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5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I’m not much for conspiracy theory but your post made me think about how the government and the media have been able to get much of the country to VOLUNTARILY be ‘stuck at home’. There’s no blizzard. There’s no rising flood waters. There’s no locusts. No alien machines. 


I was skyping with some friends  the other day and said I was being a "good little citizen" by staying inside and away from people for my two week self-quarantine.  What you are saying is not lost on me.

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6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I’m not much for conspiracy theory but your post made me think about how the government and the media have been able to get much of the country to VOLUNTARILY be ‘stuck at home’. There’s no blizzard. There’s no rising flood waters. There’s no locusts. No alien machines. 

No one n charge 8n Washington 

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3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

They have other countries as test cases, and a lot of the projections are based on the facts gleaned from places it has already spread 


But wouldn’t those other countries have those data corrupters present as well? Specifically, lack of testing, asymptomatic carriers, and those with such minimal symptoms that they’re never tested or confirmed positive?
 

Do we know what population % of Italy was tested, irregardless of symptoms? Just as an example.

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12 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


I'm not sure about that. We were in the NYC area last weekend ?  and on the local news was the ABC news team talking about how "my wife took the kids to the botanical gardens" and the women on the news team were saying they were going to get outside after work since the weather was beautiful, and then the very next segment was CORONAVIRUS and how we were all gonna diiiiiiiieeeeee.... Clearly, they didn't believe what their own news station was selling. The juxtaposition from  the chat-session to the next "news" segment was startling.

After that, they talked about  the first two deaths, moved on to a traffic accident where two died, and then did a CORONAVIRUS YOU ARE GOING TO DIE blurb that was so bad, even my Hubby (who has greater concerns about us all dying from this than I ever will) said, "That is irresponsible fear mongering."

Whether it started with the Chinese trying to kill us all or practice population control on their own, our "msm" trying to crash our economy, or simply for clicks, page views, and TV ratings... there seems to be multiple agendas, prior and currently.

I am not certain how this shakes out. Does Trump get reelected? Does the economy stay crashed (two quarters make a recession)? Will pent-up be energy released and the economy explodes as this virus runs its course?  Does the EU break-up?  Are the globalists done,  or do they lay low for a while?  Does manufacturing come back to all First World countries (at least for national security and public health concerns)?

IF there was an agenda or evil force behind this virus and the ensuing panic, it may not turn out the way it was originally assumed it would.
 

 

That's a fantastic post and point.

 

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4 minutes ago, whatdrought said:


But wouldn’t those other countries have those data corrupters present as well? Specifically, lack of testing, asymptomatic carriers, and those with such minimal symptoms that they’re never tested or confirmed positive?
 

Do we know what population % of Italy was tested, irregardless of symptoms? Just as an example.

Yes, so what we are getting is best guesses based upon as much evidence as is available. 

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1 hour ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

Nope. You have it right.  

 

The "It's Only a Flu" group have mishandled this from the start. 

 

Let me repost this here.  

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I think you misunderstood me. You see the lack of tangible data and assume it’s worse (based on you comment about it not being just a flu)

I’m saying how can we assume anything with data holes like that?

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1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


I'm not sure about that. We were in the NYC area last weekend ?  and on the local news was the ABC news team talking about how "my wife took the kids to the botanical gardens" and the women on the news team were saying they were going to get outside after work since the weather was beautiful, and then the very next segment was CORONAVIRUS and how we were all gonna diiiiiiiieeeeee.... Clearly, they didn't believe what their own news station was selling. The juxtaposition from  the chat-session to the next "news" segment was startling.

After that, they talked about  the first two deaths, moved on to a traffic accident where two died, and then did a CORONAVIRUS YOU ARE GOING TO DIE blurb that was so bad, even my Hubby (who has greater concerns about us all dying from this than I ever will) said, "That is irresponsible fear mongering.

Whether it started with the Chinese trying to kill us all or practice population control on their own, our "msm" trying to crash our economy, or simply for clicks, page views, and TV ratings... there seems to be multiple agendas, prior and currently.

I am not certain how this shakes out. Does Trump get reelected? Does the economy stay crashed (two quarters make a recession)? Will pent-up be energy released and the economy explodes as this virus runs its course?  Does the EU break-up?  Are the globalists done,  or do they lay low for a while?  Does manufacturing come back to all First World countries (at least for national security and public health concerns)?

IF there was an agenda or maleficent force behind this virus and the ensuing panic, it may not turn out the way it was originally assumed it would.
 

