Thurman Kelly Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Gugny said: I've never seen you discuss other assistant coaches' genitalia. Why is this coach different? I think she's different because she has different genitalia (at least I'm assuming that is the case). Isn't that why the Bills are crowing about her hiring? Because that makes them so progressive and "woke" to have hired someone who has female genitalia? Let's see how much this so-called diversity that doesn't really look like diversity is really worth. That will be measured in wins and losses, unless you think football is about something else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, Thurman Kelly said: Oh, it's a kind of diversity all right, but what is the point being made? That women can coach in the NFL as long as they look like a man? If you have to have male characteristics to coach, is that really diversity? I mean...I don't think diversity was the goal here anyway. The Bills want to show they are willing to hire the BEST candidate for the job and if that happens to be a woman then so be it. It's a very uncommon move so attention is being brought to it in an effort to maybe open up the minds of other GMs. I see nothing wrong with any of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I believe she was an inmate on Orange is the New Black. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 She better have equal pay to McDermott. Or else the Bills are sexist capitalist pigs What is the correct pronoun to use she or Xe don't want to assume anyone's gender 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman Kelly Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, StHustle said: I mean...I don't think diversity was the goal here anyway. The Bills want to show they are willing to hire the BEST candidate for the job and if that happens to be a woman then so be it. It's a very uncommon move so attention is being brought to it in an effort to maybe open up the minds of other GMs. I see nothing wrong with any of it. Read the article over at buffalobills.com. If diversity wasn't the goal, it sure gets a lot of mention in the article. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Interesting... And not that they hired a woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 She's a coaching intern. She will have zero effect on wins and losses. I couldn't care less about diversity hiring but good for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 39 minutes ago, Thurman Kelly said: The Bills are taking a lot of credit for this on buffalobills.com. - talking about how "successful" this hiring is. This, from the only NFL team never to win 10 games in the last 20 seasons! I don't think they should be talking about any of their hiring being "successful" until they start winning. I love the Bills, but they have been pointedly unsuccessful since the 90's. Show me that the team does better by "diversity based" hiring. If that can't be shown, it's just a marketing ploy, and marketing ploys aren't that interesting to people who watch football for the football. p.s. It's kind of beside the point, but when I saw her on the sidelines I had no idea she was a woman, so I'm not sure what diversity point is being made here. You are assuming that its a diversity based hiring without considering the possibility that she was flat out better than the other candidates for the position. Why? The story linked to by the OP shows that she has plenty of coaching experience, has done well at every position she held and impressed the Bills' coaching staff while working as a coaching intern during training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman Kelly Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mickey said: You are assuming that its a diversity based hiring without considering the possibility that she was flat out better than the other candidates for the position. Why? The story linked to by the OP shows that she has plenty of coaching experience, has done well at every position she held and impressed the Bills' coaching staff while working as a coaching intern during training camp. Read this article - written by Chris Brown (Bills staff): https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-coaching-intern-callie-brownson-hoping-to-reinforce-female-hiring-trend The very first sentence tells you this was about diversity. Edited August 26, 2019 by Thurman Kelly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, Thurman Kelly said: Read the article over at buffalobills.com. If diversity wasn't the goal, it sure gets a lot of mention in the article. The same article goes into depth regarding her experiences as a player and coach, detailing her success at every level so far including D-1 college football. There are ten paragraphs in the story and only one mentions diversity. All the rest are about her relevant experience, references, etc. I don't imagine that the hiring of an intern would gather much attention at all but the fact that she is a woman and that it is pretty rare to have female coaches in the NFL makes that the most marketable angle of the story so the PR department would be idiots if they didn't mention it, even feature it. I am surprised it was only mentioned in the opener. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman Kelly Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, RunTheBall said: She's a coaching intern. She will have zero effect on wins and losses. I couldn't care less about diversity hiring but good for her. If coaching interns don't contribute to the success (or lack thereof) of the team, then why do the Bills even employ them? And why take so much credit for doing so? Isn't football about winning and losing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Thurman Kelly said: Read this article - written by Chris Brown (Bills staff): https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-coaching-intern-callie-brownson-hoping-to-reinforce-female-hiring-trend The very first sentence tells you this was about diversity. Did you not read any of the sentences after that? How about the 9 paragraphs after that detailing her experience, prior success, references, etc.? ADHD - get treatment, there is hope! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Thurman Kelly said: Read this article - written by Chris Brown (Bills staff): https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-coaching-intern-callie-brownson-hoping-to-reinforce-female-hiring-trend The very first sentence tells you this was about diversity. or maybe their just trying to get the best press for something they would do anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman Kelly Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mickey said: The same article goes into depth regarding her experiences as a player and coach, detailing her success at every level so far including D-1 college football. There are ten paragraphs in the story and only one mentions diversity. All the rest are about her relevant experience, references, etc. I don't imagine that the hiring of an intern would gather much attention at all but the fact that she is a woman and that it is pretty rare to have female coaches in the NFL makes that the most marketable angle of the story so the PR department would be idiots if they didn't mention it, even feature it. I am surprised it was only mentioned in the opener. When the headline and first sentence of an article talk about diversity, the article is promoting diversity. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Gugny throwing Affect grenades https://web4health.info/en/answers/psy-affect-what.htm Fire in the hole!