Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Daboll called 3-4 plays that had guys running free deep. Allen has gotta hit at least one of those. With that kind of crazy wind it might be easier said than done. I think its it’s a no brainer for the Bills next stadium to be a dome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: drinking much today? Aren't you after that steaming pile of ? display? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigantall Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: McDermott challenges that PI and it’s overturned it’s a completely different game Mcdermott always get a low grade if we win or lose Edited December 8, 2019 by Bigantall Mispell the word lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills88 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, DollaBills said: O-line got completely destroyed for most of the game Yupe! Got their A$$ handed to them today. They better tighten up for the Pit game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 When you can’t pick just one offensive lineman that was terrible, the problem is coaching on the offensive line. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: It’s a loss they could give. They were never going to win the division. The Pitt game is a lot more important than this one. YES. Which is why I'm way more worried about that game, vs. today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Rbleyle said: Allen’s not good at his deep ball accuracy so why are we drawing up plays the put the spotlight on his weaknesses? If they're blitzing it sometimes is the best thing you can do. They don't have safeties deep and if you hit, likely a TD. 1 minute ago, dave mcbride said: I like to think of myself as a realist. Baltimore is good. They held SF to 17 last week. This week, SF scored 48 on the road against a good D. They look good with smith back and Peters. Big difference to this team earlier in the year 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: And because we are STILL having major, major issues identifying and picking up blitzers. I though that was supposed the be the biggest thing Morse brought to the table in helping the 2nd year QB. I am yet to see any evidence of it. And this was a home game !!!!! Now we got road game Pittsburgh coming up we better get this ***** fixed QUICK , because Pittsburgh defense is no joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) The result really should not surprise anyone. The last time I checked, our strength of schedule was the weakest or one of the weakest in the NFL. We have not beaten anyone. I initially thought the Dallas win was a strong win only to discover that Dallas also has a weak strength of schedule. It is nice that the Bills fought back, but it should not surprise anyone that the Ravens won. Dare I say that our record is a bit of a mirage. I know we can only play who is on our schedule blah, blah, blah, but we need to look at the record in context. Edited December 8, 2019 by Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Returntoglory said: Aren't you after that steaming pile of ? display? Easy there. We all have been drinking. But we're a family and despite our differences, we should respect each other. Where the (*&$ is my beer!!!??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, SJDK said: When you can’t pick just one offensive lineman that was terrible, the problem is coaching on the offensive line. They were blitzing. It's on the QB. QB makes the line calls and sets protections. Allen was not seeing the blitz at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: He had no answer for the blitz period. That is as much on the QB and the C to identify. Yes the playcaller has to adjust too. But handling the blitz at times comes down to the guys on the field executing. We didn't throw a hot route all day that I saw. Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: They were blitzing. It's on the QB. QB makes the line calls and sets protections. Allen was not seeing the blitz at all. QB and center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksilver Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: The line was manhandled today. Allen missed throws. Receivers dropped catches. Playcalling was not very good. Just not good enough to beat a quality team THIS! end thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, Bigantall said: Mcdermott always get a low grade if we win or loose It's not on mcdermott. If someone says he should of challenged and we would have won the game then I say if JOSH Allen CAN HIT ONE Of THOSE DEEP BALLS our Odds of winning go way up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, GunnerBill said: That is as much on the QB and the C to identify. Yes the playcaller has to adjust too. But handling the blitz at times comes down to the guys on the field executing. We didn't throw a hot route all day that I saw. QB and center. Center has head down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Center has head down. Not before the play he doesn't. One of his key roles before the play, especially with a young QB, is to identify what the D is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Bills 2 minute game planning stinks... Daboll and Allen are responsible... Bills clock management stinks... McDermott, Daboll and Allen are responsible... High school coaches do a better job of managing the clock... It is pathetic... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiva Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) Josh has to play smarter. The guy doesn’t make the best decisions. His cadence is very predictable. Stop taking sacks and putting us out of FG range. Bad Josh showed up today. Edited December 8, 2019 by Kiva 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) Just now, GunnerBill said: Not before the play he doesn't. One of his key roles before the play, especially with a young QB, is to identify what the D is doing. He's not seeing what is going on. There's 10-15 seconds after they line up. Allen is making all the calls. Edited December 8, 2019 by Buffalo_Stampede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: They were blitzing. It's on the QB. QB makes the line calls and sets protections. Allen was not seeing the blitz at all. I disagree he was calling it out. You could see him doing it. Blockers gotta block 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJC25 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: That is as much on the QB and the C to identify. Yes the playcaller has to adjust too. But handling the blitz at times comes down to the guys on the field executing. We didn't throw a hot route all day that I saw. QB and center. If you only protect josh with five and they rush 6 or 7 someone will get open on a rush 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Virgil said: Every play isn’t going to be a home run. Each punt in the first half was because Allen missed a throw or had a drop. The plays were right. In the second half, we ran the ball well and simply got beat on a few plays. Overall, I had less than a few head scratching calls. The only thing I didn’t like were the roll pit passes that didn’t work all game. I suspect the play calling was worse than you acknowledge. Why is Daboll calling long developing pass plays when he (should) know Baltimore is bringing 5-7 defenders quite often? The number of times Josh was sitting in the pocket, holding the ball for greater than 3 seconds was noticeable. This tended to end in a sack or incomplete pass. Not saying the execution was perfect, because it wasn't, but Daboll is not a good play caller. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigantall Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, london_bills said: It's not on mcdermott. If someone says he should of challenged and we would have won the game then I say if JOSH Allen CAN HIT ONE Of THOSE DEEP BALLS our Odds of winning go way up. It's a challenge that could of been overturned, josh allen passes were not eligible for challlenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, SJDK said: I disagree he was calling it out. You could see him doing it. Blockers gotta block Calling out the wrong calls. Allen didn't know where the blitz was coming from multiple times today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: It was truly offensive. What do you think about their execution? (Someone had to!) 2 minutes ago, TJC25 said: If you only protect josh with five and they rush 6 or 7 someone will get open on a rush ....and on a hot route. It’s a chess match. We lost. . Edited December 8, 2019 by Augie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJDK Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 So they disguised blitzes. It’s the nfl and it happens every game. Josh can’t block for himself. 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Calling out the wrong calls. Allen didn't know where the blitz was coming from multiple times today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 27 minutes ago, Virgil said: Daboll wasn’t the problem He most certainly is a big part of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 27 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Eric Wood on the radio just said this was as bad as the offense is capable of playing. I agree. And all things considered, kind of encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 23 minutes ago, Virgil said: Drives didn’t end because guys were covered. Drives ended because of drops or Allen missing open receivers downfield. If Allen is even 50% accurate on deep throws, we have an additional 14 points in this game Simpleton take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Augie said: What do you think about their execution? I'm for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, Bigantall said: It's a challenge that could of been overturned, josh allen passes were not eligible for challlenge Unfortunately josh Allen's deep passes are not eligible for challenging no! If Only. Look, I think mcdermott would of got some info that it wasnt worth challenging. At least I trust that. He could of challenged it but I can't blame him fully for that and do NOT put the blame on him fully there for the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 28 minutes ago, Virgil said: Daboll wasn’t the problem I RARELY agree with this take. In fact, I think today is the first. But I agree 100%. Today was all execution. Guys were open deep, Allen overshot them, guys are open and Allen makes a throw, the receivers drop it. Run plays get called, Ford or Knox whiff a block. Daboll is far from the problem. Today is completely execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJC25 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Calling out the wrong calls. Allen didn't know where the blitz was coming from multiple times today. Josh called people blitzing. The problem was daboll had long developing routes when josh didnt have the time. If they bring 7 we got five blocking we are screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Go Chiefs! (I’d normally try to stay on topic in a thread.....but not this thread.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He's not seeing what is going on. There's 10-15 seconds after they line up. Allen is making all the calls. Morse is there to help (and centers around the league help). And if he isn't doing it then he isn't earning his contract because purely his physical play has been no better than average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, PetermansRedemption said: I RARELY agree with this take. In fact, I think today is the first. But I agree 100%. Today was all execution. Guys were open deep, Allen overshot them, guys are open and Allen makes a throw, the receivers drop it. Run plays get called, Ford or Knox whiff a block. Daboll is far from the problem. Today is completely execution. Spot on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billever76 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 30 minutes ago, TJC25 said: They blitzed all game .daboll called the worst game I've ever seen no quick plays Beasley should of eaten this game and he is running 15 20 yard route Daboll went back to the playcalling that got him on the hot seat to begin with...our blitz pickup is horrendous and daboll had no quick plays to counter it...it sucks bc we should have won this game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, SJDK said: I disagree he was calling it out. You could see him doing it. Blockers gotta block We have no idea what he was calling out though. He could have been setting the wrong protections, changing the routes or making dummy calls. We’ll never know. Simply shouting things at the line doesn’t prove he’s doing the right thing Edited December 8, 2019 by Bangarang 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJC25 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Billever76 said: Daboll went back to the playcalling that got him on the hot seat to begin with...our blitz pickup is horrendous and daboll had no quick plays to counter it...it sucks bc we should have won this game Exactly no slants, no option routes, no reverses, no shallow crossers no help for josh and he got hit all day not going to win like that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, TJC25 said: If you only protect josh with five and they rush 6 or 7 someone will get open on a rush Indeed. But that means there are opportunities for the offense to make plays because there are open receivers. That is why sometimes you want the center and the QB to be able to identify that and find the spot where we have an open guy. If your adjustment is just for the OC to call max protect every play you have lost the battle and the defense has won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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