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What position does Beane prioritize in FA?

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I really think this draft particular we should load on skill talent and maybe add LB depth later on ...but free agency we need an edge rusher and possibly a RT to move Cody Ford to guard which he seems better suited to play 

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20 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

I don't get the obsession with adding to the defense. The Bills should be making the offense the priority in FA and the draft. These playoffs have shown you need to score points to win. The Bills offense didn't do enough of that. 

Typically number 1 WR's don't hit free agency. I mean who is the target on offense? Amari Cooper isn't getting to free agency. AJ Green would be nice but what exactly are we getting? I'de rather go through the draft or trade. 

 

I could see some OL hitting free agency that would help but I think they like their OL.

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22 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:


They have Nsekhe at RT

Why would Murphy be out? He’s performing like a rotational EDGE guy should 

Rotational LB should be an easy 2nd wave fill

Agree on WR

I would be targeting a starting tier RB to pair with Motor. You can get them cheap, there are almost always injuries, and there’s always a good reason to have 2 players that can handle 15 carries per game. Look at SF.

No way are both Kroft and Smith out. Maybe (probably?) Kroft. Smith only saves $2.5M that they don’t really need and they’ll definitely want to keep him as a locker room guy. They’ll probably keep 4 again, and those 4 will be Knox/Smith/Sweeney/Croom.

I’d like another stud CB, but reality says that they can get by just fine with a KJ-level player.

Thank you, people keep wanting to cut Murphy yet we're paying him relatively half what a guy like JJ Watt gets, people act like the $7 million is starters money. He's getting paid for what he does, to toss that aside is foolish unless paying someone less that's as productive which we don't have. 

 

Kroft and Smith both could be gone if we think Sweeney is the future and we can find a better starter (I'd love to sign Henry). I can't see Croom making this team as think Sweeney has more upside.

 

A starting caliber CB be nice to add but that's a luxury until we shore up a replacement for LoRax, Shaq, Jordan Phillips and depth at LB.  

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Typically number 1 WR's don't hit free agency. I mean who is the target on offense? Amari Cooper isn't getting to free agency. AJ Green would be nice but what exactly are we getting? I'de rather go through the draft or trade. 

 

I could see some OL hitting free agency that would help but I think they like their OL.

A guy like Devin Funchess could give us size and while he may not be a true #1 he'd still be better than all but Brown on the roster. Toss in he could be cheap coming off an injury. I'd risk it and draft a guy in the first three rounds to compete (I like Michael Pittman Jr in the 2nd). 

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9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Typically number 1 WR's don't hit free agency. I mean who is the target on offense? Amari Cooper isn't getting to free agency. AJ Green would be nice but what exactly are we getting? I'de rather go through the draft or trade. 

 

I could see some OL hitting free agency that would help but I think they like their OL.

I agree about the WR position I would actually draft and try a trade maybe with Tampa , what kind of trade for a  WR would you like Bills to go after?

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27 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

I really think this draft particular we should load on skill talent and maybe add LB depth later on ...but free agency we need an edge rusher and possibly a RT to move Cody Ford to guard which he seems better suited to play 

Very good sir.....very good.

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46 minutes ago, Putin said:

I agree about the WR position I would actually draft and try a trade maybe with Tampa , what kind of trade for a  WR would you like Bills to go after?

I'm sure he's advocating trading for Mike Evans, yet not sure giving up the picks to get him are worth it as we aren't one player away. 

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13 hours ago, Dkollidas said:

I believe it will he edge rusher.

 

In his press conference he really got a bit more detailed about how there’s not enough elite pass rushers for each team in the league and how important a position it is. 
 

I think they realize the defense could be do for a slight regression, and that edge is one of the few places they could make a splash that would change that defense around overnight. 
 

I also believe there’s better money to be spent on the edge position than any in free agency. Ngakoue, Clowney, Vic Beasley, Dante Fowler, hell Jason Pierre-Paul had 8.5 sacks in 10 games. Robert Quinn, Mario Addison... etc etc. 

 

 

 

I agree with you that edge rusher is the absolute #1 position of need, we have the cap and I believe Jadaveon Clowney will be the target. He said he wants to go to a SB contender and I think this team is on the rise, maybe he'll see it that way also. I think we unload the Murphy contract that has been a bust since signing him as a FA, hey Beane took a swing and missed, it happens. 

 

I think after edge rusher we go for an OL, LG/RT either one of those positions would help tremendously then see if Ford is even serviceable as a RG or maybe a LT since Dawkins wasn't that great either. All I know is this line at times looked great but also got whipped bad by the Texans in the playoff game. We need at least 2 positions filled along the OL in either FA or the draft or both and to me they are either LG/RT (I was disappointed in Spain and Ford but I think we can kick Ford over to RG but that remains to be seen?.

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Our guy seems pretty damn good at finding B players ready to move into A- status.

 

For the first time in decades I absolutely trust our leadership team to be smart with FA and draft. Mistakes will be made, the nature of the beast, but these guys and the 'growth mindset' philosophy is a self-correcting strategy.

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13 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

I'm sure he's advocating trading for Mike Evans, yet not sure giving up the picks to get him are worth it as we aren't one player away. 

You don't think adding someone like Mike Evens would give us a TRUE # 1 WR that IMO we desperately need AND would solidify our WR core ?

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I understand that we need to spread the wealth , but I think offense must be our First priority we will not get far with scoring 16 points a game no matter how good our defense is , and BTW didn't we have a # 3 ranked defense this year ? How about our offense ? 

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7 minutes ago, Putin said:

You don't think adding someone like Mike Evens would give us a TRUE # 1 WR that IMO we desperately need AND would solidify our WR core ?

It would but I also spot holes at RB, TE, RT, LG (pending what happens with Spain), DE, OLB and CB. Again, not one player away. 

