Tipping Getting Out of Control

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

I can't believe how cheap this board is.

 

You don't tip hotel maids? 

 

I’m not cheap. I promise. I’m generous at restaurants and we tip very well on a cruise. My wife spends more than half her month in hotel rooms. This week was NYC, Miami then back to Atlanta. Next week is Boston. We were at a big wedding in The Bahamas a few weeks ago. Nobody tipped the maids. Trust me, tipping for maids at hotels is not normal. I’m not opposed to those who do. Good for you, but it’s not normal. 

 

Not judging anyone in any way here. 

[SinceThe70s]

34 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I’m not cheap. I promise. I’m generous at restaurants and we tip very well on a cruise. My wife spends more than half her month in hotel rooms. This week was NYC, Miami then back to Atlanta. Next week is Boston. We were at a big wedding in The Bahamas a few weeks ago. Nobody tipped the maids. Trust me, tipping for maids at hotels is not normal. I’m not opposed to those who do. Good for you, but it’s not normal. 

 

Not judging anyone in any way here. 

 

I don't leave a tip behind at the hotel room either. Maybe it's an out-of-sight, out-of-mind thing for me.

 

On the other hand, I've  been on 2 cruises, both with young kids. Room keeping set up some awesome/hilarious towel 'sculptures' during the day and they got tipped.

[Augie]

16 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

I don't leave a tip behind at the hotel room either. Maybe it's an out-of-sight, out-of-mind thing for me.

 

On the other hand, I've  been on 2 cruises, both with young kids. Room keeping set up some awesome/hilarious towel 'sculptures' during the day and they got tipped.

 

I admit, I have to look up appropriate cruise tips when we go. We have a cool one booked in the fall from Barcelona to Lisbon, so that may make it different?  I’ll check it out before we leave. The kids got a kick out of the towels, and happy kids are worth a few dollars. 

 

Edited June 1, 2019 by Augie

[Ol Dirty B]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

I’m not cheap. I promise. I’m generous at restaurants and we tip very well on a cruise. My wife spends more than half her month in hotel rooms. This week was NYC, Miami then back to Atlanta. Next week is Boston. We were at a big wedding in The Bahamas a few weeks ago. Nobody tipped the maids. Trust me, tipping for maids at hotels is not normal. I’m not opposed to those who do. Good for you, but it’s not normal. 

 

Not judging anyone in any way here. 

 

I get it. When I go on trips it's 50/50 with my friends whenever the topic comes up.

 

When I was a kid my family owned a travel agency and that's how my mom and dad have always been. So maybe it's just engrained in me. 

[SinceThe70s]

6 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I admit, I have to look up appropriate cruise tips when we go. We have a cool one booked in the fall, and I’ll check it out before we leave. The kids get a kick out of that, and happy kids is worth a few dollars. 

 

 

I despise the 'appropriate cruise tip' mentality. That rubs me the wrong way. Feels like something that should be built into the cost by the cruise lines, but maybe it's just my mentality since I don't cruise very often.

 

How about this: do/should we tip stewardesses (or whatever we call them these days) when we deplane? They performed a service with the safety demonstration and may have passed out a kindergarten size bag of pretzels and ginger ale or maybe even a pillow or blanket. Should I tip them on the double Bloody Mary I need to make it cross country? 

[LSHMEAB]

2 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

I despise the 'appropriate cruise tip' mentality. That rubs me the wrong way. Feels like something that should be built into the cost by the cruise lines, but maybe it's just my mentality since I don't cruise very often.

 

How about this: do/should we tip stewardesses (or whatever we call them these days) when we deplane? They performed a service with the safety demonstration and may have passed out a kindergarten size bag of pretzels and ginger ale or maybe even a pillow or blanket. Should I tip them on the double Bloody Mary I need to make it cross country? 

Nah. Never heard of that one. Something to consider in that scenario is that stewardesses earn a living wage without tips. The average is around 45 grand. 

 

The average housekeeper, waiter, delivery guy, pizza clerk, and barber aren't making anything approaching 45 grand. 

