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I'll just leave this here ......

 

 

So gone......Goal posts.  They keep on keepin on.  

 

Lol idiots distracted by fake impeachment and fake "insurrection" charges meanwhile the indefinite insurrection, coup, and the end of the lives you once knew are being stolen with no justification or exit strategy.  

 

None.  

 

Where is @SectionC3 still going to ignore me or is all this still gibberish?  You need me to translate that bill for you and explain what the ramifications are? 

 

10 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

 

I'd like to substantively respond, but this post is gibberish.  I don't have the ability to meaningfully respond to such things. 

 

 

How long do you expect us to keep this up?  That was the question.  

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You're slipping Big Blitz.  I came here expecting to see you had already posted this. But since you didn't, I will.

 

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"If we can get, and I have used this as an estimate, it's not definitive, if we can get 70 to 85% of the population vaccinated and get to what we would hope would be to a degree or herd immunity—which really is an umbrella or a veil of protection against the community where the level of virus is so low, it's not a threat at all—then at that point, you could start thinking in terms of not having to have a uniform wearing of mask," Dr. Fauci explained. "But we're certainly not near there yet.

 

https://www.eatthis.com/news-fauci-stop-wearing-masks/

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On 2/8/2021 at 3:01 AM, reddogblitz said:

 

I am not as paranoid about this as you, but I did think this was ridiculous. I don't wear one when I walk my dog cuz I'm outside and never get close to anyone. If someone is approaching me there is plenty of time for one of us to cross the street.  Now if I go into a store something I do.

 

Be careful, but don't be silly.

It's been more useful in keeping me warmer outside during this February deep freeze.

3 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

You're slipping Big Blitz.  I came here expecting to see you had already posted this. But since you didn't, I will.

 

 

https://www.eatthis.com/news-fauci-stop-wearing-masks/

Maybe because it's good news.

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Almost 10% of the US population has had 1 dose and 3% 2 doses. 39 million doses administered so far. That’s no joke with the new daily average doses administered at 1.5M/day. The J&J approval won’t speed that up right away but by summer, that rate could be as high as 3M/day, right about the time we don't need this vaccine anymore.

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Almost 10% of the US population has had 1 dose and 3% 2 doses. 39 million doses administered so far. That’s no joke with the new daily average doses administered at 1.5M/day. The J&J approval won’t speed that up right away but by summer, that rate could be as high as 3M/day, right about the time we don't need this vaccine anymore.

Seems like the fatality numbers would be dropping like a stone if the vaccines are given solely to the elderly. On the sheer math of it, those over 70 (the vulnerable population) can’t possibly be more than 10% of the country...no? 

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43 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Seems like the fatality numbers would be dropping like a stone if the vaccines are given solely to the elderly. On the sheer math of it, those over 70 (the vulnerable population) can’t possibly be more than 10% of the country...no? 

 

54 million Americans over 65. 

 

Hospitalizations are dropping like a stone. Fatalities are following but as always, deaths are the tail of cases and hospitalizations. 

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The last time the death 7-day average was below 3000 was Jan. 7. The last time we had 7-day average cases this low was November 7. The last time we had hospitals at this level was November 18. 

 

I won't speculate on the cause but it's hard not to think the vaccine isn't having a big impact.

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22 hours ago, Doc said:

Funny, they didn't try and identify maskless rioters over the summer...

It's my understanding that there was no specific scientific assumption that could ever, ever, ever be drawn tying transmission to specific behavior at specific events (not involving motorcycles, political parties represented by elephants, religious worship or Great-Grandma's legendary home cooked Thanksgiving ShooFly Pie) clearly and obviously ignoring both mask and social distancing guidelines that would lead any reasonable person to conclude that participation in such events posed any sort of risk of transmission.  As such, it's best to remain silent on such matters. 

 

Admittedly it's a mystery--this levitation/hover phenomenon and how the people in the mass gathering instantaneously and miraculously appear having no record of travel/food consumption/rest room use/or other specifically defined high-risk interpersonal human contact, but if science can't science it I have to assume it is so.  

