Phil The Thrill Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 FYI - Kim Goldman was a guest on Howard Stern today and shared her POV about O.J. Simpson’s comments on Twitter. This led to Howard ranting on OJ’s Twitter account: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/howard-stern-wants-oj-simpson-kicked-twitter-1224935 A lot of people joked about OJ being on Twitter. This interview shows the gravity of a very sad situation: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I heard OJ wants Howard kicked off so feeling is mutual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 He seemed Stern! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, Limeaid said: I heard OJ wants Howard kicked off so feeling is mutual. ....let's bring back Don Imus so Howard has a fellow polluter.....maybe even Artie....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Following Tim Graham on twitter, he seems like he was mentioned here? I thought he was actually on the show, but I guess not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 What is this Junior High? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I love Howard and can’t say enough great things about what he has done in his career BUT... it seems a tad bit hypocritical of him to want to silence anyone considering the years he spent playing the free speech card when he was getting harassed by the FCC. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Howard played solidly to the most racist tropes and skits throughout the whole trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Leonhart2017 said: I love Howard and can’t say enough great things about what he has done in his career BUT... it seems a tad bit hypocritical of him to want to silence anyone considering the years he spent playing the free speech card when he was getting harassed by the FCC. Twitter is a private company and can do whatever they want. Especially to a murderer and convicted criminal. There are plenty of people who have been banned from Twitter. The FCC is a government entity, and the Government can NOT infringe on free speech. Especially when it's just fart and dick jokes. Two completely different situations. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Leonhart2017 said: I love Howard and can’t say enough great things about what he has done in his career BUT... it seems a tad bit hypocritical of him to want to silence anyone considering the years he spent playing the free speech card when he was getting harassed by the FCC. Bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Twitter is a private company and can do whatever they want. Especially to a murderer and convicted criminal. There are plenty of people who have been banned from Twitter. The FCC is a government entity, and the Government can NOT infringe on free speech. Especially when it's just fart and dick jokes. Two completely different situations. I am actually not saying Twitter has to allow any user on their private platform. My point (and I hate to even get into this because I love Howard) is that it is a bit hypocritical of Howard Stern to use the philosophy of free speech when it is to his advantage but then want someone else silenced. He has given a platform to people like the Westboro Baptist church as well as an evil racist like Daniel Carver so it does go beyond just sophomoric humor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 27 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Twitter is a private company and can do whatever they want. Especially to a murderer and convicted criminal. There are plenty of people who have been banned from Twitter. The FCC is a government entity, and the Government can NOT infringe on free speech. Especially when it's just fart and dick jokes. Two completely different situations. Free speech is free speech, on any platform. Across any playing field you put it on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 59 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: Free speech is free speech, on any platform. Across any playing field you put it on. No, it's really not. You don't have the right to say whatever you want, and you certainly don't have the right to do it without consequences. You just have the right not to be imprissioned or sanctioned by the government for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Leonhart2017 said: I love Howard and can’t say enough great things about what he has done in his career BUT... it seems a tad bit hypocritical of him to want to silence anyone considering the years he spent playing the free speech card when he was getting harassed by the FCC. 1,000% this I listen to Howard everyday. I consider myself a huge fan but agree. CLEARLY, Howard hates OJ (and that’s fine). It’s tough for him to talk about silencing anyone though. He has made a career on free speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) My heart goes out to the Goodman’s. Howard is not funny anymore. He & O.J need to just go away. Edited July 18, 2019 by ALLEN1QB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 49 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: No, it's really not. You don't have the right to say whatever you want, and you certainly don't have the right to do it without consequences. You just have the right not to be imprissioned or sanctioned by the government for it. I think the term "free" is lost on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: I think the term "free" is lost on you. I think the understanding of the meaning of the First Amendment is lost on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, klos63 said: I think the understanding of the meaning of the First Amendment is lost on you. Nah, I have a firm grasp of it. Remind me in the first amendment where it discusses Twitter terms and services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, BillsFan17 said: Nah, I have a firm grasp of it. Remind me in the first amendment where it discusses Twitter terms and services. If you really had a firm grasp of the 1st Amendment, you wouldn't have written the 2nd sentence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, klos63 said: If you really had a firm grasp of the 1st Amendment, you wouldn't have written the 2nd sentence. So, what you are saying is, it's not in the first amendment? Gotcha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, BillsFan17 said: So, what you are saying is, it's not in the first amendment? Gotcha Shocking that the brilliant founders neglected to mention Twitter in the amendment. I wonder if they were worried we'd be too stupid to figure out who the gov't is and isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, klos63 said: Shocking that the brilliant founders neglected to mention Twitter in the amendment. I wonder if they were worried we'd be too stupid to figure out who the gov't is and isn't? I never once brought the government into it. My stance is you are inherently able say and or express your self, without anyone person or entity to infringe upon that. Idc if it's over the radio or on a social media platform. Deplatforming people creates very dangerous precedents. Simple as that. You can try whatever mental gymnastics you want to convince me otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: I never once brought the government into it. My stance is you are inherently able say and or express your self, without anyone person or entity to infringe upon that. Idc if it's over the radio or on a social media platform. Deplatforming people creates very dangerous precedents. Simple as that. You can try whatever mental gymnastics you want to convince me otherwise. No mental gymnastics involved, the topic was free speech, you don't understand the laws pertaining to free speech and you continually demonstrate that fact. Start swearing on the this site and see how long you last. You can get banned and the administrators have every right to do so. I understand your point, but I don't think you totally get how it works. 