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1 minute ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

Coach took the pansy way out and in no way shape or form do I believe he thinks Anderson gives them best chance to win. This is a puss move and just shows how lost he truly is. This will be the biggest shiitshow to date on Sunday.

 

Ummmm... are you seriously implying Peterman should start?! :doh:

 

Did you get hit in the head a lot or something as a kid?

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Just now, BuffaloBaumer said:

Coach took the pansy way out and in no way shape or form do I believe he thinks Anderson gives them best chance to win. This is a puss move and just shows how lost he truly is. This will be the biggest shiitshow to date on Sunday.

 

He can't stand in front of the Lockerroom and tell the guys Nate is starting. The players would think he's a complete buffoon.  He'd get zero respect for that decision.  At least he is showing the players that he will try something different to spark the offense.

 

That being said I think Anderson is gonna be at best mediocre, and at worse could be flat out bad.  I do not expect him to be dropping dimes all over the field. Not gonna happen.

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I bet Nate has to come into the game at some point. The same point McD’s tenure is pretty much over in buffalo.  Sure he might be here another year.  Another year of embarrassment.  

8 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Ummmm... are you seriously implying Peterman should start?! :doh:

 

Did you get hit in the head a lot or something as a kid?

 

Thats what I was wondering too. Did the GM and coach get hit in the head a lot as a kid.  You need to be making fun of the coach. Not him. 

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12 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

Coach took the pansy way out and in no way shape or form do I believe he thinks Anderson gives them best chance to win. This is a puss move and just shows how lost he truly is. This will be the biggest shiitshow to date on Sunday.

 

You sir are wrong. Peterman is a losing machine.

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15 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

That’s more credit than I’m willing to give. They’ve single handedly destroyed/ bungled the offensive side of the team. The QB quandary is sheer incompetence. Their moves have left the team so talent starved on offense that it will take three solid drafts to compete. They will not get that long. 

I think they actually will get that long.....

 

Hired the up and coming flavor of the year HC

Made it to the playoffs in their first year after a 17 year droubt

 

I think McD and Beane are safe....and because they are safe they want to biuld this team with blue chip draft talent

 

I dont think they expected to be as competative LAST year which screwed up their draft plans and had to move up for their QB.....trading away 2nd rounders in the process and Cordy Glenn who would have really helped this offensive line this year....you could have played Cordy at LT and Dawkins at LG......which would have at least solidified one side of the OL

 

 

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52 minutes ago, SoTier said:

Russini doesn't even have to try "to make McDermott look bad".  He's done that all by himself, most notably with his stubborn insistence that Nate Peterman remain on the team.  He is NOT a NFL-caliber QB by any measure and shouldn't be on the active roster.  Waiting around for five weeks to bring in a better backup QB than Peterman is inexcusable. 

 

 

Coaches have been fired for less.  IMO, McDermott is on borrowed time unless Allen can come back before he loses the locker room and the Bills start getting blown out every out.

Peterman is there for if Anderson goes down - otherwise we're watching Logan Thomas. And the guy who was a first year head coach of the team that ended our 18 year playoff drought is on borrowed time? Not saying all his decisions have been great, but both McD and Beane have themselves more time than anything this year can change. This team this year was never going to win 8/9 games, everything is on track as far as rebuilds go. 

 

Could they have handled the QB situation better? Absolutely - but look at SF having to start Beathard now with Jimmy out, or way back starting Curtis Painter (or Dan Orlovsky?) when Peyton went down. Sure these examples have Jimmy and Peyton, which is infinitely better than Allen, but these things happen and it's not like it kept us out of a super bowl this year. In the grand scheme of things, the only time they begin to enter that question of job security is after next season when they've had a chance to rebuild the offense as well.

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16 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

Coach took the pansy way out and in no way shape or form do I believe he thinks Anderson gives them best chance to win. This is a puss move and just shows how lost he truly is. This will be the biggest shiitshow to date on Sunday.

 

Umm....WHAT?

 

Nathan Peterman isn't just bad...he's epically bad.  I struggle to see the logic behind posts like this.  Derek Anderson, while no superstar, is a proven, veteran NFL QB who won't put the team at a disadvantage the moment he steps on the field.  He may not play well, but Peterman is the definition of untrustworthy.