 

Plus, if everyone else double-masks, it seems logical that it would offset any non-masked harm that might occur, like a John Kerryesque carbon offset.  

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8 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Maybe because it's good news.

 

I was referring to Dr. Fauci saying after we reached 80% and herd immunity that we would still have to wait til the threat was "so low" (how low is "so low") before we could even begin thinking about tossing masks.  

 

In the article I posted he has also backed off his 4th of July estimates to Thanksgiving.

 

How is this good news?

 

Sounds like what Big Blitz is saying that its more of a control mechanism or something.  Not saying I buy that necessarily but it is odd IMHO.

 

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7 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I was referring to Dr. Fauci saying after we reached 80% and herd immunity that we would still have to wait til the threat was "so low" (how low is "so low") before we could even begin thinking about tossing masks.  

 

In the article I posted he has also backed off his 4th of July estimates to Thanksgiving.

 

How is this good news?

 

Sounds like what Big Blitz is saying that its more of a control mechanism or something.  Not saying I buy that necessarily but it is odd IMHO.

 

Because he keeps posting gifs that this thing is going to last forever.  I figured any time before that would be good news to him.

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2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Because he keeps posting gifs that this thing is going to last forever.  I figured any time before that would be good news to him.

 

 

When you start to see this the way I look at it you'll understand.  So I'm going to try as best I can to explain why we are in serious danger.......this is it summarized:

 

 

 

The virus is never going away.  Ever.  Endemic.  So something to always be scared of.  

 

Team Karen exists and is also never going away (see the tweet I posted above---proof of Team Karen).

 

Since virus is never going away....will mutate....and be scary.....Team Karen is going to demand that action be taken to keep them safe.

 

Team Karen is a core constituent of the Democrat Party.  They will demand that the Democrats DO SOMETHING to always keep them forever safe.  Even if it means "new normal" because they are demented.  They put their 2 year olds in masks.  We're training the next generation of Karens as we speak.  It's been that long.  

 

So the evil people in power (all of them) are being told by....let's say Team Karen is about 40% plus of America......to keep them safe; and that means willingly giving powers we have watched them exert for almost ONE FULL YEAR.  With no "end game" (the biggest red flag).  

 

The rest of the country is going along because we'll I'm getting PPP, I can totally keep working from home this is awesome, and oh we get paid $2000 every so often.  Cool!  And unemployment more then my crap job?  Yes please.  These can become permanent fixtures bc the mob + politicians pleasing the mob is why this goes on.  

 

Worse, those among the rest of the country trying to call this path out as unsustainable and must stop now, are silenced from the public square and are guilted into going along with it because you're just a maskhole if you don't.  

 

 

 

In other words Doc.  You're looking at the virus and saying essentially this should end.  It's a virus we're vaccinating now!  No.  Not going to work like that.  

 

When you look at how the public eagerly and willingly has ceded rights to power without even questioning anything...the media won't either....this goes on and on and on.  The changes will be permanent and life never gets back to normal.  

 

Kids in 9th grade right now are looking at never dancing with a girl at Homecoming.  Not socializing as normal.  Getting a 5th rate education.  Parents are missing out on seeing what they've waited for years to see---their kids perform in high school in choir or band or athletics or basically anything.  

 

One year of that is gone.  Year 2 is coming and it's going to be the same.  

 

You have no clue how wrong I want to be.  So wrong. 

 

Unfortunately I know exactly what has and will continue to happen because we (too many of us) decided its up to government and their massive corporation buddies to lead us through this.  

 

Big Government and Big Corporations.

 

Good luck y'all.  Full disaster.  

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42 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

When you start to see this the way I look at it you'll understand.  So I'm going to try as best I can to explain why we are in serious danger.......this is it summarized:

 

 

 

The virus is never going away.  Ever.  Endemic.  So something to always be scared of.  

 

Team Karen exists and is also never going away (see the tweet I posted above---proof of Team Karen).

 

Since virus is never going away....will mutate....and be scary.....Team Karen is going to demand that action be taken to keep them safe.

