PatsFanNH Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 I saw this on bleacher report , per them Tre White has been targeted 81 times and has NOT given up a TD. The next closest was at 50, and the. JC Jackson at 40. So he is 1st by a HUGE Margin. I don’t see many Bills games so I was wondering does he usually lock up the number 1 receiver or do the Bills double the #1 and put White 1 on 1 with their #2 option? (I’m curious either way it’s an amazing stat!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 If I'm McD/Frazier I have one thought going into this game: we will not let Hopkins beat us. However they get that done -- whether it's having Tre shadow him or making sure he's double covered all day -- I will be surprised if Hopkins has a big game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, eball said: If I'm McD/Frazier I have one thought going into this game: we will not let Hopkins beat us. However they get that done -- whether it's having Tre shadow him or making sure he's double covered all day -- I will be surprised if Hopkins has a big game. I mean it’s kinda stupid every team playing the Texans don’t have the same thought process. The thing with Watson is he will throw at White so White will have more chances to make plays than he does most games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 not bad for the 15th-best cornerback in the league 1 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: I saw this on bleacher report , per them Tre White has been targeted 81 times and has NOT given up a TD. The next closest was at 50, and the. JC Jackson at 40. So he is 1st by a HUGE Margin. I don’t see many Bills games so I was wondering does he usually lock up the number 1 receiver or do the Bills double the #1 and put White 1 on 1 with their #2 option? (I’m curious either way it’s an amazing stat!) He shadows depending on the situation. Here are some of the WRs he has shadowed this year per rotoworld Week 9 vs. Terry McLaurin: 4 receptions-39 yards-0 TD (6 targets) Week 10 vs. Odell Beckham: 5-57-0 (12) Week 11 vs. DeVante Parker: 7-135-0 (10) Week 12 vs. Courtland Sutton: 1-27-0 (8) also - Diggs last year 17 yards Edited January 2, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share Posted January 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, RiotAct said: not bad for the 15th-best cornerback in the league Really? I have him in my top 10 almost top 5 (he is #6 on my list) 8 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He shadows depending on the situation. Here are some of the WRs he has shadowed this year per rotoworld Week 9 vs. Terry McLaurin: 4 receptions-39 yards-0 TD (6 targets) Week 10 vs. Odell Beckham: 5-57-0 (12) Week 11 vs. DeVante Parker: 7-135-0 (10) Week 12 vs. Courtland Sutton: 1-27-0 (8) also - Diggs last year 17 yards Parker is a real Pain to cover for even the top CB it seems. (Amazing job on OBJ!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 He's a stud! ?????? Look at McD just leaving White 1 on 1 with OBJ by the goal line. Tres technique, speed , awareness are just phenomenal. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, RiotAct said: not bad for the 15th-best cornerback in the league #lolpff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Really? I have him in my top 10 almost top 5 (he is #6 on my list) That's in reference to PFF and their strange rankings. 6th is too low, BTW. It's Gilmore and White in a class of their own at this point. Have to give the edge to Gilmore because he plays more man and is on an island by himself more often, but even though the Bills play zone they often have White shadow the top receiver anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Can’t let Hyde and the run game set up the big play to Hopkins. Letting him loose on Wallace or Taron Johnson will be a mistake. That’s how teams have beaten the Bills this year, and the Texans will approach this game no different. The key to victory on defense is stopping the run. Hopkins and Watson can’t beat this defense alone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 58 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He shadows depending on the situation. Here are some of the WRs he has shadowed this year per rotoworld Week 9 vs. Terry McLaurin: 4 receptions-39 yards-0 TD (6 targets) Week 10 vs. Odell Beckham: 5-57-0 (12) Week 11 vs. DeVante Parker: 7-135-0 (10) Week 12 vs. Courtland Sutton: 1-27-0 (8) also - Diggs last year 17 yards White wasn't on Parker for every snap. I just watched every Parker catch in that game and it looks like you can tag 5 of those catches on White for around 70-80 yards. Parker had a big gain in that game when White wasn't anywhere near him. Granted, Parker also had a big game where White got caught peeking into the backfield and jumped a route and Parker got behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said: I saw this on bleacher report , per them Tre White has been targeted 81 times and has NOT given up a TD. The next closest was at 50, and the. JC Jackson at 40. So he is 1st by a HUGE Margin. I don’t see many Bills games so I was wondering does he usually lock up the number 1 receiver or do the Bills double the #1 and put White 1 on 1 with their #2 option? (I’m curious either way it’s an amazing stat!) 599 coverage snaps as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Well, he should be good, he knows all the plays 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 I think the key is going to be the OTHER CBs and how well they are able to defend crossing routes, slants, etc. While Tre has handled his business against opposing teams' top WR, it has been the other DBs who have struggled against slot WRs (Edelman, Landry, Crowder, etc.). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Tre White > Jairus Byrd (even though he was a safety) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: Really? I have him in my top 10 almost top 5 (he is #6 on my list) Parker is a real Pain to cover for even the top CB it seems. (Amazing job on OBJ!) Sarcasm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Sarcasm? at this point and with how he's been playing I honestly think anyone not listing him in the top 3 just hasn't been paying attention.... NFL.com just did a write up projecting the all pro selections from this year and both the writers, one using the "eye test" and the other using "next gen stats" had him getting a nod as one of the 2 corners to grab the honor. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001093805/article/2019-nfl-allpro-teams-eye-test-vs-next-gen-stats-defense Cornerbacks Wesseling: Stephon Gilmore, New England Patriots; Tre'Davious White, Buffalo Bills. Gilmore finally allowed a touchdown in coverage on John Brown's 53-yard bomb in Week 16, leaving White as the cornerback with the most targets (83) without surrendering a score, per NFL Research. It's not every year that the interception leaderboard is headlined by the stingiest cover corners, but Gilmore and White sit atop the charts with six apiece while also ranking first (26) and second (23) in passes defensed, respectively. Gilmore ranked among the top three corners with an opposing passer rating of 47.4. Those numbers are all the more impressive considering New England's secondary lines up in man-to-man coverage as frequently as any team in the league. Gilmore is the key chess piece on a defense that is only the third since 2002 to amass 25 or more interceptions while holding opposing passers to a rating under 63.0. Capable of taking over games by erasing No. 1 wideouts and forcing timely turnovers, White is perhaps the lone week-to-week difference-maker on a Bills squad that reached double-digit victories for the first time this century. Shook: Stephon Gilmore, New England Patriots; Tre'Davious White, Buffalo Bills. Stephon Gilmore has owned the throne as the league's best corner for most of the season, and the advanced metrics back that up. Among those who were targeted 50-plus times, Gilmore was second in catch rate below expectation at -11.8 percent, second in ball-hawk rate (20.8 percent; this is the percentage of targets where the nearest defender made a play on the football), first in passes defended with 20 and tied for the lead in interceptions with six. He also ranked seventh in coverage success rate (60.4 percent) and allowed opposing passers to log just a 38.0 passer rating when targeted, second-best among that group. Only teammate J.C. Jackson, who faced nearly half as many targets (58) as Gilmore (96), was better in that department (allowing a passer rating of 21.8 when targeted). Gilmore's numbers and the tape don't lie: He's a premier cornerback. White's opposing catch rate below expectation is a bit less substantial, but at -8.4 percent, he still ranks sixth among those who were targeted at least 50 times. His hawk rate (20.2 percent) ranks third among that group, and his opposing passer rating allowed is just barely below Gilmore's, at 38.9. White is also tied atop the interception leaderboard with Gilmore at six, isn't far off in passes defended with 17, forces passes into tight windows on 28.6 percent of targets and allows just 4.0 yards after the catch on average. He's right up there with the best in the league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 hours ago, JerseyBills said: He's a stud! ?????? Look at McD just leaving White 1 on 1 with OBJ by the goal line. Tres technique, speed , awareness are just phenomenal. 100% he is a stud! Im feeling good about Saturday. The key is if we can get pressure with the 4 man rush and drop our LBs in coverage. Tre will lock down the lady boy Hopkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 I know the patriots don’t have a WR as good as John Brown, but man.......I’ve never seen Tre get beat like Smoke beat Gilmore. Just flat out nasty. Gilmore just gave up because he didn’t want to be on camera any longer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: Really? I have him in my top 10 almost top 5 (he is #6 on my list) That is something I wouldn't necessarily advertise. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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