 

Some may see that as a non factor, but it's something I personally take into consideration.

 

 

[Q-baby!]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

I’m not cheap. I promise. I’m generous at restaurants and we tip very well on a cruise. My wife spends more than half her month in hotel rooms. This week was NYC, Miami then back to Atlanta. Next week is Boston. We were at a big wedding in The Bahamas a few weeks ago. Nobody tipped the maids. Trust me, tipping for maids at hotels is not normal. I’m not opposed to those who do. Good for you, but it’s not normal. 

 

Not judging anyone in any way here. 

I always tip when I am leaving a hotel room, especially if I have been there a few days. 10 bucks per day approximately. 

[Augie]

1 minute ago, Q-baby! said:

I always tip when I am leaving a hotel room, especially if I have been there a few days. 10 bucks per day approximately. 

 

After our trip to a resort in the Bahamas a few weeks ago, that would have felt extreme. We were in a high end resort, but didn’t get the room refreshed until the third day. I went to the desk to ask for service and fresh towels....they brought dozens of towels. I could have invited everyone reading this for that many towels. 

 

I travel a good bit, and my wife’s is on the road more than at home. Good for you if you want to go that far beyond what is customary. I love you for that. My wife has recently been traveling with a group of HIGH level people staying at elite hotels. NOBODY thinks of tipping. Maybe it’s a matter of whether you stay at the Hampton Inn vs the St Regis?  

[Q-baby!]

7 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

After our trip to a resort in the Bahamas a few weeks ago, that would have felt extreme. We were in a high end resort, but didn’t get the room refreshed until the third day. I went to the desk to ask for service and fresh towels....they brought dozens of towels. I could have invited everyone reading this for that many towels. 

 

I travel a good bit, and my wife’s is on the road more than at home. Good for you if you want to go that far beyond what is customary. I love you for that. My wife has recently been traveling with a group of HIGH level people staying at elite hotels. NOBODY thinks of tipping. Maybe it’s a matter of whether you stay at the Hampton Inn vs the St Regis?  

I think it started when my kids were younger and I felt guilty if we left it a little messy because we were in a hurry to get to some sporting event. We tend to stay at some pretty nice hotels we we travel on our own (we also travel a lot in an RV) but we stayed at the chain hotels with the other team members when it was for sports. Same tip either way. 

[Gugny]

2 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said:

I can't believe how cheap this board is.

 

You don't tip hotel maids? 

 

I go to a black barbershop and have been for years. I've never seen them refuse a tip, however it's mostly priced there as 20 bucks includes the tip.

 

The barbershop I go to has beige walls adorned with Betty Boop paraphernalia.  It's $13 for the cut and I give a $5 tip (that's 18 bucks, total).  I'm not sure if a black barbershop, in comparison to the beige one I go to, has different tipping expectations.

 

Can you help me understand?

[Cripple Creek]

5 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

The barbershop I go to has beige walls adorned with Betty Boop paraphernalia.  It's $13 for the cut and I give a $5 tip (that's 18 bucks, total).  I'm not sure if a black barbershop, in comparison to the beige one I go to, has different tipping expectations.

 

Can you help me understand?

My barbershop has mauve walls. I will check with @Ol Dirty B to see how much I should tip.

[Teddy KGB]

The Latin barbershop I go to loves tips 

 

Barbers are all Dominican or Puerto Rican. 

[Misterbluesky]

On 5/31/2019 at 11:36 AM, Limeaid said:

 

I think he means 1/4 brick.  It is California.

Lime..America has jumped up to a different level these days...those heavy loads contained dirt and plant junk.You would be surprised to see (numbers) how many people "grow solo" now ...this generation doesn't feel comfortable with meeting "Sammy the Stick" on a side street in the city any more.I know a retired cop that wants into the run (once it's legal).

Just My Two Cents Worth.

