Democratic 2020 Presidential Primary Thread

[snafu]

Is it too early to start a thread on the 2020 Democrat Presidential Primary? 

Corey Booker was in Iowa earlier this week.  There are reports that Mike Bloomberg is changing his party affiliation from R to D so he can throw his hat in. Biden is probably going to announce in January. Haven't heard much from Sanders or Warren, but they will likely be in the mix. Harris is a likelihood.  The Dem primaries are going to make the 2016 Republican filed look like a garden party. Pure entertainment is on the near horizon. 

[Rob's House]

I'm pulling for Corey Booker. Dude's such a joke I can't take him seriously. It tickles me when lefties get tingly over him. They think he's the next Obama.

 

He may be a clean, articulate, half-black guy, but he's no Obama. For all his shortcomings, Obama could read a hell of a speech. Booker can't speak for ****. He looks like a guy playing a politician in a Lifetime movie.

[LSHMEAB]

I think it's gonna end up being Pocahontas. That's a hell of a nickname to shake, but she's authentically far left and unapologetic about it. If there's one lesson we've learned from the past 3 elections, it's that nominating a moderate, "electable" candidate is a recipe for disaster.

 

Don't love the optics, but the field is not particularly strong. 

 

I've been really disappointed in Corey Booker since he joined the Senate and had his Spartacus embarrassment. I don't know he lives that down.

[reddogblitz]

I've been predicting Gov. Jay Inside will run for Prez someday for years and years. He's been to Iowa a few times already.  I think this is the year.

 

Cory Booker is even more sanctimonious than Rick Sanctimonious.

[Prickly Pete]

I think Booker looks just like rapist and all-around douchebag, "K2" Kellen Winslow Jr. In fact, if I wanted to run some psy-op's, I would make memes with their photos swapped.

 

 

Edited October 11, 2018 by OJ Tom

[Doc Brown]

Sadly, I think Bernie Sanders wins it fairly easily if he runs despite his age.  Especially if their is a recession.  The populist movement is not over as people continue to lose faith in the federal government. Like Trump, the more the other side and some in his own party try to smear him the stronger he becomes.

[Wacka]

Booker looks just like Keegan Micheal Key ands he will take the democratic party to a whole 'nother level.

[snafu]

The midterms are going to guide the direction a lot.  I don't see a change in the Senate, but if the house flips, then you might see a growing faction of Democrat Congressmen seeking a change in leadership.  If that happens, then you might then see some lesser known name be propped up by that group.

[Gavin in Va Beach]

Some Dems are starting to hype up our former governor and Clinton pal Terry McCauliffe as a 2020 contender. He's got quite a few scandals surrounding him, going back to Global Crossing, but like the Clinton's always seems to come away without anyone challenging him on anything. He's always struck me as an amiable dunce who keeps lucking into one situation after another then escaping it before it starts to stink. If the media gets behind him who knows.

[boyst]

40 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Sadly, I think Bernie Sanders wins it fairly easily if he runs despite his age.  Especially if their is a recession.  The populist movement is not over as people continue to lose faith in the federal government. Like Trump, the more the other side and some in his own party try to smear him the stronger he becomes.

Gee imagine if the states had rice. Imagine if bee man and everybody else is wet dream came true that the 17th was revoked. 

 

The populist movement would be much better. Much more capable

[Tiberius]

 

 

 

 

 

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[Magox]

57 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Sadly, I think Bernie Sanders wins it fairly easily if he runs despite his age.  Especially if their is a recession.  The populist movement is not over as people continue to lose faith in the federal government. Like Trump, the more the other side and some in his own party try to smear him the stronger he becomes.

If Bernie were to win it he'd probably choose Kamala Harris to be his running mate.  Or Eric Holder.  He would need African American turnout to be pretty high and crazy uncle Bernie doesnt jazz up that part of the electorate.

[boyst]

3 minutes ago, Magox said:

If Bernie were to win it he'd probably choose Kamala Harris to be his running mate.  Or Eric Holder.  He would need African American turnout to be pretty high and crazy uncle Bernie doesnt jazz up that part of the electorate.

