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The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19


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The below tweet is from the "Spokesperson & Deputy Director General, Information Department, Foreign Ministry."

 

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6 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

Has anyone considered the difficulty Joe Biden will have if he ever goes out on the campaign trail again? Sure, he'll  keep his 6' space from other people. 

This is the most plausible conspiracy theory I've read on here.  Insert Hillary Clinton at the convention after Joe goes down from an arm wrestling challenge by an infected Ohio truck driver.

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11 hours ago, Foxx said:

not exactly sure what you are disputing in that tweet.

 

are you saying that of 100,00 Chinese nationals from Wuhan/Wenzhou, that not a one who returned after Chinese New Year brought back the coronavirus with them? if that is what you are saying, it seems rather a illogical contention.

 

That tweet says things appearing to be obvious, but let me tell me something.

 

1) First of all, chinese community in Italy in 300.000 units, the fact that one third of chinese people was away from Italy for the new year eve is way exagerrated.

 

2) Chinese community was very aware of the problem, WAY MORE THAN ITALIANS. For the sake of not spreading the covid into their own community they put themselves in quarantine. I have a close friend who is engaged to a chinese girl, I have direct information of the chinese community of my city.

And we called them crazy, we used to make fun of them, their masks and their paranoia.

 

3) In Italy there are 12463 confirmed cases of covid, with 827 deaths. Do you know how many chinese people are among them?

The answer is TWO, and they are not italian-chinese residents, they were two tourists that were confirmed in Rome before the famous italian PATIENT ONE.

No other chinese was tested positive, no other chinese was attacched to an artificial respirator.

How do you explain that?

 

4) We live in a globalized world, LOT and LOT of people traveled from Hubei to Europe (and to the US) in the days when the disease was INCUBATING. People from Italy, France, UK, Spain, Germany travelled from Hubei and back. For sure way more that 100.000. For most of the infected people the disease is just a normal flu, and people spread the disease silently until a serious case (the infamous PATIENT ONE) was found.

 

5) A lot of speculation was made in Italy about the PATIENT ZERO. How the PATIENT ONE got infected, he may have been infected in a chinese "massage" center...maybe during the "happy ending" handjob? Listen, almost all Italian thought about this, but this just crap you say to have some laughs with friends.

According to some sources, the person who brought the disease to Europe is a german guy.

 

So now, do you still think that this tweet was so "obvious" ?

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2 hours ago, Hedge said:

 

 

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The below tweet is from the "Spokesperson & Deputy Director General, Information Department, Foreign Ministry."

 

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This could better than nothing, but it is dangerous.

Here in Italy a person who has symptoms call from home and specialists visit him in order to perform the test.

A suspected case travelling around is a good way to spread the virus.

Be careful folks.

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9 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:


And it’s not a conspiracy regardless. There’s no conspiratorial element to what you theorized. 

 

 

I was just giving my long time ppp pal some grief. Coming from the guy (me) who is a long-time conspiracy theorist...?

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13 hours ago, Turk71 said:

  David Brody is a chief political analyst for Pat Robertson’s Christian Broadcasting network. He, like many evangelicals, is also one of President Trump’s most vocal supporters. But in a tweet this Thursday, he took the unusual step of taking Trump to task over his claims that “anybody” that needs a test for coronavirus will get a test on demand. 

  Brody tweeted video showing Trump’s comments while touring the Atlanta CDC headquarters, where he can be seen saying, “They’re there, they have the tests". “Anybody that needs a test gets a test,” Trump says in the video.

  Brody tweets:

   On Friday March 6th, @realDonaldTrump said, ‘Anybody that needs a test gets a test.’ That is 100% FALSE. Full stop,” Brody wrote. “He was wrong then and it’s wrong today too. Many American citizens want a #coronavirus test right now but can’t get access to one. This is a MAJOR FAILURE.”

   In a subsequent tweet, Brody slammed Trump’s leadership skills.