Peace

[LSHMEAB]

14 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

The barbershop I go to has beige walls adorned with Betty Boop paraphernalia.  It's $13 for the cut and I give a $5 tip (that's 18 bucks, total).  I'm not sure if a black barbershop, in comparison to the beige one I go to, has different tipping expectations.

 

Can you help me understand?

It's been explained to me as a cultural thing. The tip is basically included in what you pay. FWIW anyways.

 

BTW, 5 bucks on a 13 dollar haircut is solid.

[Ol Dirty B]

21 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

The barbershop I go to has beige walls adorned with Betty Boop paraphernalia.  It's $13 for the cut and I give a $5 tip (that's 18 bucks, total).  I'm not sure if a black barbershop, in comparison to the beige one I go to, has different tipping expectations.

 

Can you help me understand?

 

I can't because you've totally taken the conversation out of context. But 5 on 13 is great.

15 hours ago, Cripple Creek said:

My barbershop has mauve walls. I will check with @Ol Dirty B to see how much I should tip.

 

$50. I don't know what mauve walls are but you should go broke for sounding like someone who watches Bravo.

 

So 50 dollar tip for the mauve walls.

Edited June 2, 2019 by Ol Dirty B

[Gugny]

I just ordered some food from our favorite local establishment (it's not a black establishment, in case Ol' DB is listening).  Close to closing time, but I called ahead to see what the cutoff was.  Paid by card over the phone.  Five minutes later, the girl calls me back and says since it's so close to closing, if I was going to tip on the card, she'd appreciate me telling her how much it would be.

 

I told her ... "I don't tip anyone, ever."  She said, "really???  oh."   Then I told her I was kidding and that I had cash for a tip.  She got a kick out of it.

 

Total is about $19.  I'm giving a $5 tip.

 

 

Edited June 2, 2019 by Gugny

[Chandler#81]

9 hours ago, Gugny said:

I just ordered some food from our favorite local establishment (it's not a black establishment, in case Ol' DB is listening).  Close to closing time, but I called ahead to see what the cutoff was.  Paid by card over the phone.  Five minutes later, the girl calls me back and says since it's so close to closing, if I was going to tip on the card, she'd appreciate me telling her how much it would be.

 

I told her ... "I don't tip anyone, ever."  She said, "really???  oh."   Then I told her I was kidding and that I had cash for a tip.  She got a kick out of it.

 

Total is about $19.  I'm giving a $5 tip.

 

 

You, Sir, are a Prick!

[Teddy KGB]

I tipped 8.00 on 72.00 bill tonite.  

 

Waitress was nowhere to be seen and all

the drinks were empty for 10 mins after someone else brought us the food.  

 

 

[Mike in Horseheads]

9 hours ago, Gugny said:

I just ordered some food from our favorite local establishment (it's not a black establishment, in case Ol' DB is listening).  Close to closing time, but I called ahead to see what the cutoff was.  Paid by card over the phone.  Five minutes later, the girl calls me back and says since it's so close to closing, if I was going to tip on the card, she'd appreciate me telling her how much it would be.

 

I told her ... "I don't tip anyone, ever."  She said, "really???  oh."   Then I told her I was kidding and that I had cash for a tip.  She got a kick out of it.

 

Total is about $19.  I'm giving a $5 tip.

 

 

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Posted Tuesday at 11:10 AM

I think tipping for takeout is nuts.  I've never done it and I never will.

 

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Edited June 2, 2019 by Mike in Horseheads

[Punching Bag]

2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

You, Sir, are a Prick!

 

Sir Prick? Sounds like an official title.

[Gugny]

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Posted Tuesday at 11:10 AM

I think tipping for takeout is nuts.  I've never done it and I never will.

 

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This was delivery, Michael.

[Foxx]

as a general rule, I always leave a tip. 

 

something like....

don't stand up in a canoe

or maybe

don't piss in the wind

or maybe

if it smells like fish, ....

or maybe.....