Neither would align themselves to Sanders.  They would want their own identity and wait until 2024 when there is a clear field.  There is almost no way Trump doesn't win 2020.  A year ago I'd be displeased and almost scared by that fact. Now, it's abundantly clear that not only have the Democrats lost their way but Trump is doing fairly well and at this point has earned reelection. Can't wait until Trump conspired with Eritrea allegations begin 

[RochesterRob]

  None of those other names matter as the constant noise from Hillary Clinton tells me that once again the cards are stacked in her favor.  Yes, she said she was done right after the 2016 election but I don't believe her for one second.  She just wanted to drop out of the news cycle to regroup was all it was.  I don't think she has run out of dirty tricks nor has pitched out all the dirt she has found on others in her own party.  I'd love to be able to eavesdrop in on the highest level DNC meetings to know just how threatened they feel by her and what gambits they are willing to try to be rid of her.

[keepthefaith]

Is Hillary's ego big enough to cause her to run again?

[Buffalo_Gal]

Whoever it ends up being, they are a sacrificial lamb ala Bob Dole. I do not think this is a Bill Clinton case (where Bush's popularity collapsed after being a record high, and a semi-reasonable third-party candidate showed up to split the vote).

 

[RochesterRob]

3 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:

Is Hillary's ego big enough to cause her to run again?

  Seriously?  All she does as of late is snipe to the media about what is going on with Trump.  In her mind she should have been President back in 1992 with the 25th Amendment overturned along with the FBI hijacked to be her own personal hatchet squad.  Any other former candidate just drops out of politics by and large after a failed attempt.

5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Whoever it ends up being, they are a sacrificial lamb ala Bob Dole. I do not think this is a Bill Clinton case (where Bush's popularity collapsed after being a record high, and a semi-reasonable third-party candidate showed up to split the vote).

 

  Not going to be a sacrificial lamb this time as Hillary knows this may be the last window for her.  I am surprised she has not announced at this point but must be getting antsy at this point.  She will probably wait until the midterms are over so she knows what approach she wants to use.

[IDBillzFan]

I would never pretend that I was wise enough to take a stab at this with confidence, but I do think it would be a good idea not to rule out Michelle Obama.

[RochesterRob]

4 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

I would never pretend that I was wise enough to take a stab at this with confidence, but I do think it would be a good idea not to rule out Michelle Obama.

  Despite her claims I could see her running.  One problem is she has less experience than most potential candidate in that she never has been in Congress or the Senate nor been a governor of a state.  Hillary would consider Obama useful as Michelle would fill a field of straw men candidates for Clinton to slice through.  I doubt Michelle would readily push up to the bar to do that on the other hand.

[Nanker]

Great topic. What I recommend they do is be forthright and honest and have their primary between an ass, a skunk, a worm, a snake, and a badger. 

[IDBillzFan]

29 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

One problem is she has less experience than most potential candidate in that she never has been in Congress or the Senate nor been a governor of a state.

 

The only difference between Michelle and her husband is her husband spent time in elected office voting 'present' all the time.

 

She's probably more intelligent that Barry,  is equally adept at public speaking, and is more genuine that her husband because she doesn't wear her ego on her sleeve. Barry absolutely out-kicked his coverage when he married her, and I have no doubt she would give anyone in the DNC primary field fits.

 

She would also give the DNC the black woman candidate they would exploit for using racism and misogyny as foils. Kamala Harris peaked when everyone caught her promoting an edited video of Kavanaugh. That was a rookie mistake that shows her for the unintelligent opportunist that she is.

[keepthefaith]

3 hours ago, Tiberius said:

 

 

 

 

 

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Sure because a life spent mostly in the bubble academia and in coastal liberal Massachusetts makes you qualified.  If Dems choose her it will be proof that the party learned nothing from recent elections.

[RochesterRob]

2 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

The only difference between Michelle and her husband is her husband spent time in elected office voting 'present' all the time.

 

She's probably more intelligent that Barry,  is equally adept at public speaking, and is more genuine that her husband because she doesn't wear her ego on her sleeve. Barry absolutely out-kicked his coverage when he married her, and I have no doubt she would give anyone in the DNC primary field fits.

 

She would also give the DNC the black woman candidate they would exploit for using racism and misogyny as foils. Kamala Harris peaked when everyone caught her promoting an edited video of Kavanaugh. That was a rookie mistake that shows her for the unintelligent opportunist that she is.

