IDBillzFan Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, Gary Busey said: He did not just mention God, he said God gave us Trump. The people gave us Trump. This was at a briefing that is supposed to be for the Coronavirus Task Force. All this tells me is you don't understand Christianity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, IDBillzFan said: All this tells me is you don't understand Christianity. Comprehension isn't his strong suit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Dayton Bike Week participant has died of Corona. Florida could be exporting this all over the country https://www.news-journalonline.com/news/20200330/coronavirus-daytona-bike-week-visitor-from-south-florida-dies-of-covid-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, Q-baby! said: Most probably would. I am not a Obama fan, so I would likely be just as big of a dick to him. I would find that refreshing. In truth, I may be a little more critical of him as I'd be less inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt due to his track record, but I try to give credit where it's due. During the Obama years it seemed any criticism of him, no matter how tame or warranted, was treated as blasphemy, just as any praise of President Trump is treated now. It reminds me of the old question from philosophy: Does God do the things he does because they are good, or are they good because God does them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Taro T Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 22 minutes ago, Rob's House said: That's quite the projection there. The funny thing is that if Obama (or any Dem) were President right now, and doing exactly what President Trump is doing, all the left-wing fundamentalists such as yourself would be on your knees praising your beloved leader for his strength, courage, and wisdom. I think you know it too. Thing is, there actually is a proxy available to get a guesstimate of how 44 would be treated had this crisis occurred on his watch. Look at the coverage & treatment Cuomo has been getting for his performance during the crisis. He has been criticized for some actions/ inactions; but for the most part, IMHO, he's been allowed to do his job without too much criticism. And he's even recieved some compliments from people that in general don't like his overall performance the past 10 years. Compare Cuomo's treatment by the right relative to 45's treatment by the left. Should give a reasonable idea of how 44 would've been treated. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 30 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Boy, that Falwell is a real POS. Putting all those people in danger to protect his ignorance. What are you babbling about now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Taro T said: Thing is, there actually is a proxy available to get a guesstimate of how 44 would be treated had this crisis occurred on his watch. Look at the coverage & treatment Cuomo has been getting for his performance during the crisis. He has been criticized for some actions/ inactions; but for the most part, IMHO, he's been allowed to do his job without too much criticism. And he's even recieved some compliments from people that in general don't like his overall performance the past 10 years. Compare Cuomo's treatment by the right relative to 45's treatment by the left. Should give a reasonable idea of how 44 would've been treated. The variable that's forgotten here is the tone Cuomo and Trump project toward the media/the other side of the political spectrum. It's vastly different. When Cuomo is asked a tough question he sticks to the question. When Trump is asked a tough question he attacks the reporter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: The variable that's forgotten here is the tone Cuomo and Trump project toward the media/the other side of the political spectrum. It's vastly different. When Cuomo is asked a tough question he sticks to the question. When Trump is asked a tough question he attacks the reporter. Cuomo is a bumbling fool. Always has been. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 BANE, CALL YOUR OFFICE: Cape Codders’ petition: ‘Close the bridges.’ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, westside2 said: Cuomo is a bumbling fool. Always has been. Interesting. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Gary Busey said: The variable that's forgotten here is the tone Cuomo and Trump project toward the media/the other side of the political spectrum. It's vastly different. When Cuomo is asked a tough question he sticks to the question. When Trump is asked a tough question he attacks the reporter. Not excusing 45's giving it right back to the media that get in his face; it's a bad look and has been for a long time. But, please point out the last time Cuomo dealt with an in your face media? And, do you honestly think that Cuomo telling conservatives they aren't wanted in his state or his having the Empire State Building lit up in pink to celebrate abortion on demand is any less in your face than 45's delivery? The right, for the most part, especially here, have been fair in their view of Cuomo's handling of this issue at his level, IMHO. (The post ~3 above this not withstanding.) Do you honestly believe the left, for the most part, has done the same for 45? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, billsfan1959 said: Per capita, this country is faring as well or better than almost every country out there (with a significant number of cases) in the one area that matters most: the death rate. And before you go on about how the death rate will climb so much higher when our hospitals get overwhelmed. Italy and Spain were over 5% death rate (based on confirmed cases) before they ever reached 25,000 total cases. We are still under 2% with over 167,000. New York is still under 2% with over 67 thousand. You are a broken record at this point. Most of us choose to blame who is actually responsible for this and that is a communist government in China that doesn't give a f*&# about its own people, much less the rest of the world. They lied to everybody and there wasn't a leader or a government out there that was any more prepared for what they were about to face than Trump (add in any politician in this country) and our government. Nobody was prepared for this because China was its usual deceitful self. You can keep blaming Trump. And that's the excuse those with TLS use--blame China or no one could see it coming. My criticism has been their lack of response once it was here. While he deserves credit for closing off with China, they sqaundered that time by not taking it seriously enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Trump blew it. He will have to live with his month long vacation as the virus spread. NO It was Monica that blew it, please try to keep up! 36 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Dayton Bike Week You mean Ohio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, TPS said: Now that he’s admitting there could be anywhere from 100-200k deaths from this, do you still Think this? I was saying 4 weeks ago they are not taking this seriously enough, putting the stock market/economy above health and safety, while trump was talking about only 15 cases and we’ll be down to 0. Most here were saying it’s being driven by media hype or Dems wanting to hurt his re-election chances. I wonder how many have admitted they were wrong about that, or is it still perceived as the truth? Is this just another flu that’s been overhyped? As for predictions, I made the opposite one Back then (which seems like months now), that his lack of urgency and response would be his undoing on this. We’ll see.... I still don’t believe there will be 100-200,000 deaths. There is still a lot we don’t know about the virus, but social distancing measures are already arresting the spread of the disease—or at least reducing hospitalizations and deaths—and at this point, the fatality rate is mostly speculation, because we still don’t have widespread random testing anywhere, except maybe Iceland. There will continue to be hotspots but I believe the doomsday predictions of medical facilities all around the country being overrun are never going to come to pass. Despite having said some dumb things, Trump is going to (rightly) get credit for not panicking at a time when many other politicians and the media were losing their minds. Edited March 31, 2020 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: Chris Cuomo has coronavirus. Edited March 31, 2020 by 3rdnlng 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, TPS said: And that's the excuse those with TLS use--blame China or no one could see it coming. My criticism has been their lack of response once it was here. While he deserves credit for closing off with China, they sqaundered that time by not taking it seriously enough. Do you include de Blasio and Cuomo in your blame of waiting too long? How about Pelosi and Schumer? How about every political figure in this country? How about every political leader in every country in Europe? Show us the data that proves what is happening here is any worse than what is happening anywhere else? Seriously, quit spouting the same tired cliche of "he waited too long" and show us the actual data to prove it. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 30 minutes ago, Rob's House said: During the Obama years it seemed any criticism of him, no matter how tame or warranted, was treated as blasphemy, just as any praise of President Trump is treated now. Ah, the Obama years. If one wasn't being called a racist for the *slightest* criticism of him, at the very least his supporters would demand: "You may not like the man, but you should respect the office." How times have changed. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Chris Cuomo has coronavirus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: ***** him and his dirty ass family too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 hours ago, TH3 said: Question....when you say stuff like this - do you actually believe it? Is Chloroquine Sulphate the same thing as Chloroquine Phosphate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, westside2 said: ***** him and his dirty ass family too! That’s not right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, meazza said: That’s not right. You're right meazza. That wasn't right. But that family has done so much harm to this state that I literally can't stand them. They're elitists who think they are better than everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, westside2 said: ***** him and his dirty ass family too! Yeah, the right is sooo much better. Just now, westside2 said: You're right meazza. That wasn't right. But that family has done so much harm to this state that I literally can't stand them. They're elitists who think they are better than everyone. Remind you of anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 38 minutes ago, westside2 said: What are you babbling about now? Liberty University is staying open, calling it all a hoax. Elderly population in Lynchburg is in danger from that 26 minutes ago, Gary M said: NO It was Monica that blew it, please try to keep up! You mean Ohio? No, Daytona https://www.news-journalonline.com/news/20200330/coronavirus-daytona-bike-week-visitor-from-south-florida-dies-of-covid-19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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3rdnlng Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Cuomo just explained how he knows why he needs 30,000 ventilators. "I know it because a ventilator costs $25,000 and we are broke. If we didn't need them we wouldn't be buying them". Joe Biden must have coughed on him. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Cuomo just explained how he knows why he needs 30,000 ventilators. "I know it because a ventilator costs $25,000 and we are broke. If we didn't need them we wouldn't be buying them". Joe Biden must have coughed on him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Cuomo just explained how he knows why he needs 30,000 ventilators. "I know it because a ventilator costs $25,000 and we are broke. If we didn't need them we wouldn't be buying them". Joe Biden must have coughed on him. So when next year’s pandemic attacks the leg muscles are we going to complain that the government should have stockpiled wheelchairs? This obsession with ventilators has gotten to be ridiculous! They just don’t fall from the sky. We have to build them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Says the openly racist moron CORONAVIRUS LIVE UPDATES Access to these updates is free More people have died in the U.S. from the coronavirus than in the 9/11 attacks But still only 1/6 of the people who died in the swine flu epidemic under Obama. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 When they keep going with the fake Trump quotes.........it illustrates that they got nothing. Fauci: 'We're starting to see glimmers' mitigation is having 'dampening effect' Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said Tuesday that there are signs that mitigation strategies implemented in response to the coronavirus pandemic may be starting to have an impact on the number of COVID-19 cases. “We're starting to see glimmers that that is actually having some dampening effect,” Fauci said in an interview with CNN’s Jim Sciutto. “But that does not take away from the seriousness of what you've described on this show.” Fauci noted that the number of cases is still increasing, and virus hotspots like New York are “appropriately” trying to accommodate by opening up facilities to help manage the number of cases. In New York City, the Javits Center and a U.S. Navy hospital ship docked in the city's harbor are being set up to treat patients without the disease as hospitals reach capacity. “We are still in a very difficult situation. We hope, and I believe it will happen, that we may start seeing a turnaround, but we haven’t seen it yet,” Fauci said. “We’re just pushing on the mitigation to hope that we do see that turnaround.” Fauci said the next couple of weeks are a “critical time,” when asked how Americans should be preparing for the coming weeks. https://thehill.com/homenews/news/490371-fauci-were-starting-to-see-glimmers-mitigation-is-having-dampening-effect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: But still only 1/6 of the people who died in the swine flu epidemic under Obama. Won't be able to say that for much longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 24 minutes ago, B-Man said: Hope he makes a quick and full recovery. As an aside, given his journalistic skills and quality of his work, a dark basement does seem the appropriate place for him to be doing his show.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) \ Not a surprise it's the epicenter. OMG gais its a boat !!!! Edited March 31, 2020 by Albwan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 13 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Liberty University is staying open, calling it all a hoax. Elderly population in Lynchburg is in danger from that No, Daytona https://www.news-journalonline.com/news/20200330/coronavirus-daytona-bike-week-visitor-from-south-florida-dies-of-covid-19 If that is true, that's pretty stupid. I don't agree with that decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 23 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: The variable that's forgotten here is the tone Cuomo and Trump project toward the media/the other side of the political spectrum. It's vastly different. When Cuomo is asked a tough question he sticks to the question. When Trump is asked a tough question he attacks the reporter. And there it is. It's not what President Trump does that's the "greatest threat to our democracy", it's that he's mean. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Social Distancing: Hold the Line. ‘This virus is unforgiving to unwise choices.’ “You should perceive your entire family to function as a single individual unit: If one person puts themselves at risk, everyone in the unit is at risk. Seemingly small social chains get large and complex with alarming speed. If your son visits his girlfriend, and you later sneak over for coffee with a neighbor, your neighbor is now connected to the infected office worker that your son’s girlfriend’s mother shook hands with. This sounds silly, it’s not. This is not a joke or hypothetical. We as epidemiologists see it borne out in the data time and time again. Conversely, any break in that chain breaks disease transmission along that chain.” I’ll just add that I see people acting as if this is graded on a curve: “At least I’m doing better than X.” The disease doesn’t care if you’re doing better, and you don’t get extra credit for trying. You either avoid it or you don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 hour ago, GG said: Florida growth rate so far is slower than you'd expect given its demographic profile. right. outside of geologic location, logic would seem to dictate that the stats would be along the lines of Italy. of course the other variable here would be different strains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Won't be able to say that for much longer Sad to see the things you hope for.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 30 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Do you include de Blasio and Cuomo in your blame of waiting too long? How about Pelosi and Schumer? How about every political figure in this country? How about every political leader in every country in Europe? Show us the data that proves what is happening here is any worse than what is happening anywhere else? Seriously, quit spouting the same tired cliche of "he waited too long" and show us the actual data to prove it. Exactly. It's fair to point out that the Feds downplayed the risk early on. But there's also silence when you bring up the NYC government's attitude leading up to the Lunar Day parade or the Gov-Mayor squabble about St Patty's parade only one week before the event. But I know, it's only political when you try to defend Trump. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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