Edited June 2, 2019 by Foxx

[Logic]

On 5/31/2019 at 7:20 PM, Augie said:

 

I’m not cheap. I promise. I’m generous at restaurants and we tip very well on a cruise. My wife spends more than half her month in hotel rooms. This week was NYC, Miami then back to Atlanta. Next week is Boston. We were at a big wedding in The Bahamas a few weeks ago. Nobody tipped the maids. Trust me, tipping for maids at hotels is not normal. I’m not opposed to those who do. Good for you, but it’s not normal. 

 

Not judging anyone in any way here. 

As someone who has worked in hotels for 6 years now, I can tell you that this is not accurate. I have a good rapport with the housekeeping supervisors, and it absolutely IS normal to tip housekeepers. Not a ton, but a couple dollars on the nightstand, at least.

[Logic]

While I'm here, I just wanted to say this: TIP YOUR BELLMEN AND VALETS!

If someone hefts 150 lbs of luggage out of your car and up to the 15th floor and gives you restaurant suggestions, all while making small talk and explaining the hotel's amenities, GIVE THEM A FEW BUCKS! If someone looks after your rare, nice vehicle and ensures that it gets pulled up and parked promptly, GIVE THEM A FEW BUCKS!

I can't TELL you how many people don't even think to tip hotel workers who are doing  work that should OBVIOUSLY warrant tips. It's nuts.

[PetermansRedemption]

I’m wondering how far the “tip creep” will go? Will it get to the point where pretty much everyone gets tipped? Cop who responded to your neighbors house for noise? Tip him a few bucks. Pilot got you to your destination? Tip him. Accountant did your taxes? Tip for you. Cashier at the grocery store bagged your goods? Tip! 

[unbillievable]

On 5/29/2019 at 9:40 AM, row_33 said:

 

when I've paid the bill at Chinese restaurants, people at my table of that background have upbraided me for being way too generous...

okay....

people are going to whine and kvetch over an extra $3 ????

I''ve also been accused of being a generous tipper, and will also leave cash (to reduce taxes) when tipping even on card transactions.

 

One time, I noticed that my grandma would take some of the cash from the table right before we left, whenever she believed I had tipped too much. Then I caught my mother doing it too!

 

Neither of them grew up in this country so I understand the reluctance. Over the years, 've slowly worn the family down to at least allow the occasional tip over 20%

[Augie]

57 minutes ago, Logic said:

As someone who has worked in hotels for 6 years now, I can tell you that this is not accurate. I have a good rapport with the housekeeping supervisors, and it absolutely IS normal to tip housekeepers. Not a ton, but a couple dollars on the nightstand, at least.

 

Alright, I’ve found one buddy who tips for extended stays. This is just weird to me. Bellmen and valets, of course. What’s next? Your kid’s school bus driver? They do an important job, and it’s rough at times, but do you tip them? Where is the line? It’s not that we’re cheap at all. 

 

Whoever mentioned the restroom attendants struck a nerve. I’ve been handling my business without assistance for quite some time. Thanks, I’m good. 

[Augie]

56 minutes ago, unbillievable said:

I''ve also been accused of being a generous tipper, and will also leave cash (to reduce taxes) when tipping even on card transactions.

 

One time, I noticed that my grandma would take some of the cash from the table right before we left, whenever she believed I had tipped too much. Then I caught my mother doing it too!

 

Neither of them grew up in this country so I understand the reluctance. Over the years, 've slowly worn the family down to at least allow the occasional tip over 20%

 

Early in my wife’s banking career her mentor taught her a lesson. He noticed her tip on an expense report and pointed out “on your own dime you can do whatever you want, but if the bank is paying you need to limit to X%.” I forget the exact limit, but she’s been very exact ever since, even if it’s not an expense item. My little math major even does the math right on the bill and shows her work. Haha

[PetermansRedemption]

13 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Early in my wife’s banking career her mentor taught her a lesson. He noticed her tip on an expense report and pointed out “on your own dime you can do whatever you want, but if the bank is paying you need to limit to X%.” I forget the exact limit, but she’s been very exact ever since, even if it’s not an expense item. My little math major even does the math right on the bill and shows her work. Haha

Side note to that. I’ve been wondering, should tips left be tax deductible? Should they not be considered a charitable contribution or gift for the receiver and therefore be non taxable? The receiver is simply receiving a gift. I feel that should be non taxable up to a certain amount. 

