Hedge Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 18 hours ago, Koko78 said: That's not unusual. Cameras in correctional facilities do not generally face into the individual cells. Inmates are still entitled to some minimal privacy, especially if he was taken off suicide watch so he can get suicided. Would it be correct to assume that there are normally cameras within the hallways/non-cell locations? So, if there were any shenanigans that involved a second party within the proximity of Epstein's cell, that would be seen (also assuming there were no "malfunctions")? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Just now, Hedge said: Would it be correct to assume that there are normally cameras within the hallways/non-cell locations? So, if there were any shenanigans that involved a second party within the proximity of Epstein's cell, that would be seen (also assuming there were no "malfunctions")? I've had same thought/question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 18 hours ago, Koko78 said: That's not unusual. Cameras in correctional facilities do not generally face into the individual cells. Inmates are still entitled to some minimal privacy, especially if he was taken off suicide watch so he can get suicided. I went through the local "Citizen's Police Academy" for fourteen weeks last winter. It included a trip to the County's Correctional Facility. It's a prison that is a cluster of mini-prisons - each with a specific type of population. One of the five pods was for solitary confinement. Each pod has a central command station (and there's one in the main office which oversees all the pods in the cluster and the hallways between pods. The pod's command station monitors all the cameras in the pod. They did not have cameras in the individual cells. However, there were two inmates on suicide watch. A corrections officer was stationed at a chair facing into the cell. Their job is to watch the inmate and every 15 minutes write a report in their log. That is a brutal job, one I would not want in a million years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, Hedge said: Would it be correct to assume that there are normally cameras within the hallways/non-cell locations? So, if there were any shenanigans that involved a second party within the proximity of Epstein's cell, that would be seen (also assuming there were no "malfunctions")? One would presume. I have no idea if MCC has a full camera system or not, I do not have anything to do with federal inmates. By way of comparison, the NYS Dept. of Corrections did not have working camera systems in all of their facilities until about 3 years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 hours ago, DC Tom said: This is a new topic; the original was deleted by its creator, who claimed that he deleted it because he was very upset that a completely different topic was discussed 50 pages in (but who really deleted it because he's a ***** idjitard.) Well, that sucks. It sucks a lot. I am pretty sure I should have won. Dude, is there any way to petition SDS to review the archives and tell us who the winner was? This is for bragging rights; so, he'll surely know how important it is and comply... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Nanker said: A corrections officer was stationed at a chair facing into the cell. Their job is to watch the inmate and every 15 minutes write a report in their log. That is a brutal job, one I would not want in a million years. Yeah, that is the standard procedure for a 1-on-1 suicide watch, as far as I am aware of. The only worse job that I can imagine is "special watch", where the COs have to watch the inmate constantly to make sure they crap in a bed pan, so that the CO can search the inmate's poo for contraband. Easy work, but incredibly boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Nanker said: I went through the local "Citizen's Police Academy" for fourteen weeks last winter. It included a trip to the County's Correctional Facility. It's a prison that is a cluster of mini-prisons - each with a specific type of population. One of the five pods was for solitary confinement. Each pod has a central command station (and there's one in the main office which oversees all the pods in the cluster and the hallways between pods. The pod's command station monitors all the cameras in the pod. They did not have cameras in the individual cells. However, there were two inmates on suicide watch. A corrections officer was stationed at a chair facing into the cell. Their job is to watch the inmate and every 15 minutes write a report in their log. That is a brutal job, one I would not want in a million years. So, basically a better paid Walmart greeter, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Quote https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../epst-a12.html Who wanted Jeffrey Epstein dead? By Patrick Martin 12 August 2019 R 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: 100% This has existed in elite circles for decades (if not centuries). It's spread to multiple agencies, institutions, countries, and industries -- so much so they've boasted about it in plain sight for years. Rubbing our faces in it with symbolism: Example: A lamp post that isn't a LAMP post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 3 hours ago, DC Tom said: This is a new topic; the original was deleted by its creator, who claimed that he deleted it because he was very upset that a completely different topic was discussed 50 pages in (but who really deleted it because he's a ***** idjitard.) And even though I have that person on “ignore” now, I see that he/she/zhe who deleted the original thread is posting in this newly created one. Bold move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Oh really? Imagine that. Everyone knows that lawyers are the psychiatrists of the legal world. Makes perfect sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I like your takes too but on this its not worth arguing much further. I'll just post these as to what I was alluding to. Trump admits son met Russian for information on opponent - BBC News https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45079377 Aug 6, 2018 - US President Donald Trump has admitted his son met a Russian lawyer in ... Donald Trump Jr's meeting with Kremlin-linked lawyer Natalia ... Trump (Again) Admits His Son Met With Russian Lawyer To Get Dirt ... https://www.npr.org/.../trump-admits-his-son-met-with-russian-lawyer-to-get-dirt-on-clin... Aug 6, 2018 - Was President Trump admitting to collusion between his campaign and Russia? Was back to Epstein Wait. Are you still of the mindset that Trump colluded with Russia to tilt the election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, dubs said: And even though I have that person on “ignore” now, I see that he/she/zhe who deleted the original thread is posting in this newly created one. Bold move. I think you're confusing posters. The original thread was started and deleted by McGee. He hasn't logged on since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 46 minutes ago, Koko78 said: One would presume. I have no idea if MCC has a full camera system or not, I do not have anything to do with federal inmates. By way of comparison, the NYS Dept. of Corrections did not have working camera systems in all of their facilities until about 3 years ago. If federal prison guards are like NYS CO's then it's not uncommon for them to work double shifts so they get half the year off. If they're anything like most CO's I've encountered then I'm not surprised if this whole thing was just incompetence from the top down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: I think you're confusing posters. The original thread was started and deleted by McGee. He hasn't logged on since. i believe he is alluding to @BeginnersMind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said: I think you're confusing posters. The original thread was started and deleted by McGee. He hasn't logged on since. Oh! Ha. Apologies to he who shall not be named! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Foxx said: i believe he is alluding to @BeginnersMind or not, lol. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 https://www.thenational.ae/world/asia/ex-un-aid-worker-jailed-in-nepal-for-sexually-abusing-boys-1.884308 Not an “aid worker”. A UN Chief and a co-founder of UNICEF. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Am I the only one that feels that someone in prison who is under suicide watch the procedure should be he's given a gun, a rope and a bottle of pills and we watch to see which one he uses? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: So, basically a better paid Walmart greeter, eh? I never disparage the work Police Officers do. It's pretty much a thankless job for the most part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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