Josh Allen Stat ... wow

[london_bills]

12 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Agreed. The fact that he mentions "jitters" further solidifies my opinion that a great deal of the accuracy issues are psychological. He's a really bright guy, and it appears as though he's "thinking" instead of "playing" when he's off.

 

If he's going to take that next step, he needs to CONSISTENTLY play and not think. We saw it for a three game stretch so it's attainable. We'll see what happens. If he can't shake it, he could very well stall in his progression or only slightly improve.

 

Didn't like Daboll or his track record coming in and I like him even less now that we've seen both poor play calls AND scolding a QB for a mistake when he's at his best NOT thinking about mistakes. He knew it was a poor throw/decision. What's the point of berating him for it? Absolutely the WRONG approach when it comes to Allen.

 

All that said, he's gotta figure this out somehow. In all likelihood, there isn't gonna be a third coordinator in McDermott's fourth year, so they need to co-exist. 

 

I remember earlier in the season he was doing some kind of hand gesture that had nothing to do with signaling a play call, celebration, etc. It was like a wave type of movement that seemed to be a relaxation "exercise." Not sure why it stopped, but my hope is that with experience, he'll realize that mistakes are going to happen. Shorten that memory and let the chips fall where they may on any given pass. 

I've never played nfl but played uk/us pool to a reasonable level. When the game matters, if I'm not in the right mindset I'm overhitting everything and feeling like I'm not even hitting it. Weird 

[cba fan]

1 hour ago, Special K said:

 

Can someone explain why I’ve been seeing posts that mix capital and lowercase letters like this?

 

Just curious.

it was a mistake. I think.....lol

[Patrick Duffy]

47 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I guess you're the guy?

Ummm no

[london_bills]

16 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Agreed. The fact that he mentions "jitters" further solidifies my opinion that a great deal of the accuracy issues are psychological. He's a really bright guy, and it appears as though he's "thinking" instead of "playing" when he's off.

 

If he's going to take that next step, he needs to CONSISTENTLY play and not think. We saw it for a three game stretch so it's attainable. We'll see what happens. If he can't shake it, he could very well stall in his progression or only slightly improve.

 

Didn't like Daboll or his track record coming in and I like him even less now that we've seen both poor play calls AND scolding a QB for a mistake when he's at his best NOT thinking about mistakes. He knew it was a poor throw/decision. What's the point of berating him for it? Absolutely the WRONG approach when it comes to Allen.

 

All that said, he's gotta figure this out somehow. In all likelihood, there isn't gonna be a third coordinator in McDermott's fourth year, so they need to co-exist. 

 

I remember earlier in the season he was doing some kind of hand gesture that had nothing to do with signaling a play call, celebration, etc. It was like a wave type of movement that seemed to be a relaxation "exercise." Not sure why it stopped, but my hope is that with experience, he'll realize that mistakes are going to happen. Shorten that memory and let the chips fall where they may on any given pass. 

And your absolutely right. He's thinking about it, that's what it is. 

 

I agree I think they need to sort that out with him and it will prove beneficial. He said in his presser he might try things. Almost like he needs to play a game before the game haha

Edited December 24, 2019 by london_bills

[Hapless Bills Fan]

3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

He doesn't check down to RBs......ever.

 

Singletary has 41 targets in 12 games.  That's >3 targets per game. 

 

Thus clearly "ever" is not true. 

 

 

[Chandler#81]

6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

He distinctly said "some of the defenses we played".  I think we're all able to interpret the word "some" and count to 10

 

Classic Hapless. Always giving the benefit of doubt!??

[Big Blitz]

We are at the bottom of the league in targets to RBs.  You want a stat to illustrate why his completion percentage isn't around say 63-65?  Here you go:

 

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/reports/targets-distribution/rb.php

 

 

Oh and as a bonus.....guess what other position we're at the bottom of the league in targeting?  The good ol TE safety net.  Don't have one of those right now either.  Knox will get there - I'm looking at him to be Kittle lite next season.  A top 10 TE.  

[Mango]

9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

He distinctly said "some of the defenses we played".  I think we're all able to interpret the word "some" and count to 10

 

Because it isn't just interpret and count. The other 40% of games not listed are the 21, 25, 32, and 32nd ranked defenses in the league....

 

It wasn't just a happy coincidence the way it was presented.

 

 

Edited December 24, 2019 by Mango

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said:

BuT He’S MaKiNg ALl ThE SaMe MiStAkEs !!! 

HE’S NOT LEARNING ANYTHING!!!

 

WHAT IS MCDERMOTT AND DABOLL TEACHING HIM?  OBVIOUSLY NOT HOW TO A GOOD QB

[Big Blitz]

3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Singletary has 41 targets in 12 games.  That's >3 targets per game. 

 

Thus clearly "ever" is not true. 

 

 

 

 

Most teams target them 8-10 plus times a game.  We're targeting them 3 or 4. 

[Dr.Sack]

33 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

He doesn't check down to RBs......ever.  If he did (I'm of the belief he's being coached not to and it's not part of the version of air raid we run anyway---which is a mistake btw) his completion % would be 65%.  

