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1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Genny was cheap to drink if you were short on cash 

 

I have never had a lite beer.   I'd rather a beer gut that drink watered down swill  

you've never tasted a lite beer?  ever?

54 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Anyone else kinda burnt out on craft beer and cocktails?  I think I've had just about every craft, local, small batch, artisanal, cruelty free, organic, free range, fair trade beer and liquor out there.  The market is beyond saturated.  I hate to break it to you, but most local breweries and distilleries are garbage.  They do well because they're local and people don't know what quality looks like.  

 

Now the better craft brews from other parts of the country which used to be readily available on tap at my go to spots have been muscled out by local mediocrity.  And its 105 degrees outside.  I'll take a bucket of them beers with the blue mountains on the can or a zima. 

some if it is absolutely disgusting.  i was given vodka from a local distillery.  it wasn't cheap, and was probably the most disgusting booze to ever cross my lips.  i had to choke that drink back and lie about how much i loved the gift.  

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1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Buffalo is a Blue Collar town... But that's changing.  It's going soft.  Next, they will be into firing single mothers on Friday and stocking IPA in their fridge while Jesus mows their lawn on Tuesday!

 

Disgusting!  Disgusting I tell you... How far BFLo has fall into the White Collar, pencil pushing abyss!

 

Remember when we were cooler dragging, Northern, Upstate "sweater wearers" who could sneak a 30 pack of Blue® ,into their parkas and STILL get into Rich!

 

Now we are IPA drinking snobs stuck in "2-Beer High Gear" who steal smokers from neighbors, shop Walmart on Weekends, and have poor Hey-Zeus struggle with the lawn on Tuesday!

 

Next thing you'll tell me is that only 17% of Bills fans can drive Manual!

 

 

Oh... @BringBackFergy @Cripple Creek this post was clearly pointed at @Gugny

 

/smh in disgust and disdain! DANKE SHOEN... I will struggle w/my own lawn on Tuesday!

 

You’re a 75 year old 45 year old!!

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51 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

 

Cheap is what Genny and Blue taste like. There is much better local stuff then either one of those two. Big Ditch or Ellicottville is far better tasting. 

because it's not lite beer.  i've been to the ellicottville brewery a number of times.  my wife loves the town, so we stay there once a year typically.  there beer is good, but it's like any other craft beer on the market.  i just don't know why you're comparing the two.  this shouldn't be this hard.

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6 minutes ago, teef said:

because it's not lite beer.  i've been to the ellicottville brewery a number of times.  my wife loves the town, so we stay there once a year typically.  there beer is good, but it's like any other craft beer on the market.  i just don't know why you're comparing the two.  this shouldn't be this hard.

It must be an American thing cause in Canada lite beer seems to only popular with the older crowd. The younger generation will drink Canadian or Alexander Keith's at a party or tailgating. 

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1 minute ago, Jrb1979 said:

It must be an American thing cause in Canada lite beer seems to only popular with the older crowd. The younger generation will drink Canadian or Alexander Keith's at a party or tailgating. 

i'm jumping between the two threads, so sorry if i'm repeating myself.  it's not an american thing at all.  you just see what's going on around you immediately, and are assuming that's how it is for everyone.  first you think it's a wny thing, now you're assuming it's an american thing, sprinkled in with an age limitation.  how about the idea that people like different beer for different occasions?  

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1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

I may have tasted one and then not finished it.  

 

so if you were at a party, and the only beer was lite, you wouldn't drink it?

 

people are acting like it taste like acid.  it's just a lighter, more watered down beer.  the taste isn't bad...it's just super mild.  now i'm just picturing a bunch of sweaty guys sitting around drinking stouts on a 90 degree day.

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1 hour ago, Jrb1979 said:

Hate to break it to you but I have been legally allowed to drink for 25 years now. I have never like Blue or Genny.  Yeungling is my go to if I am tailgating or at a party. Goes down easy and is good tasting. 