Look, I’ve tried to be discrete by asking innocuous questions, quizzing you about various things, liking posts and trying to get into your inner circle.  I’m just going to get to it:

 

Are you and your husband, or were you and your husband at one time, contractors for the CIA, the Department of Homeland Security, a shadowy government or quasi-government agency that operates beyond the prying eyes of Congress at the request of the President, and/or are you a specialist in anything that might loosely be described in a Ludlum novel as covert, deep cover, wet work, infiltration, or dark ops?   Do you speak multiple languages, and are you that rare combination of sultry beauty and an everywoman style that allows you to pass from Kremlin dinner party to das Walmart noticed yet unnoticed? Can your husband kill me and make it look like I accidentally swallowed my own shoe lace in spite of the fact I was wearing loafers, and it’s 2020, so more importantly, can you? 
 

It’s either this, or you’re working for Amazon negotiating for warehouse space and massive tax breaks.  There literally are only two possibilities based on your travel schedule. 

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2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Look, I’ve tried to be discrete by asking innocuous questions, quizzing you about various things, liking posts and trying to get into your inner circle.  I’m just going to get to it:

 

Are you and your husband, or were you and your husband at one time, contractors for the CIA, the Department of Homeland Security, a shadowy government or quasi-government agency that operates beyond the prying eyes of Congress at the request of the President, and/or are you a specialist in anything that might loosely be described in a Ludlum novel as covert, deep cover, wet work, infiltration, or dark ops?   Do you speak multiple languages, and are you that rare combination of sultry beauty and an everywoman style that allows you to pass from Kremlin dinner party to das Walmart noticed yet unnoticed? Can your husband kill me and make it look like I accidentally swallowed my own shoe lace in spite of the fact I was wearing loafers, and it’s 2020, so more importantly, can you? 
 

It’s either this, or you’re working for Amazon negotiating for warehouse space and massive tax breaks.  There literally are only two possibilities based on your travel schedule. 


I like those scenarios! They are both much better than the truth (pent-up desire to travel, and finally having the opportunity to do so).

 

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7 minutes ago, whatdrought said:


I think you misunderstood me. You see the lack of tangible data and assume it’s worse (based on you comment about it not being just a flu)

I’m saying how can we assume anything with data holes like that?


You are talking to a guy who spends 23 hours a day crying about Trump.  

Possible psychopath.   
 

 

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Something to remember: the test kits available at first were faulty, they gave out false negatives and false positives at a rate of 40% or better. Our country discovered this after sending many of them out to testing centers. Once discovered we quit sending them out and recalled them. We created our own test and had to take the time to verify its accuracy before distributing them. This is what took the time and made it appear that we were not on top of things. Actually the opposite was true. While other entities were using test kits that were just as likely to be wrong as correct, we realized the fallacy of doing so and acted accordingly. 

 

When was the last time anyone saw an administration as engaged in tackling a crisis as this administration is? Maybe 20 years ago, eh?

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6 minutes ago, whatdrought said:


The exact answer that would be expected by someone like what he described...

We may have to add an actual extra "P" to PPP in order to properly reflect our membership. "***** Galore" comes to mind as the sultry but deadly femme fatale posting about her exploits here. Is it stirred not shaken or shaken, not stirred? 

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25 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

We may have to add an actual extra "P" to PPP in order to properly reflect our membership. "***** Galore" comes to mind as the sultry but deadly femme fatale posting about her exploits here. Is it stirred not shaken or shaken, not stirred? 


In my next life I want to be as attractive as Honor Blackman was in that movie. 

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Fortunately, we have a businessman in charge who understands jobs, jobs, jobs.

 

If you want to help people weather the coronavirus crisis, save their jobs

by Tucker Carlson

 

Original Article

 

There's so much disinformation going around about the coronavirus. You're probably getting it at this moment on your text. We certainly are. 

 

 

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The coronavirus paradox - our lowest point and finest hour

ABC News, by Tom Bossert

 

Original Article

 

The paradox of the novel coronavirus response is that it only works if we take aggressive steps before they seem necessary and, if they work, will not have seemed necessary. Success will look like we overreacted.

 

This is a unique emergency, but the basics still apply. For public officials in a crisis, you tell people everything you know and everything you do not know. Acknowledge uncertainty. Don't over-promise or over-reassure. Share the burden of complex problems and give people something to do. Don't make fun of them for how they feel, whether fearful or skeptical, and tell people how you made your decisions.

 

 

 

 

 
 
 
 
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Author: “The virus is the product of natural evolution, ending any speculation about deliberate genetic engineering.”


JUPITER, Fla. — Over the course of this Covid-19 ordeal, a number of outlandish conspiracy theories have emerged that the virus was produced in a Chinese, Canadian, or American lab. Conspiracy theorieshave become an increasingly common part of everyday life in recent years, but a new study on Covid-19’s origins is disproving this theory. A team of international researchers have concluded that the novel coronavirus has entirely natural origins through evolution.