[Logic]

56 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Alright, I’ve found one buddy who tips for extended stays. This is just weird to me. Bellmen and valets, of course. What’s next? Your kid’s school bus driver? They do an important job, and it’s rough at times, but do you tip them? Where is the line? It’s not that we’re cheap at all. 

 

Whoever mentioned the restroom attendants struck a nerve. I’ve been handling my business without assistance for quite some time. Thanks, I’m good. 

Personally, when it comes to housekeepers, I think it should be proportional to how difficult their job will be once you leave. 

For instance, if I only stay a night or two and don't leave behind a bunch of trash or other gross things, I'll just leave a dollar or two. If I stay for FIVE days and leave behind pizza boxes and full trash bins and piles of towels, I'll leave a $5 or even $10 if the situation warrants.

Really, ALL tipping should be proportional. If I store a few bags for a guest for the day, a $2 tip is sufficient. If I store an entire CART worth of heavy luggage, valuables, etc, $2 becomes less reasonable. I used to deliver pizzas, same thing. If I travel 2 miles to bring you one pizza and some wings, a couple bucks is fine. If I travel 7 miles in a snowstorm to bring you two sheet pizzas, two containers of wings, and a few 2-liters, $2 is no longer appropriate.

Edited June 2, 2019 by Logic

[RochesterRob]

On 5/28/2019 at 10:58 AM, Mark80 said:

Is it me, or is tipping getting out of control?  Now, I go to a take-out place and they have the Ipad POS terminals that they hand you with tipping options that you have to decide what to tip.  Many with 15% on the low end up to 25%.  For take-out?  Seriously?  This is BS.  You don't even get a chance to decide if it was good service or not first, it's when you place your order.  You shouldn't be prompted to tip anything for take-out IMO.  But, I don't want to seem like that jerk that doesn't tip anything (they are making my food after all), so I'm screwed.  I'm just going to start bringing cash everywhere so I don't have to go through this.  It's total BS.  Just charge me what you want me to pay and be done with it.  Raise the prices even, I don't care, just stop this tipping for everything crap.

  Any place I go the check is still on paper and the tip gets paid with cash. 

[Punching Bag]

On 5/28/2019 at 10:58 AM, Mark80 said:

Is it me, or is tipping getting out of control?  

 

When it really gets out of control we will need to start tipping MODs.

[Gugny]

23 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

When it really gets out of control we will need to start tipping MODs.

 

We already pay dues.  I'm not tipping them.

[ExiledInIllinois]

9 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Alright, I’ve found one buddy who tips for extended stays. This is just weird to me. Bellmen and valets, of course. What’s next? Your kid’s school bus driver? They do an important job, and it’s rough at times, but do you tip them? Where is the line? It’s not that we’re cheap at all. 

 

Whoever mentioned the restroom attendants struck a nerve. I’ve been handling my business without assistance for quite some time. Thanks, I’m good. 

It's called: Boxing Day in Canada.  And isn't N.Jersey a tip happy state.

 

Now... Where does this scenario fit into things:

 

Try getting a plastic boat (in one piece, sure you can probably do it the hard way) through 44 tons of steel and a 6 foot waterfall. You'll wanna tip your local run of the mill neighborhood lock operator so you can be on your merry way.  LoL

 

Anyway... People wanna give me stuff all the time, I usually say no thanks.  I think ethically it's about $100 bucks now.  But, who knows with Donny in office, probably much higher.  The one time I towed a broken down yacht through the lock and to the marina... I did take the bottle of Cuervo Gold and 151... Dude was selling the boat and didn't want to leave a stocked bar. LoL... He already ran out the fuel... Why I towed his sorry azz downstream.

 

Now... Leaving "garbage/refuse" on the wall is another story!  " I gotta "throw it out."