Cheap is what Genny and Blue taste like. There is much better local stuff then either one of those two. Big Ditch or Ellicottville is far better tasting. 

 

I think the mistake you're making is that you're comparing mass-produced, light beer to hoppy/heavy/higher ABV microbrews.

 

You can't compare them.  They're totally different beverages.

 

And many people drink BOTH of them ... just in different settings.

 

Know what I mean, Vern?

 

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7 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I think the mistake you're making is that you're comparing mass-produced, light beer to hoppy/heavy/higher ABV microbrews.

 

You can't compare them.  They're totally different beverages.

 

And many people drink BOTH of them ... just in different settings.

 

Know what I mean, Vern?

 

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he doesn't understand.  two different types of beer for two different types of occasions.

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11 minutes ago, teef said:

so if you were at a party, and the only beer was lite, you wouldn't drink it?

 

people are acting like it taste like acid.  it's just a lighter, more watered down beer.  the taste isn't bad...it's just super mild.  now i'm just picturing a bunch of sweaty guys sitting around drinking stouts on a 90 degree day.

that sums it up. 

 

(plus I'm always the DD so .. )

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Just now, ShadyBillsFan said:

that sums it up. 

 

(plus I'm always the DD so .. )

well that makes more sense.  if i'm only having a beer or two, i'd go the good beer route as well.

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1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I once ordered an $18 dollar beer at a bar down the road from me.  It was incredibly delicious...best beer I've ever had.  I wanted a second one but $36 on two beers....that could buy me 9 lite beers.

i'd get angry if i paid that much for a martini.  even in rochester i have to pay $15 for a good mixed drink, and that annoys me.  $18 for a beer?  i don't think i can mentally do it.

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8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I once ordered an $18 dollar beer at a bar down the road from me.  It was incredibly delicious...best beer I've ever had.  I wanted a second one but $36 on two beers....that could buy me 9 lite beers.

 

6 minutes ago, teef said:

i'd get angry if i paid that much for a martini.  even in rochester i have to pay $15 for a good mixed drink, and that annoys me.  $18 for a beer?  i don't think i can mentally do it.

 

Never in a million years.  The $11-$12 beers at football/baseball games and concerts are my limit.

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3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

@Gugny @teef

 

It was the best beer I've ever had.  I'm not lying.

 

That's fantastic and I can't describe how happy I am for you.

 

But there's no (12-16 oz.) beer, to me, worth $18.

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37 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I once ordered an $18 dollar beer at a bar down the road from me.  It was incredibly delicious...best beer I've ever had.  I wanted a second one but $36 on two beers....that could buy me 9 lite beers.

 

34 minutes ago, teef said:

i'd get angry if i paid that much for a martini.  even in rochester i have to pay $15 for a good mixed drink, and that annoys me.  $18 for a beer?  i don't think i can mentally do it.

 

Thank God I'm a DD.    that sit is too spensive for my cheapass

 

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

That's fantastic and I can't describe how happy I am for you.

 

But there's no (12-16 oz.) beer, to me, worth $18.

 

unless its laced with some good drugs  ;)

 

Christ I remember drinking beers at the bowling alley on University for 50 cents a piece 

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5 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

Which is not a bad thing. A lot of micro brews are really good. Seeing some of the big brews slowly die down is a good thing. Light and bland tasting beer will be a thing of the past soon. 

Having a Blue Collar Identity is fine, what bugs me is how people want the Bills and Sabres to represent that. The fanbase can't stand talented me first kind of players that usually put your team over the top. Look at when the Bills were trying to get Antonio Brown and how a lot of Bills fans don't want a "DIVA"  like that on my team. The older Bills fanbase needs to live in the now and stop trying to keep things like they were in the past. 

I don't think whatever happened with the Antonio Brown deal had anything to do with what the fans may have said.  Fans are fans and will always have something to say, just part of being a fan.

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5 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

Which is not a bad thing. A lot of micro brews are really good. Seeing some of the big brews slowly die down is a good thing. Light and bland tasting beer will be a thing of the past soon. 

