JMF2006 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, jrober38 said: No. He doesn't need to be a Hall of Famer. I just don't think we should be committing ourselves to a HC who has fielded nothing but horrendous offenses. A guy who has shown no ability to evaluate QBs. A guy who insists on trading talent away so he can have guys who fit his culture, even if they can't perform on the field. A guy whose football team is now featuring the worst offense the NFL has seen in 20 years. What are we doing here? The NFL is about scoring points and we're still playing games not to lose, which never works out. McDermott is trying to win games 14-13 when the top teams in the NFL are doing the opposite, trying to win shootouts 35-30. Our whole approach is out of date and it's blatantly obvious on the field that McDermott's coaching philosophy doesn't lineup with what's happening in the modern NFL. This is 100% McDermott and Beane's choice. They're the ones who got rid of everyone we drafted except 3 guys prior to the 2017 season. I see your not trusting the process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, jrober38 said: No. He doesn't need to be a Hall of Famer. I just don't think we should be committing ourselves to a HC who has fielded nothing but horrendous offenses. A guy who has shown no ability to evaluate QBs. A guy who insists on trading talent away so he can have guys who fit his culture, even if they can't perform on the field. A guy whose football team is now featuring the worst offense the NFL has seen in 20 years. What are we doing here? The NFL is about scoring points and we're still playing games not to lose, which never works out. McDermott is trying to win games 14-13 when the top teams in the NFL are doing the opposite, trying to win shootouts 35-30. Our whole approach is out of date and it's blatantly obvious on the field that McDermott's coaching philosophy doesn't lineup with what's happening in the modern NFL. I'm not sure I agree with this to be honest. I think if he were content to winning games with defense and protecting the ball on offense to keep the scores down, Tyrod would remain the QB. Choosing to attempt to win games that way while we're clearly overmatched is different from if they continue to play that way once the offense has all the pieces they desire. I don't really agree with the way McBeane have gone about trying to rebuild the foundation, but it at least appears to me that the plan is to address the offense this offseason now that the defense is more or less set. Edited October 30, 2018 by DCOrange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said: Who would you like to replace him? An Innovative Offensive Mind that has experience developing QBs. John Defilippo comes to mind. Chris Peterson Lincoln Riley Edited October 30, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Personally I could care less about what any player or coach says to the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, Gugny said: A stat was shown last night pointing out that 40% of the Bills' roster is either 1st or 2nd year players. They showed something about the Buffalo Bills on ESPN? Most of the stuff I saw was on the greatness of Marcia Lady and the Cheats aside from the weird ass CG of the QBs, Randy Moss career highlights, Rand Moss at Niagara Falls and Young eating Applebees wings with Ranch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 When he is asked “what are you going to do to change the poor offensive play? ”, it sounds better to answer “look at the tape” rather than “ I don’t know” or “nothing the rest of this season” which are probably the correct responses.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Every McD press conference sounds the same. It’s always the same generic answers for every question. This shouldn’t be surprising to anyone st this point. This is just the way coaches talk to the media. McD and BB created this disaster of an offense and I don’t expect things to get solved through a single draft or offseason. Ultimately, I think it’s what gets everyone fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 He's not out of answers, he just keeps recycling the same ones every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 It's amazing how things don't change here. He basically is a Jauron replica and the same people who liked DJ are the same people who are defending him now, and for the same reasons. Jauron's teams were the kings of the moral victory. I remember in those first 2 years how much praise he got from certain people about how the team "stays in" games. It's the same ultra-conservative offense with a bend but don't break defense that allows the team to stay within striking distance...but it's not going to get you a lot of wins. The problem is, these types of coaches are content with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, Skins Malone said: I kind of feel like that's how he always answers. I mean what can he really say? The QB situation is beyond bad at this point in time...and the staff deserves blame for that. I know things are bad but McDermott and Bean McDermott deserve more time. I've said repeatedly that because of the Playoff birth in 2017, McDermott and Beane get 2018 and 2019 to try and get this thing turned around. But there are things that are really bothering me about this FO. 1. They selected Josh Allen. He was marginal at Wyoming, wasn't good in 5.5 games here, is hurt, and now Beane is saying he can't rule out him missing the rest of this year, and he's really the plan for 2019 after the Bills spend their cap and picks on offense? It looks like Manuel in 2014 again honestly. It was supposed to be a 2-3 week injury, and now they're talking about the rest of 2018. This is a huge concern. One hit on that elbow in 2019 and is he out? Forget the veteran presence, the Bills need to make a legitimate run at a QB this offseason. You can't bank on Josh Allen. His performance and that elbow is real. He can compete for the job no doubt. He gets all the reps he wants. But he can not be handed the job in 2019 with pathetic backups. 