Jerome007 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Was he really KOed cold? I know the announcers were saying it, but on the replay you see him tucking and holding the ball well on the way down... you have to be conscious to do that! Anyway, hopefully he is taken care fo and comes back ASAP but only when ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Exactly! Crybaby was nothing special today, and he looked bad on the interception to Hyde. Honestly, the Cheaters offense was nothing special today. What a waste of a great performance by our defense. ...and he was inches away from Edmunds taking a pick six to the end zone. Shoulda, woulda, coulda....but Brady was handled effectively today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Watching that clip above do you still think there is any question he was head hunting? You're easily one of the most level headed non-homer posters here. I’ll preface that I think intent is one of the hardest things to judge. Especially sitting on a couch 1000 miles away judging split second occurrences in the heat of battle. That said, the last video went a long way to reconfirming a few of my memories of the situational aspects of the play that I thought were true but wasn’t 100% sure of... 3rd and 8 in the 4th quarter and crossing mid field in a 6 point game on the road. The defender is camped essentially EXACTLY at the sticks above the receivers routes and I’m positive (if not today, all offseason) was told “stand 8 yards deep and so help you god if anyone gets by you” because that first down is likely the difference between a punt and likely at minimum a FG attempt. If he doesn’t hit Allen hard there, it’s a VERY good chance at dragging the other defender to a first and a likely shot at points soon after. If he stops him, it’s a drive ended. Dude is 8 inches shorter and 60 lbs lighter than Josh who is running at him and known to be both powerful and elusive. I think he wound up to hit him as hard as he could at center of mass to stop him in his tracks and when he turned his shoulder a little and Allen started falling low and inside a bit it went from bad to very ugly. I think that he rode the adrenaline of the monster hit and protecting the line and celebrated without having any idea that josh was staying down. I think for me a final judgement would rest on the guys reputation. If he intentionally took Joshs head off, extending the drive that might’ve been done and putting them in FG range with no promise he even rattles Josh.... it’s a really dumb play. For me Occams says he was just a small guy laying his hardest hit on a big guy at a bad angle. If he does that often I’m glad to say he’s a dirty player and it wasn’t just a bad hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhill Mike Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Playoffs? said: You jackass. Would you have the same reaction if that was Brady? We all know Pats fans are cool with the hit. No surprise there. I am surprised that Pats fans are so bored with winning that they have to hang out on other teams' sites to get good football conversation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, Sandhill Mike said: We all know Pats fans are cool with the hit. No surprise there. I am surprised that Pats fans are so bored with winning that they have to hang out on other teams' sites to get good football conversation. Their sites have way more action than here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) On 9/29/2019 at 5:43 PM, Chris66 said: First of all Brady would have slid. Allen is going to have short career if he keeps playing like that Then second of all, hopefully the next time Brady slides, someone hits him the same way that he hit Allen today and ends his career. I can hear the collective gasps in New England Edited October 3, 2019 by Hapless Bills Fan way too vulgar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: Their sites have way more action than here.... Not really. I think the Pats sites are pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, Chris66 said: Not really. I think the Pats sites are pretty bad. okay.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevis Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 I bet Rodney Harrison blames Allen for the concusion. So many tools asscociated with that organization. No one will ever respect them and they know it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Playoffs? said: Then second of all, hopefully the next time Brady slides, someone hits him the same way that pus*y hit Allen today and ends his career. I can hear the collective gasps in New England once you all take your Brady dildos out of your mouths. If Allen would have slid instead of trying to pick up that yard he would have been available for thebend of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, Chris66 said: If Allen would have slid instead of trying to pick up that yard he would have been available for thebend of the game. he’s gotta learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevis Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sandhill Mike said: We all know Pats fans are cool with the hit. No surprise there. I am surprised that Pats fans are so bored with winning that they have to hang out on other teams' sites to get good football conversation. Everyone hates Pats fans, they really only get to converse with each other IRL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhill Mike Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chris66 said: Not really. I think the Pats sites are pretty bad. See? Even Pats fans can't stand Pats fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 hour ago, biLLyBuFFs said: not to sound callous, but the kid did that to himself. He tried running loosely around dudes trying to take that shot.. he HAS to understand smart football situations in the NFL. he'll last about as long as a Kolb mat slip if he keeps doing that ish He tried to gain the 1st down. For all his balls, he would have slid otherwise like he's done many times. It was 3rd down and he was close so he went for it. Then he got held up and vulnerable to a vicious hit... that happened. I don't think he lacks football sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: he’s gotta learn I think thats who he is. Thats his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhill Mike Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chris66 said: If Allen would have slid instead of trying to pick up that yard he would have been available for thebend of the game. He wanted that first down so bad that he made a bad decision there. I appreciate the heart but I don't want to see him pulling that Elway stuff on a regular basis. I do think he will learn from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Chris66 said: I think thats who he is. Thats his game. it won’t be going too long if he insists on deliberately running into situations to get perfectly clocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhill Mike Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chris66 said: I think thats who he is. Thats his game. I think that's what he knows and trusts most at this point in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Pats radio guys said after Allen’s 3rd pick “he’s made some of the DUMBEST throws they’ve EVER witnessed.” When you think of Allen does the word dumb come to mind? I can’t wait till week 16. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Chris66 said: If Allen would have slid instead of trying to pick up that yard he would have been available for thebend of the game. So he deserved a helmet to helmet hit? GTFO NOW Just now, Dr.Sack said: Pats radio guys said after Allen’s 3rd pick “he’s made some of the DUMBEST throws they’ve EVER witnessed.” When you think of Allen does the word dumb come to mind? I can’t wait till week 16. Week 16 is going to be absolutely NASTY. Hyde needs to target. I am so pissed about all this. You can bean a guy in baseball, you can target in hockey and there is absolutely nothing we could do outside of a Gregg Williams style bounty which is insane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Chris66 said: And your franchise qb still sucks No worries you won't be around long enough to find out the end result...you will only be a Pats fan for another 2 years anyway...once Brady retires and the Pats start finishing 8-8 or worse, you and 30,000 of your closest friends will leave Gilette Field looking like most Dolphins games with people masquerading as empty seats...you know, kind of how you did for most of the 80s snd 90s. Most front running pathetic fan base in sports, go kick rocks bro. Edited September 29, 2019 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Another point that seems to be missing in this discussion is regardless of intent, for two years now the NFL has been calling that penalty of helmet to helmet on quarterbacks behind and beyond the line virtually every time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: Another point that seems to be missing in this discussion is regardless of intent, for two years now the NFL has been calling that penalty of helmet to helmet on quarterbacks behind and beyond the line virtually every time. I thought they called it but the flag on the Bills was on the field before the cheap hit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 15 minutes ago, Chris66 said: First of all Brady would have slid. Allen is going to have short career if he keeps playing like that Quite noticeable that you didn't answer the question. That's because that was a scumbag hit. And they doubled down with KVN scumming Barkley without him being anywhere near the football. Can't win clean? Play dirty. It's the Patriot Way. Best part is that the officials throw a BS holding flag to ensure that they don't even get a yardage punishment. Nice league we've got here. Kowtow to an organization run by a John who sanctions repeated cheating and pays his QB through dummy corporations to circumvent the salary cap. 3 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, row_33 said: I thought they called it but the flag on the Bills was on the field before the cheap hit Yeah I was just discussing it as being an obvious penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 I hope Josh is okay. He desperately wanted back in the game. The hit was horseshit...Jones knew exactly what he was doing. A player who leads with his helmet knows he is leading with his helmet. The Bills didn't run a complex defensive scheme today. They stacked the line and were just better than the Pats O. They were quicker, faster and aggressive. They were not on their heels waiting for Brady to bring the game to them. December 22nd. That's all I got to say. It may be flexed to a Sunday night game. The revenge will be walking out of Foxboro with a win hopefully in a game that matters. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, Chris66 said: If Allen would have slid instead of trying to pick up that yard he would have been available for thebend of the game. Such a weak statement, that was absolutely a cheap shot and if it would been done to Brady our guy would have been ejected... what's your thoughts on the two blatant missed facemask calls or how about the 4th and 8 PI that looked an awful like how gilmore plays defense routinely and not called or how about the pick play where your guy looked like he was gonna blast our corner on the pick, comment on any of these please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Allen refuses to protect himself on runs, he is going to get destroyed, you can tell me that’s how he wants to keep it real out there... 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: Yeah I was just discussing it as being an obvious penalty. And it was called as an obvious penalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 34 minutes ago, Chris66 said: He was also fighting for extra yards. He is essentially a rb at that point. So it's OK to take cheap shots to rbs in the head? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 16 minutes ago, Chris66 said: Not really. I think the Pats sites are pretty bad. Obviously. Pats “fans” are pretty bad. In fact, pretty bad is an understatement. They are the most uneducated, fair weather, obnoxious, spineless group of sports fans on the planet. Thank you for personifying it on here! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, row_33 said: Allen refuses to protect himself on runs, he is going to get destroyed, you can tell me that’s how he wants to keep it real out there... And it was called as an obvious penalty I know but we were discussing whether it was intentional or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan in Beantown Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 hours ago, stosh64 said: STFU The whining thread is here. Post your cry baby thoughts here It’s a fine point but times have changed man. Can’t just head hunt purposefully anymore. Actual rule changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 20 minutes ago, Chris66 said: Not really. I think the Pats sites are pretty bad. Doesn't surprise me, sites are only as good as the fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Jerboski said: Such a weak statement, that was absolutely a cheap shot and if it would been done to Brady our guy would have been ejected... what's your thoughts on the two blatant missed facemask calls or how about the 4th and 8 PI that looked an awful like how gilmore plays defense routinely and not called or how about the pick play where your guy looked like he was gonna blast our corner on the pick, comment on any of these please Like I said brady wouldnt have put himself in that position. It wasnt a facemask it was a brush. You see that in every game On the no call pi he never touched him your allowed to make the defender move. No such thing as a penalty for intent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, Chris66 said: Like I said brady wouldnt have put himself in that position. It wasnt a facemask it was a brush. You see that in every game On the no call pi he never touched him your allowed to make the defender move. No such thing as a penalty for intent The PI on white on 4th and 8, hand wrapped on the receiver yet we saw that time and time again from gilmore, but no flag. You gonna tell me Allen's facemask wasnt grabbed and John browns wasnt, go rewatch it, it was obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 39 minutes ago, BringBackFlutie said: He doesn't need help with that particular. He gets territorial... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Just now, Chris66 said: Like I said brady wouldnt have put himself in that position. It wasnt a facemask it was a brush. You see that in every game On the no call pi he never touched him your allowed to make the defender move. No such thing as a penalty for intent What would you call this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 We all know Pat's and tom brady get calls that no other team besides maybe the cowboys gets, every fanbase in America knows it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 A bad call but I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCGBILLSFAN Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Can one of the mods ban the pats fans, they are just trying to pull us all down, neither one is giving any kind of intellectiual argument. They need to stay on their fan sites and away from ours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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