Alphadawg7 Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 All the twitter buzz (unreliable of course) is all about him and Raiders. Seems thats the over whelming favorite, maybe there isnt even really 3 teams and that was just leaked by his agent to make AB seem in more demand for some PR love. Deal could already be done just not announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Get a sense of humor dude, and so would I. If you think lame nicknames are funny, enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: He doesn’t care about team success. He is working on his brand and his benjamins. He’ll figure he can thrive under the Vegas spotlight with no state income tax to boot. Well to be fair, I would rather play in warm and exciting Las Vegas in a brand new stadium than in Buffalo...and I am a Bills fan. But he emphasized winning, and Bills are a lot closer to that than the Raiders. Edited March 8, 2019 by Alphadawg7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Funny thing is Bills are light years in better shape than the Raiders and thats ironically where he will likely be. Over next 5 years, I bet the Bills average at least 3 more wins per season than the Raiders. I would disagree. Neither team is exactly in good shape, but the bills are still quite a few playmakers away from being one of the worst teams in the league. Raiders are loaded with picks and similar to us not sure if they’re gonna get good quarterback play or bad play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Augie said: The tax thing will even out after playing 1 or possibly 2 years in California. Where would they play in California? The Raiders aren’t even selling tickets for 2019. Certainly not Oakland, Santa Clara, San Diego, or LA. Don’t see the Giants sharing Oracle Park either. Berkeley? Doubt it. Palo Alto? Don’t think so. Wouldn’t they have to announce their home field before the schedule is released, especially if they’re planning to share a home field with another NFL team? Maybe Pasadena. Yeah, that’s it. Lots of little old ladies from there. ? . Edited March 8, 2019 by The Senator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Rc2catch said: I would disagree. Neither team is exactly in good shape, but the bills are still quite a few playmakers away from being one of the worst teams in the league. Raiders are loaded with picks and similar to us not sure if they’re gonna get good quarterback play or bad play. We have a lot of picks too and we are in way better overall shape. Raiders are light years away from a good defense and their offense is as devoid of talent as ours, if not worse. We have a lot of cap room to help fill the holes, and with an ascending young QB and a stout young defense, we are close to being a very good football team. Not to mention we have a better front office and coaching staff by a mile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Augie Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Senator said: Where would they play in California? Certainly not Oakland, Mountain View, San Diego, or LA. Berkeley? Doubt it. Palo Alto? Don’t think so. Maybe Pasadena. Yeah, that’s it. Lots of little old ladies there. ? . AB does love the ladies! ? They do have a deal for a year somewhere with an option for another. I don’t recall the details. Did I dream this up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Funny thing is Bills are light years in better shape than the Raiders and thats ironically where he will likely be. Over next 5 years, I bet the Bills average at least 3 more wins per season than the Raiders. Thats a safe bet IMO. Bookies in Vegas should be all over that! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: We have a lot of picks too and we are in way better overall shape. Raiders are light years away from a good defense and their offense is as devoid of talent as ours, if not worse. We have a lot of cap room to help fill the holes, and with an ascending young QB and a stout young defense, we are close to being a very good football team. Not to mention we have a better front office and coaching staff by a mile. We don’t have a lot of picks. If the raiders stand pat and use all 3 first rounders this year they could very well add some premium blue chip players and turn the whole thing around. 4 picks in the top 40 will land you some impact players Not saying they will, but they easily could. They also have like 60-70 million in cap space too I think to spend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Funny thing is Bills are light years in better shape than the Raiders and thats ironically where he will likely be. Over next 5 years, I bet the Bills average at least 3 more wins per season than the Raiders. Things can change quickly. And I think last year marked the start of some big changes in the NFL power structure. I'm optimistic that some of the teams who have been awful for several years (particularly the Browns, Jets and Bills) finally were able to get their franchise QBs. If I'm right, don't be surprised if all three of these places are prime targets for free agents by next year. The teams who have been dominating during that same time (particularly the Patriots and Steelers) are inching closer towards their Hall-of-Fame leaders finally retiring. And as we already know, finding a new franchise QB is much easier said that done. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: We don’t have a lot of picks. If the raiders stand pat and use all 3 first rounders this year they could very well add some premium blue chip players and turn the whole thing around. Gruden's doing the picking, though. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Golden Goat said: Gruden's doing the picking, though. Lol yes with Mayock,. The key word was COULD hahahaha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Augie said: AB does love the ladies! ? They do have a deal for a year somewhere with an option for another. I don’t recall the details. Did I dream this up? I don’t recall hearing that, but I haven’t followed closely... https://www.ticketnews.com/2019/01/raiders-season-ticket-holders-new-stadium/ If they did have a deal in place, you’d think they’d be selling tickets. Plus, if they plan to co-exist with another team, they’d have to let the league - or leagues - know, for scheduling purposes. OTOH, it should be easy to sell out 36,000 seats at Sam Boyd Stadium. . . Edited March 8, 2019 by The Senator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Golden Goat said: Gruden's doing the picking, though. And Mayock. I like Mayock as a talent evaluater, but his mock drafts leave something to be desired 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: We don’t have a lot of picks. If the raiders stand pat and use all 3 first rounders this year they could very well add some premium blue chip players and turn the whole thing around. 4 picks in the top 40 will land you some impact players Not saying they will, but they easily could. They also have like 60-70 million in cap space too I think to spend. We have 10 picks, including the 9th overall and 40th overall. And I trust Beane and McD to do a lot more with those first 2 picks than Raiders accomplish with their 3 first rounders based on draft history. And we are a whole defense ahead of the Raiders as it is. They need to a lot of improvements to just be where the Bills are today and have a inept staff running their ship to try and do it. 5 minutes ago, mjt328 said: Things can change quickly. And I think last year marked the start of some big changes in the NFL power structure. I'm optimistic that some of the teams who have been awful for several years (particularly the Browns, Jets and Bills) finally were able to get their franchise QBs. If I'm right, don't be surprised if all three of these places are prime targets for free agents by next year. The teams who have been dominating during that same time (particularly the Patriots and Steelers) are inching closer towards their Hall-of-Fame leaders finally retiring. And as we already know, finding a new franchise QB is much easier said that done. All great points and I agree with all of them. Browns I think will win their division, and I believe the Bills can and will contend to dethrone the Pats THIS year if Beane and McD have a strong offseason in rebuilding the talent around Josh on the offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: And Mayock. I like Mayock as a talent evaluater, but his mock drafts leave something to be desired As does every mock drafter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: We have 10 picks, including the 9th overall and 40th overall. And I trust Beane and McD to do a lot more with those first 2 picks than Raiders accomplish with their 3 first rounders based on draft history. And we are a whole defense ahead of the Raiders as it is. They need to a lot of improvements to just be where the Bills are today and have a inept staff running their ship to try and do it. I agree Dawg. I don't see this working out well for them. They have some great picks, but are gonna spend some on AB, and take combine darlings who will never live up to their selection. Its gonna happen that way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: We don’t have a lot of picks. If the raiders stand pat and use all 3 first rounders this year they could very well add some premium blue chip players and turn the whole thing around. 4 picks in the top 40 will land you some impact players Not saying they will, but they easily could. They also have like 60-70 million in cap space too I think to spend. Yes we do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, CaptnCoke11 said: As does every mock drafter Yeah well, he's made a career out of being way off. He spends all that time working on his craft, only to throw his work out and ppick a "sexy" choice anyway. Thats my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 5 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: We don’t have a lot of picks. If the raiders stand pat and use all 3 first rounders this year they could very well add some premium blue chip players and turn the whole thing around. 4 picks in the top 40 will land you some impact players Not saying they will, but they easily could. They also have like 60-70 million in cap space too I think to spend. You mean impact players... like... Mack and Cooper?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: We have 10 picks, including the 9th overall and 40th overall. And I trust Beane and McD to do a lot more with those first 2 picks than Raiders accomplish with their 3 first rounders based on draft history. And we are a whole defense ahead of the Raiders as it is. They need to a lot of improvements to just be where the Bills are today and have a inept staff running their ship to try and do it. I get it, but I don’t think they’re as far off as you’re making it. Pass rush fixes the defense pretty fast. One rookie and one free agent can transform that whole defense. I can understand not having faith in their front office though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: it will probably be the Raiders, it was always going to b the Raiders the more it looks I don't think they have the cash to afford high signing bonus from a restructure. Not cap space, actual cash on hand. That is rumored to be the real reason Mack and Cooper were traded, couldn't afford the upfront bonuses for the new deals. Edited March 9, 2019 by Mark80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, White Linen said: Yes we do. We have extra late picks. Raiders currently have 4 picks in the top 40 of the draft. Thats a huge difference in talent. Our extra picks more than likely are practice squad level players. Maybe you get a decent hit on one of them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 When a team is on the clock Mayock's pretty good a predicting the pick, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Antonio Brown can get bent. He's burning bridges left and right. I hope he crashes and burns. With all the ***** he talked on his QB (off the field issues aside), good luck ending up in a better situation going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Logic said: Schein on you crazy diamond? 