2. I really think McDermott thinks you can run over people in 2018. That you can Coach up scrubs and win. How is he any different offensively than Rex Ryan? Our fans hate Rex, how is McDermott any different? Look at the OC's he's wanted or hired - McCoy, Dennison and now Daboll. CONSERVATIVE. 3. The talent this FO has gone after in the skill positions - Boldin, Tolbert, Kerley, Coleman, Foster, Ray Ray McCloud, Kahari Lee, Benjamin, Kaelin Clay, Philly Brown, Rod Streater. Come on. Can you get serious? 4. Why is LeSean McCoy not in the slot, with Murphy and Ivory running straight ahead? McCoy can't run the ball anymore. He's frazzled and he loses yards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: An Innovative Offensive Mind that has experience developing QBs. Such as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, Bangarang said: Such as? John Defilippo comes to mind. Chris Peterson Lincoln Riley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I don't care what a coach says at press conferences...what bothers me is it seems we are going week to week trying to figure who is the starting QB . They broke down a decent offense to this...As bad as Taylor was as a passer, his threat to run helped McCoy and his scrambling kept drives alive...now we have this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I am really starting to question if McDermott is Head Coach material. He doesnt seem to know what he is doing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, jrober38 said: No. He doesn't need to be a Hall of Famer. I just don't think we should be committing ourselves to a HC who has fielded nothing but horrendous offenses. A guy who has shown no ability to evaluate QBs. A guy who insists on trading talent away so he can have guys who fit his culture, even if they can't perform on the field. A guy whose football team is now featuring the worst offense the NFL has seen in 20 years. What are we doing here? The NFL is about scoring points and we're still playing games not to lose, which never works out. McDermott is trying to win games 14-13 when the top teams in the NFL are doing the opposite, trying to win shootouts 35-30. Our whole approach is out of date and it's blatantly obvious on the field that McDermott's coaching philosophy doesn't lineup with what's happening in the modern NFL. This is 100% McDermott and Beane's choice. With today's Bills team, that's the only logical choice of strategy. They tried to build a better offense, but did a very poor job and are now stuck with what they've got. I look at it this way... He's a clear leader that the team plays hard for, so if we see continued improvement over his tenure, then I'm comfortable letting him continue as our head coach. But I also expect more bumps along the way. Edited October 30, 2018 by Jobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Shawn McDermott needs to be fired. Terry Pegula needs to have nothing to do with picking the next coach because he's had two swings and ***** it up both times. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, HomeskillitMoorman said: It's the same ultra-conservative offense with a bend but don't break defense that allows the team to stay within striking distance...but it's not going to get you a lot of wins. The problem is, these types of coaches are content with that. God I hate that bend but don't break style of defense. McD got it right when he took over the play calling vs the Chargers and had them playing aggressive and bringing the pressure on the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Every McD press conference sounds the same. It’s always the same generic answers for every question. This shouldn’t be surprising to anyone st this point. This is just the way coaches talk to the media. McD and BB created this disaster of an offense and I don’t expect things to get solved through a single draft or offseason. Ultimately, I think it’s what gets everyone fired. Totally agree. How much improvement can we reasonably expect in one offseason? We're currently scoring under 11 PPG. Does anyone really expect that number to move into the 20s, and essentially double in one year? Probably not. The Bills need to replace 8, maybe 9 players on offense. No chance that's happening in one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, BmarvB said: God I hate that bend but don't break style of defense. McD got it right when he took over the play calling vs the Chargers and had them playing aggressive and bringing the pressure on the QB. I've never felt more comfortable watching the Bills D against the PATs than I felt last night. I thought they played outstanding. If Edmunds is in the game, he stops James White on the PATS eventual only TD drive Edited October 30, 2018 by Jobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Jobot said: With today's Bills team, that's the only logical choice of strategy. They tried to build a better offense, but did a very poor job and are now stuck with what they've got. I look at it this way... He's a clear leader that the team plays hard for, so if we see continued improvement over his tenure, then I'm comfortable letting him continue as our head coach. But I also expect more bumps along the way. Continued improvement? The team has imploded this year. He inherited a decent team from Rex Ryan, and managed to go 9-7 last year. Now we're well on our way to a top 5 pick. No offense, but the team is rapidly moving in the wrong direction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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