 

Team Karen is a core constituent of the Democrat Party.  They will demand that the Democrats DO SOMETHING to always keep them forever safe.  Even if it means "new normal" because they are demented.  They put their 2 year olds in masks.  We're training the next generation of Karens as we speak.  It's been that long.  

 

So the evil people in power (all of them) are being told by....let's say Team Karen is about 40% plus of America......to keep them safe; and that means willingly giving powers we have watched them exert for almost ONE FULL YEAR.  With no "end game" (the biggest red flag).  

 

The rest of the country is going along because we'll I'm getting PPP, I can totally keep working from home this is awesome, and oh we get paid $2000 every so often.  Cool!  And unemployment more then my crap job?  Yes please.  These can become permanent fixtures bc the mob + politicians pleasing the mob is why this goes on.  

 

Worse, those among the rest of the country trying to call this path out as unsustainable and must stop now, are silenced from the public square and are guilted into going along with it because you're just a maskhole if you don't.  

 

 

 

In other words Doc.  You're looking at the virus and saying essentially this should end.  It's a virus we're vaccinating now!  No.  Not going to work like that.  

 

When you look at how the public eagerly and willingly has ceded rights to power without even questioning anything...the media won't either....this goes on and on and on.  The changes will be permanent and life never gets back to normal.  

 

Kids in 9th grade right now are looking at never dancing with a girl at Homecoming.  Not socializing as normal.  Getting a 5th rate education.  Parents are missing out on seeing what they've waited for years to see---their kids perform in high school in choir or band or athletics or basically anything.  

 

One year of that is gone.  Year 2 is coming and it's going to be the same.  

 

You have no clue how wrong I want to be.  So wrong. 

 

Unfortunately I know exactly what has and will continue to happen because we (too many of us) decided its up to government and their massive corporation buddies to lead us through this.  

 

Big Government and Big Corporations.

 

Good luck y'all.  Full disaster.  

 

i think you underestimate the pendulum. this country has routinley swung to the right and left. to much time in one direction sends it back in the other direction..case in point 8 years obama..then trump.

 

if trump was more diplomatic and did not lean so far into the radicals side and republicans were less cowards to take on the true evident threats. ex section 230, fighting voting changes..which many of them passed.gutless. he def would have won.

 

i think most people who aren't on twitter are tired of the constant wokeness. they also are growing pretty tired of the safety over rights that is taking place. biden is new and people see the vacine as a light at the end of the tunnel. if it goes to long where vacines are distributed but they are still locked down. biden shows himself for who he is a corrupt lifelong politician. the masses will not be compliable much longer. there will be a fast swingback and hopfully its for a populist that doesnt have the same shortcomings as trump. 

 

the new york times wrote that even france declared that the over reaching american social justice is damaging to society...and france is pretty left. 

 

that's my belief. the question you bring up is how many will not swing with it and continue to ignore the blatant censorship, lies and division to keep what is needed to amass enough power to succeed in a complete takeover. im worried to. just look at how many on here cheer it all on. but message boards are drops in the bucket to real life...thats what i hold hope for. 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

 

i think you underestimate the pendulum. this country has routinley swung to the right and left. to much time in one direction sends it back in the other direction..case in point 8 years obama..then trump.

 

if trump was more diplomatic and did not lean so far into the radicals side and republicans were less cowards to take on the true evident threats. ex section 8, fighting voting changes..which many of them passed.gutless. he def would have won.

 

i think most people who aren't on twitter are tired of the constant wokeness. they also are growing pretty tired of the safety over rights that is taking place. biden is new and people see the vacine as a light at the end of the tunnel. if it goes to long where vacines are distributed but they are still locked down. biden shows himself for who he is a corrupt lifelong politician. the masses will not be compliable much longer. there will be a fast swingback and hopfully its for a populist that doesnt have the same shortcomings as trump. 

 

even france declared that the over reaching liberalism is damaging to society...and france is pretty left.

 

that's my belief.  

 

 

 

 

Don't disagree on any of that.  

 

But I'm specifically talking about being in a place this country has NEVER been in before.  

 

The focus needs to be on how the ceding of our rights to government and big corporations in bed with them, because the masses are scared, this dynamic can lead to things no one has either taken seriously or can't even imagine.  