No it wont. I love IPA's but when it's 95 degrees and you just finished mowing, something with less bite is what I want. By and large I would guess there are still more Miller Lite and Coors Light drinkers out there than craft beer people. 

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6 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I once ordered an $18 dollar beer at a bar down the road from me.  It was incredibly delicious...best beer I've ever had.  I wanted a second one but $36 on two beers....that could buy me 9 lite beers.

Was there a free cover charge and nekid ladies on stage?

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10 hours ago, Marv's Neighbor said:

The "blue collar" came from all the industrial plants, that are now mostly gone.  All those plants were surrounded by neighborhood bars, where the employees used to cash their checks.  They also paid their current bar tab and started a new one.  They drank whatever was "on tap;"  Iraquois, Manru, Schmidts, Kochs, Simon Pure, Carlings, etc.

 

They were happy with whatever was availablere after 8-10 hours in the mill/plant.  Can't imagine anyone of them having any interest in the modern craft beers. 

 

Hope we keep the Blue Collar ID.  Better than pencil neck.

I’m grabbing a latté and looking for my safe space after reading this post

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14 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

No.  Just 50 year old men talking about how athletic they were in high school.

 

Did you regale them with stories about how you scored 4 touchdowns in a single game when you played for Polk High?

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On 7/2/2019 at 11:39 AM, Gugny said:

Like you ... if I'm drinking for an extended period of time, it will be primarily light beer.  I'll normally start off with 2-3 of the IPAs, or mix them in.  But I can't drink IPAs all day long.

 

Story time - Years ago, the company I worked for did a retreat for all employees and spouses, to the Thousand Islands/Alexandria Bay. I and several other 20-somethings started bar hopping at noon. I stuck with Blue Light. About 10pm that night, after drinking all afternoon/evening (not pushing myself because I knew it would be a long day, but I always had something in my hand) the open bar became a cash bar. In our foresight, we stocked up our table before the switch. So when the table ran out of light beers, I switched to regular (like Bud or something). That first non-light beer hit me hard. I was definitely done for the evening. Not sure how I would have been if I had not done light beers all day. 

 

22 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I once ordered an $18 dollar beer at a bar down the road from me.  It was incredibly delicious...best beer I've ever had.  I wanted a second one but $36 on two beers....that could buy me 9 lite beers.

 

My now wife and I were down in NYC a few years ago around Christmas and ducked into a hotel bar to warm up. A waitress immediately comes over with a drink menu. We were going to buy a drink until we saw the prices. I forgot the brand, something you'd never pay more than $5/bottle for, like Miller, they wanted over $10/bottle. And a glass of wine, which she knows her prices, they wanted more $$ for one glass of a particular brand, than she would pay for an entire bottle here in Syracuse. We left. 

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On 7/3/2019 at 12:26 PM, Just Jack said:

 

Story time - Years ago, the company I worked for did a retreat for all employees and spouses, to the Thousand Islands/Alexandria Bay. I and several other 20-somethings started bar hopping at noon. I stuck with Blue Light. About 10pm that night, after drinking all afternoon/evening (not pushing myself because I knew it would be a long day, but I always had something in my hand) the open bar became a cash bar. In our foresight, we stocked up our table before the switch. So when the table ran out of light beers, I switched to regular (like Bud or something). That first non-light beer hit me hard. I was definitely done for the evening. Not sure how I would have been if I had not done light beers all day. 

 

 

My now wife and I were down in NYC a few years ago around Christmas and ducked into a hotel bar to warm up. A waitress immediately comes over with a drink menu. We were going to buy a drink until we saw the prices. I forgot the brand, something you'd never pay more than $5/bottle for, like Miller, they wanted over $10/bottle. And a glass of wine, which she knows her prices, they wanted more $$ for one glass of a particular brand, than she would pay for an entire bottle here in Syracuse. We left. 

