Buffalo_Gal Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: Tweet of the week!? Subtle. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Subtle. Bligh was a moron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Warren Zevon said: Someone asked if anyone has died because of a lack of PPE. Thousands have died in total - to assume all of those people would be dead if hospitals had adequate amounts of PPE in the beginning of March is ignorant. The disease spread from patients to healthcare providers partly because hospitals were not prepared. Why are you using two different names at the same time? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, westside2 said: Why are you using two different names at the same time? I guess it's farewell Gary Busey, we barely knew thee... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Just now, billsfan1959 said: I guess it's farewell Gary Busey, we barely knew thee... Typical liberals, they claim to be honest, yet they need to keep changing their name. Lol, so dishonest they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I guess it's farewell Gary Busey, we barely knew thee... I was inspired by Trump's mutiny Tweet 3 minutes ago, westside2 said: Typical liberals, they claim to be honest, yet they need to keep changing their name. Lol, so dishonest they are. Same liberal as before westschit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Warren Zevon said: I was inspired by Trump's mutiny Tweet Same liberal as before westschit Lol, you're so childish. Must suck being wrong all the time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, westside2 said: Lol, you're so childish. Must suck being wrong all the time. No, he must suck for other reasons. After all, he must support all of his other aliases too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 The ***** has hit the fan... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, Doc said: The ***** has hit the fan... ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Doc said: The ***** has hit the fan... 6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: ??? I'm guessing it's a reference to Gary Busey's new screen name. It's in Warren Zevon's song named "Lawyers, Guns, and Money". Edited April 14, 2020 by Hedge 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 If you are having a hard time finding a mask, this young lady probably has a very short wait list for her product: 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 40 minutes ago, Doc said: The ***** has hit the fan... Gary hit the fan and came out with a new name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said: I thought there was no room on board for the insincere.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 31 minutes ago, Hedge said: I'm guessing it's a reference to Gary Busey's new screen name. It's in Warren Zevon's song named "Lawyers, Guns, and Money". Thanks, I thought I missed something important. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: Trump was crying it was a hoax, nuff said. His first reaction was the honest one. Anyone with any discernment at all realizes this. Unfortunately, the narrative is so overwhelming he is forced to play his part in this B movie. Once again, the media and government bureaucracies the enemy of the country. Edited April 14, 2020 by Dante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 hours ago, GG said: I wonder about the spin of the new articles. Remember eons ago (last week) when Peter Navarro was hailed for his prescient "warning" to shut down the economy? Well, here's the Revered Peter, courtesy of the paper of "record." I don't know that he ever said to shut down the economy, but he did warn the virus could kill 100s of 1000s. As you know, being aggressive early with testing, isolation, and contact tracing is how some countries were able to prevent the calamity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, TPS said: I don't know that he ever said to shut down the economy, but he did warn the virus could kill 100s of 1000s. As you know, being aggressive early with testing, isolation, and contact tracing is how some countries were able to prevent the calamity. You're probably aware that there are a few things that bosses hate more than alarmist memos that don't offer a solution to the alarm. Unless of course, the memo was written specifically to provide the downside scenario, which we discussed before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Magox said: Ok, if you are talking about the messaging from the top down. Then I agree with you. That was Trump's biggest mistake, how he downplayed it. But if you are referring to the substance, then I don't see how anyone else could have altered the response from what the CDC, Fauci, Medical Experts or the NIH. As I've said all along, his messaging/focus was downplaying it because he was worried about the impact on his economy, which is what he was focusing reelection on. We can argue about some of the substantive things that could've changed the outcome, but I wouldn't put the blame on Trump for any, Bolton maybe, because without that pandemic czar on the NSA, you end up with competing bureaucracies, like FDA/CDC, but that's MMQBing at this point... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 minute ago, GG said: You're probably aware that there are a few things that bosses hate more than alarmist memos that don't offer a solution to the alarm. Unless of course, the memo was written specifically to provide the downside scenario, which we discussed before. So, are you suggesting trump was completely unaware of the severity of the virus then? China lied? It's a nice scapegoat and I'm sure they've been spinning the tale for quite some time now. Those with TLS can't seem to accept any criticism of HIM for anything.... #OrangemanGOD My argument has always been they were fully aware of its severity, but he (and others like Kudlow and mnuchin) was more concerned about the economic/stock market numbers until Wall Street got his attention on March 16th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Even the WaPo is now on board the "it started in a lab" camp -- it only took them finding a way to blame a republican for it before they switched. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in Pasadena Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, Hedge said: If you are having a hard time finding a mask, this young lady probably has a very short wait list for her product: Maybe she's looking ahead? With the obesity epidemic in America, give it a few more weeks and maybe the virus will be too chubby to fit through the holes...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 On 4/12/2020 at 2:13 PM, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/04/10/pennsylvania-93-woman-beer-sign-coronavirus/ Follow-up: 93-year-old woman gets hefty Coors Light delivery after viral plea for more beer by Kenneth Garger Original Article 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, TPS said: I don't know that he ever said to shut down the economy, but he did warn the virus could kill 100s of 1000s. As you know, being aggressive early with testing, isolation, and contact tracing is how some countries were able to prevent the calamity. So, let me get this straight: If A) Being aggressive early is how some countries were able to prevent the calamity of 100s of 1000s dead and B) This country prevented the calamity of 100s of 1000s dead then C) This country must have acted aggressive enough and early enough No? Edited April 14, 2020 by billsfan1959 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Trump meeting with recovered COVID-10 patients today. They are telling their stories, what worked for them (hydroxychloroquine), how they feel now. The Democratic State Rep from Michigan praised him to high heavens. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 46 minutes ago, Hedge said: If you are having a hard time finding a mask, this young lady probably has a very short wait list for her product: And people wonder why I don't think everyone should have the vote? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, TPS said: So, are you suggesting trump was completely unaware of the severity of the virus then? China lied? It's a nice scapegoat and I'm sure they've been spinning the tale for quite some time now. Those with TLS can't seem to accept any criticism of HIM for anything.... #OrangemanGOD My argument has always been they were fully aware of its severity, but he (and others like Kudlow and mnuchin) was more concerned about the economic/stock market numbers until Wall Street got his attention on March 16th. This has been discussed, but I will repeat. Every executive wants an optimistic scenario, base scenario and downside scenario from his subordinates. Plans are always made on the base scenario. It sounds like Navarro prepared the downside scenario. So yeah, the administration knew how bad it COULD get, but nothing that was coming from the health officials in January or February indicated that the downside scenario was playing out. It's easy to say so in retrospect, knowing that that the downside scenario played out. But it was far from the case in January and February. And now that Navarro is warning about the risks of holding too long to reopen the economy, it surely doesn't square with a guy who was supposed to have issued a dire warning in January. Sounds more like he prepared the downside considerations in January (and likely the probability of that downside coming to pass) for Trump to make a decision. Edited April 14, 2020 by GG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: So, let me get this straight: A) If being aggressive early is how some countries were able to prevent the calamity of 100s of 1000s dead and B) This country prevented the calamity of 100s of 1000s dead then C) This country must have acted aggressive enough and early enough No? 1. Navarro warned it could cause a significant number of deaths, and we needed to take it seriously. 2, Those that did take it seriously and did what has been prescribed as how to successfully take it on have the lowest deaths per million (< 5) and I don't think had any significant economic dislocation. Our response has us somewhere in the middle--we're not Italy and we're not Singapore. Could we have been Singapore had we immediately responded? It's possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 18 minutes ago, TPS said: So, are you suggesting trump was completely unaware of the severity of the virus then? China lied? It's a nice scapegoat and I'm sure they've been spinning the tale for quite some time now. Those with TLS can't seem to accept any criticism of HIM for anything.... #OrangemanGOD My argument has always been they were fully aware of its severity, but he (and others like Kudlow and mnuchin) was more concerned about the economic/stock market numbers until Wall Street got his attention on March 16th. Wall Street was getting hit hard in the middle of February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, TPS said: 1. Navarro warned it could cause a significant number of deaths, and we needed to take it seriously. 