Rc2catch Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: The scapegoat. Why not fire the WR and TE coach while you're at it? Same level of talent to work with. I guess it can't hurt bringing in somebody new, but the lack of talent is what got Castillo fired. As far as Crossman goes, he's had some impressive units a couple of his years here so I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't let him go much to our chagrin. Plus, McDermott has a penchant for bald guys. I would disagree the talent got him fired. They had to expect better discipline and the big one.. progression from his unit. Fair amount of young lineman on the team who don’t seem to be getting much better. Miller was drafted and expected to be a decent guard.. Dawkins seems to have taken a step back. On top of the no name younger guys who were inactive a large portion of the season. Nobody really seemed to improve. Thats the definition of coaching is making players better. The receivers were lacking talent but you did see them progressing as the season went on. Night and day from the first quarter of the season to the last for the receivers. I would assume Castillo does quite well with seasoned vets who understand the game, but struggles developing younger guys learning the game. Of course that’s just my 2 cents. I’m sure he seen the writing on the wall quite some time ago with the performance of the line this season and how it never really got better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Rc2catch said: I would disagree the talent got him fired. They had to expect better discipline and the big one.. progression from his unit. Fair amount of young lineman on the team who don’t seem to be getting much better. Miller was drafted and expected to be a decent guard.. Dawkins seems to have taken a step back. On top of the no name younger guys who were inactive a large portion of the season. Nobody really seemed to improve. Thats the definition of coaching is making players better. The receivers were lacking talent but you did see them progressing as the season went on. Night and day from the first quarter of the season to the last for the receivers. I would assume Castillo does quite well with seasoned vets who understand the game, but struggles developing younger guys learning the game. Of course that’s just my 2 cents. I’m sure he seen the writing on the wall quite some time ago with the performance of the line this season and how it never really got better All valid pints. I thought our pass protection improved throughout the year, but our run blocking definitely struggled. If they can find a better coach to coach up these young guys than I'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieG Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well, kind of? As I understand it, Castillo brought in Ducasse and stuck with him. And it was his idea to trade Glenn? and demand RI to take a pay cut? and not bring in anyone but below average players through FA'cy? and wait until the end of the 5th round to draft anyone? Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Castillo and I'm not saying he wasn't part of the problem, but to try and use him as the root of the problems for the OL is...just plain incorrect. Lack of talent was by far the biggest problem on the OL and a new OL coach isn't going to change that. I'll go back to the paraphrased words of Mouse McNally, possibly the best OL coach of his era, back in 2006. "You know, I'm not a magician, most of what I do is based on the talent I'm given." If people think this is going to be simple "addition by subtraction"...well, the biggest addition will be talent influx. But based on 2 years...who they've gotten rid of, who they brought in, the priorities in drafting, the amount spent and the end result, their track record isn't good. Its actually very bad. So, I'm not as excited as others about firing an Oline coach. Not when the bigger problem still exists. I know, I know, the tired phrase, "let's see what happens" comes in right about this time. Well, I really don't have a choice but to see what happens. But in the end, its not for me to wait and see, its really up to them to improve the product. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Does anyone know if they hung up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Suprised he didn't get the boot with Dennison. He is a crappy OLine coach but his system matched with Dennison's way better than Daboll's. Never understood why Castillo gets so much respect in NFL when he sucks everywhere he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, CookieG said: But based on 2 years...who they've gotten rid of, who they brought in, the priorities in drafting, the amount spent and the end result, their track record isn't good. Its actually very bad. So, I'm not as excited as others about firing an Oline coach. Not when the bigger problem still exists. You would assume that Castillo has some say on who was brought in and drafted right? Actually, all things considered Dawkins and Teller seem promising... Can I also suggest something that might alleviate your disappointment- I’m sure that his replacement has already been hired and he might even be an upgrade.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, jkeerie said: Totally agree. Kromer was the best we had during the drought. Edited January 2, 2019 by BillsFan1988 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I am pleased, but I have to say also surprised. It is no secret he and Sean go back a long way and indeed Castillobwas his first hire here when he got the job. It is the right decision. Castillo hasn't produced a decent offensive line in over a decade and while I absolutely agree with those people who point to the talent he was given this year the sheer number of alignment and pre-snap penalties on the offensive line speaks to a group that simply isn't well enough coached or prepared. It is also true to say that while the line wasn't quite as bad in 2017 (started slow but played well down the stretch) it was still much less effective than it was under Aaron Kromer during the Rex Ryan era. This is an important hire for the Bills, because it is an area where they need to add personnel too and this coach is likely going to be asked for his opinion at the very least. They better make a good decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 7 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Man I wish. I loved his offense. His playcalling was awful at times, but that guy is a good coach. What he's doing in Baltimore is just really cool. Yep. Sadly there is no chance though. He was fired by the Pegulas not by Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 How bout Hue Jackson as Oline coach/running gm coordinator?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan1988 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I wonder if Eric Wood is qualified or even interested in the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 10 hours ago, Meazy26 said: Sean Kugler, OL coach from Denver is a guy I got my eye on for a replacement. Coached our OL for a few years back in the day. Maybe he could bring Matt Paradise with him. You know what, just thinking through the teams who have fired staffs his is one of the name you are left with. Jets - bad offensive line and a guy we fired last year; Cardinals - terrible offensive line on a par with Buffalo's (though in fairness a lot of injuries up front); Dolphins - bad offensive line; Buccaneers - bad offensive line; Bengals - bad offensive line; Browns - decent offensive line actually but that big fat fella off Hard Knocks doesn't scream process to me..... unless the process involves doughnuts; Denver's line has been solid (not great but solid). The other one is James Campen who has been the offensive line coach in Green Bay since 2007 and they have normally had pretty decent lines in that time save for a few years ago when injuries really hurt them. They also have a history of developing draft picks into starters on the line. There is, I think, a chance Green Bay keeps him around because he has worked his way up there from a quality control guy to offensive line and run game coordinator and is well thought of, but the Bills should at least put in a call and see what his plans are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: About time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Any chance the next oline coach comes from Alabama? Brent Key has been the oline coach since 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I mean this one shouldn't even have been close, and hopefully it wasn't. There were multiple running plays EACH GAME where the linemen were slamming into each other and blowing up the play before it started. John Miller regularly looked like he was "glitching" - he'd start to pull, then look around, then crash into Bodine or Groy or McCoy himself. It was a complete circus and there is no excuse for it. Castillo was stealing paychecks in 2018. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, BillsFan1988 said: I wonder if Eric Wood is qualified or even interested in the job. Hope not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Anyone have eyes on the Pegula jet, to see if there are any OL coaches being looked at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, PIZ said: Anyone have eyes on the Pegula jet, to see if there are any OL coaches being looked at? The jet is for players, and perhaps head coaches. OL coaches get a ticket on Greyhound, and a $10 food voucher. They learned their lesson with Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 12 hours ago, CookieG said: He was part of the problem, but the far larger problem was the lack of talent. Guys like Vlad, Newhouse and Bodine were bad before they ever got here. That's on McBeane. No. That's on a lack of cap space and trying to survive 1 year, with the unexpected retirements of Wood and Incognito 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, Mountain Man said: No. That's on a lack of cap space and trying to survive 1 year, with the unexpected retirements of Wood and Incognito They also made poor decisions that caused the lack of cap space as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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