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: or maybe their just trying to get the best press for something they would do anyway. Exactly. Besides, its a boring nothing kind of story, the only noteworthy factoid in it is that the new hire is female and that is still a rarity in the NFL. So of course its in the lead paragraph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman Kelly Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: or maybe their just trying to get the best press for something they would do anyway. I think you're right. This is all about getting press and marketing. However, I view this kind of thing to be an attempt to distract fans from the lackluster performance of management. It's similar to when municipal politicians want to talk about human rights issues when they can't manage to get the garbage picked up or keep the roads paved. Edited August 26, 2019 by Thurman Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Thurman Kelly said: I think you're right. This is all about getting press and marketing. However, I view this kind of thing to be an attempt to distract fans from the lackluster performance of management. you mean the management that had one of the best drafts in Bills history and is 3-0 so far in the preseason? From what are they distracting us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Thurman Kelly said: When the headline and first sentence of an article talk about diversity, the article is promoting diversity. The only noteworthy issue here is that she is a woman so of course its in the lead. Besides, does promoting diversity preclude her being the most qualified? Would you have celebrated this as an excellent non-diversity hire (whatever that is) if the article only covered all those qualifications you keep ignoring? My bet is you still would have responded with some version of "...they only hired her because she is a woman..." Edited August 26, 2019 by Mickey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman Kelly Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: you mean the management that had one of the best drafts in Bills history and is 3-0 so far in the preseason? From what are they distracting us? I want the Bills to succeed, but surely you don't think the Bills pre-season record has anything to do with that? The 0-16 Lions were 4-0 in pre-season! I think management is trying to distract us from the prospect of another 7-9, 8-8, 9-7 no-playoff season of mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Wait... That's a chick? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Gugny said: https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-coaching-intern-callie-brownson-hoping-to-reinforce-female-hiring-trend this seems so much more woke without the added chauvinistic sexual innuendo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman Kelly Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mickey said: The only noteworthy issue here is that she is a woman so of course its in the lead. Besides, does promoting diversity preclude her being the most qualified? Would you have celebrated this as an excellent non-diversity hire (whatever that is) if the article only covered all those qualifications you keep ignoring? My bet is you still would have responded with some version of "...they only hired her because she is a woman..." Look, I'm concluding that they hired her to advance diversity because that's exactly what they are telling us by how they framed the story. As to her qualifications and abilities, I'll let the results of her work tell me whether she was a good football hire, or just a good marketing hire. Edited August 26, 2019 by Thurman Kelly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Thurman Kelly said: I want the Bills to succeed, but surely you don't think the Bills pre-season record has anything to do with that? The 0-16 Lions were 4-0 in pre-season! I think management is trying to distract us from the prospect of another 7-9, 8-8, 9-7 no-playoff season of mediocrity. OK. talk to me at the bye, when we are 4-1. It ain't 2015. 3 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: Wait... That's a chick? please don't give Gug the satisfaction of that response ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 whats with this woke shite I keep seeing? Speak English 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: whats with this woke shite I keep seeing? Speak English as in "Im awake to the fact this is simply a non-issue in the year 2019" and "shite" aint English lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: as in "Im awake to the fact this is simply a non-issue in the year 2019" and "shite" aint English lol It is in England, Scotland and Ireland. My wifes parent (rest in peace) said it often. My LIL would always tell me to cut the shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Does she play soccer too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 So tired of the PC BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, HT02 said: So tired of the PC BS How do you know her hire is political? Maybe she’s qualified? Please, if have the inside info, let us know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, JoPar_v2 said: How do you know her hire is political? Maybe she’s qualified? Please, if have the inside info, let us know. Yeah I'm sure that's she was hired....most qualified no doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Is the photograph in the original post a woman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: Is the photograph in the original post a woman? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: How do you know her hire is political? Maybe she’s qualified? Please, if have the inside info, let us know. Who did she vote for ? Lets get her ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 How long before they expect to drive cars as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 37 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: How do you know her hire is political? Maybe she’s qualified? Please, if have the inside info, let us know. Oh for crissakes.. of course it's political .. stop with all the tip -toeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, dwight in philly said: Oh for crissakes.. of course it's political .. stop with all the tip -toeing. So hiring females to coach in men’s football will always be political and thus, never legitimate, regardless of qualifications. Got it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from_dunkirk Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Thurman Kelly said: p.s. It's kind of beside the point, but when I saw her on the sidelines I had no idea she was a woman, so I'm not sure what diversity point is being made here. The diversity point is that the Bills hired a woman. Period. 4 hours ago, Thurman Kelly said: The Bills are taking a lot of credit for this on buffalobills.com. - talking about how "successful" this hiring is. This, from the only NFL team never to win 10 games in the last 20 seasons! The Bills won 11 games in 1999. Edited August 26, 2019 by from_dunkirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said: So hiring females to coach in men’s football will always be political and thus, never legitimate, regardless of qualifications. Got it. ok snowflake :"you win" not going to get into a political debate about a friggin female NFL coaching intern! Optics .. nah. nothing to do with it Edited August 26, 2019 by dwight in philly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from_dunkirk Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 4 hours ago, gobilz said: Yikes Dumb post. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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