 

What gives me hope is States like South Dakota, Florida, Wyoming, Iowa saying enough is enough.  These states are run by good people that value freedom as much as anything and have maintained perspective during the pandemic.

 

As incredibly frustrating as it was for me to watch Trump do literally nothing but tweet about liberating States, I understand why.  If he broke Federalism and the Constitution usurping powers he does not have (but he was a dictator...my God people are stupid) then the equivalent of the expansion of war powers of the Executive would have happened on the domestic front and Federalism thus the Republic would have collapsed.  Everything would be a public health crisis.   And powers continue to expand for the Executive.  

 

And since there are people out there good with this, because they know it's good for the party of control, this may very well be the end of freedoms as you knew them. 

 

That's what's on the line.  And it happened the minute 15 days became 30 with no end game or communication to the people about what they want to see for the highly politicized CDC to declare your distanced living can stop.

 

None of it will as long as there are politicians and corporations benefitting from this.  

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38 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Don't disagree on any of that.  

 

But I'm specifically talking about being in a place this country has NEVER been in before.  

 

The focus needs to be on how the ceding of our rights to government and big corporations in bed with them, because the masses are scared, this dynamic can lead to things no one has either taken seriously or can't even imagine.  

 

What gives me hope is States like South Dakota, Florida, Wyoming, Iowa saying enough is enough.  These states are run by good people that value freedom as much as anything and have maintained perspective during the pandemic.

 

As incredibly frustrating as it was for me to watch Trump do literally nothing but tweet about liberating States, I understand why.  If he broke Federalism and the Constitution usurping powers he does not have (but he was a dictator...my God people are stupid) then the equivalent of the expansion of war powers of the Executive would have happened on the domestic front and Federalism thus the Republic would have collapsed.  Everything would be a public health crisis.   And powers continue to expand for the Executive.  

 

And since there are people out there good with this, because they know it's good for the party of control, this may very well be the end of freedoms as you knew them. 

 

That's what's on the line.  And it happened the minute 15 days became 30 with no end game or communication to the people about what they want to see for the highly politicized CDC to declare your distanced living can stop.

 

None of it will as long as there are politicians and corporations benefitting from this.  

 

yeah i agree. im fighting it on this very message board. its hard to not come off as crazy with all the lies being told in unison but like you said their are still states fighting for freedom. noone even cares that riots are still happening nightly in portland but guess what.

 

people are fleeing those places to the places you describe. people are tuning out the superbowl as they include more social justice then entertainment...low ratings. people are watching the cdc flipflop on thier rulings and news organizations describe everything as racist sexist ect ect. courts are now beginning to step in to defend the constitution..very slowly. newsomes recall is almost 1.5 million. the medias announcement of wall street bets being "radicals" or "russians" was laughed out of the room.  

 

it takes time to wake up..ironically from the wokeness but its happening. i wish it did not take some of the blatant atrocities but how long can the murder rates rack up innocent people before you say...abolishing police was pretty stupid. how long can you advocate censorship until it eliminates a voice you think is important? how long can you listen to lies before you seek truth. how long can you watch your children and community deteriorate and think your safer for it.

 

unfortunatly the answer is a year and counting but each one of these things a few more are snapping out of it every day. when they do and their is a understanding who the real enemies are there will be a new understanding that we are not each others....i hope

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2 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

When you start to see this the way I look at it you'll understand.  So I'm going to try as best I can to explain why we are in serious danger.......this is it summarized:

 

 

 

The virus is never going away.  Ever.  Endemic.  So something to always be scared of.  

 

Team Karen exists and is also never going away (see the tweet I posted above---proof of Team Karen).

 

Since virus is never going away....will mutate....and be scary.....Team Karen is going to demand that action be taken to keep them safe.

 

Team Karen is a core constituent of the Democrat Party.  They will demand that the Democrats DO SOMETHING to always keep them forever safe.  Even if it means "new normal" because they are demented.  They put their 2 year olds in masks.  We're training the next generation of Karens as we speak.  It's been that long.  