[Bill from NYC]

8 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

It's called: Boxing Day in Canada.  And isn't N.Jersey a tip happy state.

 

Now... Where does this scenario fit into things:

 

Try getting a plastic boat (in one piece, sure you can probably do it the hard way) through 44 tons of steel and a 6 foot waterfall. You'll wanna tip your local run of the mill neighborhood lock operator so you can be on your merry way.  LoL

 

Anyway... People wanna give me stuff all the time, I usually say no thanks.  I think ethically it's about $100 bucks now.  But, who knows with Donny in office, probably much higher.  The one time I towed a broken down yacht through the lock and to the marina... I did take the bottle of Cuervo Gold and 151... Dude was selling the boat and didn't want to leave a stocked bar. LoL... He already ran out the fuel... Why I towed his sorry azz downstream.

 

Now... Leaving "garbage/refuse" on the wall is another story!  " I gotta "throw it out."

Are you a public servant?

[row_33]

getting a pizza from a non-chain conglomerate now costs $40 Canadian all-inclusive, with delivery and tip and tax.

 

$25 for the conglomerate

 

this isn't remotely worth it.

 

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

2 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

Are you a public servant?

Gifts for public servants used to be under $20... It's more now... Ethically to $100, I believe now. It was November, they ran out of fuel in the middle of the channel... Had to move them about 3,000 out of harm's way. Anybody capable of moving in a hurry would have been put away for the winter.  Big commercial craft still ply the water, even through ice. I had to actually unhook the water circulation (keeps ice from forming around the vessel) systen of our boat before moving it. 

 

Any gifts offered can't be at the expense of others served or curry favor in the future.  Usually it's stuff like baskets around Christmas time... Stuff like soda, or other things left as refuse. Booze of course can't be opened or consumed on site.

23 minutes ago, row_33 said:

getting a pizza from a non-chain conglomerate now costs $40 Canadian all-inclusive, with delivery and tip and tax.

 

$25 for the conglomerate

 

this isn't remotely worth it.

 

 

It's always been around $30-40 bucks here as long as I can remember.  w/tip.

[row_33]

59 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Gifts for public servants used to be under $20... It's more now... Ethically to $100, I believe now. It was November, they ran out of fuel in the middle of the channel... Had to move them about 3,000 out of harm's way. Anybody capable of moving in a hurry would have been put away for the winter.  Big commercial craft still ply the water, even through ice. I had to actually unhook the water circulation (keeps ice from forming around the vessel) systen of our boat before moving it. 

 

Any gifts offered can't be at the expense of others served or curry favor in the future.  Usually it's stuff like baskets around Christmas time... Stuff like soda, or other things left as refuse. Booze of course can't be opened or consumed on site.

It's always been around $30-40 bucks here as long as I can remember.  w/tip.

 

you getting really ripped off, we practically have a 13% tax on fast food.

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

25 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

you getting really ripped off, we practically have a 13% tax on fast food.

 

Yeah... Pizza has always been a rip off here!  Sticker shock coming from Buffalo.

[Bill from NYC]

1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Gifts for public servants used to be under $20... It's more now... Ethically to $100, I believe now. It was November, they ran out of fuel in the middle of the channel... Had to move them about 3,000 out of harm's way. Anybody capable of moving in a hurry would have been put away for the winter.  Big commercial craft still ply the water, even through ice. I had to actually unhook the water circulation (keeps ice from forming around the vessel) systen of our boat before moving it. 

 

Any gifts offered can't be at the expense of others served or curry favor in the future.  Usually it's stuff like baskets around Christmas time... Stuff like soda, or other things left as refuse. Booze of course can't be opened or consumed on site.

It's always been around $30-40 bucks here as long as I can remember.  w/tip.

If you were a NYC Cop you would be arrested and fired for Receiving Illegal Gratituities (NYS Penal Law 200.30).

 

Gratuities = Good act

Bribery = Bad act.

Edited June 3, 2019 by Bill from NYC