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I haven’t even seen it yet, but in preseason....never too high, never too low. 

 

But it’s OK to enjoy the fun stuff! 

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I can't believe anyone is still stupid enough to make judgments off this crap. They can only play who is put in front of them, and they have succeeded at that, which is great. I'm not holding that against them, they performed, and maybe they'd perform well against better talent.

 

But it has just been two piles of ***** put in front of them.

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2 hours ago, nucci said:

Preseason with no game planning...yes, they are more talented and look organized but let's wait for the real games

You can see a clear talent gap.  That carries over.  We have top notch coaching. 

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1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said:

I can't believe anyone is still stupid enough to make judgments off this crap. They can only play who is put in front of them, and they have succeeded at that, which is great. I'm not holding that against them, they performed, and maybe they'd perform well against better talent.

 

But it has just been two piles of ***** put in front of them.

 

Lol, a little over animated a bit here?  I mean everyone gets its preseason, not sure why people always have to come in and flip out when people are enjoying seeing some positive signs out of the team.  No one is fooling themselves as if this is a perfect test of their potential, but calm down as its ok to also be optimistic based off of encouraging signs.  

 

I mean its a helluva a lot better than looking bad out there lol

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18 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Maybe a game they looked good, but consistently through multiple games not that I remember. I remember Trent Edwards and the D carving up the Steelers in a week 3 preseason game that was supposed to be a dress rehearsal.

 

 

Now that is a memory, thought Edwards was the real deal after that game.

 

But right now with them now looking solid in back to back weeks I feel like Ricky Bobby in Talladega nights not knowing what to do with my hands in an interview

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2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Lol, a little over animated a bit here?  I mean everyone gets its preseason, not sure why people always have to come in and flip out when people are enjoying seeing some positive signs out of the team.  No one is fooling themselves as if this is a perfect test of their potential, but calm down as its ok to also be optimistic based off of encouraging signs.  

 

I mean its a helluva a lot better than looking bad out there lol

 

I wouldn't really say I wqs animated, but any semblance of realism has been met hy crap like this in this thread so it's par for the course.

 

Preseason doesn't mean anything to me, sorry.

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1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said:

I can't believe anyone is still stupid enough to make judgments off this crap. They can only play who is put in front of them, and they have succeeded at that, which is great. I'm not holding that against them, they performed, and maybe they'd perform well against better talent.

 

But it has just been two piles of ***** put in front of them.

 

So, if a QB is missing wide-open receivers by a good deal, regardless of "scheme" that wouldn't worry you?  If a defense, regardless of "scheme", was getting gashed for 10+ yard runs routinely, that wouldn't worry you?  If the team just appeared slow, out of sync, and out of position, that would't bother you?

 

We all know that pre-season "doesn't mean anything"...but there ARE elements of pre-season that mean quite a bit...so much so that players get cut base on pre-season play.  Yes, a team's pre-season win-loss record doesn't seem to have a correlation to win-loss record in the regular season, but this Bills team does seem to be deeper and more talented than recent years.  Maybe just enjoy it? 

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8 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

I can't believe anyone is still stupid enough to make judgments off this crap. They can only play who is put in front of them, and they have succeeded at that, which is great. I'm not holding that against them, they performed, and maybe they'd perform well against better talent.

 

But it has just been two piles of ***** put in front of them.

 

Damn...calm down.

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1 hour ago, zevo said:

For ***** sakes people...enjoy a real nfl qb for once...my god...it’s ok to be optimistic 

 

Many cannot accept that fact.  They are too broken from the past and can't look forward.

Allen plays good in a preseason game.................don't mean nothing.

Allen plays bad in a preseason game................see i told you he sucks.

 

Let them have their fun.

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I'm a believer that very little in preseason means anything, and for various different reasons.

 

BUT... there are certain things in preseason that can be extrapolated to the regular season. One of them is Josh Allen throwing accurate short pass darts. That is going to be the same in the regular season because he has a cannon for an arm, and Cole Beasley has already shown that he can get open and make catches in real NFL games. If Matt Barkley makes a short completion or a longer one it doesnt at all mean he can do it in the regular season because he has a weak arm, and the throws he makes may indeed be different when the game is full speed. Yes, he had a good game against the Jets, but his arm is still a huge liability and it's the same one in his failed attempts in Philly and Chicago.