 

He's on par with most QBs in the league.  Accuracy is not an issue.  It's just not.  He misses throws that all QBs miss.  Watch more games.  

Allen is not on par with most QBs, he has the lowest completion percentage among starting QBs. So the question remains, why?

[Big Blitz]

21 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said:

Allen is not on par with most QBs, he has the lowest completion percentage among starting QBs. So the question remains, why?

 

 

I just proposed with evidence it has something to do with being one of the bottom 5 teams at targeting the RB and TEs. 

 

If he diverts more of his throws from Brown (who is always getting the other team's number 1) and from Beasley to the "checkdown" zone, that 58 is easily 62-65 percent.  

 

Now does that mean we are a more efficient offense if we do that?  Why yes......actually I do think this should be happening more but it's not.  And I think it's just a scheme/philosophy thing right now.  

 

So imo hes on par with most QBs in completion %.

 

Darnold btw is at 59.  Baker is at 60.  

Edited December 24, 2019 by Big Blitz

[oldmanfan]

2 hours ago, london_bills said:

Allen's done some great things and is really exciting to watch.

 

There are times when the easy throws are harder for him.  It's when he is 'jittery' as he mentioned in his presser. Where are the objective posters (critizing me for example, which is fine) but then not mentioning that he has said he is nervous in pressers. 

 

Sure he's human and I like the guy but that is a concern! 

 

Someone else summed it up well when they said that, at times, Allen has a tendency to make the easy throws look difficult and the difficult throws look easy. 

 

He needs to fix that, and experience should do so.  Also I wonder if  they should script the first 15 plays.  It worked for Walsh and Montana.

32 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said:

Allen is not on par with most QBs, he has the lowest completion percentage among starting QBs. So the question remains, why?

Part of it is that we are among the leaders in dropped passes.

[Dr.Sack]

26 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

He needs to fix that, and experience should do so.  Also I wonder if  they should script the first 15 plays.  It worked for Walsh and Montana.

Part of it is that we are among the leaders in dropped passes.

30 assuming all were Allen and not Barkley. 

[oldmanfan]

1 minute ago, Dr.Sack said:

30 assuming all were Allen and not Barkley. 

I think they scripted 15 with the Niners?

[GoBills808]

52 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

I just proposed with evidence it has something to do with being one of the bottom 5 teams at targeting the RB and TEs. 

 

If he diverts more of his throws from Brown (who is always getting the other team's number 1) and from Beasley to the "checkdown" zone, that 58 is easily 62-65 percent.  

 

Now does that mean we are a more efficient offense if we do that?  Why yes......actually I do think this should be happening more but it's not.  And I think it's just a scheme/philosophy thing right now.  

 

So imo hes on par with most QBs in completion %.

 

Darnold btw is at 59.  Baker is at 60.  

Amazingly, we also have rookies at the RB and TE spots...and that’s where the meat of comp% is at

 

Sure it’s an excuse but it’s also the truth. The pass offense is not great and Allen deserves his share of blame, but in terms of the issues wrt passing overall he’s not in the top 3 imo.

[Buffalo716]

3 hours ago, Mango said:

The Bills have played 10 games since their bye, not 6. You left 4 out. Makes it read like Allen put up 21 TD’s in 6 weeks. 
 

He didn’t. 

Pretty sure he said these are some of the defenses he has played since the bye and listed there ranking

[jimmy10]

I’ve got another stat for ya:

 

300 yd games - 0

 

Superb Owl rings - 0

 

Prove me wrong. 

[TwistofFate]

5 hours ago, Mango said:

The Bills have played 10 games since their bye, not 6. You left 4 out. Makes it read like Allen put up 21 TD’s in 6 weeks. 
 

He didn’t. 

Also left out all his fumbles and combined his rushing Tds with passing Tds. 

 

Disingenuous to say the least. 

1 hour ago, jimmy10 said:

I’ve got another stat for ya:

 

300 yd games - 0

 

Superb Owl rings - 0

 

Prove me wrong. 

And a 1-5 record when he's under 60% completion vs 9-0 when he's over 60.

 

No one likes to touch that stat though.  

[TwistofFate]

2 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

I just proposed with evidence it has something to do with being one of the bottom 5 teams at targeting the RB and TEs. 

 

If he diverts more of his throws from Brown (who is always getting the other team's number 1) and from Beasley to the "checkdown" zone, that 58 is easily 62-65 percent.  

 

Now does that mean we are a more efficient offense if we do that?  Why yes......actually I do think this should be happening more but it's not.  And I think it's just a scheme/philosophy thing right now.  

 

So imo hes on par with most QBs in completion %.

 

Darnold btw is at 59.  Baker is at 60.  

Darnold is stuck with Gase and missed a month of football. 

 

Baker is stuck with Kitchens who couldn't scheme up anything outside of dinner. 

 

If Darnold were playing here, or even Baker for that matter, both their stats would be way higher. 

 

The fact that both were thrust into two different systems in two years with two ***** coaches and still perform better than Allen should speak volumes. 

 

I can guarantee neither one of them are coached up or prepared as well as Allen week to week year to year.