2, Those that did take it seriously and did what has been prescribed as how to successfully take it on have the lowest deaths per million (< 5) and I don't think had any significant economic dislocation. Our response has us somewhere in the middle--we're not Italy and we're not Singapore. Could we have been Singapore had we immediately responded? It's possible... I think Singapore is a poor example to use, given the population and location. I think if you want to use an example, it should be a country with a substantial population and a significant number of cases. In that category, South Korea is in a league by itself. Personally, I feel like South Korea is an outlier and the example that should be used is Germany. I would put us much closer to germany than Italy, Spain, France, UK, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo_Gal Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: </snip> Today, the Department filed a Statement of Interest in support of a church in Mississippi that allegedly sought to hold parking lot worship services, in which congregants listened to their pastor preach over their car radios, while sitting in their cars in the church parking lot with their windows rolled up. The City of Greenville fined congregants $500 per person for attending these parking lot services – while permitting citizens to attend nearby drive-in restaurants, even with their windows open.[1] The City appears to have thereby singled churches out as the only essential service (as designated by the state of Mississippi) that may not operate despite following all CDC and state recommendations regarding social distancing. </snip> 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I think Singapore is a poor example to use, given the population and location. I think if you want to use an example, it should be a country with a substantial population and a significant number of cases. In that category, South Korea is in a league by itself. Personally, I feel like South Korea is an outlier and the example that should be used is Germany. I would put us much closer to germany than Italy, Spain, France, UK, etc. Speaking of the Singaporean myth, especially in applying it to the US .... Had a chat with a colleague there this morning, and she gave a quick recap. The city-state had stellar precautions with a hard & fast response early on. Those efforts worked initially, and the city wasn't totally clamped down. However, a second wave just hit, largely from foreigners and the city is on full lock down now, when it wasn't for the first wave. New case growth is double digits after they thought it was contained. Now the border is shut completely, everyone is required to wear a mask, no group gatherings are allowed and the extreme contact tracking is in force. She said that life was fairly normal there until a week ago. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 The race to find a covid-19 drug in the blood of survivors. Some Rational Perspectives on COVID-19. COVID19 update, April 13, 2020: Italy and Israel grappling with exit strategies. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: Well, you are an expert in dumb So, there's that.... Took you that long for a response and this is all you could manage? Trump said he loves the uneducated... B.c those are his biggest supporters. Edited April 14, 2020 by Hardhatharry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 55 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: I think Singapore is a poor example to use, given the population and location. I think if you want to use an example, it should be a country with a substantial population and a significant number of cases. In that category, South Korea is in a league by itself. Personally, I feel like South Korea is an outlier and the example that should be used is Germany. I would put us much closer to germany than Italy, Spain, France, UK, etc. Taiwan, Singapore, and SK are lumped into the top category for how they dealt with it. Do I think we could've done that? No. Do I think we could've done better, yes. You won't like it, but the fact that Fox and trump were down playing it didn't help. I'm also with GG on the fact that you have 50 states with different reactions and policies too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) Researching cd147. Lots people saying this virus can get into ACE2 and CD147 . Red blood cells (maybe immune system cells with 147?) and many more cells. Little evidence on it right now going to try to study deeper into it. The interesting part is again chloroquine or hydrochloroquine works on CD 147 treat malaria. Role in malaria[edit] It has recently (November 2011) been found that basigin is a receptor that is essential to erythrocyte invasion by most strains of Plasmodium falciparum, the most virulent species of the plasmodium parasites that cause human malaria. It is hoped that by developing antibodies to the parasite ligand for Basigin, Rh5, a better vaccine for malaria might be found.[7] Basigin is bound by the PfRh5 protein on the surface of the malaria parasite. Role in SARS-CoV-2 infection (COVID-19)[edit] The host-cell-expressed basigin (CD147) may bind spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 and possibly be involved in host cell invasion.[17] Consequently, meplazumab, a humanized anti-CD147 antibody has been tested in patients with SARS-CoV-2 pneumonia.[18] The exact role and significance of basigin in COVID-19 is still unknown (as of March 2020). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basigin No way if this is from a bat. Looking more lab made. Not saying true but a possibility. Needs more research on CD147. I think sometime scientists going to find this out as well. Edited April 14, 2020 by Buffalo Bills Fan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melon Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 On 3/26/2020 at 11:49 AM, Donald Trump said: Tibs, Tibs, Tibs...where did your mother and I go wrong? DONALD!!!!! You're telling me you have another illegitimate child? And it's TIBS?!?!?! bebestmelaniabebestmelaniabebestmelaniabebestmelaniabebestmelaniabebestmelaniabebestmelaniabebestmelania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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