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: You mean impact players... like... Mack and Cooper?!?! Lol well that’s a whole different conversation.. I guess cheaper probably not as good versions of Mack and cooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 46 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: If I were a rich, young, single guy I wouldn't mind living and playing in Las Vegas. They have no state income tax in Nevada either. I, like Logic, somewhat reluctantly agree that Vegas is a more desirable locale all things being equal. I think the tax thing is a bit overblown as it pertains to the Bills(and other teams for that matter). Most players have their primary residence elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I get it, but I don’t think they’re as far off as you’re making it. Pass rush fixes the defense pretty fast. One rookie and one free agent can transform that whole defense. I can understand not having faith in their front office though All good, but I still dont think they are as close as you think. Raiders had Mack, and the same defense still stunk and was a seive. They are a lot farther away from a good defense than a pass rusher. Their secondary is terrible so is the LB's and DL. Any of these guys would probably be the best player on the Raiders defense right now: Hyde, Poyer, White, Edmunds, Hughes, Zo, and maybe even Star. We have easily 5 guys who are better than any other Raider defender today, and one could argue 7. So I still disagree on how close they are. And I would take Josh Allen over Derek Carr right now too. Yes Carr has done more, but he hasn't been the same in years and Allen showed a lot of growth last year and elevated a bad team. Carr has squandered talent, I mean he couldn't even get Cooper involved while Dak made Cooper a star again. Allen elevated UDFA rookies who got cut during the season and made use of guys who perennially drop passes like Zay. PS: Radiers also now have to contend with Mahomes in that division, while Bills are in a division where the Elite is near the end and Jets and Mia are not much of a threat yet. Bills better suited for near term divisional success. Edited March 9, 2019 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Just now, Rc2catch said: Lol well that’s a whole different conversation.. I guess cheaper probably not as good versions of Mack and cooper I mean, to play devils advocate. If ABs biggest thing is playing for a winning team with a winning QB- selling him on futures and what they could possibly land in the draft is a weak launching point. What picks will they have to give up for AB and are we just assuming they will hit on absolutely every pick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: We have extra late picks. Raiders currently have 4 picks in the top 40 of the draft. Thats a huge difference in talent. Our extra picks more than likely are practice squad level players. Maybe you get a decent hit on one of them. You said we don't have a lot of picks. That is incorrect. So you think you were debating the Raiders picks vs the Bills? I guess you were having that conversation with yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Just now, BillsFan17 said: I mean, to play devils advocate. If ABs biggest thing is playing for a winning team with a winning QB- selling him on futures and what they could possibly land in the draft is a weak launching point. What picks will they have to give up for AB and are we just assuming they will hit on absolutely every pick... It can go a million different ways.. Just now, White Linen said: You said we don't have a lot of picks. That is incorrect. So you think you were debating the Raiders picks vs the Bills? I guess you were having that conversation with yourself. We don’t have a lot of picks. You can say 10 all day and be right, but that’s equal to 4 decent players if you get lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 hour ago, whatdrought said: Seems unlikely that Beane would go back on his saying it was over... Unless that was just a trade ploy to get them to lower their asking price by making them think we walked. I doubt it but it's always a possibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: It can go a million different ways.. We don’t have a lot of picks. You can say 10 all day and be right, but that’s equal to 4 decent players if you get lucky It's equal to the 5th most draft capital in the league. You're actually wrong on both accounts. We have a lot of picks and we have a lot of draft capital. I mean get emotional about it if you want. Those are the facts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: It can go a million different ways.. We don’t have a lot of picks. You can say 10 all day and be right, but that’s equal to 4 decent players if you get lucky I mean, yeah the raiders have one more pick than Buffalo, but a plethora of pending free agents. 33 (23 unrestricted) to be exact. There is no way to slice it, the Raiders are not in a better position than Buffalo currently. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author Breaking news! Adam Shefter reports that Antonio Brown has been traded to the Saskatchewan Rough Riders of the CFL. More details to follow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, DJB said: https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author Breaking news! Adam Shefter reports that Antonio Brown has been traded to the Saskatchewan Rough Riders of the CFL. More details to follow. And he would love to play there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: I mean, yeah the raiders have one more pick than Buffalo, but a plethora of pending free agents. 33 (23 unrestricted) to be exact. There is no way to slice it, the Raiders are not in a better position than Buffalo currently. Good point BillsFan17 3 minutes ago, DJB said: https://mobile.twitter.com/AdamSchefter?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author Breaking news! Adam Shefter reports that Antonio Brown has been traded to the Saskatchewan Rough Riders of the CFL. More details to follow. Fake News! (I learned that line watching AB's campaign) ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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