 

Christian Wade may not break those tackles against starters but the catch, balance, acceleration and speed works against first stringers, too.

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I know you can't weight a preseason performance too much, but I remember watching too many Bills preseason games where the Bills' performance looked a lot like what Arizona was doing in the first half last night, and the starters looked like the Bills' third stringers tonight.

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12 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Lol, a little over animated a bit here?  I mean everyone gets its preseason, not sure why people always have to come in and flip out when people are enjoying seeing some positive signs out of the team.  No one is fooling themselves as if this is a perfect test of their potential, but calm down as its ok to also be optimistic based off of encouraging signs.  

 

I mean its a helluva a lot better than looking bad out there lol

As opposed to last preseason when we were wondering which QB we'd blindfold and put in front of a firing squad, I'd say it's an improvement.

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5 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Many cannot accept that fact.  They are too broken from the past and can't look forward.

Allen plays good in a preseason game.................don't mean nothing.

Allen plays bad in a preseason game................see i told you he sucks.

 

Let them have their fun.

Well here's the thing. Allen CLEARLY is being coached to not do what he did last year, which is eschew the short throws for the downfield heaves.

 

He's looking for the underneath stuff, the easy stuff, the pitch and catch. With his arm strength (and Beasley alluded to this) the ball will get there before the defense can react. The value in an arm that can get the ball 80 yards downfield isn't usually getting the ball 80 yards down the field - it's getting that 8 yard curl there .003 faster than it should. In the NFL, sometimes, that's all the difference you need.

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1 hour ago, whatdrought said:

Just chill.

Exactly.....how many times have we gone off the rails over a couple of preseason games just to be crushed in the regular season?  Granted, the roster appears to be better and deeper, but let's wait until the games are real.

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1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

I wouldn't really say I wqs animated, but any semblance of realism has been met hy crap like this in this thread so it's par for the course.

 

Preseason doesn't mean anything to me, sorry.

 

I get that, but just seemed like you were a bit worked up over it.  I mean everyone should realize not to put too much stock in preseason, heck the 0-16 Lions were 4-0 in that years preseason.  But it is nice to see the things we have been looking for in Josh, Cole, the run game, the D, etc.  So I think its cool to enjoy the positive signs, albeit should always be done with some cautious optimism until they are truly tested in regular season.  

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1 hour ago, I am the egg man said:

No Luck, no Newton. Calm down.

 

Didnt know Luck and Newton were the defensive stars missing that could have disrupted Allen.  

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1 hour ago, offyourocker said:

Did the Browns not go 4-0 in preseason once to end up 0-16 in regular season?  Or am I grossly miss remembering something?

 

No, it was the Lions.  

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I am very hopeful and excited for this upcoming season.  Can't wait for it to start.  However, I am not taking any stock in preseason.  I usually never do.  Peterman was Joe Montana in preseason.

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45 minutes ago, Mc1320 said:

Make some easy money - take the over on 6.5 wins.

Its up to 7.5, biggest movers in Vegas

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2 hours ago, BillsQuebec said:

I'm thinking about betting them to make the playoffs at +375 or to win the division at +1025.

 

I've already wagered close to $7,000 to win $5,300 on them to win more than 6.5 games this year; I feel great about the bet despite Morse's injury.

Nice. I'm on the over win total as well. But I got it at 7. Still liking it.

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I really can’t get too excited to see the defensive starters look a little shaky against Carolinas Allen. No cam or McCaffrey or Olsen and that kid moved the ball pretty good. 

Got to say I do love the Allen to Beasley connection though. Beasley is completely uncoverable at all times. He had every right to be upset about his usage in Dallas. As others have said he will be a huge key to Allen’s magical 60% completion (that so many benchmark if he’s a good QB or not) 

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2 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

I really can’t get too excited to see the defensive starters look a little shaky against Carolinas Allen. No cam or McCaffrey or Olsen and that kid moved the ball pretty good. 

 

They scored no points.

The first series was three and out.

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5 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

They scored no points.

The first series was three and out.

They were also going for it on 4th downs 

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