  If Hillary runs that will tell me that the deck of cards is as stacked as it was in 2016.  

1 minute ago, keepthefaith said:

 

Sure because a life spent mostly in the bubble academia and in coastal liberal Massachusetts makes you qualified.  If Dems choose her it will be proof that the party learned nothing from recent elections.

  Probably hoping now that Sears is slipping under the water that will provide the additional voter base for victory.

[IDBillzFan]

Just now, RochesterRob said:

  If Hillary runs that will tell me that the deck of cards is as stacked as it was in 2016.  

 

There is no question about this. It would absolutely stun me if she tried to run again. She literally is unable at times to navigate a flight of stairs, or even a curb, and you can almost hear her body armor bubble-wrap popping and crunching with every step she takes in her Lady Maopants outfits.

 

I would LOVE for her run, but I just don't see it happening.

 

[Rob's House]

[LSHMEAB]

11 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

I've been predicting Gov. Jay Inside will run for Prez someday for years and years. He's been to Iowa a few times already.  I think this is the year.

 

Cory Booker is even more sanctimonious than Rick Sanctimonious.

I like Inslee quite a bit but that lisp is going to hurt his chances.

 

It's unfortunate, but those things matter.

 

What I want to see is an unabashed liberal. Hillary lost because she didn't stand for anything. I still have no idea what she was campaigning for and I followed it closely. Her campaign was essentially, "Donald Trump is a bad person, so vote for me." Ideas like $15 minimum wage and universal health care are overwhelmingly popular, yet the left has failed to embrace them out of fear of the S word. Trump proved that the direct approach is the correct approach.

 

 

[RochesterRob]

1 minute ago, LABillzFan said:

 

There is no question about this. It would absolutely stun me if she tried to run again. She literally is unable at times to navigate a flight of stairs, or even a curb, and you can almost hear her body armor bubble-wrap popping and crunching with every step she takes in her Lady Maopants outfits.

 

I would LOVE for her run, but I just don't see it happening.

 

  I think that everything that Hillary has done that last year and change was with 2020 in mind.  The media will accommodate her by letting her sit in a chair and her public appearances will mirror the precaution and security methods used by tyrants such as Hitler and Stalin.  If Hillary gets elected the media will provide a physical shield between her and the public.  No Youtube of her going limp this time less the provider of such footage wants to incur some serious wrath

10 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

There is no question about this. It would absolutely stun me if she tried to run again. She literally is unable at times to navigate a flight of stairs, or even a curb, and you can almost hear her body armor bubble-wrap popping and crunching with every step she takes in her Lady Maopants outfits.

 

I would LOVE for her run, but I just don't see it happening.

 

  If she runs again be scared.  It will mean that all the bugs have been worked out of her campaign operations.  She's not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I think she learns from mistakes when she has motivation to do so.

[Tiberius]

15 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:

 

Sure because a life spent mostly in the bubble academia and in coastal liberal Massachusetts makes you qualified.  If Dems choose her it will be proof that the party learned nothing from recent elections.

Why not? She is still better than Trump, who just spent his daddies money, tried fixing his daddies will to get it all and then turned to daddy Putin for cash. Trump was a failure in business, corrupt in practice and totally incompetent in running our government. 

 

She will easily be a massive improvement over Trump 

[RochesterRob]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Why not? She is still better than Trump, who just spent his daddies money, tried fixing his daddies will to get it all and then turned to daddy Putin for cash. Trump was a failure in business, corrupt in practice and totally incompetent in running our government. 

 

She will easily be a massive improvement over Trump 

  Lead paint and lead pipes in your house growing up?

[outsidethebox]

4 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Lead paint and lead pipes in your house growing up?

He gets paid to post this sh ite. He doesn't believe the crap he posts. He's Soros bot.  No free will of his own. He has to be told what to say.