5 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: I never once brought the government into it. My stance is you are inherently able say and or express your self, without anyone person or entity to infringe upon that. Idc if it's over the radio or on a social media platform. Deplatforming people creates very dangerous precedents. Simple as that. You can try whatever mental gymnastics you want to convince me otherwise. That's not entirely true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said: No, it's really not. You don't have the right to say whatever you want, and you certainly don't have the right to do it without consequences. You just have the right not to be imprissioned or sanctioned by the government for it. Is an old man like Stern failing to “get the internet” grounds for censorship? no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 The genius of this media is that Richard Dawkins can try to fight back against 1,500 responses of “your a dick” before packing it in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Leonhart2017 said: I love Howard and can’t say enough great things about what he has done in his career BUT... it seems a tad bit hypocritical of him to want to silence anyone considering the years he spent playing the free speech card when he was getting harassed by the FCC. He didn't brutally murder two human beings. There is zero hypocrisy, here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Howard was the first to publicly make fun of the OJ murders, causing Letterman huge embarrassment during an appearance on Late Night. Then Dave was cracking jokes a few weeks later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) I love you, OJ! Classic Nordberg gif to remember the times before the lies. Edited July 18, 2019 by Paulus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Paulus said: I love you, OJ! Classic Nordberg gif to remember the times before the lies. He went over that rail like a WARRIOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, BillsFan17 said: Free speech is free speech, on any platform. Across any playing field you put it on. No, it's not. Not when we're discussing Free Speech as it pertains to the 1st Amendment. The American ideal of 1st Amendment Free Speech is specifically about the Government and only the Government not blocking your free speech. Any private entity can block, ban, censor you all they want. There is no law protecting you from being banned from Twitter, or fired from work, or kicked out of a party, for popping off or being a persona non grata. It's kinda sad we even need to have this conversation. And I only responded to your original post because Im so tired of seeing people misunderstand how "1st Amendment Protected Free Speech" works. Edited July 18, 2019 by DrDawkinstein 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 when it comes to howard wanting to silence oj, i don't think it has anything to do with free speech. i think he's more on a rant about oj self promoting, and possibly making a profit on it while the goldmans have received very little from the civil settlement. this is my take on his take, but it seems like the fact that oj is broadcasting from nice homes, golf courses, etc, and living a nice life even after he got off murder is what bothers howard. it's not so much censoring him because of a message. on top of that, remember, the guy is filling up airtime. it's all part of the act. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Gugny said: He went over that rail like a WARRIOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I miss the 80s so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: No, it's not. Not when we're discussing Free Speech as it pertains to the 1st Amendment. The American ideal of 1st Amendment Free Speech is specifically about the Government and only the Government not blocking your free speech. Any private entity can block, ban, censor you all they want. There is no law protecting you from being banned from Twitter, or fired from work, or kicked out of a party, for popping off or being a persona non grata. It's kinda sad we even need to have this conversation. And I only responded to your original post because Im so tired of seeing people misunderstand how "1st Amendment Protected Free Speech" works. Censorship demands because you can’t take a good natured ribbing or understand an obvious joke is hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, row_33 said: Censorship demands because you can’t take a good natured ribbing or understand an obvious joke is hilarious Where was that done here? Where did I mention that in any of my posts? Im simply clarifying the law. If you are feeling victimized and oppressed, that's a different conversation. Edited July 18, 2019 by DrDawkinstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Where was that done here? Where did I mention that in any of my posts? Im simply clarifying the law. If you are feeling victimized and oppressed, that's a different conversation. Thanks F Lee Bailey Jr. all this free and totally unasked for legal advice here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: Thanks F Lee Bailey Jr. all this free and totally unasked for legal advice here You're Welcome! Always happy to help people better understand our wonderful Constitution here in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Oh, hello Twitterland. Didn't see you there.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Kim Goldman looks really good at 47 years old. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 On 7/17/2019 at 2:06 PM, Phil The Thrill said: A lot of people joked about OJ being on Twitter. This interview shows the gravity of a very sad situation: The ‘gravity’ of one more buffoon in a population of millions of them spewing nonsense on Twitter? Wow. p.s. The Goldman’s should have gotten better grief therapy. Still doing OJ interviews 25 years later is what is sad here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 On 7/17/2019 at 5:11 PM, Limeaid said: I heard OJ wants Howard kicked off so feeling is mutual. Lol exactly!!! 18 hours ago, Gugny said: He didn't brutally murder two human beings. There is zero hypocrisy, here. So all criminals should be banned from Twitter? hurray no more Donald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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