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I think the easiest way for us to make a huge jump next year is to let Spain walk due to kicking Ford inside, and then make a run at Conklin for RT.   That right there, is a very good OL.

 

Then on defense, let Phillips walk, re-sign Lawson and Johnson, then target Ngakoue.

 

Higgins in the 1st.  Dobbins in the 2nd.  Linebacker in the 3rd. 

 

It all seems so simple on paper...

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14 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

It would but I also spot holes at RB, TE, RT, LG (pending what happens with Spain), DE, OLB and CB. Again, not one player away. 

Yes we are not one player away , but we were one catch away from moving from Houston to KC  we had to settle for 3 field goals if we score one TD that game would have been OVER , Texans had the worst defense coming in to the playoffs and we could only muster 3 points in the second half ? 

How are we supposed to compete with a teams like KC ? 

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If you consider Beane's approach to-date, how close we are to competing for a championship and the young core that we have; then I think that he spends on 1-2 playmakers this offseason.

 

For example, the 49ers added Dee Ford and Emanuel Sanders... I could see something like this happening; then continue to draft well, add a few tier 2 free agents (OL/DB) keep and develop our own.

 

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Defensive end. Jerry is nearing the end here and a part time player. Shaq is a FA and Lorax (though he is not a DE had rotational reps) is retiring. I do think they may wind up cutting Murphy, simply base on the cap savings and the fact that his production does not match the salary. Maybe ask him to take a pay cut. 

 

I don't love Yannick Ngakoue's game honestly and don't think he is a great fit for what McDermott wants to do. I also don't think he is a good locker room guy. I know that people think that Clowney is a diva and a selfish guy...I actually think that applies to Ngakoue much more. I think Clowney makes sense, and he is the prototype.  I don't really like Vic Beasley or Dante Fowler much either, in terms of their fit.

 

Outside of Clowney maybe you can look at the next tier like a Robert Quinn type. I also think Leonard Williams could be interesting as a 4-3 DE if he lost like 15-20lbs. 

 

So plan A sign Clowney. 

 

Plan B, sign Leonard Williams and a hybrid guy like Kyler Fackrell/Bruce Irvin. Base downs Williams plays LE and Fackrell/Irvin plays SAM. In passing situations Fackrell goes to DE and Williams goes in side and rushes the passer next to Ed Oliver. You are basically replacing Lorax, Shaq, Murphy and J. Phillips. Just my 2 cents. 

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1 hour ago, thebandit27 said:


They have Nsekhe at RT

Why would Murphy be out? He’s performing like a rotational EDGE guy should 

Rotational LB should be an easy 2nd wave fill

Agree on WR

I would be targeting a starting tier RB to pair with Motor. You can get them cheap, there are almost always injuries, and there’s always a good reason to have 2 players that can handle 15 carries per game. Look at SF.

No way are both Kroft and Smith out. Maybe (probably?) Kroft. Smith only saves $2.5M that they don’t really need and they’ll definitely want to keep him as a locker room guy. They’ll probably keep 4 again, and those 4 will be Knox/Smith/Sweeney/Croom.

I’d like another stud CB, but reality says that they can get by just fine with a KJ-level player.

Would be nice to see them being in a guy like Hooper or Ebron.... but yea wouldn't surprise me if they are fine with what they got.... which is average at best. 

 

Not sure Arizona would let him walk, but I'd love to see them bring in Drake. 

3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Watt battered Ford all day.  Where do you move him to?

Inside. My guess is LG to replace Spain. They aren't going to give up on a 2nd round pick this early even though it looks like a bad one to this point. 

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4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Would be nice to see them being in a guy like Hooper or Ebron.... but yea wouldn't surprise me if they are fine with what they got.... which is average at best. 

 

Not sure Arizona would let him walk, but I'd love to see them bring in Drake. 

Inside. My guess is LG to replace Spain. They aren't going to give up on a 2nd round pick this early even though it looks like a bad one to this point. 

 

AJ Brown or DK Metcalf would look real nice right now...

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2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

AJ Brown or DK Metcalf would look real nice right now...

Still shocked they didn't draft one WR last year. 

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Just now, ScottLaw said:

Still shocked they didn't draft one WR last year. 

 

This FO struggles with that.

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9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Would be nice to see them being in a guy like Hooper or Ebron.... but yea wouldn't surprise me if they are fine with what they got.... which is average at best. 

 

Not sure Arizona would let him walk, but I'd love to see them bring in Drake. 

Inside. My guess is LG to replace Spain. They aren't going to give up on a 2nd round pick this early even though it looks like a bad one to this point. 

 

It wouldn't be giving up on Ford to move him inside.  If he is, as his scouting report suggested, a potential pro-bowl caliber G, there's nothing wrong with that. 

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3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

This FO struggles with that.

If we don't put ALL the effort / resources in to improving the offense I will be really disappointed , sick and tired to even talk about defense when our offense is ranked almost next to LAST 

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Just now, Putin said:

If we don't ALL the effort / resources in to improving the offense I will be really disappointed , sick and tired to even talk about defense when our offense is ranked almost next to LAST 

 

McD was clear that he thinks this team does not need a "#1 WR", so don't be too surprised or disappointed with more of the same.

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1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

McD was clear that he thinks this team does not need a "#1 WR", so don't be too surprised or disappointed with more of the same.

  just think about this 16 points IS ALL we could muster against one of the worst defense  in the league ,  bottom line is this if we can not score 24-27 points a game consistently we are not going ANYWHERE , look at our schedule next season 

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13 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

It wouldn't be giving up on Ford to move him inside.  If he is, as his scouting report suggested, a potential pro-bowl caliber G, there's nothing wrong with that. 

Exactly.

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