MAJBobby Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 13 hours ago, RyanTalbotBills said: A lot of people expect the Bills to be sellers at the trade deadline. That may be the case, but the Bills should also have an open mind about adding talent at the deadline. I listed seven potential targets in my article and gave reasons why the players may be available. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the seven players listed, as well as any players you'd like to see the team add. https://www.newyorkupstate.com/expo/sports/erry-2018/10/bdc68833327434/nfl-trade-rumors-7-players-buf.html#incart_most-readsports Dont like ANY of those WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 8 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Do people really not understand that a contending team doesn't trade a key starter to get another starter at a different position? They trade a future asset to get better and win now. It's not that complicated. Happens in all sports. We are contending also, contrary to what people believe about us rebuilding. They reached out to the Bills, not the other way around. They want Shady, then they will have to sacrifice to get him if they really want him so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 8 hours ago, Clyde Smith said: We are contending also, contrary to what people believe about us rebuilding. They reached out to the Bills, not the other way around. They want Shady, then they will have to sacrifice to get him if they really want him so bad. Super Bowl contention? You really think that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Super Bowl contention? You really think that? If Foles could win MVP - Why Can't Nate?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Super Bowl contention? You really think that? C'mon dude, you replied like 12 hrs later to make yourself look good Foh. We had a chance before Allen went down. Yes I still think that until we are officially out of contention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 6:18 PM, Clyde Smith said: C'mon dude, you replied like 12 hrs later to make yourself look good Foh. We had a chance before Allen went down. Yes I still think that until we are officially out of contention. We weren't Super Bowl contenders before or after that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 On 10/13/2018 at 5:54 PM, BADOLBILZ said: Wouldn't surprise me in the least if the Bills spend the next 10 months trying to build the league's most dominant defense with all of their cap and draft capital. They've kinda' !@#$ed themselves royally on offense with dumb decisions since McDermott got hired. And they have shown zero ability to unearth any talent on that side of the ball. But like the droughty Bills under defensive watch of Wade and Greggo and LeBeau and Pettine and Schwartz they've seemingly succeeded to some extent in picking that low hanging defensive fruit and might have to live off of that and use Allen as a battering ram for a couple more seasons than planned. McDermott is to offense as Coach Gailey is to defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: McDermott is to offense as Coach Gailey is to defense. Exactly. But McD is very Jauron-ian and that's why Gailey was hired. Pegula's next hire will definitely be a reaction to what McD didn't do. That part is normal........it's what teams do.........but the difference between the Bills and other teams is that the Bills consistently hire guys who aren't capable enough to understand how to build both sides of the ball. The Bills are like a head coaching fantasy camp for career coordinators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 46 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: We weren't Super Bowl contenders before or after that game. Ok Nostradamus. Please don't reply to me no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 On 10/13/2018 at 7:21 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: The next three games hold the key obviously. If they are 4-4 no worse than after MNF, they should buy instead of selling IMO. No way will Beane trade off any of the '19 or '20 draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 A couple of those would be good pick ups but i don't see it happening !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Sell! Sell! Sell! Cya KB and Shady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/13/2018 at 7:37 PM, NewDayBills said: I'd easily give up a 2nd for Amari Cooper, I don't think a 3rd would get it done. Sign him right away. There are open questions about Cooper's desire to play football. A 2nd for him is utterly ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/13/2018 at 8:52 PM, purple haze said: Chuckie has no rhyme or reason. Thank you. Agree 100%. Strikes me as another 10 year old buying wax packs at the corner store, trading them in a week when the next batch comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/13/2018 at 9:21 PM, BADOLBILZ said: It's already been two full offseasons. Part of the sales pitch with McD was that he was a personnel expert.........and he basically discounted the scouting of the staff he inherited and made his moves based on his own eyes and those of a few questionably qualified people that he hired. (Phil McGeoghan in particular) This is HIS team........Beane gets blamed for the Watkins/Darby/Benjamin/Dareus lopsided trades but he was just doing the bidding of McD...........those kinda' moves were not something McD had time to cultivate. He also did not want Mahomes and then made Doug Whaley........who DID want Mahomes.........work out the trade details with Dorsey.? I like a lot of things McD brings to the table.........discipline and defense.......... but he took over a team that had just had it's best offensive production in TWENTY FIVE YEARS........since mid-SB era.........and has made one choice after the next to totally destroy both the personnel and the scheme with his bad decisions on that side of the ball. This is my issue as well. Not only this but they allowed him a nepotism hire in Beane which means he will remain unchecked in personnel. 48 minutes ago, Pete said: Sell! Sell! Sell! Cya KB and Shady What if you're offered a first for Hughes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, CuddyDark said: This is my issue as well. Not only this but they allowed him a nepotism hire in Beane which means he will remain unchecked in personnel. The nepotism hire to hate on is Teflon Juan Castillo. Our OL hasn't been the same since... Who hires an OL coach before the OC? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: The nepotism hire to hate on is Teflon Juan Castillo. Our OL hasn't been the same since... Who hires an OL coach before the OC? At least Castillo has been a career OL coach. Beane knows nothing about personnel. He's never picked players. He's never been in charge or had final say. Everything Beane does is on the job training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: At least Castillo has been a career OL coach. Beane knows nothing about personnel. He's never picked players. He's never been in charge or had final say. Everything Beane does is on the job training. He did in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Aren't there rumors that Chuckie doesn't like Carr and is willing to offload him? I'm not a fan of Carr but why not trade for him if he can be at least an average QB in our lineup. Peterman and a 3rd for Carr :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 33 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: He did in 2012. He didn't make any decisions. That was the year they skipped over Beane and hired Gettleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, CuddyDark said: He didn't make any decisions. That was the year they skipped over Beane and hired Gettleman. Except for signing Mario Addison off of another team's PS and signing Graham Gano, who is still their Kicker. Why do you feel the need to use absolutes when they invalidate your statements? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Except for signing Mario Addison off of another team's PS and signing Graham Gano, who is still their Kicker. Why do you feel the need to use absolutes when they invalidate your statements? LMAO. He drafted players? He put together an offseason? A draft Board? He was GM for 3 months. The team skipped over him and hired Gettleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: LMAO. He drafted players? He put together an offseason? A draft Board? He was GM for 3 months. The team skipped over him and hired Gettleman. Not what you said. First you said 52 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: He's never been in charge or had final say. except he did, in 2012. Then you said 11 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: He didn't make any decisions. Except he did. He signed 2 players that are still Panthers to this day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Not what you said. First you said except he did, in 2012. Then you said Except he did. He signed 2 players that are still Panthers to this day. Right, but you are minimizing my context to make a side argument that he was Interim GM for 3 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, CuddyDark said: Right, but you are minimizing my context to make a side argument that he was Interim GM for 3 months. I'm not minimizing anything. It just tends to help if you are accurate with statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuddyDark Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: I'm not minimizing anything. It just tends to help if you are accurate with statements. I'm accurate. Beane's first draft and offseason as GM was with the Bills. He is a nepotism hire doing on the job training as GM. The Panthers skipped over him twice and hired other GMs. Only reason he's here is because McDermott wants him here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, prissythecat said: Aren't there rumors that Chuckie doesn't like Carr and is willing to offload him? I'm not a fan of Carr but why not trade for him if he can be at least an average QB in our lineup. Peterman and a 3rd for Carr ? I don't want Carr with his bloated contact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, CuddyDark said: This is my issue as well. Not only this but they allowed him a nepotism hire in Beane which means he will remain unchecked in personnel. What if you're offered a first for Hughes? tough one. Jerry is a beast. But I would have to say yes. More high picks, more cap space, and younger. Sell Sell! White, Milano, Hyde, Poyer, Harrison, Edmunds, Taron and Dawkins are my core. Make an offer on everyone else- stockpile picks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFC24 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/13/2018 at 8:39 PM, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: Sorry to rain on the parade, but I don't see Beane giving up any draft picks at all unless he finds someone he and McD want to keep around next 3-5 years. like Kelvin Benjamin, EJ Gaines, and Jordan Mathews??? lmao why can't fans admit Beane is terrible at trades and has no idea what he is looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Thomas, Conley, Reddick- don't overpay, but any or all 3 if price is right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 hours ago, CuddyDark said: I'm accurate. Beane's first draft and offseason as GM was with the Bills. He is a nepotism hire doing on the job training as GM. The Panthers skipped over him twice and hired other GMs. Only reason he's here is because McDermott wants him here. You keep throwing around the word "nepotism" when the NFL is a gigantic revolving door of the same coaches and executives that bounce all over the league because of who they know. New coaches/GMs are going to hire guys they're familiar with or have worked with before. How well did it work out for Whaley and Marrone or Whaley and Ryan? Whaley had zero prior history with either coach and there was friction from the start. I'd rather hire guys I'm familiar with too so we can all hit the ground running. And everyone saying the Bills should still be selling must have missed the news that leaked out last week which said the organization is done trimming the roster. They are now looking to add players. Of course that doesn't mean they're going to hang onto guys who aren't performing up to par (KB) but the idea of trading Shady, Hughes, etc. Unless they were to get some insane offer, both those dudes are firmly in their plans going into the future. Hughes is an impact player on defense, coaches love the way he practices and McDermott wants Hughes around so younger players can see and study his work habits. Same goes for McCoy. His teammates gave him the C this year, what kind of jacked up message do you think it'd send if they trade a captain in the middle of the season for a couple of picks? It would have that locker room losing trust in their coaches and the process pretty quick to see a team leader and a well-respected teammate and captain shipped off in the middle of the season. A move like that goes against the core values they're trying to instill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 That Hassan played pretty well last night and he fits McD's defense perfectly. You get him this year....you dont have to worry about pass rusher in the draft next year and can concentrate of offense, offense, offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Chuckie is Rex Ryan. Running outdated system and not bothering to update it while milking an owner for stupidly large sums of money (large to the casual fan at least). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/13/2018 at 8:39 PM, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: Sorry to rain on the parade, but I don't see Beane giving up any draft picks at all unless he finds someone he and McD want to keep around next 3-5 years. Absolutely give up a 2 for Amari Cooper- super productive and going into his prime. Amari, Zay, and draft a WR doesnt seem to bad to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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