Boo-Bird Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I have a wedding to attend tomorrow out of town, starting at 2 PM (yes, on a Sunday ) Lol. Is there a way to stream games on an Android phone? I was able to watch the Bears/Packers Thurs on my phone through the Yahoo Sports app. There's a countdown timer till the Bills game. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 CBS ALL ACCESS. It is 4.99/ month and carries the local games. They have a phone app. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Where is the wedding? If our game is local game in your market then NFL app will stream it. Yahoo sports I believe does as well. You can sign up for a free trial of YouTube TV and also use the app to watch the game. Edited September 7, 2019 by Bangarang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) The NFL app will have the game in your local area: https://506sports.com/ There is also the Sunday Ticket app, that has a one week free trial: https://nflst.directv.com/packages Edited September 7, 2019 by uticaclub 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Viewing steams of NFL games on reddit is 100% legal. It is only illegal to share or copy (download) copyrighted material. It is in fact NOT illegal to simply view it on your phone or computer. If that were the case it would be illegal to watch YouTube videos that contain copyrighted material or Facebook Live videos that show live games. You cannot break the law by watching a YouTube video or a Facebook Live. So many people have a misunderstanding of this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Just now, StHustle said: Viewing steams of NFL games on reddit is 100% legal. It is only illegal to share or copy (download) copyrighted material. It is in fact NOT illegal to simply view it on your phone or computer. If that were the case it would be illegal to watch YouTube videos that contain copyrighted material or Facebook Live videos that show live games. You cannot break the law by watching a YouTube video or a Facebook Live. So many people have a misunderstanding of this. This is incorrect. streaming involves downloading a feed to your cache and is still considered copying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: This is incorrect. streaming involves downloading a feed to your cache and is still considered copying. Wrong! I have looked into this extensively. Only the person streaming, or people who are in possession of the copyrighted material (downloaded files) have broken a the copyright law. Check this out and read the highlighted section Business Insider Edited September 7, 2019 by StHustle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, StHustle said: Wrong! I have looked into this extensively. Only the person streaming, or people who are in possession of the copyrighted material (downloaded files) have broken a the copyright law. I was going to argue with you, but have decided it's not worth my time. Edited September 7, 2019 by ndirish1978 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 why does it always have to be legal, man. although I was told, watching a linked stream is not illegal, yet the source of the stream are the ones streaming the feed illegally. I don't mind sticking to those cable companies that have been raping the consumer all these years and still doing so. I mean, I do still have to pay for my internet, that's rape enough from the greedy bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 At the end of the day the real question is whether you will get in trouble for it. At present you will not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo-Bird Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 Awesome! I appreciate the responses, everybody! The wedding is in Saratoga Springs. Most of my family over there are Giants fans. Glad I won't have to miss the opener! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: At the end of the day the real question is whether you will get in trouble for it. At present you will not. You are brainwashed by the powers that be. Based on what you are saying, I can go on YouTube and watch Gladiator at this link and Im breaking the law? Here is some case law: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mggpdy/click-here-for-child-porn-new-york-residents-only (It's disgusting and about child porn but same idea) https://www.computer-realm.net/illegal-movies-online/ - here is another explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo-Bird Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: why does it always have to be legal, man. although I was told, watching a linked stream is not illegal, yet the source of the stream are the ones streaming the feed illegally. I don't mind sticking to those cable companies that have been raping the consumer all these years and still doing so. I mean, I do still have to pay for my internet, that's rape enough from the greedy bastards. I think on the old Bills message board it was "illegal" to ask how to stream games. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Boo-Bird said: I think on the old Bills message board it was "illegal" to ask how to stream games. Lol. it's against the rules here to post a link, so far not against the rules to discuss. it's a bit more lenient here and a much better managed board/site. at least the forum is split up to give every member a choice of discussion all the way down to the ppp dungeon. bbmb was poorly managed and full of trolls toward the end, it's right where it belongs, in the past! Edited September 7, 2019 by DaBillsFanSince1973 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, StHustle said: You are brainwashed by the powers that be. Based on what you are saying, I can go on YouTube and watch Gladiator at this link and Im breaking the law? Here is some case law: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mggpdy/click-here-for-child-porn-new-york-residents-only (It's disgusting and about child porn but same idea) https://www.computer-realm.net/illegal-movies-online/ - here is another explanation. Or perhaps you're arguing semantics of law with someone who actually went to law school. Just a thought... Though from your brainwashing comment I am probably more apt to get through to you with an example. This would be like if I argued the merits of living at home with ones parents despite getting a degree in the liberal arts because it's more important to "chase your bliss." Edited September 7, 2019 by ndirish1978 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Someone posted in another thread that Reddit has cracked down on streaming of college games and is assuming may find the same tomorrow for the NFL games. So may be a moot point arguing about legal or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Or perhaps you're arguing semantics of law with someone who actually went to law school. Just a thought... Though from your brainwashing comment I am probably more apt to get through to you with an example. This would be like if I argued the merits of living at home with ones parents despite getting a degree in the liberal arts because it's more important to "chase your bliss." Pulling the "i know more about this" card without actually arguing is super not helpful. Plenty of dumb people go to law school. Plenty of people go to law school and don't become lawyers. Plenty of people go to law school and are bad lawyers. Going to law school is not difficult to do. Why don't you actually explain why its illegal so we can learn (I dont know anything about this but its interesting). Edited September 7, 2019 by Crayola64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 51 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: I was going to argue with you, but have decided it's not worth my time. Don't be this guy: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: Pulling the "i know more about this" card without actually arguing is super not helpful. Plenty of dumb people go to law school. Plenty of people go to law school and don't become lawyers. Plenty of people go to law school and are bad lawyers. Going to law school is not difficult to do. Why don't you actually explain why its illegal so we can learn (I dont know anything about this but its interesting). Well of course, since you asked so nicely ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Well of course, since you asked so nicely ? Or just keep popping into the topic and not adding anything of value. It isn't like someone can't google this for 5 minutes and figure it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Who the hell schedules a Sunday afternoon wedding on the opening of football? Send The happy couple a card and be done with it! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, ndirish1978 said: At the end of the day the real question is whether you will get in trouble for it. At present you will not. Some people just don't wanna feel like they are stealing regardless if they would get in trouble for it or not. My thing is this...I have spent THOUSANDS of dollars with the NFL over the years. This year I bought 4 tix to two games and about to re-up on some Bills gear. If I watch free online or go to a sports bar and watch for free...it changes NOTHING for them. I don't feel bad regardless of the legalities. I also don't feel bad when I break the speed limit while driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Ive watched several games on my phone via reddit streams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Dude -if the Patriots get away with signing brown and don’t get in trouble for tampering-stream away! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rew Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) The subject of streaming copyright protected media is an interesting one. There have not been sufficient modern cases on this topic. What does exist is contradictory and varies greatly based on country. The argument for legal is predicated on media case law that existed before the internet. A movie theater showing copyright material is the guilty party, not the people viewing it. However, in streaming media you are technically downloading data and rebroadcasting the media yourself. This both implies you are "broadcasting" and that you are, however temporarily, in possession of the copyright material. In the EU there is currently the closest thing to a ruling on this subject, and it does lean more in favor of the streamer than the content owner. Regardless, the one thing that provides a margin of safety is that it is significantly less effort and far more effective to attack the source of the stream than the consumer. This has contributed to the lack of clarity from courts on the subject. This should be clarified in domestic and international courts in the next few years as more cases make their way through. The one thing that is blatently clear is that a full, consumer aware, download of copyright material is illegal. Whether you view it or not you are in possession. Meaning if you have the option to stream, do it, you are in gray area as opposed to confirmed illegal. FWIW: I pay the NFL and stream all my bills games from London or another random European location. I'm sure they wonder about my "travel schedule", but they are happy to have a paying consumer. Edited September 7, 2019 by Rew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 If your phone is on Verizon... https://www.verizonwireless.com/articles/gridiron-goodness--nfl-on-your-smartphone/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Pretty sure if there is content you are watching that should be paid for is illegal. It's called stealing. Edited September 7, 2019 by kota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 6 hours ago, StHustle said: Viewing steams of NFL games on reddit is 100% legal. It is only illegal to share or copy (download) copyrighted material. It is in fact NOT illegal to simply view it on your phone or computer. If that were the case it would be illegal to watch YouTube videos that contain copyrighted material or Facebook Live videos that show live games. You cannot break the law by watching a YouTube video or a Facebook Live. So many people have a misunderstanding of this. Why was nba reddit shut down then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Just now, Teddy KGB said: Why was nba reddit shut down then ? Because offering a stream is illegal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Just now, StHustle said: Because offering a stream is illegal Im confused. Why are nfl streams okay but nba ones aren’t ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Im confused. Why are nfl streams okay but nba ones aren’t ? Slow down. You'll get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Just now, BullBuchanan said: Slow down. You'll get it. Thanks for sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Teddy KGB said: Im confused. Why are nfl streams okay but nba ones aren’t ? It I illegal to provide a stream of copyrighted material. It is also illegal to posses (as in have a downloaded file) unconsented copyrighted material. It is not illegal to view someone else streaming. Nor is it illegal to watch recorded copyrighted material. You know how many YouTube videos have illegal copyrighted material? You are not breaking the law by watching them on YouTube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Boo-Bird said: I have a wedding to attend tomorrow out of town, starting at 2 PM (yes, on a Sunday ) Lol. Is there a way to stream games on an Android phone? I was able to watch the Bears/Packers Thurs on my phone through the Yahoo Sports app. There's a countdown timer till the Bills game. Thanks! "Legal" is such a loose term. Are we talking Pats legal or Joe Schmoe legal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Just now, StHustle said: It I illegal to provide a stream of copyrighted material. It is also illegal to posses (as in have a downloaded file) unconsented copyrighted material. It is not illegal to view someone else streaming. Nor is it illegal to watch recorded copyrighted material. You know how many YouTube videos have illegal copyrighted material? You are not breaking the law by watching them on YouTube? He's baiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Im confused. Why are nfl streams okay but nba ones aren’t ? I know how to watch them ALL for free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: He's baiting. Wrong. I enjoyed watching nba on there and they say the page has been removed. If this is true then the nfl one will be gone soon as well no ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Boo-Bird said: I have a wedding to attend tomorrow out of town, starting at 2 PM (yes, on a Sunday ) Lol. Is there a way to stream games on an Android phone? I was able to watch the Bears/Packers Thurs on my phone through the Yahoo Sports app. There's a countdown timer till the Bills game. Thanks! Is it your wedding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Just now, thebug said: Is it your wedding? You think he would marry someone that scheduled a sunday during football season? Is there a bigger red flag? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Just now, BullBuchanan said: You think he would marry someone that scheduled a sunday during football season? Is there a bigger red flag? That’s exactly why I am asking!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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