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27 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Meaningful as in "when the game is still in doubt."  Peterman should only see mop-up duty on an NFL field.

Gotcha - I was thinking meaningful as in salvaging the overall season. I get that it's Week 7, but I don't see this team going 7-3, or even 6-4, even with Allen healthy. It sounds terrible, but I'm just not sure what season we're trying to save at this point? We don't have to try to lose with this offense, but watching a rebuild is never an easy thing and we certainly don't have the patience for it anymore. But sadly it's what might be needed to see a perennial contender putting up double digit win seasons consistently in the future.

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They can't keep Peterson on the roster next year and still say they are developing him. Once Allen is healthy he should be cut. Would rather Peterman be sent out there to sink or swim while Allen is out so this doesn't drag into next year. Also, prefer Anderson on the bench right next to Allen going over things during the game with him. I see no real benefit to Anderson playing other than possible mutiny within the team so I understand why decision had to be made.

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2 minutes ago, ctk232 said:

Gotcha - I was thinking meaningful as in salvaging the overall season. I get that it's Week 7, but I don't see this team going 7-3, or even 6-4, even with Allen healthy. It sounds terrible, but I'm just not sure what season we're trying to save at this point? We don't have to try to lose with this offense, but watching a rebuild is never an easy thing and we certainly don't have the patience for it anymore. But sadly it's what might be needed to see a perennial contender putting up double digit win seasons consistently in the future.

 

After this week the Bills will play 6 of their final 9 games at home.  Win at Indy and win 5 of the home games, and you're at 8 Ws.  The road games are the Jets, Fish, and Pats***.  Call me frickin' crazy but I don't think 10-6 is outside the realm of possibility -- with the way this defense is playing.

 

If you held a gun to my head I'd predict 6-10 or 7-9.

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29 minutes ago, ctk232 said:

Were we ever expected to contend this year even before the QB debacle though? Offseason moves would dictate likely not. I don't think they wanted it to be deplorably bad, like 0-16 Browns or 1-15 Colts bad, but something to support the process and rebuild. While I don't like it anymore than anyone else, rebuilds take longer than we've ever had patience for, and yes, it will likely take another season before we even begin to see anything like the intended result. But I'm hopeful for a perennial contending Bills team, and not one that consistently tries to scrap together 8/9 win seasons and prays to make the bubble...we cheer harder for a playoff berth than we do a successful and sustainable franchise.

Fans have been sold a bill of goods. The team was 9-7 last year and managed to make the playoffs. Improving the team enough to extract two more wins going forward ( 11-5 is a pretty solid record in the NFL year in and year out) was within their reach. They decided to take things unnecessarily downward. There is no rule book saying a team must scrape the depths in order to be perennial contenders. This FO has completely bungled the Bills. 

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2 minutes ago, eball said:

 

After this week the Bills will play 6 of their final 9 games at home.  Win at Indy and win 5 of the home games, and you're at 8 Ws.  The road games are the Jets, Fish, and Pats***.  Call me frickin' crazy but I don't think 10-6 is outside the realm of possibility -- with the way this defense is playing.

 

If you held a gun to my head I'd predict 6-10 or 7-9.

Lol that's fair. And I'd agree in so far as saying it's possible...just not probable in my mind. 5-11 or 6-10 seems more likely to me if anything depending on our offense.

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Will be interesting to see how Daboll's offense looks with an experienced QB, if they really were doing things like only half-field reads etc with Allen

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Just now, Boatdrinks said:

Fans have been sold a bill of goods. The team was 9-7 last year and managed to make the playoffs. Improving the team enough to extract two more wins going forward ( 11-5 is a pretty solid record in the NFL year in and year out) was within their reach. They decided to take things unnecessarily downward. There is no rule book saying a team must scrape the depths in order to be perennial contenders. This FO has completely bungled the Bills. 

Not sure there's enough out there to reach that determination just yet, but has perpetual mediocrity helped out any other team? Chiefs have always been a good team and lucked out with Mahomes and the group they put together - but the Bengals? Cowboys? both teams perpetuating mediocrity showing flashes of contending but never do. We had some pretty bad seasons, but our otherwise 18 year purgatory of mediocrity really did wonders for us too.