 

So the evil people in power (all of them) are being told by....let's say Team Karen is about 40% plus of America......to keep them safe; and that means willingly giving powers we have watched them exert for almost ONE FULL YEAR.  With no "end game" (the biggest red flag).  

 

The rest of the country is going along because we'll I'm getting PPP, I can totally keep working from home this is awesome, and oh we get paid $2000 every so often.  Cool!  And unemployment more then my crap job?  Yes please.  These can become permanent fixtures bc the mob + politicians pleasing the mob is why this goes on.  

 

Worse, those among the rest of the country trying to call this path out as unsustainable and must stop now, are silenced from the public square and are guilted into going along with it because you're just a maskhole if you don't.  

 

 

 

In other words Doc.  You're looking at the virus and saying essentially this should end.  It's a virus we're vaccinating now!  No.  Not going to work like that.  

 

When you look at how the public eagerly and willingly has ceded rights to power without even questioning anything...the media won't either....this goes on and on and on.  The changes will be permanent and life never gets back to normal.  

 

Kids in 9th grade right now are looking at never dancing with a girl at Homecoming.  Not socializing as normal.  Getting a 5th rate education.  Parents are missing out on seeing what they've waited for years to see---their kids perform in high school in choir or band or athletics or basically anything.  

 

One year of that is gone.  Year 2 is coming and it's going to be the same.  

 

You have no clue how wrong I want to be.  So wrong. 

 

Unfortunately I know exactly what has and will continue to happen because we (too many of us) decided its up to government and their massive corporation buddies to lead us through this.  

 

Big Government and Big Corporations.

 

Good luck y'all.  Full disaster.  

The "Karen's" you cite are about 5% of the population at most.  You'll always have societal leaches but most people want to work.  The stimulus checks are generous (and necessary to keep our economy afloat) but not permanent.

 

How am I nearly positive at the very latest a year from now life will be back to as close as normal as pre pandemic?  Schools and businesses fully open.  No masks.  People won't stand for it and politicians bend to the will of the people.  It's that simple.  People hate wearing masks.  Younger people hate not being to be going out to the wee hours of the morning on the weekend.  Religious people get a lot more out of in person worship than telewhatever.  People miss being able to go to large parties and see their extended family.  Post pandemic habits will be slower to change.  It sucks right now but it will eventually get better.

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6 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

When you start to see this the way I look at it you'll understand.  So I'm going to try as best I can to explain why we are in serious danger.......this is it summarized:

 

 

 

The virus is never going away.  Ever.  Endemic.  So something to always be scared of.  

 

Team Karen exists and is also never going away (see the tweet I posted above---proof of Team Karen).

 

Since virus is never going away....will mutate....and be scary.....Team Karen is going to demand that action be taken to keep them safe.

 

Team Karen is a core constituent of the Democrat Party.  They will demand that the Democrats DO SOMETHING to always keep them forever safe.  Even if it means "new normal" because they are demented.  They put their 2 year olds in masks.  We're training the next generation of Karens as we speak.  It's been that long.  

 

So the evil people in power (all of them) are being told by....let's say Team Karen is about 40% plus of America......to keep them safe; and that means willingly giving powers we have watched them exert for almost ONE FULL YEAR.  With no "end game" (the biggest red flag).  

 

The rest of the country is going along because we'll I'm getting PPP, I can totally keep working from home this is awesome, and oh we get paid $2000 every so often.  Cool!  And unemployment more then my crap job?  Yes please.  These can become permanent fixtures bc the mob + politicians pleasing the mob is why this goes on.  

 

Worse, those among the rest of the country trying to call this path out as unsustainable and must stop now, are silenced from the public square and are guilted into going along with it because you're just a maskhole if you don't.  

 

 

 

In other words Doc.  You're looking at the virus and saying essentially this should end.  It's a virus we're vaccinating now!  No.  Not going to work like that.  

 

When you look at how the public eagerly and willingly has ceded rights to power without even questioning anything...the media won't either....this goes on and on and on.  The changes will be permanent and life never gets back to normal.  