Yeah, wine markups anywhere are among the worst.  Most places that sell by the glass will buy in a quantity where that first pour equates to their cost for the whole bottle.   That sucks. 

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On 7/2/2019 at 12:23 PM, Jauronimo said:

Anyone else kinda burnt out on craft beer and cocktails?  I think I've had just about every craft, local, small batch, artisanal, cruelty free, organic, free range, fair trade beer and liquor out there.  The market is beyond saturated.  I hate to break it to you, but most local breweries and distilleries are garbage.  They do well because they're local and people don't know what quality looks like.  

 

I've actually begun to purchase the original beer that started me on "good" beers again: Good old Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. Alcohol is down to 5.5%, it's consistent, you know what you're getting, etc.

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On 7/2/2019 at 7:11 AM, shrader said:

I think that love of Blue is going to slowly die off.  There's way too much available today thanks to the micro brew explosion.  It'll always be there, but once you have an entire generation of drinking who have been exposed to the current market, the tastes are going to shift.  Of course, Labatt will start to make other options as well.

I am with @LeviF91, light beers here forever. Ultra is now the 2nd highest selling beer in all the land.Hell, even the craft guys are all coming out with diet IPAs to compete with Ultra. My kid and his crew drink Bud or Miller Lite, with a few Natty lights thrown in. Even when he steals beer from beer fridge, he goes for the pilsners, not he good craft. Course that may be cause he thinks i only care about the crafts and not Bud Lights...but he be wrong!!

 

Also, kids under 25 are crushing the White Claws..and guys don't get chit for drinking them..HUGE market!!!!

On 7/2/2019 at 8:51 AM, Koko78 said:

 

I am in no way a beer snob, but Genesee beer (especially Genny Light) tastes like it comes from the Genesee river after Kodak has a major chemical spill.

Nah..Genesee is actually okay..and i have been drinking the Cream Ale again for the last 18 months..little sweet..but that style is roaring back and Genny Cream is the best one in the country..also i keep hearing this Genny Ruby Red Kolsch is pretty damn good for a nice summer beer..will be picking up a 12 of that next time in Wegmans.

 

Read some of the reviews on here..maybe change your mind a bit

 

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/302/1376/

8 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said:

 

I've actually begun to purchase the original beer that started me on "good" beers again: Good old Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. Alcohol is down to 5.5%, it's consistent, you know what you're getting, etc.

and it comes in cans!!!!

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5 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

and it comes in cans!!!!   (Sierra)

 

Yes it does! Great for canoeing.

My local brewery actually keeps a keg of Sierra at all times in the back for the staff to do sensory training on to make sure they are able to taste their own beer properly.

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1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

I am with @LeviF91, light beers here forever. Ultra is now the 2nd highest selling beer in all the land.Hell, even the craft guys are all coming out with diet IPAs to compete with Ultra. My kid and his crew drink Bud or Miller Lite, with a few Natty lights thrown in. Even when he steals beer from beer fridge, he goes for the pilsners, not he good craft. Course that may be cause he thinks i only care about the crafts and not Bud Lights...but he be wrong!!

 

Also, kids under 25 are crushing the White Claws..and guys don't get chit for drinking them..HUGE market!!!!

Nah..Genesee is actually okay..and i have been drinking the Cream Ale again for the last 18 months..little sweet..but that style is roaring back and Genny Cream is the best one in the country..also i keep hearing this Genny Ruby Red Kolsch is pretty damn good for a nice summer beer..will be picking up a 12 of that next time in Wegmans.

 

Read some of the reviews on here..maybe change your mind a bit

 

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/302/1376/

and it comes in cans!!!!

It's because you're a lush and Genny Screamers are higher alcohol content (krausening).  LoL... And it's cheap.  Why I bring them back for the one Cubs fan here... He laps it up!  Cheap buzz without having to break the bank on fancy dancy brew...

 

Do they still sell the "pounders"... More bang for buck and chase the DTs away!  LoL...

 

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