[Deranged Rhino]

It'll be a big field: 

 

Definitely Running

Clinton (will run again if not otherwise occupied)

Sanders (will run again - can't win)

Harris (leader out the gate - likely to get the nom or be the VP of an outsider)

Booker (won't win, will be laughed out of the race)

Warren (won't win, earlier than most expect exit)

Avanatti (won't win, early exit)

Cuomo (won't win)

Bloomberg (won't win)

Chris Murphy (won't win, early exit)

Holder (won't win, might be otherwise occupied)

Gillibrand (won't win, early exit)

Biden (won't win, might be otherwise occupied)

Patrick from Mass (won't win, early exit)

Landrieu (won't win, early exit)

 

Outside shot:

Iger (can't win national, might win nom)

[RochesterRob]

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

It'll be a big field: 

 

Definitely Running

Clinton (will run again if not otherwise occupied)

Sanders (will run again - can't win)

Harris (leader out the gate - likely to get the nom or be the VP of an outsider)

Booker (won't win, will be laughed out of the race)

Warren (won't win, earlier than most expect exit)

Avanatti (won't win, early exit)

Cuomo (won't win)

Bloomberg (won't win)

Chris Murphy (won't win, early exit)

Holder (won't win, might be otherwise occupied)

Gillibrand (won't win, early exit)

Biden (won't win, might be otherwise occupied)

Patrick from Mass (won't win, early exit)

Landrieu (won't win, early exit)

 

Outside shot:

Iger (can't win national, might win nom)

  Interesting and probable scenario.  Been a lot of whack job noise about working Chelsea Clinton in somehow but I don't think that the Democrats would swallow that when it comes to the primaries and caucuses.

[Deranged Rhino]

5 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Interesting and probable scenario.  Been a lot of whack job noise about working Chelsea Clinton in somehow but I don't think that the Democrats would swallow that when it comes to the primaries and caucuses.

 

I think they have 2024 penciled in for Chelsea's first run... maybe 2028 after a term in the Senate (watch her primary Gillibrand as payback for G slamming Bill's sexual crimes earlier this year - after taking millions from the Clintons for years). 

[RochesterRob]

5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I think they have 2024 penciled in for Chelsea's first run... maybe 2028 after a term in the Senate (watch her primary Gillibrand as payback for G slamming Bill's sexual crimes earlier this year - after taking millions from the Clintons for years). 

  A high profile office is necessary in my mind for Chelsea to be taken seriously by most Dems as a POTUS nominee.  The problem is her reputation is that she is dumb as a box of rocks and lacks the Clinton cunning so I have issues that she could beat a somewhat proficient opponent.

[Tiberius]

23 minutes ago, westside said:

He gets paid to post this sh ite. He doesn't believe the crap he posts. He's Soros bot.  No free will of his own. He has to be told what to say.

That makes no sense. None of you would ever vote for a Democrat, so why would I be paid to post? 

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, RochesterRob said:

  A high profile office is necessary in my mind for Chelsea to be taken seriously by most Dems as a POTUS nominee.  The problem is her reputation is that she is dumb as a box of rocks and lacks the Clinton cunning so I have issues that she could beat a somewhat proficient opponent.

 

She definitely needs a high profile win/election before she can run for POTUS. As for the bolded, the Clinton political machine has ways to get around proficient opponents: 

[RochesterRob]

3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

She definitely needs a high profile win/election before she can run for POTUS. As for the bolded, the Clinton political machine has ways to get around proficient opponents: 

  I was waiting for a congressional seat down state to have Clinton rumored to be interested in running for until we got past the primaries this year.

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, RochesterRob said:

  I was waiting for a congressional seat down state to have Clinton rumored to be interested in running for until we got past the primaries this year.

 

 I was watching that as well. But I'm telling you, don't under estimate the Clinton's pettiness and need for revenge. Gillibrand bit the hand that fed her for YEARS. Chelsea is coming for her seat - might even go as far as Arkancide if KG doesn't back away like the good puppet she is.

[RochesterRob]

3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 I was watching that as well. But I'm telling you, don't under estimate the Clinton's pettiness and need for revenge. Gillibrand bit the hand that fed her for YEARS. Chelsea is coming for her seat - might even go as far as Arkancide if KG doesn't back away like the good puppet she is.

  Rumor is that Gillibrand is depressed and feels she has lost any purpose in life...........................................................................................

[Nanker]

Yep. She should be put on double tap suicide watch for her own good. 

1 hour ago, RochesterRob said:

  Rumor is that Gillibrand is depressed and feels she has lost any purpose in life...........................................................................................