“Being a great leader has many attributes,” he wrote. “Confusing people is not among them. @realDonaldTrump provided false information about testing…multiple times! Invoking hyperbole in certain situations may be permissible but false statements about the #Coronavirus is sloppy & dangerous.”

 

  Even some Trump supporters recognize that lying and making things up is not a viable strategy when dealing with real problems. I'm not into party politics and prefer to think for myself but watching Trump and Pence is like watching a clown show. 

 

So NOW we care what evangelicals have to say?

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….impossible....Joe told me "they are our friends"...……..

 

China hints at denying Americans life-saving coronavirus drugs

By Barnini Chakraborty | Fox News

Now that the number of new people infected with the coronavirus in China is slowing down, the country's Communist Party is ratcheting up threats against the West, with a particularly nasty warning about access to life-saving drugs aimed at the United States.

In an article in Xinhua, the state-run media agency that's largely considered the mouthpiece of the party, Beijing bragged about its handling of COVID-19, a virus that originated in the city of Wuhan and has spread quickly around the world, killing nearly 5,000 people and infecting thousands more. The article also claimed that China could impose pharmaceutical export controls which would plunge America into "the mighty sea of coronavirus."

https://www.foxnews.com/world/chinese-deny-americans-coronavirus-drugs

 

 

 

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Also in Italy the mob assaulted the supermarkets two weeks ago.

This is very stupid because goods don't go out of order and massing people rise up in a significative way the probability of infection.

 

Now in every shop that are allowed to be open, like pharmacies and grocery shops only a few people are let to get in, the others are waiting outside, in a queue but far one from each other. Yesterday I waited 15 minutes to go to the supermarket, but there was no any shortage of anything.

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4 hours ago, PaoloBillsFanFromItaly said:

 

That tweet says things appearing to be obvious, but let me tell me something.

 

1) First of all, chinese community in Italy in 300.000 units, the fact that one third of chinese people was away from Italy for the new year eve is way exagerrated.

 

2) Chinese community was very aware of the problem, WAY MORE THAN ITALIANS. For the sake of not spreading the covid into their own community they put themselves in quarantine. I have a close friend who is engaged to a chinese girl, I have direct information of the chinese community of my city.

And we called them crazy, we used to make fun of them, their masks and their paranoia.

 

3) In Italy there are 12463 confirmed cases of covid, with 827 deaths. Do you know how many chinese people are among them?

The answer is TWO, and they are not italian-chinese residents, they were two tourists that were confirmed in Rome before the famous italian PATIENT ONE.

No other chinese was tested positive, no other chinese was attacched to an artificial respirator.

How do you explain that?

 

4) We live in a globalized world, LOT and LOT of people traveled from Hubei to Europe (and to the US) in the days when the disease was INCUBATING. People from Italy, France, UK, Spain, Germany travelled from Hubei and back. For sure way more that 100.000. For most of the infected people the disease is just a normal flu, and people spread the disease silently until a serious case (the infamous PATIENT ONE) was found.

 

5) A lot of speculation was made in Italy about the PATIENT ZERO. How the PATIENT ONE got infected, he may have been infected in a chinese "massage" center...maybe during the "happy ending" handjob? Listen, almost all Italian thought about this, but this just crap you say to have some laughs with friends.

According to some sources, the person who brought the disease to Europe is a german guy.

 

So now, do you still think that this tweet was so "obvious" ?

what i think is that you are being somewhat disingenuous. as well as perhaps being a bit of naive with regard to certain aspects.

 

you say that it is thought that one German guy brought the virus to Italy. while that could be true, discounting the possibility that a Chinese nationalist brought it from a place where it is believed to have originated and many of those Chinese nationalists are from the suspected origin is not being totally honest.

 

yes, i have no idea whether or not the tweet and hence the article is true but it is not just some willy nilly tweet, the guy in question is a 'blue check mark' and based a portion of his article on a Reuters article. as i say though, i really don't know and am just trying to look for truth.

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