 

Kids in 9th grade right now are looking at never dancing with a girl at Homecoming.  Not socializing as normal.  Getting a 5th rate education.  Parents are missing out on seeing what they've waited for years to see---their kids perform in high school in choir or band or athletics or basically anything.  

 

One year of that is gone.  Year 2 is coming and it's going to be the same.  

 

You have no clue how wrong I want to be.  So wrong. 

 

Unfortunately I know exactly what has and will continue to happen because we (too many of us) decided its up to government and their massive corporation buddies to lead us through this.  

 

Big Government and Big Corporations.

 

Good luck y'all.  Full disaster.  

These mask mandates and other mitigation measures will go away in time, just like they did after the Spanish Flu epidemic (which was worse than this one) and just like they have after every other epidemic.

 

Try not to live such a depressing life.

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10 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

 

Presented in pure embarrassment.  

That truly borders on satire.

 

"Should we see if they will do it, just for fun?"  -conversations inside the CDC

 

Multiple masks....multiple vaccines....

 

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22 minutes ago, dpberr said:

That truly borders on satire.

 

"Should we see if they will do it, just for fun?"  -conversations inside the CDC

 

Multiple masks....multiple vaccines....

 

You may think that’s satire but last night here in Southern California the newscaster was talking about TRIPLE masks. I kid you not!

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A senior U.K. scientist warned Thursday that the variant of the coronavirus-borne illness COVID-19 that first emerged there and is far more infectious than the original virus could “sweep the world” and complicate the effort to contain the pandemic.

 

 

The new comes as California Gov. Gavin Newsom confirmed that the variant that first emerged in South Africa has now been detected in two cases in the Golden State. That variant worries experts as it is also highly contagious and appears more resistant to the vaccines that have been granted emergency use authorization in the U.S. and elsewhere.....

 

....The World Health Organization weighed in on the AstraZeneca vaccine on Thursday, and said it was “highly effective and safe” even if it less effective in dealing with the South Africa variant.

 

....The company also said it would take six to nine months to create modified version of the vaccine to target new variants.

 

https://on.mktw.net/3tOicQk

 

 

The variants will continue. 

 

So will the fear.

 

The government will always show you it is taking this very seriously.  

 

And we'll let them.   

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5 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

You may think that’s satire but last night here in Southern California the newscaster was talking about TRIPLE masks. I kid you not!

It is a big psychology experiment on persuasion and control.  I think there's a large segment of the American public that will wear however many masks they are told to wear and take however many vaccines simply because Dr. Fauci thinks it's a good idea and they "feel" he's a stand up guy.  The media has propped this guy up as the beacon of all that is honest and truthful when in fact he's a lifelong government bureaucrat.  

 

It will be interesting to see how people react when everyone is told their two-shot vaccine that they fought for, drove out of their way for, waited in a long line for, is no longer good enough, and you need to go back out there and do it all over again.  

 

So a year from now, you're wearing three masks and have four immunizations of experimental mRNA technology swimming around your body.  

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15 minutes ago, dpberr said:

It is a big psychology experiment on persuasion and control.  I think there's a large segment of the American public that will wear however many masks they are told to wear and take however many vaccines simply because Dr. Fauci thinks it's a good idea and they "feel" he's a stand up guy.  The media has propped this guy up as the beacon of all that is honest and truthful when in fact he's a lifelong government bureaucrat.  

 

It will be interesting to see how people react when everyone is told their two-shot vaccine that they fought for, drove out of their way for, waited in a long line for, is no longer good enough, and you need to go back out there and do it all over again.  

 

So a year from now, you're wearing three masks and have four immunizations of experimental mRNA technology swimming around your body.  

I could not agree more. Fauci is power drunk on fame. He sat in an office in the basement for decades with nobody knowing who he was or what he did, and suddenly he had a hit song.  Now he wants it to be on the radio day and night, but people are simply tired of the song.  Time to move on! 

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34 minutes ago, dpberr said:

It is a big psychology experiment on persuasion and control.  I think there's a large segment of the American public that will wear however many masks they are told to wear and take however many vaccines simply because Dr. Fauci thinks it's a good idea and they "feel" he's a stand up guy.  The media has propped this guy up as the beacon of all that is honest and truthful when in fact he's a lifelong government bureaucrat.  

