but very infrequently. Nearly every instance is the player makes more up front and simply provides salary cap reporting flexibility.  

 

We can agree on one thing: Star is not making $1.75M less. At worst, if he's active every game (which is very likely) he'll make $500K less in 2020, which probably a fair trade off for being cut proof.   

 

 


 

Not sure this is even true.  He agreed to 1.75 million less in base salary to make it guaranteed.  Both sources stated the per game bonus, signing bonus, and workout bonus stayed the same.  So in reality if he plays every game with all of his bonuses he will make $500,000 less than his base salary alone would have been this year.  If he played all 16 games on his old contract he would have made closer to 8 million with the bonuses.

 

In real world dollars he just took a 1.75 million dollar pay cut to ensure his roster spot for this year.  He also took the pay cuts out to year 2 and 3, with minor guarantees for injury.  I am not sure he survives going into 2021, but he has provided himself with some insurance just in case.  

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1 minute ago, Don Otreply said:

Remember the context of the teams situation and reputation when Star was brought on, it was in large part to help fix the sh-t show that was the seventeen previous years, that was caused by bad ownership decisions and team miss management.  Like it or not the Bills were a laughingstock. 

 

The make over of the team was/is crucial to having any chance to fix the Buffalo Bills, and you know what, it is having the effect SM & BB hoped for.

 

 It gonna take a minimum of two more seasons to scrub away the tainted image of what the previous seventeen years did to the Buffalo Bills. It indeed cost money to fix what the Bills had become, and it has been worth every dime. 

 

Go Bills!!!

 

Not sure Star had any effect on that but each to their own. 

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2 hours ago, BigBuff423 said:

 

Maybe the +$1 million equals able to cut Hausch-money so they can spend it on a capable Kicker?? Without sacrificing Cap money to be used on the rest of the team.

 

 

So who exactly is that guy, can you give a couple of names of pending FA kickers who are an actual improvement?

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1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Ok they lost 3 of their last 4 "meaningful" games.........and the one win was narrow victory against Duck Hodges.

 

It doesn't really make it any better.

 

They had critical,  winnable games in December at home against Baltimore and in New England and they played poorly and they scored late points to narrow the gaps but they were never in position to win either of those games.

 

 Pulling out the "one score" card after the sixth straight loss to NE for this regime is very, very weak.

   

 

Sure. But 10-6 is 10-6. Teams don't choose the schedules they are given. The Bills need to be the right side of .500 again in 2020 to really prove they belong in the perennial playoff contender bracket but in the same way close losses are losses wins against "lesser" teams are wins. 

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3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Ok they lost 3 of their last 4 "meaningful" games.........and the one win was narrow victory against Duck Hodges.

 

It doesn't really make it any better.

 

They had critical,  winnable games in December at home against Baltimore and in New England and they played poorly and they scored late points to narrow the gaps but they were never in position to win either of those games.

 

 Pulling out the "one score" card after the sixth straight loss to NE for this regime is very, very weak.

   

Right.

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21 minutes ago, BuffaninATL said:

 

ughhh.....quoting Madonna lyrics now? Yes it's definitely the offseason  - -  

It is the immaculate collection of offseasons

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12 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Remember the context of the teams situation and reputation when Star was brought on, it was in large part to help fix the sh-t show that was the seventeen previous years, that was caused by bad ownership decisions and team miss management.  Like it or not the Bills were a laughingstock. 

 

The make over of the team was/is crucial to having any chance to fix the Buffalo Bills, and you know what, it is having the effect SM & BB hoped for.

 

 It gonna take a minimum of two more seasons to scrub away the tainted image of what the previous seventeen years did to the Buffalo Bills. It indeed cost money to fix what the Bills had become, and it has been worth every dime. 

 

Go Bills!!!

Damn Straight Son .

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11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Not sure Star had any effect on that but each to their own. 

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1 hour ago, Max Fischer said:

 

Because repeating the same source on this site is an indication of accuracy?  There have been plenty of "restructurings" that have not been what was initially reported.  I hope it means an actual "pay cut" but that is pretty rare. 

 

It is a straight pay cut. He took 1.75m in a paycut in trade for guaranteeing he's on the roster for the rest of his 4.5M.

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2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

Damn Straight Son .

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2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Can Brandon Beane take over the Sabres too? 

God I wish. We're wasting Eichel's career.

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12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Not sure Star had any effect on that but each to their own. 

I might think it did. There were other players who mentioned how steady he was. a consistent leader on and off the field.
with out quotes, and no point to prove. I feel acquiring Star showed  a sincere attempt to shore up the run game . the one that was abysmal.

how effective? not sure you can quantify it. But over the season and in most games. Bills would tighten run D up after the 1st half. and Star was still in the game

 

and yes i watched Star too much.

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