 

Bottom line is 8 or 9 wins a season should never be the goal, but it's where we end up every year: planning out the remainder of the schedule saying okay a win here, probably a loss there, but otherwise it's possible...whether or not we do end up making the playoffs, this is not a playoff caliber offense, nor was it last year. And that wildcard game was so very winnable if our offense does anything other than put up 3 points.

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Top 7 Storylines for Bills-Colts this Week

 

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It’s back to the road, for the fifth time in the first seven weeks of the season. The Bills are at work this week trying to bounce back from last week’s discouraging loss in Houston.

 

Here are the top storylines as the Bills get set to take on the Indianapolis Colts:

 

1. NEW MAN UNDER CENTER

2. CAN THE DEFENSE KEEP IT UP?

3. COLTS HAVE LUCK ON THEIR SIDE

4. LUCK’S GOT REICH ON HIS SIDE

5. REICH’S NOT THE ONLY WNY CONNECTION

6. OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BUFFALO OFFENSE?

7. END OF THE LONG ROAD HAUL

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1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said:

Yeah, I heard it reported yesterday (can’t remember where) that once he was the 3rd string QB he had no interest in sticking around anymore. 

Peter King said it on One Bills Drive I believe.  

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2 minutes ago, ctk232 said:

Peterman is there for if Anderson goes down - otherwise we're watching Logan Thomas. And the guy who was a first year head coach of the team that ended our 18 year playoff drought is on borrowed time? Not saying all his decisions have been great, but both McD and Beane have themselves more time than anything this year can change. This team this year was never going to win 8/9 games, everything is on track as far as rebuilds go. 

 

Could they have handled the QB situation better? Absolutely - but look at SF having to start Beathard now with Jimmy out, or way back starting Curtis Painter (or Dan Orlovsky?) when Peyton went down. Sure these examples have Jimmy and Peyton, which is infinitely better than Allen, but these things happen and it's not like it kept us out of a super bowl this year. In the grand scheme of things, the only time they begin to enter that question of job security is after next season when they've had a chance to rebuild the offense as well.

 

Believe what you want.  Make all the excuses you want. This is NOT about starting a rookie QB who is clearly not ready to be a starter, although that is something that McDermott is clearly guilty of as well.  It's also NOT about the starting QB getting hurt.

 

It's about McDermott stubbornly keeping Peterman on the team when he is simply not good enough to be a NFL QB, not even a backup.  The Bills shouldn't have wasted a fifth round pick on him in 2017, and he sure as hell shouldn't have been considered to be the starter in 2018 after his debacle as a starter in 2017.  That he "looked good" in preseason means nothing when teams don't game plan or scheme, and especially since he got the "softer" starting spots in the first and fourth preseason games IIRC since most teams don't play their starters much, if at all, in those games.

 

It's about McDermott and Beane trading away McCarron and not replacing him with a bonafide veteran QB until 5 weeks into the season because they apparently decided that Anderson was the only veteran QB worth pursuing  ... I'm guessing because he was the only FA QB out there with a Carolina connection.

 

The incompetence that McDermott's demonstrated with the QB situation underscores his unfitness to be a HC in the NFL in 2018 and in the future.   IMO, McDermott was close to losing the locker room even before Allen got hurt.  The ragged play on ST and the spate of pre-snap penalties on the offense against the Texans suggest that there was already a serious morale issue on the Bills -- and Peterman's latest performance may have been the nail in the coffin. 

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11 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

The incompetence that McDermott's demonstrated with the QB situation underscores his unfitness to be a HC in the NFL in 2018 and in the future.   IMO, McDermott was close to losing the locker room even before Allen got hurt.  The ragged play on ST and the spate of pre-snap penalties on the offense against the Texans suggest that there was already a serious morale issue on the Bills -- and Peterman's latest performance may have been the nail in the coffin. 

 

I can't understand how a coach who values players w good character and a love for the game can oversee a team who are so careless with penalties.  The pre-snap stuff is beyond frustrating. 

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