 

It will be interesting to see how people react when everyone is told their two-shot vaccine that they fought for, drove out of their way for, waited in a long line for, is no longer good enough, and you need to go back out there and do it all over again.  

 

So a year from now, you're wearing three masks and have four immunizations of experimental mRNA technology swimming around your body.  

So the virus isn't real.  How do you explain the dead bodies?

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My God that's such a great point Governor.  

 

 

I'm sure the sycophants in the media will definitely press Biden on this and demand to know why we will tolerate caravans of "migrants" and all the variants they bring with them unchecked across our border. 

 

Virus hot spots like Arizona and the Texas border I'm sure would like an explanation.

 

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CNN Exclusive: WHO Wuhan mission finds possible signs of wider original outbreak in 2019

 

(CNN)Investigators from the World Health Organization (WHO) looking into the origins of coronavirus in China have discovered signs the outbreak was much wider in Wuhan in December 2019 than previously thought, and are urgently seeking access to hundreds of thousands of blood samples from the city that China has not so far let them examine.

 

The lead investigator for the WHO mission, Peter Ben Embarek, told CNN in a wide-ranging interview that the mission had found several signs of the more wide-ranging 2019 spread, including establishing for the first time there were over a dozen strains of the virus in Wuhan already in December. The team also had a chance to speak to the first patient Chinese officials said had been infected, an office worker in his 40s, with no travel history of note, reported infected on December 8.

 

The slow emergence of more detailed data gathered on the WHO's long-awaited trip into China may add to concerns voiced by other scientists studying the origins of the disease that it may have been spreading in China long before its first official emergence in mid-December.

 

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Varients in 2019!!!   Omg!!!

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On 2/11/2021 at 1:24 PM, SoCal Deek said:

I could not agree more. Fauci is power drunk on fame. He sat in an office in the basement for decades with nobody knowing who he was or what he did, and suddenly he had a hit song.  Now he wants it to be on the radio day and night, but people are simply tired of the song.  Time to move on! 

Well, say what you will about Fauci since the COVID outbreak. But it's preposterous to claim that he was some anonymous low-profile bureaucrat before that. He was front-and-center in the HIV/AIDS crisis in the 1980s and 1990s, and it's to his credit that he never shied away from his critics coming at him (at that time) from the left. He is a major figure in the world of infectious disease studies and mitigation strategies, and he has never avoided the public eye.

Maybe you just weren't paying attention ....

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On 2/12/2021 at 11:08 PM, Big Blitz said:

We're going to need a Vaccine death thread

 

 

 

This all  has happened before in 1976.  All of it.  The lockdowns are a new wrinkle in 2020 but otherwise, the big vaccine push feels familiar.  The government's 1976 swine flu immunization program even had it's own Dr. Fauci "personality."  The government, healthcare infrastructure (and media) don't care about the couple broken eggs in making the omelet.  They know there will be broken eggs.  They expect deaths and disabilities as a result of vaccine administration.  It just sucks if you end up being one of those broken eggs.  Nobody is coming to rescue you.

 

They learned from that experience and that's why you have blanket immunity, vaccine "court" and the all to routine 100% denial that a vaccine could ever possibly harm you past a sore arm.  

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8 minutes ago, dpberr said:

This all  has happened before in 1976.  All of it.  The lockdowns are a new wrinkle in 2020 but otherwise, the big vaccine push feels familiar.  The government's 1976 swine flu immunization program even had it's own Dr. Fauci "personality."  The government, healthcare infrastructure (and media) don't care about the couple broken eggs in making the omelet.  They know there will be broken eggs.  They expect deaths and disabilities as a result of vaccine administration.  It just sucks if you end up being one of those broken eggs.  Nobody is coming to rescue you.

 

They learned from that experience and that's why you have blanket immunity, vaccine "court" and the all to routine 100% denial that a vaccine could ever possibly harm you past a sore arm.  

I'm going to need a little more evidence than 'guy who was gonna die soon anyways dies soon after receiving vaccine'.  All vaccines carry a risk.  

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