Public genome sequence data on Covid-19, as well as similar viruses, was extensively analyzed for this study. The results show absolutely no indication that the virus was produced artificially or in a lab setting.

https://www.studyfinds.org/coronavirus-origins-covid-19-wasnt-produced-in-a-lab-scientists-conclude/

Evolution 

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LONDON — Ten days ago, I was asked to see a patient. I’m a respiratory specialist in an intensive-care unit at a hospital in London, so it wasn’t surprising that the patient needed a ventilator. It seemed fairly typical. But the patient turned out to have the coronavirus — our hospital’s first case and one of nearly 2,000 people who have so far tested positive in Britain. I hadn’t worn a mask. Soon I developed a cough.

Though I experienced neither fever nor breathlessness, I was told to self-isolate for 14 days. That’s where I am now, in self-isolation. And I’m not the only one from my hospital. After just one patient with Covid-19, a quarter of our junior staff are off with coughs and sniffles we would normally work through. A single case of the coronavirus has wreaked havoc in our hospital.

https://dnyuz.com/2020/03/18/im-a-doctor-in-britain-were-heading-into-the-abyss/

2 minutes ago, Foxx said:

Cuomo holding press conference right now. Mandating all non essential work places can not have more than 50% of workforce reporting for duty outside home.

He’s doing such a good job. In command of the facts, leading, calming people but keeping everyone focused on what’s important. Had nice words to say of Trump, too 

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13 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Author: “The virus is the product of natural evolution, ending any speculation about deliberate genetic engineering.”


JUPITER, Fla. — Over the course of this Covid-19 ordeal, a number of outlandish conspiracy theories have emerged that the virus was produced in a Chinese, Canadian, or American lab. Conspiracy theorieshave become an increasingly common part of everyday life in recent years, but a new study on Covid-19’s origins is disproving this theory. A team of international researchers have concluded that the novel coronavirus has entirely natural origins through evolution.

Public genome sequence data on Covid-19, as well as similar viruses, was extensively analyzed for this study. The results show absolutely no indication that the virus was produced artificially or in a lab setting.

https://www.studyfinds.org/coronavirus-origins-covid-19-wasnt-produced-in-a-lab-scientists-conclude/

Evolution 

Look, we know. This whole freakin’ thing is upon us because some nut job in Wuhan decided to have a bat sandwich for lunch. There’s no conspiracy, just a bunch of weirdos eating f’ d up schi****.

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Author: “The virus is the product of natural evolution, ending any speculation about deliberate genetic engineering.”


JUPITER, Fla. — Over the course of this Covid-19 ordeal, a number of outlandish conspiracy theories have emerged that the virus was produced in a Chinese, Canadian, or American lab. Conspiracy theorieshave become an increasingly common part of everyday life in recent years, but a new study on Covid-19’s origins is disproving this theory. A team of international researchers have concluded that the novel coronavirus has entirely natural origins through evolution.

Public genome sequence data on Covid-19, as well as similar viruses, was extensively analyzed for this study. The results show absolutely no indication that the virus was produced artificially or in a lab setting.

https://www.studyfinds.org/coronavirus-origins-covid-19-wasnt-produced-in-a-lab-scientists-conclude/

Evolution 

   Is there evidence to this point supporting a man made pandemic?  No.  Could evidence be uncovered or revealed pointing to manipulation or material that occurred possibly with a human host?  Can't be ruled out.  I would like to see some redundancy in testing before swearing that it is impossible.

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6 hours ago, Chandemonium said:

I know this putting me dangerously close to wild conspiracy theory territory if not firmly in that camp, but I’m starting to wonder if this was done intentionally by China to attack the US and other Western countries by spreading fear and destabilizing the economy. Yesterday when @GG was asking about why new cases in China have all but disappeared when it is projected longer elsewhere I came up with a few possibilities:

 

1) it actually started in China longer ago than we’ve been led to believe, which is why it is on the downswing there.

2) China is lying about the number of new cases.

3) China already knew about a cure/vaccine and has started administering it to their population.

 

1 seems reasonably plausible, although if that were the case it seems it would have spread to the rest of the globe faster than it did. 2 I think is the Occam’s razor answer, but 3 is where things get interesting. Especially in the context of China’s recent behavior like trying to blame the US by saying it was a bio weapon the we released on them and now expelling American journalists who might get too close to the truth, is it too far fetched that they would do something like release a bio weapon on their own people first, sacrificing a few thousand to deflect suspicion knowing they could save the rest, and then just sit back and let the thing spread? Yesterday during the response team update in addition to calling China out for spreading rumors that we started it, Trump seemed to be putting veiled pressure on China with his comments saying they had great incentive to cooperate, which may suggest the administration has reason to believe there’s more than meets the eye there. 

 

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